Ex-city MP calls waiters 'servants' (From Daily Echo)

I can't see anything wrong with calling some one who serves a servant. What word are we supposed to use now?

That make's him and the like's of him servants,afterall they are there to "serve" us as rumour has it !!!

cliffwalker, how about waiter, or a domestic?
Servant (rightly or wrongly) has connotations with pre-modernity when people were servile to their oppressors, the Monarchs, dukes, Lords etc.
What amazes me most with the modern Tory is that they seem to think if they just pretend that it is still that way it may come true....

"And Matthew Sinclair from the Taxpayers' Alliance said: “Talk of higher food prices and servants waiting at tables suggests some of our politicians really have lost touch with reality.”

They been out of touch for the last 30 years

Chope was always an example of the toffee nosed Tory boy ridiculed by Harry Enfield. His disrepectful language is as outdated as other terms that may have been used in the past but are now not acceptable. He owes them an apology and needs to come out of the dark ages.

Don't Vote Chope

The Police,MP's,Councill
ors & any one who works for the people are servants of the people aren't they?
MP's serve the electorate right?
Councillors serve the local electorate or they're suppose to right?
In the old days it was thought of being a good career move being a servant in a big house & weren't they serving meals to the people who were paying their wages?
In this world we have gone so PC it's a joke remember the so called Pleb accusation?
A guy loses his post due to a fabricated lie by who? A copper a so cal;led servant of the law.
why try to make a mountain out of a mole hill maybe Labour Supporters & MP's should be asking why is our leader so pro EU when most of our voters are totally against the EU did we indeed listen to the electorate or shall we cloud the issue with a subject like this?

heres some thing for the readers of the world, its more or less the same as the book says how it happened.
And yes i know its a bit of the track.

http://www.collectiv
e-evolution.com/2013
/01/11/why-did-media
-keep-the-recent-pea
ceful-icelandic-revo
lution-quiet/

Irrelevant, outdated Tory c**t.

loosehead wrote:
The Police,MP's,Councill

ors & any one who works for the people are servants of the people aren't they?
MP's serve the electorate right?
Councillors serve the local electorate or they're suppose to right?
In the old days it was thought of being a good career move being a servant in a big house & weren't they serving meals to the people who were paying their wages?
In this world we have gone so PC it's a joke remember the so called Pleb accusation?
A guy loses his post due to a fabricated lie by who? A copper a so cal;led servant of the law.
why try to make a mountain out of a mole hill maybe Labour Supporters & MP's should be asking why is our leader so pro EU when most of our voters are totally against the EU did we indeed listen to the electorate or shall we cloud the issue with a subject like this?

Are most voters against membership of the EU, or is this just what the Sun/Daily Express/Daily Mail tells you?

Chris Chope making plea for prices to be reduced in exclusive restaurants to be lowered for politicians!!!!!!!!!
!!!!! We the ordinary members have to pay full whack for our meals in restaurants why shouldnt politicians

Members of PC Brigade of NuLabour appear to be making fuss about basically nothing. Could it be because they themselves have become so arrogant that their Councillors and MPs do not believe in serving the public anymore so have started to suffer from snobbery?

People like one of the greatest of last century Mahatma Gandhi used to take a great pride in calling themselves servants of the people. He in fact even cleaned the toilets in one of his ‘Ashrams’.

Even Chief Constables used to sign off their letters and annual reports with words your servant.

While making hollow noises on PC lines NuLabourites are not addressing the real issue of hypocrisy of our members of parliament, because it also includes them or their friends.

They are all well paid but still not willing to pay the prices for food in House of Commons low prices for food and booze, when compared with prices in restaurants and bars which us the ordinary people have to pay.

Only few days ago it came to light that most of MPs want massive rise in their own wages, while virtually all of them are forcing so called austerity measures upon us the ordinary people.

Although I used to support and even canvass for John Denham against Chris Chope, when he was MP for Itchen. On many issues I had to deal with Chris and did not find him or his wife (who was his secretary those days) to be snobs. In fact away from politics both were exceptionally friendly people. So I can’t understand why people should think him to be a toff. Tory? Yes. Toff? No.

sparkster wrote:
Chris Chope making plea for prices to be reduced in exclusive restaurants to be lowered for politicians!!!!!!!!!

!!!!! We the ordinary members have to pay full whack for our meals in restaurants why shouldnt politicians

Because we're only "plebs." The greedy, self serving politicians don't see why we should stop them from fleecing us in order to feather their own nests.

What a horrid man chope is.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Members of PC Brigade of NuLabour appear to be making fuss about basically nothing. Could it be because they themselves have become so arrogant that their Councillors and MPs do not believe in serving the public anymore so have started to suffer from snobbery?

People like one of the greatest of last century Mahatma Gandhi used to take a great pride in calling themselves servants of the people. He in fact even cleaned the toilets in one of his ‘Ashrams’.

Even Chief Constables used to sign off their letters and annual reports with words your servant.

While making hollow noises on PC lines NuLabourites are not addressing the real issue of hypocrisy of our members of parliament, because it also includes them or their friends.

They are all well paid but still not willing to pay the prices for food in House of Commons low prices for food and booze, when compared with prices in restaurants and bars which us the ordinary people have to pay.

Only few days ago it came to light that most of MPs want massive rise in their own wages, while virtually all of them are forcing so called austerity measures upon us the ordinary people.

Although I used to support and even canvass for John Denham against Chris Chope, when he was MP for Itchen. On many issues I had to deal with Chris and did not find him or his wife (who was his secretary those days) to be snobs. In fact away from politics both were exceptionally friendly people. So I can’t understand why people should think him to be a toff. Tory? Yes. Toff? No.

Should call youself Duracell............
.......goes on & on & on

I have known Mr Chope and his family for nearly 25 years and I can assure these patchetic little mischief makers that he is one of the few politicians from any party that I would genuinely call "Honest". Ask Mr Chope what he does and he will tell you he is a "Public Servant" not a derogatory term but a position of trust and priviledge. I suggest these mental midgets follow the Lib Dem example and go and haunt members of their own party by photographing tax discs or something as they do in Eastleigh, but leave Chris Chope and his family alone. He is too much of a gentleman for the likes of you.

I have known Mr Chope and his family for nearly 25 years and I can assure these patchetic little mischief makers that he is one of the few politicians from any party that I would genuinely call "Honest". Ask Mr Chope what he does and he will tell you he is a "Public Servant" not a derogatory term but a position of trust and priviledge. I suggest these mental midgets follow the Lib Dem example and go and haunt members of their own party by photographing tax discs or something as they do in Eastleigh, but leave Chris Chope and his family alone. He is too much of a gentleman for the likes of you.

Ive nothing against Chris Chope personally my point is that members of the ordinary public have to pay full price when we go to reataurants aand i see no reason why politicians should be any different, you can refer to me as a mental midget if you like i couldnt care less, the whole idea of this forum is to express opinions and we are all entitled to make them, if you dont like them thats up to you

The Cons keep condemning themselves from their own mouths as remaining the "Nasty Party".

AndyAndrews wrote:
The Cons keep condemning themselves from their own mouths as remaining the "Nasty Party".

Have you heard Milliband talking about his back to work policy for those on Social for two years?
many would call him nasty

Let's put this right out there!
How many of you who are jumping to slate Chris Chope also jumped in on the band wagon over the Pleb scandal like jen1 seems to be doing?
I haven't heard one Labour MP or one labour supporter on here say how disgusting it is & how they should all be apologising for Andrew losing his position in Government due to a down right lie?
The Policeman who said he heard this Pleb wasn't there no member of the public were in the vicinity the Police had CCTV of that area they knew the statement was false yet they called for Andrew L's head why?
now we have this absolutely ridiculous witch hunt starting again?
So if I'm out & I say I should be getting cheaper food & these servants should be doing better I'll be in the paper?
but I expect more sheep will bleat on about it

Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

Servant - person who serves. Not a big deal but I would have thought that any person particularly a Tory MP would know that it might cause offence and it makes him look like an arse when he apologises.

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Give Chris Chope some credit.

He did not call them plebs.

He just wants us plebs, who are facing cuts, to subsidise his four-course lunches.

Give the fellah a break!

loosehead wrote:
Let's put this right out there!
How many of you who are jumping to slate Chris Chope also jumped in on the band wagon over the Pleb scandal like jen1 seems to be doing?
I haven't heard one Labour MP or one labour supporter on here say how disgusting it is & how they should all be apologising for Andrew losing his position in Government due to a down right lie?
The Policeman who said he heard this Pleb wasn't there no member of the public were in the vicinity the Police had CCTV of that area they knew the statement was false yet they called for Andrew L's head why?
now we have this absolutely ridiculous witch hunt starting again?
So if I'm out & I say I should be getting cheaper food & these servants should be doing better I'll be in the paper?
but I expect more sheep will bleat on about it

We know that ONE policeman lied, but that does not mean that the policeman on the gate was not called a pleb.

loosehead wrote:
Let's put this right out there!
How many of you who are jumping to slate Chris Chope also jumped in on the band wagon over the Pleb scandal like jen1 seems to be doing?
I haven't heard one Labour MP or one labour supporter on here say how disgusting it is & how they should all be apologising for Andrew losing his position in Government due to a down right lie?
The Policeman who said he heard this Pleb wasn't there no member of the public were in the vicinity the Police had CCTV of that area they knew the statement was false yet they called for Andrew L's head why?
now we have this absolutely ridiculous witch hunt starting again?
So if I'm out & I say I should be getting cheaper food & these servants should be doing better I'll be in the paper?
but I expect more sheep will bleat on about it

We know that ONE policeman lied, but that does not mean that the policeman on the gate was not called a pleb.

southy wrote:
"And Matthew Sinclair from the Taxpayers' Alliance said: “Talk of higher food prices and servants waiting at tables suggests some of our politicians really have lost touch with reality.”

They been out of touch for the last 30 years

As you have stated before and as a representative of the TUSC this must be true. You recommend one man one job. Is it therefore policy to sack the other two??

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

That's right Margaret take your last breath

Anyway this guy really does represent the worst of Tory excesses. Anti-gay, anti-minimum wage (whilst claiming £140K expenses in one year), climate change denier, and he even tried to prop up the the dead horse that was the poll tax. An all-round Thatcherite 2@

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

That's right Margaret take your last breath

you should read posts on here & you'll find Ironlady is/was a floating voter.
from what the lady has seen with unions using their members as pawns in a political strike & then with Williams outright lies along with his cabinet yes she has posted Anti Labour comments.
I for one thought the poll tax was a good idea.
I was chucked out of home I lived in a pokey bedsit I had no chance in hell of getting a council home.
I had one chance & that was to buy my home.
whilst friends were going on holiday I was struggling to keep my head above water only for my Rates to continue to rise.
Poll tax with all paying would/should have meant lower payments with every one contributing to the services the city or area provided.
I have/had no kids no elderly parents yet I was paying for them & others weren't why should that be right?
Poll tax corrected that so we all paid but of course the SWP thought it was wrong to treat all as equals & organised riots well if you & Southy are proud of that it say's it all but before you slate posters on here as you've slated this woman & our city get your facts right !

I thought the original remarks by Christopher Chope, MP were the subject of this article in the Daily Echo. If so, then he must consider that his remarks were in very poor taste. No-one these days is considered a servant, anymore than anyone is considered a subject.

What he has said is a throwback to Victorian England, when such things as servants and subjects actually existed or were thought to be real. Why I am not surprised that this should have emanated from a Tory Member of Parliament. The aim of the Tory Party is to set back this country hundreds of years. The attitude of this particular MP is absolutely reflective of that urge. Congratulations to him for showing what the Tories are really all about.

Donald2000 wrote:
I thought the original remarks by Christopher Chope, MP were the subject of this article in the Daily Echo. If so, then he must consider that his remarks were in very poor taste. No-one these days is considered a servant, anymore than anyone is considered a subject.

What he has said is a throwback to Victorian England, when such things as servants and subjects actually existed or were thought to be real. Why I am not surprised that this should have emanated from a Tory Member of Parliament. The aim of the Tory Party is to set back this country hundreds of years. The attitude of this particular MP is absolutely reflective of that urge. Congratulations to him for showing what the Tories are really all about.

I agree with what you say but, no doubt loosehead will emphatically deny everything that you have written in this post.

So we don't have servants to the court?
So adkins wasn't a good servant to the club?
If we have to be careful with every word we say because some idiots will make mountains out of molehills then socialising will be a thing of the past & we'll have to revert to arranged marriages at birth so we don't go out & say anything that can be twisted against us get real get a life

loosehead wrote:
So we don't have servants to the court?
So adkins wasn't a good servant to the club?
If we have to be careful with every word we say because some idiots will make mountains out of molehills then socialising will be a thing of the past & we'll have to revert to arranged marriages at birth so we don't go out & say anything that can be twisted against us get real get a life

Would you not consider that the context used to describe Adkins as a good servant of the club, is considerably different to that used when Chope was speaking of staff at the House of Commons dining room?

In the case of Adkins, the word is used as a compliment.

I do not think that was what Chope had in mind.

loosehead wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

That's right Margaret take your last breath

you should read posts on here & you'll find Ironlady is/was a floating voter.
from what the lady has seen with unions using their members as pawns in a political strike & then with Williams outright lies along with his cabinet yes she has posted Anti Labour comments.
I for one thought the poll tax was a good idea.
I was chucked out of home I lived in a pokey bedsit I had no chance in hell of getting a council home.
I had one chance & that was to buy my home.
whilst friends were going on holiday I was struggling to keep my head above water only for my Rates to continue to rise.
Poll tax with all paying would/should have meant lower payments with every one contributing to the services the city or area provided.
I have/had no kids no elderly parents yet I was paying for them & others weren't why should that be right?
Poll tax corrected that so we all paid but of course the SWP thought it was wrong to treat all as equals & organised riots well if you & Southy are proud of that it say's it all but before you slate posters on here as you've slated this woman & our city get your facts right !

I hate the SWP as much as I hate Thatcher. But even most Tories knew the Poll Tax was doomed from the start, as it was inherently unfair, and it was what finally finished off old iron-knickers. But not people like Chope, Victorian dinosaurs who expect the little people to know their place, while creaming off hundreds of thousands in taxpayers money.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
So we don't have servants to the court?
So adkins wasn't a good servant to the club?
If we have to be careful with every word we say because some idiots will make mountains out of molehills then socialising will be a thing of the past & we'll have to revert to arranged marriages at birth so we don't go out & say anything that can be twisted against us get real get a life

Would you not consider that the context used to describe Adkins as a good servant of the club, is considerably different to that used when Chope was speaking of staff at the House of Commons dining room?

In the case of Adkins, the word is used as a compliment.

I do not think that was what Chope had in mind.

Old people as you know don't think they're saying anything wrong but in this PC world you might say it innocently but beware so don't you agree with that?

MP's are nothing more than want to be actors. They use and abuse their status' to board the gravy train subsidised by the tax payer. If and when the Government is run like a business with accountability and controls, I might take them more seriously. Until then: they are just leeching scum

kingnotail wrote:

loosehead wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

That's right Margaret take your last breath

you should read posts on here & you'll find Ironlady is/was a floating voter.
from what the lady has seen with unions using their members as pawns in a political strike & then with Williams outright lies along with his cabinet yes she has posted Anti Labour comments.
I for one thought the poll tax was a good idea.
I was chucked out of home I lived in a pokey bedsit I had no chance in hell of getting a council home.
I had one chance & that was to buy my home.
whilst friends were going on holiday I was struggling to keep my head above water only for my Rates to continue to rise.
Poll tax with all paying would/should have meant lower payments with every one contributing to the services the city or area provided.
I have/had no kids no elderly parents yet I was paying for them & others weren't why should that be right?
Poll tax corrected that so we all paid but of course the SWP thought it was wrong to treat all as equals & organised riots well if you & Southy are proud of that it say's it all but before you slate posters on here as you've slated this woman & our city get your facts right !

I hate the SWP as much as I hate Thatcher. But even most Tories knew the Poll Tax was doomed from the start, as it was inherently unfair, and it was what finally finished off old iron-knickers. But not people like Chope, Victorian dinosaurs who expect the little people to know their place, while creaming off hundreds of thousands in taxpayers money.

.. yep, quite agree

The poll tax fell because it was totally unfair system to all observers - left, centre and right.

It was NOT the Trotskyist SWP that brought it down. If it was anyone, it was Heseltine.

Chope – always found him to be the most arrogant bar steward I have ever had the displeasure to come into contact with.

freefinker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

loosehead wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

RadicalEmu wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill.

Are Labour still living in the past?

Waiter, server, servant whatever, nothing offensive about any of those unless Labour folk are trying to bring back the old slave labour times again, which we moved on from many years ago.

That doesn't actually make sense.
.
Especially as the Tories are running workfare.

Look at the username - you can't expect someone called 'IronLady' to be anything other than a Tory a***licker

That's right SIGH

At least my comment makes sense

SIGH

That's right Margaret take your last breath

you should read posts on here & you'll find Ironlady is/was a floating voter.
from what the lady has seen with unions using their members as pawns in a political strike & then with Williams outright lies along with his cabinet yes she has posted Anti Labour comments.
I for one thought the poll tax was a good idea.
I was chucked out of home I lived in a pokey bedsit I had no chance in hell of getting a council home.
I had one chance & that was to buy my home.
whilst friends were going on holiday I was struggling to keep my head above water only for my Rates to continue to rise.
Poll tax with all paying would/should have meant lower payments with every one contributing to the services the city or area provided.
I have/had no kids no elderly parents yet I was paying for them & others weren't why should that be right?
Poll tax corrected that so we all paid but of course the SWP thought it was wrong to treat all as equals & organised riots well if you & Southy are proud of that it say's it all but before you slate posters on here as you've slated this woman & our city get your facts right !

I hate the SWP as much as I hate Thatcher. But even most Tories knew the Poll Tax was doomed from the start, as it was inherently unfair, and it was what finally finished off old iron-knickers. But not people like Chope, Victorian dinosaurs who expect the little people to know their place, while creaming off hundreds of thousands in taxpayers money.

.. yep, quite agree

The poll tax fell because it was totally unfair system to all observers - left, centre and right.

It was NOT the Trotskyist SWP that brought it down. If it was anyone, it was Heseltine.

Chope – always found him to be the most arrogant bar steward I have ever had the displeasure to come into contact with.

People like Chope are to the Tories what Arthur Scargill, militant tendency etc. used to be to the Labour party. But Labour shook off these dinosaurs years ago, and until the Tory party does the same with Chope and his ilk, it will continue to keep its reputation as the nasty party.

All in all, how is it even possible for people defend a politician who continues to be opposed to a national minimum wage?

loosehead wrote:

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
So we don't have servants to the court?
So adkins wasn't a good servant to the club?
If we have to be careful with every word we say because some idiots will make mountains out of molehills then socialising will be a thing of the past & we'll have to revert to arranged marriages at birth so we don't go out & say anything that can be twisted against us get real get a life

Would you not consider that the context used to describe Adkins as a good servant of the club, is considerably different to that used when Chope was speaking of staff at the House of Commons dining room?

In the case of Adkins, the word is used as a compliment.

I do not think that was what Chope had in mind.

Old people as you know don't think they're saying anything wrong but in this PC world you might say it innocently but beware so don't you agree with that?

Someone who believes the minimum wage should be repealed knows EXACTLY what he is saying when he refers to workers as 'servants'.

kingnotail wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
So we don't have servants to the court?
So adkins wasn't a good servant to the club?
If we have to be careful with every word we say because some idiots will make mountains out of molehills then socialising will be a thing of the past & we'll have to revert to arranged marriages at birth so we don't go out & say anything that can be twisted against us get real get a life

Would you not consider that the context used to describe Adkins as a good servant of the club, is considerably different to that used when Chope was speaking of staff at the House of Commons dining room?

In the case of Adkins, the word is used as a compliment.

I do not think that was what Chope had in mind.

Old people as you know don't think they're saying anything wrong but in this PC world you might say it innocently but beware so don't you agree with that?

Someone who believes the minimum wage should be repealed knows EXACTLY what he is saying when he refers to workers as 'servants'.

I didn't know he felt that way but in exactly what context did he say it?
i don't agree with him on that but there are many businesses who say to compete with China or even Eastern europe it should be scrapped but as I've just said I do not agree with that.
I also believe our supermarket chains should pay much more than the minimum wage not just above it

murphatsoton wrote:
I have known Mr Chope and his family for nearly 25 years and I can assure these patchetic little mischief makers that he is one of the few politicians from any party that I would genuinely call "Honest". Ask Mr Chope what he does and he will tell you he is a "Public Servant" not a derogatory term but a position of trust and priviledge. I suggest these mental midgets follow the Lib Dem example and go and haunt members of their own party by photographing tax discs or something as they do in Eastleigh, but leave Chris Chope and his family alone. He is too much of a gentleman for the likes of you.

Honest maybe, but after reading comments that he has said comes across as incredibly selfish and doesn’t show much sympathy for us lower paid mortals. I am glad he isn’t our M.P anymore, John Denham I think you did us a favour

southy wrote:
heres some thing for the readers of the world, its more or less the same as the book says how it happened.
And yes i know its a bit of the track.

http://www.collectiv

e-evolution.com/2013

/01/11/why-did-media

-keep-the-recent-pea

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for pity's sake Southy you are the one who claimed the internet is only 10% accurate then you post a link to a complete fruitcake site here are some of their top stories!!!
24 Hard Facts About 9/11 That Cannot Be Debunked.
6 Baffling Discoveries That Science Can’t Explain.
Free Energy: Searl Effect Generator.
Macrophagic Myofasciitis (MMF): Another Disease Caused By Vaccines
The Illuminati Doesn’t Exist? Here’s Evidence They do.
Electromagnetic Fields And How They Affect Our Health.

Southy if this is your prime source of information and you take it as fact, it is not surprising that you keep posting twaddle!