Las Vegas style casino a step closer (From Daily Echo)

This is all about money rather than what is good for the city. The same reason the city builds more and more apartments, shops etc. It's funny how the Ski Slope and Ice Rink plans were shelved and then a Super Casino offering a £1m a year to the council suddenly finds itself close to agreement.

There is already 2 casinos in the city so what is really needed? Will this really attract many to the city or is it intended to keep the Cruise shippers pre-occupied before boarding??

There is a danger that those who are opposed to this casino idea because of their fears and dislike of gambling may be missing the target.

A large casino in Southampton is likely to be popular with certain sections of the population who already like to gamble and would enjoy such a setting. The allure of online gambling and lottery scratch cards from the local convenience store, however, present far more of a social problem.

I rarely bet on the horses but I do love a day out once in a while at the races. I don't play poker or roulette but I wouldn't mind an occasional night out at a 'Las Vegas' style entertainment venue.

A large casino in Southampton could prove to be attractive to tourists and other visitors to the city and the economic benefits of this should outweigh the potential risks to society.

I hope that the City Council is able to ensure that the rules governing the competition for the casino maximise the benefits for Southampton's citizens in terms of jobs, money and the general profile of the City

How many of these Supercasino projects have been mooted in the past? And how many have come to fruition? None.

So, poor gambling addicts who are trying to win the money they've lost over the years will have somewhere new to lose all of their money? Great one, then the council will put up posters about getting help for something they could have prevented.

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
There is a danger that those who are opposed to this casino idea because of their fears and dislike of gambling may be missing the target.

A large casino in Southampton is likely to be popular with certain sections of the population who already like to gamble and would enjoy such a setting. The allure of online gambling and lottery scratch cards from the local convenience store, however, present far more of a social problem.

I rarely bet on the horses but I do love a day out once in a while at the races. I don't play poker or roulette but I wouldn't mind an occasional night out at a 'Las Vegas' style entertainment venue.

A large casino in Southampton could prove to be attractive to tourists and other visitors to the city and the economic benefits of this should outweigh the potential risks to society.

I hope that the City Council is able to ensure that the rules governing the competition for the casino maximise the benefits for Southampton's citizens in terms of jobs, money and the general profile of the City

Shouldn't Southampton be putting something on the Royal Pier that is attractive for all and not just those who like to gamble? I much prefer the idea of an O2 style concert venue. If this was designed in an iconic building with a restaurant at the top with a viewing gallery it could have been something to better the Spinnaker Tower and be a focal point for all the Cruise Ships that come into the city and firework displays etc.

I like a gamble myself but I don't go into the 2 casinos already in the city that often. Will I be anymore likely to go to a Supercasino? No!

allsaintsnocurves wrote:

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
There is a danger that those who are opposed to this casino idea because of their fears and dislike of gambling may be missing the target.

A large casino in Southampton is likely to be popular with certain sections of the population who already like to gamble and would enjoy such a setting. The allure of online gambling and lottery scratch cards from the local convenience store, however, present far more of a social problem.

I rarely bet on the horses but I do love a day out once in a while at the races. I don't play poker or roulette but I wouldn't mind an occasional night out at a 'Las Vegas' style entertainment venue.

A large casino in Southampton could prove to be attractive to tourists and other visitors to the city and the economic benefits of this should outweigh the potential risks to society.

I hope that the City Council is able to ensure that the rules governing the competition for the casino maximise the benefits for Southampton's citizens in terms of jobs, money and the general profile of the City

Shouldn't Southampton be putting something on the Royal Pier that is attractive for all and not just those who like to gamble? I much prefer the idea of an O2 style concert venue. If this was designed in an iconic building with a restaurant at the top with a viewing gallery it could have been something to better the Spinnaker Tower and be a focal point for all the Cruise Ships that come into the city and firework displays etc.

I like a gamble myself but I don't go into the 2 casinos already in the city that often. Will I be anymore likely to go to a Supercasino? No!

Exactly. A casino on its own is pointless, much better a casino that is part of a large entertainment complex which also includes a concert venue, bars, restaurants etc.

Potential of £1m per year ........ It will help save Sure Start and other needy causes.
.
At least we wont need to sell the art

Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Mayflower park is little more than a depressing car park anyway. Just get on with developing it.

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Not sure if he reads these posts Southy . .......... So if i was you i would write directly to him

Lone Ranger. wrote:

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Not sure if he reads these posts Southy . .......... So if i was you i would write directly to him

He do Lone

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Mayflower park is little more than a depressing car park anyway. Just get on with developing it.

they can't theres is a law that covers this that stops them from doing so, If the reclaim the moment it touches the tidel ground infront of the park, that land then would become part of the park and would be subject to the same laws and rules as the park as now, so it would have to be left open park land, and no developents allowed on that land.

Slot Machines with 'jackpots of up to £4,000' are hardly 'Las Vegas style'.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
So, poor gambling addicts who are trying to win the money they've lost over the years will have somewhere new to lose all of their money? Great one, then the council will put up posters about getting help for something they could have prevented.

Same as opening off licences or pubs/bars....another place for a pool alcoholic to go and get another beer.

If we all though like u ginger we would get nowhere.

Not everyone has an addiction problem!

Can't wait. It's so annoying having to wait around for hours waiting for a slot machine to become free due to the limit being 20.

southy wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Mayflower park is little more than a depressing car park anyway. Just get on with developing it.

they can't theres is a law that covers this that stops them from doing so, If the reclaim the moment it touches the tidel ground infront of the park, that land then would become part of the park and would be subject to the same laws and rules as the park as now, so it would have to be left open park land, and no developents allowed on that land.

Unreadable

We dont need a super Casino in Southampton, would much rather have a stadium for concerts.

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Mayflower park is little more than a depressing car park anyway. Just get on with developing it.

they can't theres is a law that covers this that stops them from doing so, If the reclaim the moment it touches the tidel ground infront of the park, that land then would become part of the park and would be subject to the same laws and rules as the park as now, so it would have to be left open park land, and no developents allowed on that land.

Unreadable

Its not unreadable, its simple enough even for you to easy to understand.
There are Statue Laws thats stops them from doing what they want to do.
I break it down so a child can under stand.
1 the tidal land that is connected to the park as the same rights as the park, and the law of the land.
2 if that tidal ground get reclaimed then it becomes part of the park, and can not be built on, it must become part of the park with the same conditions that the park as.

G0Rf wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
So, poor gambling addicts who are trying to win the money they've lost over the years will have somewhere new to lose all of their money? Great one, then the council will put up posters about getting help for something they could have prevented.

Same as opening off licences or pubs/bars....another place for a pool alcoholic to go and get another beer.

If we all though like u ginger we would get nowhere.

Not everyone has an addiction problem!

Ginger has an addiction problem! Addicted to crowing about how good cycles are and never prepared to compromise with motorists. No one is forcing people to use Casinos. You are a proponent of the precautionary principle whch will totally undermine the economy. If you want to live by the precautionary principle, then crawl up in a ball and live in a cave!

G0Rf wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
So, poor gambling addicts who are trying to win the money they've lost over the years will have somewhere new to lose all of their money? Great one, then the council will put up posters about getting help for something they could have prevented.

Same as opening off licences or pubs/bars....another place for a pool alcoholic to go and get another beer.

If we all though like u ginger we would get nowhere.

Not everyone has an addiction problem!

In moderation, places like that are ok but when you start letting an off-licence open 100 meters from the previous new one all the way down roads and high streets or doing the same with gambling places, it gets to be a problem, wouldn't you agree?

you can buy(or at least were able to) buy the cheapest pint in town int he casino by leisure world when I was there couple years ago. No need for an offlicense near a casino. The booze is cheap so you loose more money. They get it.

southy wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:
Councillor Willians I would like to be inclued in the talks, when it concerns the Mayflower park area, you be breaking the law now if you allow any reclaiming of land connected to the park

Mayflower park is little more than a depressing car park anyway. Just get on with developing it.

they can't theres is a law that covers this that stops them from doing so, If the reclaim the moment it touches the tidel ground infront of the park, that land then would become part of the park and would be subject to the same laws and rules as the park as now, so it would have to be left open park land, and no developents allowed on that land.

Unreadable

Its not unreadable, its simple enough even for you to easy to understand.
There are Statue Laws thats stops them from doing what they want to do.
I break it down so a child can under stand.
1 the tidal land that is connected to the park as the same rights as the park, and the law of the land.
2 if that tidal ground get reclaimed then it becomes part of the park, and can not be built on, it must become part of the park with the same conditions that the park as.

'its simple enough even for you to easy to understand'

'statue laws'

'under stand'

'the tidal land that is connected to the park as the same rights as the park, and the law of the land. 2 if that tidal ground get reclaimed then it becomes part of the park, and can not be built on, it must become part of the park with the same conditions that the park as.'

Come back when you have reached the literacy levels of a seven year-old.

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
This is all about money rather than what is good for the city. The same reason the city builds more and more apartments, shops etc. It's funny how the Ski Slope and Ice Rink plans were shelved and then a Super Casino offering a £1m a year to the council suddenly finds itself close to agreement. There is already 2 casinos in the city so what is really needed? Will this really attract many to the city or is it intended to keep the Cruise shippers pre-occupied before boarding??

Why would anyone object to another casino in Southampton? At present the law allows only 20 slot machines in the 2 existing casinos. The LeisureWorld casino has a lot of trade at busier times, so much trade that lots of people coming for a play on the slots can't get on them as they're all taken up.
As a casino employee I will agree that problem gambling exists but even if more slots are added it doesn't necessarily mean more gambling problems will occur. If there are problems with gambling for some people they can still go and gamble in the existing venues. But there are effective controls that allow casino employers to recognise problem gamblers and WE DO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE TO STOP COMING, QUITE OFTEN WE IN THE CASINOS ACTUALLY 'BAR' THOSE WITH PROBLEMS.
The criteria should be about income for the city, taxes from the operators, jobs for people and another venue for Southampton. Yes it would be nice to have other recreational facilities but that's upto the Council to bargain for!