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Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking (From Daily Echo)
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Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking
8:00am Saturday 2nd February 2013 in News
Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking
CHANGES are being introduced to restrict parking at a supermarket car park.
Tesco is to install a camera-controlled car park system at its Fareham store.
It is designed to make it easier for people to find spaces and stop people using it for parking in the town centre.
Up until now, the store car park has been free of charge for everyone and local council car parks and businesses have lost revenue in the past year.
An automatic number plate recognition system will capture all vehicles as they enter and leave the car park.
Customers will now be given a special parking voucher at the checkout with a code.
The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee.
A £70 fine will be issued for those parked for more than two hours or for non-Tesco customers who have not used a voucher code.
Comments(35)
chunky_lover
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9:13am Sat 2 Feb 13
jen1
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9:24am Sat 2 Feb 13
Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then
__KTF__
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9:24am Sat 2 Feb 13
saintalive'n'kicking
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9:28am Sat 2 Feb 13
Boatman
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10:36am Sat 2 Feb 13
__KTF__ wrote:That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court.
The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.
Forest Resident
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11:31am Sat 2 Feb 13
Boatman wrote:Yes, but the civil court would only be able to award damages based upon the material loss. In this instance it would boil down to a few hours parking so approx £10 at most. There are very few instances of these matters being taken to civil court because of this. It's neither financially beneficial for the landowner to do so, and
__KTF__ wrote:That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court.
The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.
and in the case of large companies like Tesco it harms their public image.
bazzeroz
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11:52am Sat 2 Feb 13
rickey
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12:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13
sass
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1:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13
chunky_lover wrote:Rat's
who gives a rats about this.
For pity sake
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5:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13
bazzeroz wrote:"anpr"?
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
IronLady2010
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5:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
__KTF__
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6:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13
For pity sake wrote:Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else.
bazzeroz wrote:"anpr"?
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
Forest Resident
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6:13pm Sat 2 Feb 13
IronLady2010 wrote:Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
ohec
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6:16pm Sat 2 Feb 13
IronLady2010
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6:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Forest Resident wrote:On private property? Well, I've learned something! Thank you!
IronLady2010 wrote:Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
dolomiteman
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8:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13
IronLady2010 wrote:And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier?
For pity sake
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9:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13
__KTF__ wrote:Thanks for that - it shows the importance of using capitals appropriately. Had it been in capitals it would have looked less like a typing error and forced me to think about it.
For pity sake wrote:Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else.
bazzeroz wrote:"anpr"?
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
IronLady2010
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9:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13
dolomiteman wrote:No, you use the hairspray to stick the tissue over a few letters. If you are questioned, you simply blame it being stuck on without your knowledge. I think gaffer tape would be a bit too obvious ;-)
IronLady2010 wrote:And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier?
elvisimo
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10:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13
ohec wrote:Ah common sense comment
My God what a sad bunch if you cant afford to park a car then you can't afford a car, the only reason Tesco are being forced down this road is because people are abusing their car park, yes thats right THEIR car park. So Tesco are not happy and Fareham council are not happy because they are losing revenue from their car parks,if anybody thinks Tesco wants to go to all this expense and trouble they are mad but they have to protect their own interests as well as keeping the council happy, how would you feel if you got home to find somebody parked on your drive. And to all of those amateur legal beagles out there who say you don't have to pay TRY IT.
bazzeroz
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10:58pm Sat 2 Feb 13
For pity sake wrote:An automatic number plate recognition system will capture all vehicles as they enter and leave the car park.
bazzeroz wrote:"anpr"?
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
Totton Tim
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7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13
Totton Tim
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7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13
Totton Tim
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7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13
SotonLad
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8:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13
Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"
Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
sabre2th1
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11:36pm Sun 3 Feb 13
ts time for uprising!
IronLady2010
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11:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13
SotonLad wrote:You raise a good point regarding what happens if they don't have what you went in for.
"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee."
Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"
Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
There is a Sainsbury's in London who operate a similar system, they have a 15 minute grace period so if the car park is full and you have to leave without parking you don't get charged.
On saying this I'm sure Tesco Customer Services would provide the exit voucher if you can prove you've only recently entered the car park and they didn't have what you wanted in stock.
I can't see Tesco wanting to anger people, so their must be more flexibility than this article is suggesting.
andysaints007
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12:09am Mon 4 Feb 13
News Fanatic wrote:WOW!! You can count - well done
A £70 fine is £10 more than that for speeding which could put lives at risk.
andysaints007
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12:09am Mon 4 Feb 13
jen1 wrote:Bye then x
So if you just want to buy a pint of milk and a sandwich, or they don't have what you want, you have to pay £70.
Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then
andysaints007
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12:12am Mon 4 Feb 13
Forest Resident wrote:Wrong
IronLady2010 wrote:Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
andysaints007
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12:15am Mon 4 Feb 13
Totton Tim wrote:And just what do you propose they do then ?
f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.
andysaints007
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12:16am Mon 4 Feb 13
SotonLad wrote:Take a chill pill d*ckhead
"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee."
Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"
Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
IronLady2010
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12:19am Mon 4 Feb 13
Forest Resident
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7:39am Mon 4 Feb 13
andysaints007 wrote:How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts.
Forest Resident wrote:Wrong
IronLady2010 wrote:Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Niel
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2:00pm Mon 4 Feb 13
Forest Resident wrote:The relevant phrase is 'in a public place', so it doesn't have to be a road at all...
andysaints007 wrote:How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts.
Forest Resident wrote:Wrong
IronLady2010 wrote:Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.
Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
News Fanatic says...
8:57am Sat 2 Feb 13