Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking

Daily Echo: Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking Supermarket cameras to restrict free parking

CHANGES are being introduced to restrict parking at a supermarket car park.

Tesco is to install a camera-controlled car park system at its Fareham store.

It is designed to make it easier for people to find spaces and stop people using it for parking in the town centre.

Up until now, the store car park has been free of charge for everyone and local council car parks and businesses have lost revenue in the past year.

An automatic number plate recognition system will capture all vehicles as they enter and leave the car park.

Customers will now be given a special parking voucher at the checkout with a code.

The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee.

A £70 fine will be issued for those parked for more than two hours or for non-Tesco customers who have not used a voucher code.

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8:57am Sat 2 Feb 13

News Fanatic says...

A £70 fine is £10 more than that for speeding which could put lives at risk.
A £70 fine is £10 more than that for speeding which could put lives at risk. News Fanatic

9:13am Sat 2 Feb 13

chunky_lover says...

who gives a rats about this.
who gives a rats about this. chunky_lover

9:24am Sat 2 Feb 13

jen1 says...

So if you just want to buy a pint of milk and a sandwich, or they don't have what you want, you have to pay £70.

Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then
So if you just want to buy a pint of milk and a sandwich, or they don't have what you want, you have to pay £70. Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then jen1

9:24am Sat 2 Feb 13

__KTF__ says...

The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.
The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway. __KTF__

9:28am Sat 2 Feb 13

saintalive'n'kicking says...

Typical of FBC. They are just money grabbing any way. Hence stopped going there to shop.
Typical of FBC. They are just money grabbing any way. Hence stopped going there to shop. saintalive'n'kicking

10:36am Sat 2 Feb 13

Boatman says...

__KTF__ wrote:
The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.
That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court.
[quote][p][bold]__KTF__[/bold] wrote: The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.[/p][/quote]That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court. Boatman

11:31am Sat 2 Feb 13

Forest Resident says...

Boatman wrote:
__KTF__ wrote:
The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.
That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court.
Yes, but the civil court would only be able to award damages based upon the material loss. In this instance it would boil down to a few hours parking so approx £10 at most. There are very few instances of these matters being taken to civil court because of this. It's neither financially beneficial for the landowner to do so, and
and in the case of large companies like Tesco it harms their public image.
[quote][p][bold]Boatman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]__KTF__[/bold] wrote: The 'fine' wont be enforceable anyway.[/p][/quote]That is to say the least arguable. As long as signage is clear you will, if you park there, be deemed to have accepted the T&C's and entered into a contract enforceable in the civil court.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the civil court would only be able to award damages based upon the material loss. In this instance it would boil down to a few hours parking so approx £10 at most. There are very few instances of these matters being taken to civil court because of this. It's neither financially beneficial for the landowner to do so, and and in the case of large companies like Tesco it harms their public image. Forest Resident

11:52am Sat 2 Feb 13

bazzeroz says...

It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps. bazzeroz

12:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

rickey says...

Its quite simple for me, I just will not go there any more. What happens if you don't buy something worth £5, do you have to pay or what. There are enough supermarkets around here anyway and the new Gosport one will be open this year.
Its quite simple for me, I just will not go there any more. What happens if you don't buy something worth £5, do you have to pay or what. There are enough supermarkets around here anyway and the new Gosport one will be open this year. rickey

1:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

sass says...

chunky_lover wrote:
who gives a rats about this.
Rat's
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: who gives a rats about this.[/p][/quote]Rat's sass

5:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13

For pity sake says...

bazzeroz wrote:
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
"anpr"?
[quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.[/p][/quote]"anpr"? For pity sake

5:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal. IronLady2010

6:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

__KTF__ says...

For pity sake wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
"anpr"?
Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else.
[quote][p][bold]For pity sake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.[/p][/quote]"anpr"?[/p][/quote]Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else. __KTF__

6:13pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Forest Resident says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law. Forest Resident

6:16pm Sat 2 Feb 13

ohec says...

My God what a sad bunch if you cant afford to park a car then you can't afford a car, the only reason Tesco are being forced down this road is because people are abusing their car park, yes thats right THEIR car park. So Tesco are not happy and Fareham council are not happy because they are losing revenue from their car parks,if anybody thinks Tesco wants to go to all this expense and trouble they are mad but they have to protect their own interests as well as keeping the council happy, how would you feel if you got home to find somebody parked on your drive. And to all of those amateur legal beagles out there who say you don't have to pay TRY IT.
My God what a sad bunch if you cant afford to park a car then you can't afford a car, the only reason Tesco are being forced down this road is because people are abusing their car park, yes thats right THEIR car park. So Tesco are not happy and Fareham council are not happy because they are losing revenue from their car parks,if anybody thinks Tesco wants to go to all this expense and trouble they are mad but they have to protect their own interests as well as keeping the council happy, how would you feel if you got home to find somebody parked on your drive. And to all of those amateur legal beagles out there who say you don't have to pay TRY IT. ohec

6:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Forest Resident wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
On private property? Well, I've learned something! Thank you!
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.[/p][/quote]On private property? Well, I've learned something! Thank you! IronLady2010

8:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

dolomiteman says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate.
Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier?
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate. Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier? dolomiteman

9:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13

For pity sake says...

__KTF__ wrote:
For pity sake wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
"anpr"?
Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else.
Thanks for that - it shows the importance of using capitals appropriately. Had it been in capitals it would have looked less like a typing error and forced me to think about it.
[quote][p][bold]__KTF__[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]For pity sake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.[/p][/quote]"anpr"?[/p][/quote]Automatic Number Plate Reader. Like the one they have in Gunwharf that puts your registration on the ticket to stop you swapping tickets with someone else.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that - it shows the importance of using capitals appropriately. Had it been in capitals it would have looked less like a typing error and forced me to think about it. For pity sake

9:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

dolomiteman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate.
Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier?
No, you use the hairspray to stick the tissue over a few letters. If you are questioned, you simply blame it being stuck on without your knowledge. I think gaffer tape would be a bit too obvious ;-)
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]And a waste of money because spraying your number plate with hairspray has no effect on the ANPR camera reading the plate. Or did you mean use the tissue to tie the can to the number plate, that would work but wouldn't just using gaffer tape be easier?[/p][/quote]No, you use the hairspray to stick the tissue over a few letters. If you are questioned, you simply blame it being stuck on without your knowledge. I think gaffer tape would be a bit too obvious ;-) IronLady2010

10:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

ohec wrote:
My God what a sad bunch if you cant afford to park a car then you can't afford a car, the only reason Tesco are being forced down this road is because people are abusing their car park, yes thats right THEIR car park. So Tesco are not happy and Fareham council are not happy because they are losing revenue from their car parks,if anybody thinks Tesco wants to go to all this expense and trouble they are mad but they have to protect their own interests as well as keeping the council happy, how would you feel if you got home to find somebody parked on your drive. And to all of those amateur legal beagles out there who say you don't have to pay TRY IT.
Ah common sense comment
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: My God what a sad bunch if you cant afford to park a car then you can't afford a car, the only reason Tesco are being forced down this road is because people are abusing their car park, yes thats right THEIR car park. So Tesco are not happy and Fareham council are not happy because they are losing revenue from their car parks,if anybody thinks Tesco wants to go to all this expense and trouble they are mad but they have to protect their own interests as well as keeping the council happy, how would you feel if you got home to find somebody parked on your drive. And to all of those amateur legal beagles out there who say you don't have to pay TRY IT.[/p][/quote]Ah common sense comment elvisimo

10:58pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bazzeroz says...

For pity sake wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.
"anpr"?
An automatic number plate recognition system will capture all vehicles as they enter and leave the car park.
[quote][p][bold]For pity sake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: It's not a fine it'll be an invoice. If you get one don't pay it and surely anpr, in a private place is an infringement of your human rights. Supermarkets that do this are doing themselves no favours at all. So, not every little helps.[/p][/quote]"anpr"?[/p][/quote]An automatic number plate recognition system will capture all vehicles as they enter and leave the car park. bazzeroz

7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13

Totton Tim says...

f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.
f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then. Totton Tim

7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13

Totton Tim says...

f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.
f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then. Totton Tim

7:04am Sun 3 Feb 13

Totton Tim says...

f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.
f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then. Totton Tim

8:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SotonLad says...

"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee."

Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"

Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee." Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?" Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all. SotonLad

11:36pm Sun 3 Feb 13

sabre2th1 says...

Man, you know what... Im tired of these bull **** draconian measures by big **** corporations, thinkin they own us...shiiiiieeet...i
ts time for uprising!
Man, you know what... Im tired of these bull **** draconian measures by big **** corporations, thinkin they own us...shiiiiieeet...i ts time for uprising! sabre2th1

11:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

SotonLad wrote:
"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee."

Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"

Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
You raise a good point regarding what happens if they don't have what you went in for.

There is a Sainsbury's in London who operate a similar system, they have a 15 minute grace period so if the car park is full and you have to leave without parking you don't get charged.

On saying this I'm sure Tesco Customer Services would provide the exit voucher if you can prove you've only recently entered the car park and they didn't have what you wanted in stock.

I can't see Tesco wanting to anger people, so their must be more flexibility than this article is suggesting.
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: "The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee." Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?" Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.[/p][/quote]You raise a good point regarding what happens if they don't have what you went in for. There is a Sainsbury's in London who operate a similar system, they have a 15 minute grace period so if the car park is full and you have to leave without parking you don't get charged. On saying this I'm sure Tesco Customer Services would provide the exit voucher if you can prove you've only recently entered the car park and they didn't have what you wanted in stock. I can't see Tesco wanting to anger people, so their must be more flexibility than this article is suggesting. IronLady2010

12:09am Mon 4 Feb 13

andysaints007 says...

News Fanatic wrote:
A £70 fine is £10 more than that for speeding which could put lives at risk.
WOW!! You can count - well done
[quote][p][bold]News Fanatic[/bold] wrote: A £70 fine is £10 more than that for speeding which could put lives at risk.[/p][/quote]WOW!! You can count - well done andysaints007

12:09am Mon 4 Feb 13

andysaints007 says...

jen1 wrote:
So if you just want to buy a pint of milk and a sandwich, or they don't have what you want, you have to pay £70.

Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then
Bye then x
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: So if you just want to buy a pint of milk and a sandwich, or they don't have what you want, you have to pay £70. Oh well, off to asda or sainsburys then[/p][/quote]Bye then x andysaints007

12:12am Mon 4 Feb 13

andysaints007 says...

Forest Resident wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
Wrong
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.[/p][/quote]Wrong andysaints007

12:15am Mon 4 Feb 13

andysaints007 says...

Totton Tim wrote:
f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.
And just what do you propose they do then ?
[quote][p][bold]Totton Tim[/bold] wrote: f I remember rightly, only a short while ago, at Merry Oak, Southampton,a vets practice introduced parking "fines" for drivers parking in their car park when shopping at next door Tescos. I don't remember Tescos doing much to help the situation then.[/p][/quote]And just what do you propose they do then ? andysaints007

12:16am Mon 4 Feb 13

andysaints007 says...

SotonLad wrote:
"The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee."

Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?"

Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.
Take a chill pill d*ckhead
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: "The regulations, which come into force on Monday, February 11, give two hours free parking for Tesco customers who spend £5 or more in the store, which includes Tesco Direct, the pharmacy and Costa Coffee." Daily Echo - why have you not contacted Tesco like a proper journalist and asked the question "what if Tesco don't have what you wanted or you don't spend £5.00?" Echo, you are rubbish. For gods sake sort yourselves out once and for all.[/p][/quote]Take a chill pill d*ckhead andysaints007

12:19am Mon 4 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Am waiting for my feedback from Andy lol xxx (crash helmet is on)
Am waiting for my feedback from Andy lol xxx (crash helmet is on) IronLady2010

7:39am Mon 4 Feb 13

Forest Resident says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
Wrong
How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.[/p][/quote]Wrong[/p][/quote]How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts. Forest Resident

2:00pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Niel says...

Forest Resident wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate.

Whilst on private land this is totally legal.
Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.
Wrong
How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts.
The relevant phrase is 'in a public place', so it doesn't have to be a road at all...
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The solution is simple, carry a can of hairspray and some tissue. Ensure you are off the public highway and then using the hairspray cover up part of your number plate. Whilst on private land this is totally legal.[/p][/quote]Nice try, however under the road traffic act the vast majority of car parks are deemed to be a 'public road' and as such the driver is subject to the full force of the law.[/p][/quote]Wrong[/p][/quote]How so? I know of a number of successfully prosecuted cases where offences including drink driving, dangerous driving, and others which were all committed in supermarket car parks. In order for these to have been successfully prosecuted then they must have been deemed a public road by the courts.[/p][/quote]The relevant phrase is 'in a public place', so it doesn't have to be a road at all... Niel

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