Poverty crisis summit to be held in Hampshire

Daily Echo: The launch of the Enough Food for Everyone IF campaign at Winchester Cathedral The launch of the Enough Food for Everyone IF campaign at Winchester Cathedral

WITH austerity measures taking their toll and with more cuts on the way, organisations in Hampshire are coming together to help people living on the breadline.

Christian housing charity Green Pastures has organised a meeting for businesses, charities and churches to help the county’s most needy.

Matters discussed on the day and decisions made will depend on the organisations who attend.

A number of organisations have already shown interest in the Poverty Crisis Summit, including local councils and charities, as well as the Southampton Christian Network.

After four years of recession and cuts, and more cuts on their way, including April’s changes to housing benefit, poverty is affecting more and more people and has become high on the agenda for churches.

According to a report by Oxfam, more than one in five people in the UK currently live below the poverty line, with many of these at risk of becoming unintentionally homeless as they struggle to keep up with rent arrears.

Pete Cunningham, known as Pastor Pete, from Green Pastures, said: “It’s not about who created the need for cuts, nor is it about why the cuts are necessary.

“It’s about the effect those cuts are having on individuals, families and communities, and how we can at least cushion some of those effects by working together as people who do actually care.”

The Poverty Crisis Summit will run from 10am to 3.30pm, on Thursday, February 21, at Testwood Baptist Church Conference Centre, Totton.

Organisations interested in getting involved should call John Cunningham at Green Pastures, on 07970 867157 or email john@greenpastures.net.

Details of the meeting come just a week after the Bishops of Winchester and Southampton got behind the Enough Food for Everyone IF campaign, which aims to put pressure on David Cameron and other G8 members to put an end to the main causes of hunger.

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2:45pm Sun 3 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first.. J.P.M
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10:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

derek james says...

J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
how can you you say that when there's pensioners on probably the lowest state pension in europe facing continuously rising utility bills, food bills, transport and no doubt others i've failed to mention, truly a stupid comment
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]how can you you say that when there's pensioners on probably the lowest state pension in europe facing continuously rising utility bills, food bills, transport and no doubt others i've failed to mention, truly a stupid comment derek james
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11:18pm Sun 3 Feb 13

solomum says...

J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves. solomum
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11:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

solomum wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc.

Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on.

I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own.

Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.[/p][/quote]Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc. Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on. I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own. Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible. IronLady2010
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10:52am Mon 4 Feb 13

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
solomum wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc.

Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on.

I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own.

Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.
Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets.
And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.[/p][/quote]Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc. Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on. I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own. Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets. And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is. southy
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1:58pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
solomum wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc.

Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on.

I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own.

Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.
Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets.
And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.
Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.[/p][/quote]Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc. Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on. I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own. Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets. And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon. Torchie1
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2:57pm Mon 4 Feb 13

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
solomum wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc.

Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on.

I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own.

Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.
Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets.
And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.
Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon.
Yes Stalin was a communist a Capitalist Communist, if you knew any thing about history then you would know Stalin was not a member to the Communist Party, he was not a member to any Socialist party or group, but he was a full paid member to the Republicans Provinalist Party which was a Capitalist party, and why Stalin was involved in the 2nd Revolution in the Spring 1917 and took no part in the 3rd Revolution in October 1917, and was one of those that wanted Lenin arrested on entering Russia, and why when he came to head the country he went after Communist, Socialist and Union Leaders and arrested them or had them murdered.
So when you refere to Stalin remember he was a Capitalist Communist and stop trying to give a false impression.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.[/p][/quote]Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc. Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on. I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own. Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets. And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon.[/p][/quote]Yes Stalin was a communist a Capitalist Communist, if you knew any thing about history then you would know Stalin was not a member to the Communist Party, he was not a member to any Socialist party or group, but he was a full paid member to the Republicans Provinalist Party which was a Capitalist party, and why Stalin was involved in the 2nd Revolution in the Spring 1917 and took no part in the 3rd Revolution in October 1917, and was one of those that wanted Lenin arrested on entering Russia, and why when he came to head the country he went after Communist, Socialist and Union Leaders and arrested them or had them murdered. So when you refere to Stalin remember he was a Capitalist Communist and stop trying to give a false impression. southy
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4:22pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
solomum wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
What a sanctimonious waste of time.

There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth.

Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society.

Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..
There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.
Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc.

Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on.

I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own.

Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.
Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets.
And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.
Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon.
Yes Stalin was a communist a Capitalist Communist, if you knew any thing about history then you would know Stalin was not a member to the Communist Party, he was not a member to any Socialist party or group, but he was a full paid member to the Republicans Provinalist Party which was a Capitalist party, and why Stalin was involved in the 2nd Revolution in the Spring 1917 and took no part in the 3rd Revolution in October 1917, and was one of those that wanted Lenin arrested on entering Russia, and why when he came to head the country he went after Communist, Socialist and Union Leaders and arrested them or had them murdered.
So when you refere to Stalin remember he was a Capitalist Communist and stop trying to give a false impression.
I'm a bit confused as to why Stalin's official biography refers to his appointment by Lenin to the position of General secretary of the Communist Party in April 1922 ! Having demonstrated your complete misunderstanding on such a wide range of topics, I suppose you are now declaring the history of Russia as accepted by Moscow is now wrong and you alone know the truth on this subject as well. Do you want to reflect on your recent embarrassments of 'Bedroom Tax' ,'Council Tax' , Tax free ISAs, Magna Carta, etc etc etc before digging yourself in deeper?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious waste of time. There is not one person in this country who is hungry, due to lack of wealth. Look more towards domestic abuse, drugs and alcohol, for the causes of malnutrition in society. Hang on, then the do-gooders may have to look at themselves and their godly institutions first..[/p][/quote]There are thousands in this country who are hungry due to lack of wealth. A lot of them are innocent children who are not fortunate enough to have parents/carers that put the needs of the child first, but a lot of them are adults who are struggling to bring in a wage that is sufficient to pay for the essentials. Also those who have no homes or family and are left to fend for themselves on the streets. Count your blessings that you are not one of them and perhaps think about how you can help rather than knocking those who are procatively looking for ways to assist those less fortunate than themselves.[/p][/quote]Solomum, whilst I agree with you that there are some parents who don't feed their children as they should. To my knowledge in this country no-one is forced to go without food etc. Please, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but any homeless person would be offered a place in a Hostel at the very least and be given benefits according to what the Law says they need to live on. I can understand pensioners who have a large home being poor as they are heating a large place on their own. Like I say, forgive my ignorance if I'm off the mark. But no-one in the UK should be in poverty unless they are being irresponsible.[/p][/quote]Thats why there is soup kitchens in every major city in the UK, and why there are people living on the streets. And yes you are being innorant to the real situation in the UK, and it as nothing to do with people being irresponsible, its the Economics and Political Policy we have, it favours those with wealth and power to gain more and the rest get less. but that is the nature of capitalism and you will find this same problem in very single capitalist country in the world, the more capitalist they are the worse it is.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, the 5 million that perished as a result of Stalins agricultural reforms in the early 1930s seem to have slipped your mind. The world, all except you know that Stalin was a communist. I confidently expect the products of your 'research' to flow freely for the rest of the afternoon.[/p][/quote]Yes Stalin was a communist a Capitalist Communist, if you knew any thing about history then you would know Stalin was not a member to the Communist Party, he was not a member to any Socialist party or group, but he was a full paid member to the Republicans Provinalist Party which was a Capitalist party, and why Stalin was involved in the 2nd Revolution in the Spring 1917 and took no part in the 3rd Revolution in October 1917, and was one of those that wanted Lenin arrested on entering Russia, and why when he came to head the country he went after Communist, Socialist and Union Leaders and arrested them or had them murdered. So when you refere to Stalin remember he was a Capitalist Communist and stop trying to give a false impression.[/p][/quote]I'm a bit confused as to why Stalin's official biography refers to his appointment by Lenin to the position of General secretary of the Communist Party in April 1922 ! Having demonstrated your complete misunderstanding on such a wide range of topics, I suppose you are now declaring the history of Russia as accepted by Moscow is now wrong and you alone know the truth on this subject as well. Do you want to reflect on your recent embarrassments of 'Bedroom Tax' ,'Council Tax' , Tax free ISAs, Magna Carta, etc etc etc before digging yourself in deeper? Torchie1
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11:29pm Tue 5 Feb 13

stay local says...

The only poverty I have seen in the UK is secondary poverty where the family have redirected their resources away for food etc. into alcohol cigarettes plasma screens and I phones. I am not saving they have a surfeit of money, but that many have chosen badly when it comes to budgeting. Try looking in other countries for abject poverty.
The only poverty I have seen in the UK is secondary poverty where the family have redirected their resources away for food etc. into alcohol cigarettes plasma screens and I phones. I am not saving they have a surfeit of money, but that many have chosen badly when it comes to budgeting. Try looking in other countries for abject poverty. stay local
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