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the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

Political analysis is a lot better than yours will ever be, but thats more than likely i got involve and dealing with it on the inside, unlike your self standing on the out side trying to look in.

southy wrote:
Political analysis is a lot better than yours will ever be, but thats more than likely i got involve and dealing with it on the inside, unlike your self standing on the out side trying to look in.

.. oh yes, the 'inside' of a fantasist Trotskyist party and the 'inside' of an inefficient left-grouping into which the entryist Trotskyists are infiltrating. That must give you such a broad political prospectus; you can see it all from there, can’t you?

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

.. ah, Labour to win. And when will this be? Ah, I see again, it's all down to the TUC. Well, looks like 2015 then, don't you think? That's my prediction.

And this 'rank and file', a much loved jolly old far left term. Alas, it now consists of an infinitesimally small number of people like you. And, quite frankly, you are not capable persuading union members to commit fiscal and employment suicide in your determination to bring down a democratically elected government by revolutionary undemocratic means.

So, your new revised date for the next general election is?

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
Political analysis is a lot better than yours will ever be, but thats more than likely i got involve and dealing with it on the inside, unlike your self standing on the out side trying to look in.

.. oh yes, the 'inside' of a fantasist Trotskyist party and the 'inside' of an inefficient left-grouping into which the entryist Trotskyists are infiltrating. That must give you such a broad political prospectus; you can see it all from there, can’t you?

Even low I am not a Trotskyist (mind you can not tell the difference what is and what is not), Trotskyist policy is not a fantacy it could work because it deals with the needs of the majority just that he went round it a different way to other Socialist, like his princables if the Country was run by the working class there would be no need for Unions so why have them, As a Leninist Socialist see the need for Unions, but then i would not expect you under stand that with your Far Right wing Idealogy

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

.. ah, Labour to win. And when will this be? Ah, I see again, it's all down to the TUC. Well, looks like 2015 then, don't you think? That's my prediction.

And this 'rank and file', a much loved jolly old far left term. Alas, it now consists of an infinitesimally small number of people like you. And, quite frankly, you are not capable persuading union members to commit fiscal and employment suicide in your determination to bring down a democratically elected government by revolutionary undemocratic means.

So, your new revised date for the next general election is?

Its not going to last that long for this Government, Labour only needs to win one more by election seat that they do not all ready hold on to, and this Government can be force to early election.
The General election should of happen or been called last year and it would of been if the TUC had back its rank and file members.
The Term Rank and File is not a really a left wing term, it belongs to the old Imperialist Capitalist. and is only just used as a term meaning the men at the front line.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

1) A general strilke would not make the government abandon its austerity programme. 2) According to your prediction, if the government is brought down, we will get a Labour government, which does not subscribe to your No Cuts policy.

Either way, a general strike would be a fruitless gesture. Unless of course you think it would lead to an Icelandic style "revolution".

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

.. ah, Labour to win. And when will this be? Ah, I see again, it's all down to the TUC. Well, looks like 2015 then, don't you think? That's my prediction.

And this 'rank and file', a much loved jolly old far left term. Alas, it now consists of an infinitesimally small number of people like you. And, quite frankly, you are not capable persuading union members to commit fiscal and employment suicide in your determination to bring down a democratically elected government by revolutionary undemocratic means.

So, your new revised date for the next general election is?

Its not going to last that long for this Government, Labour only needs to win one more by election seat that they do not all ready hold on to, and this Government can be force to early election.
The General election should of happen or been called last year and it would of been if the TUC had back its rank and file members.
The Term Rank and File is not a really a left wing term, it belongs to the old Imperialist Capitalist. and is only just used as a term meaning the men at the front line.

.. oh dear. So, you are saying you were actually right that there was to be a general election before the end of 2012 – ‘should of happen’ and ‘would have been’. That really is taking historical revisionism a bit far, even for the far-left. Fact is, you were wrong in your analysis, full stop.

It is also very insulting to the hard working lower paid workforce to say their political aspirations were only foiled by the far-right TUC bosses. I thought you kept telling us that unions are democratic and the elected leaders do what their members tell them to do. Now you are saying that is far from the case and it is the union bosses who undemocratically impose their dictatorial views on the poor voiceless workers. Make up your mind southy.

Oh, and a date for the next general election? Come on, you were so positive after the last general election as to exactly when it would be. Are you losing your political nerve?

And oh look there is an Eastleigh by-election coming up Huhne has resigned as MP

southy wrote:
And oh look there is an Eastleigh by-election coming up Huhne has resigned as MP

.. old news southy. I knew that nearly 3 hours ago. And TUSC? Standing?

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

.. ah, Labour to win. And when will this be? Ah, I see again, it's all down to the TUC. Well, looks like 2015 then, don't you think? That's my prediction.

And this 'rank and file', a much loved jolly old far left term. Alas, it now consists of an infinitesimally small number of people like you. And, quite frankly, you are not capable persuading union members to commit fiscal and employment suicide in your determination to bring down a democratically elected government by revolutionary undemocratic means.

So, your new revised date for the next general election is?

Its not going to last that long for this Government, Labour only needs to win one more by election seat that they do not all ready hold on to, and this Government can be force to early election.
The General election should of happen or been called last year and it would of been if the TUC had back its rank and file members.
The Term Rank and File is not a really a left wing term, it belongs to the old Imperialist Capitalist. and is only just used as a term meaning the men at the front line.

.. oh dear. So, you are saying you were actually right that there was to be a general election before the end of 2012 – ‘should of happen’ and ‘would have been’. That really is taking historical revisionism a bit far, even for the far-left. Fact is, you were wrong in your analysis, full stop.

It is also very insulting to the hard working lower paid workforce to say their political aspirations were only foiled by the far-right TUC bosses. I thought you kept telling us that unions are democratic and the elected leaders do what their members tell them to do. Now you are saying that is far from the case and it is the union bosses who undemocratically impose their dictatorial views on the poor voiceless workers. Make up your mind southy.

Oh, and a date for the next general election? Come on, you were so positive after the last general election as to exactly when it would be. Are you losing your political nerve?

No I said should of been, but the right wing leadership of the TUSC is holding every thing up. 1 day General strike will do nothing to the Economy it will just restart where it left off, like it did in the last General Strike and that one was much longer. Strikes have never hurt the economy, and saying it do is just false propaganda, the only people it hurts is the rich and powerful with lost of pocket money

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
And oh look there is an Eastleigh by-election coming up Huhne has resigned as MP

.. old news southy. I knew that nearly 3 hours ago. And TUSC? Standing?

I don't think we will be, they might but if they do it be the last minute thing yet again.

On not again.... I haven't got over the weekend of Southy rants and we're off again already with Southy speaking on our behalf.

"We all know Labour will win the next general election."

Please Southy, never ever speak on my behalf as I will rarely agree with anything you spout out.

IronLady2010 wrote:
On not again.... I haven't got over the weekend of Southy rants and we're off again already with Southy speaking on our behalf.

"We all know Labour will win the next general election."

Please Southy, never ever speak on my behalf as I will rarely agree with anything you spout out.

any one can see what is going to happen at the next General election, even you know that even lo you will not ammitt it to your self, This Government as done to much damage, and tried to gain some popularity with the EU ref, but it has not work, they was a very weak government as it was, it might be possable you could be seeing the last time the Torys in Power, the back lash is going to be far greater than the one the Labour party took in 2010

I wonder how many bars of soaps Huhne will be picking up in the showers.

He got to be looking being in prison for a few mths

southy wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
On not again.... I haven't got over the weekend of Southy rants and we're off again already with Southy speaking on our behalf.

"We all know Labour will win the next general election."

Please Southy, never ever speak on my behalf as I will rarely agree with anything you spout out.

any one can see what is going to happen at the next General election, even you know that even lo you will not ammitt it to your self, This Government as done to much damage, and tried to gain some popularity with the EU ref, but it has not work, they was a very weak government as it was, it might be possable you could be seeing the last time the Torys in Power, the back lash is going to be far greater than the one the Labour party took in 2010

The crystal ball they have issued, well mine got lost in the post, so I must be one of the few who is unable to predict the future.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
the government is getting worried thinking that a few £s will settle the people down, and a offer of a EU vote.
Think its to late the damage as been done

.. so, that's what you think?

Want to make another prediction about the next general election then? You got the last one hopelessly wrong. Political analysis is not your strong point, is it?

We all know Labour will win the next general election, and that will happen the moment the TUC decide to get there finger out of there butts and start doing what the rank and file of the unions want insted of keep veto there requests, they had to be push in to the London demo's and rallys.
The rank and file are calling for a 1 day General Strike action, to do one or 2 things 1 is to to get the government to stop with the enforce cuts or 2 bring this government down if they dont change

.. ah, Labour to win. And when will this be? Ah, I see again, it's all down to the TUC. Well, looks like 2015 then, don't you think? That's my prediction.

And this 'rank and file', a much loved jolly old far left term. Alas, it now consists of an infinitesimally small number of people like you. And, quite frankly, you are not capable persuading union members to commit fiscal and employment suicide in your determination to bring down a democratically elected government by revolutionary undemocratic means.

So, your new revised date for the next general election is?

Its not going to last that long for this Government, Labour only needs to win one more by election seat that they do not all ready hold on to, and this Government can be force to early election.
The General election should of happen or been called last year and it would of been if the TUC had back its rank and file members.
The Term Rank and File is not a really a left wing term, it belongs to the old Imperialist Capitalist. and is only just used as a term meaning the men at the front line.

.. oh dear. So, you are saying you were actually right that there was to be a general election before the end of 2012 – ‘should of happen’ and ‘would have been’. That really is taking historical revisionism a bit far, even for the far-left. Fact is, you were wrong in your analysis, full stop.

It is also very insulting to the hard working lower paid workforce to say their political aspirations were only foiled by the far-right TUC bosses. I thought you kept telling us that unions are democratic and the elected leaders do what their members tell them to do. Now you are saying that is far from the case and it is the union bosses who undemocratically impose their dictatorial views on the poor voiceless workers. Make up your mind southy.

Oh, and a date for the next general election? Come on, you were so positive after the last general election as to exactly when it would be. Are you losing your political nerve?

No I said should of been, but the right wing leadership of the TUSC is holding every thing up. 1 day General strike will do nothing to the Economy it will just restart where it left off, like it did in the last General Strike and that one was much longer. Strikes have never hurt the economy, and saying it do is just false propaganda, the only people it hurts is the rich and powerful with lost of pocket money

.. so, just a little rant about general strikes, which you now say 'do nothing', but it's apparently what the rank and file want.

And, we would have had a general election by now but for the TUC ignoring the rank and file; who presumably still wanted that general strike, that ‘would’ have brought down the government and given us a general election before the end of 2012 - as you predicted.

It's all getting a little confusing, don't you think?

And nothing to say on union leaders being able, apparently, to overrule the democratic wishes of their members? And no prediction for the general election date?

Oh, that is a disappointing response from the seasoned political commentator, whose membership of a political party means he’s on the ‘inside’ and therefore privy to so much more information than us mortals.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
And oh look there is an Eastleigh by-election coming up Huhne has resigned as MP

.. old news southy. I knew that nearly 3 hours ago. And TUSC? Standing?

I don't think we will be, they might but if they do it be the last minute thing yet again.

.. so, don't want to test your popularity?

Don't blame you; it must be so depressing getting so few votes, despite the masses of the 'rank and file' crying out for a true left wing candidate.