Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg to start by-election race

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg to start byelction race

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg to start byelction race

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Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg will fire the starting gun in the Liberal Democrats' Eastleigh by-election campaign today with a promise to press for higher taxes on the wealthy to ease the burden on ''hard-working families''.

In the Commons, Lib Dem chief whip Alistair Carmichael will move the writ formally triggering the contest to elect a successor to disgraced former Cabinet minister Chris Huhne.

Polling will take place in just three weeks' time, on February 28, in a battle which will pitch the Lib Dems into a head-to-head fight with their Coalition partners, the Tories, who finished second in the 2010 general election.

Both parties are braced for a bruising contest, with Conservative Party chairman Grant Shapps signalling that they intend to focus on Huhne's past after he pleaded guilty in court to dodging punishment for a speeding offence.

''The residents of Eastleigh have for a long time been sold a lie by their Lib Dem MP. That's why they'll welcome the opportunity to express the way they feel about it very soon,'' he said.

''Conservatives will present the opportunity to start afresh with a hard-working local MP who gets on with looking after her constituents.''

Lib Dems insisted their decision, as the sitting party in the constituency, to opt for a short contest reflected the high state of preparedness of the local party, even though they have yet to choose a candidate.

''We are going to throw the kitchen sink at it. I'm pretty sure that the Conservatives will as well,'' one source said.

''It is going to be a tight contest, and generally in tight contests in two-way marginals you get some pretty robust exchanges.''

Mr Clegg is expected to travel to the Hampshire constituency to campaign as soon as he can clear the space in his diary. Officials would not be drawn on whether he would offer an apology for Huhne's conduct, but acknowledged that he would have to deal with the issue.

''Clearly the issue of Chris Huhne's resignation as an MP is going to be of relevance to the by-election,'' the source said.

Officially, the Lib Dems want to make jobs and taxes the key campaign issues - drawing clear battlelines with the Conservatives.

Mr Clegg will use a speech at the Institute for Government in London today to highlight the Lib Dems' commitment to a 1% annual ''mansion tax'' levied on properties worth more than £2 million - a proposal the Tories have consistently rejected.

Alternatively, he will say, the Lib Dems will press for the introduction of new council tax bands at the top end, again affecting properties worth more than £2 million.

''That we should ask a small number of very wealthy individuals to make a reasonable contribution, in order to provide desperately needed help for millions of ordinary people - nothing could do more to demonstrate a commitment to greater fairness in our tax system,'' he is expected to say.

''It's an open secret that our Conservative partners do not share our views on this. However, we will continue to make this argument, in this Coalition and beyond.

''Our approach is simple: taxes on mansions, tax cuts for millions. An approach to tax that puts payslips before palaces, if you like.''

The Lib Dems will select their candidate at a private hustings on Saturday. Officials insist they are confident of retaining a seat they have held since 1994.

Huhne had a majority of 3,684 at the last general election and the party has not lost a seat in a by-election for more than 50 years.

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8:26am Thu 7 Feb 13

Vix1 says...

They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote!
They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote! Vix1
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8:45am Thu 7 Feb 13

chapelsaint says...

Vix1 wrote:
They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote!
I (unfortunately) do live in Eastleigh area but seem to have a limited choice of who to vote for. The LDs certainly do have a record of electing a proven liar. The Tories appear to have a non starter who's only claim to fame is that she "handbagged" Blair. The Labour lot last time out were not interested enough to even put a single leaflet through the letter box. UKIP have not come up with anyhing locally (as of yet) Confused?-you bet!
[quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote![/p][/quote]I (unfortunately) do live in Eastleigh area but seem to have a limited choice of who to vote for. The LDs certainly do have a record of electing a proven liar. The Tories appear to have a non starter who's only claim to fame is that she "handbagged" Blair. The Labour lot last time out were not interested enough to even put a single leaflet through the letter box. UKIP have not come up with anyhing locally (as of yet) Confused?-you bet! chapelsaint
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10:18am Thu 7 Feb 13

one in a million says...

I live in Eastleigh and will spoil my paper, the lib dems have a monopoly on power and influence in Eastleigh and I can't see that changing with voter apathy and the usual stock response from Eastleigh voters that the lib dems have done a lot for the locality (seeing the borough being turned into a business and bulldozing the countryside to accomodate the economic migrants)
I live in Eastleigh and will spoil my paper, the lib dems have a monopoly on power and influence in Eastleigh and I can't see that changing with voter apathy and the usual stock response from Eastleigh voters that the lib dems have done a lot for the locality (seeing the borough being turned into a business and bulldozing the countryside to accomodate the economic migrants) one in a million
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11:23am Thu 7 Feb 13

ohec says...

All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.
All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right. ohec
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11:54am Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get.
ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get. southy
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12:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13

userds5050 says...

"Politics has sunk to an all time low" but voting should be compulsory. "Lib dems have too much influence and are destroying the countryside to accomodate migrants" so I'll spoil my ballot. Dear o dear.
"Politics has sunk to an all time low" but voting should be compulsory. "Lib dems have too much influence and are destroying the countryside to accomodate migrants" so I'll spoil my ballot. Dear o dear. userds5050
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12:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get.
.. and your implication is?

It's all perfectly proper - at least 17 days ahead is the requirement. Yes, the notice for local by-elections is longer. So what?

Do you mean to say TUSC is not ready?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get.[/p][/quote].. and your implication is? It's all perfectly proper - at least 17 days ahead is the requirement. Yes, the notice for local by-elections is longer. So what? Do you mean to say TUSC is not ready? freefinker
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12:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here. southy
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12:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13

waltons11 says...

ohec wrote:
All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.
You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse.
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.[/p][/quote]You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse. waltons11
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12:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

waltons11 wrote:
ohec wrote:
All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.
You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse.
You would be better to get a Labour win in this by-election it will do this government the most damage
[quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.[/p][/quote]You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse.[/p][/quote]You would be better to get a Labour win in this by-election it will do this government the most damage southy
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12:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be? Stephen J
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12:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
.. it's not what the 'norm' is, it's what the law is. Nothing wrong with what they have done. Perfectly entitled to call for a quickie.

So, TUSC is not ready. Strange that, after all there was going to be a general election before the end of 2012, was there not? Surely you believed that and prepared, did you not? And this is only a mere by-election.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote].. it's not what the 'norm' is, it's what the law is. Nothing wrong with what they have done. Perfectly entitled to call for a quickie. So, TUSC is not ready. Strange that, after all there was going to be a general election before the end of 2012, was there not? Surely you believed that and prepared, did you not? And this is only a mere by-election. freefinker
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1:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?[/p][/quote]Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils. Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys. southy
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1:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Just been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate.
Just been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate. southy
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1:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Defend the NHS Public Meeting
Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 7.30pm St. James Matthews Building, 157-­187 Above Bar, Southampton SO14 7NN
Defend the NHS Public Meeting Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 7.30pm St. James Matthews Building, 157-­187 Above Bar, Southampton SO14 7NN southy
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1:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.
That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?[/p][/quote]Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils. Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.[/p][/quote]That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it? Stephen J
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2:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.
That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?
We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?[/p][/quote]Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils. Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.[/p][/quote]That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?[/p][/quote]We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so. We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen. A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour. Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness. And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out. southy
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2:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
At about nine thirty this morning the Speaker of the House invited the Liberal Chief Whip to make a statement about 'Moving the Writ' which nominated the date for the By Election which is prerogative of the party currently holding the seat. There is a time limit but no 'norm' which should help the pressure of paranoia currently building inside you. Full details can be found at www.parliament.uk
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]At about nine thirty this morning the Speaker of the House invited the Liberal Chief Whip to make a statement about 'Moving the Writ' which nominated the date for the By Election which is prerogative of the party currently holding the seat. There is a time limit but no 'norm' which should help the pressure of paranoia currently building inside you. Full details can be found at www.parliament.uk Torchie1
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2:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.
That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?
We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.
"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?[/p][/quote]Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils. Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.[/p][/quote]That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?[/p][/quote]We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so. We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen. A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour. Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness. And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.[/p][/quote]"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell. Stephen J
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Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.
You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?
Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.
That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?
We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.
"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell.
Please correct your self, I did not say "we will tell people to vote for them" now did I if your going to quote me please at lest get right.
I pointed out if they wanted a chance to get rid of this government, Then Labour is there best bet, as they will vote against this government in a vote of no confidence, where as the Torys and UKIP most deffently will not, and Lib/Dem more than likely will not, leaving only Labour who would.
UKIP as joined that political gravy train.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called. They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise. the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.[/p][/quote]You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?[/p][/quote]Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils. Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.[/p][/quote]That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?[/p][/quote]We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so. We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen. A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour. Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness. And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.[/p][/quote]"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell.[/p][/quote]Please correct your self, I did not say "we will tell people to vote for them" now did I if your going to quote me please at lest get right. I pointed out if they wanted a chance to get rid of this government, Then Labour is there best bet, as they will vote against this government in a vote of no confidence, where as the Torys and UKIP most deffently will not, and Lib/Dem more than likely will not, leaving only Labour who would. UKIP as joined that political gravy train. southy
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