Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg to start by-election race (From Daily Echo)

They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote!

Vix1 wrote:
They all make promises, none of them keep them and the country is going to rats!! Why bother to vote for these inbred morons?! Thankfully I don't live in Eastleigh so I won't have to vote!

I (unfortunately) do live in Eastleigh area but seem to have a limited choice of who to vote for. The LDs certainly do have a record of electing a proven liar. The Tories appear to have a non starter who's only claim to fame is that she "handbagged" Blair. The Labour lot last time out were not interested enough to even put a single leaflet through the letter box. UKIP have not come up with anyhing locally (as of yet) Confused?-you bet!

I live in Eastleigh and will spoil my paper, the lib dems have a monopoly on power and influence in Eastleigh and I can't see that changing with voter apathy and the usual stock response from Eastleigh voters that the lib dems have done a lot for the locality (seeing the borough being turned into a business and bulldozing the countryside to accomodate the economic migrants)

All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.

ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get.

"Politics has sunk to an all time low" but voting should be compulsory. "Lib dems have too much influence and are destroying the countryside to accomodate migrants" so I'll spoil my ballot. Dear o dear.

southy wrote:
ohec Ask your self this why have they called early, 3 weeks thats even a smaller amount of time that the local elections get.

.. and your implication is?

It's all perfectly proper - at least 17 days ahead is the requirement. Yes, the notice for local by-elections is longer. So what?

Do you mean to say TUSC is not ready?

The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

ohec wrote:
All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.

You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse.

waltons11 wrote:

ohec wrote:
All eyes are on Eastleigh but its anybody's guess who will win i find myself unable to vote for any of the three main parties so i will be voting U.K.I.P, most people are so disenchanted with politics as a whole because first and foremost all politicians butter their own bread first and any thought for their constituents goes out of the window, they have all proved beyond doubt that they are the biggest bunch of cheating / lying / thieves going and i wouldn't trust them to run a bath let alone our country. Politics in this country has sunk to an all time low and we need a complete rethink on how our country is governed with no outside influence either from unions or business, funding should come from the public purse with a much reduced house on a set wage, we need people that do the job out of conviction not for the money and the Lords should be scrapped altogether. Voting should be a legal requirement to avoid the silly turn out figures that now seem to be the norm then at least we would know that whoever is in power is there by right.

You are so right, I could not agree more, we need to have a total rethink and get some "new blood" in to try to change things before they get any worse.

You would be better to get a Labour win in this by-election it will do this government the most damage

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

.. it's not what the 'norm' is, it's what the law is. Nothing wrong with what they have done. Perfectly entitled to call for a quickie.

So, TUSC is not ready. Strange that, after all there was going to be a general election before the end of 2012, was there not? Surely you believed that and prepared, did you not? And this is only a mere by-election.

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.

Just been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate.

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Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 7.30pm St. James Matthews Building, 157-­187 Above Bar, Southampton SO14 7NN

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.

That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.

That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?

We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

At about nine thirty this morning the Speaker of the House invited the Liberal Chief Whip to make a statement about 'Moving the Writ' which nominated the date for the By Election which is prerogative of the party currently holding the seat. There is a time limit but no 'norm' which should help the pressure of paranoia currently building inside you. Full details can be found at www.parliament.uk

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.

That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?

We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.

"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell.

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:

Stephen J wrote:

southy wrote:
The norm is 6 weeks Free for a Parimentry Election from the date it is called, and normally a week go's by before a date is called.
They are pushing this though very fast, it will not give a chance to the smaller partys to get organise.
the government is scared and scared big time. They know what happening in Greece they do not want it happening here.

You have a real dilemma here, don't you? You can either fully support Labour who might actually have a hope of winning, yes winning, if the UKIP vote takes off. Or, you could decide to stand against Labour, thereby doing your very best to ensure there's a Tory or LibDem victory. Which is it to be?

Calling it early they are not going to be able to stand, so it would be a support to the lesser of the evils.
Calling it early would even scupper UKIP chances of taking votes away from the Torys.

That doesn't sound like revolutionary, anti-capitalist, socialist, anti-cuts action to me. Instead, you're saying people should vote for (in your words) a pro-austerity, capitalist, right-wing party. You should be out there campaigning for what you believe in. But then, the more I look into it, despite the TUSC's heroic rhetoric, it's more about tacit support for Labour than reacting against it. Which is exactly how the union bureacracy wants it, isn't it?

We don't support Labour, but there still remains one or two left wing Labour who are willing to support left wing policy, so there is no point in taking votes away from them if they are going to support left wing policy, it also helps at a later date for them to switch over if they choose to do so.
We don't have the people spare really to be able to stand in this by-election that would be local to the area, our members are out and about with the County election on May the 2nd, we had not planed for this by-election to happen.
A number of Unions are with drawing there support to Labour and are switching over, but the 2 biggest Unions Unite and Unison are keeping there main support to Labour, even low branches of Unision up north have all ready stop there support to Labour.
Its not clear cut as you might think and there is alot of tacittal going on, unlike any right wing we do not nore do we have or want support from big buseness.
And big business have got all the right wing partys right where they want them, at the moment they can not lose which ever main party is power they will gain and the people will lose out.

"We don't support Labour, but we tell people to vote for them." There we have it. TUSC strategy in a nutshell.

Please correct your self, I did not say "we will tell people to vote for them" now did I if your going to quote me please at lest get right.
I pointed out if they wanted a chance to get rid of this government, Then Labour is there best bet, as they will vote against this government in a vote of no confidence, where as the Torys and UKIP most deffently will not, and Lib/Dem more than likely will not, leaving only Labour who would.
UKIP as joined that political gravy train.