Clegg's appeal to Eastleigh voters over Huhne

Daily Echo: Clegg's appeal to Eastleigh voters over Huhne Clegg's appeal to Eastleigh voters over Huhne

Nick Clegg today appealed to voters in Eastleigh not to exact retribution on the Liberal Democrats for Chris Huhne's conduct.

Lib Dem chief whip Alistair Carmichael will today move the writ, formally triggering the by-election in the Hampshire constituency following Huhne's decision to quit in the wake of his conviction for dodging speeding points.

Mr Clegg said that the former cabinet minister would at some stage have to explain himself to his erstwhile constituents.

But speaking at the Institute for Government in London, the Lib Dem leader urged people not to take revenge on his party.

''What has happened has happened with Chris Huhne and his guilty plea on Monday morning,'' he said.

''I think the choice for the people of Eastleigh in the by-election is what kind of an MP do they want to have now.

''I hope that it will be on that basis rather than in a mood or spirit of retribution that the debate will be conducted in Eastleigh.''

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12:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Yorkyboy22 says...

But what about YOUR conduct Nick?

Will the next LibDum also be a liar??

Can't wait for the Tory enablers to be wiped out in 2015!!
But what about YOUR conduct Nick? Will the next LibDum also be a liar?? Can't wait for the Tory enablers to be wiped out in 2015!! Yorkyboy22

12:30pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Phil76 says...

Hobson's choice for Clegg - does he want the by election to be about Huhne and the ticket kufuffle or about his and his party's performance whilst in coalition?

Feels like a loss either way, just a question of which is better for him personally. If I were him, I'd plump for a loss due to Huhne...
Hobson's choice for Clegg - does he want the by election to be about Huhne and the ticket kufuffle or about his and his party's performance whilst in coalition? Feels like a loss either way, just a question of which is better for him personally. If I were him, I'd plump for a loss due to Huhne... Phil76

12:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

This is going to be no ordinary by-election campaign since it will definitely result in a political upset: one of the governing coalition parties is guaranteed to lose.
This is going to be no ordinary by-election campaign since it will definitely result in a political upset: one of the governing coalition parties is guaranteed to lose. Stephen J

12:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Ted Rogers says...

I think the Lib Dem loss will be down to more than the conduct of just one man...
Amateur positioning yet again by Clegg.
I think the Lib Dem loss will be down to more than the conduct of just one man... Amateur positioning yet again by Clegg. Ted Rogers

12:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13

derek james says...

he bought a £600 ipad on expenses just before he quit
he bought a £600 ipad on expenses just before he quit derek james

12:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Mr E says...

Would you buy a used car off that man ?

I certainly wouldn't.
Would you buy a used car off that man ? I certainly wouldn't. Mr E

1:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13

every day is like sunday says...

Vote yellow, get blue!
Vote yellow, get blue! every day is like sunday

1:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent.

Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough.

I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced.
I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent. Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough. I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced. redsnapper

1:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate.

That will split the Right wing voters right up.
been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate. That will split the Right wing voters right up. southy

1:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

Mr E wrote:
Would you buy a used car off that man ?

I certainly wouldn't.
not at the speeds he has been driving it
[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: Would you buy a used car off that man ? I certainly wouldn't.[/p][/quote]not at the speeds he has been driving it good-gosh

1:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Defend the NHS Public Meeting
Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 7.30pm St. James Matthews Building, 157-­187 Above Bar, Southampton SO14 7NN
Defend the NHS Public Meeting Wednesday 20th Feb 2013, 7.30pm St. James Matthews Building, 157-­187 Above Bar, Southampton SO14 7NN southy

1:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called.

Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote.
If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money.
The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called. Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote. If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money. southy

1:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13

one in a million says...

I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career. one in a million

2:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train southy

2:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13

HillsidePaul says...

southy wrote:
been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate.

That will split the Right wing voters right up.
I've always been suspicious of single issue "political" party's however well intentioned the cause, because they are always vulnerable to being taken over by people with other agendas.

Now that Southy has more or less admitted that Tusc will not have time to get their act together he has suddenly started promoting the National Health Action Party.

If I were them I would look up the words Trotskyist and entryism.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: been informed that The National Health Action party are putting up a candidate. That will split the Right wing voters right up.[/p][/quote]I've always been suspicious of single issue "political" party's however well intentioned the cause, because they are always vulnerable to being taken over by people with other agendas. Now that Southy has more or less admitted that Tusc will not have time to get their act together he has suddenly started promoting the National Health Action Party. If I were them I would look up the words Trotskyist and entryism. HillsidePaul

2:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13

MBHants says...

southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now.

Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite"

3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now. Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite" 3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion. MBHants

2:22pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called.

Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote.
If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money.
.. it's not what the 'norm' is, it's what the law is. Nothing wrong with what they have done. Perfectly entitled to call for a quickie.

So, TUSC is not ready. Strange that, after all there was going to be a general election before the end of 2012, was there not? Surely you believed that and prepared, did you not? And this is only a mere by-election.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called. Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote. If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money.[/p][/quote].. it's not what the 'norm' is, it's what the law is. Nothing wrong with what they have done. Perfectly entitled to call for a quickie. So, TUSC is not ready. Strange that, after all there was going to be a general election before the end of 2012, was there not? Surely you believed that and prepared, did you not? And this is only a mere by-election. freefinker

2:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright. Stephen J

2:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

"Southy, for God's sake, it's perfectly simple. All you've got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to give the people of Eastleigh a left-wing candidate! It's happening, Southy! Something's actually happening, Southy! Can't you understand?! Ohhh!"
"Southy, for God's sake, it's perfectly simple. All you've got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to give the people of Eastleigh a left-wing candidate! It's happening, Southy! Something's actually happening, Southy! Can't you understand?! Ohhh!" Stephen J

2:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to southy

2:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Headline:- Clegg's appeal to Eastleigh voters over Huhne .....
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Thats just it ....... Cleggs party does not have any appeal anymore.
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The Lib Dems voters were sold down the river by the bright lights of Westminster shining in Cleggs eyes . ....... His one and only chance to ever be in a position of authority and he sold his mother for it.
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Its over for you Mr Clegg ...... as regards your party ....... Well its on the brink of oblivion.
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Vote Yellow .. Get ... Blue. At least the Lib Dem voters can now see what they will get for the next two years.
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As regards the Tories ...... Well even their own party cant stand Dodgy Dave and realise that he and his cronies are not up to it.
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Could end up as an extremely low turnout with perhaps a surprise winner
Headline:- Clegg's appeal to Eastleigh voters over Huhne ..... . Thats just it ....... Cleggs party does not have any appeal anymore. . The Lib Dems voters were sold down the river by the bright lights of Westminster shining in Cleggs eyes . ....... His one and only chance to ever be in a position of authority and he sold his mother for it. . Its over for you Mr Clegg ...... as regards your party ....... Well its on the brink of oblivion. . Vote Yellow .. Get ... Blue. At least the Lib Dem voters can now see what they will get for the next two years. . As regards the Tories ...... Well even their own party cant stand Dodgy Dave and realise that he and his cronies are not up to it. . Could end up as an extremely low turnout with perhaps a surprise winner Lone Ranger.

2:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
.. excuses, excuses and more excuses.

Come on, it's your duty to offer the electorate a proper left-wing alternative. Isn't that why you are in politics?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote].. excuses, excuses and more excuses. Come on, it's your duty to offer the electorate a proper left-wing alternative. Isn't that why you are in politics? freefinker

2:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

MBHants wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now.

Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite"

3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.
What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls.
also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day.
No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage.
[quote][p][bold]MBHants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now. Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite" 3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.[/p][/quote]What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls. also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day. No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage. southy

2:52pm Thu 7 Feb 13

userds5050 says...

redsnapper wrote:
I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent.

Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough.

I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced.
Remember his mother was involved too. I'm not buying this marital coersion line and I don't think a jury will either. Reading some of the emails she sent, she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted revenge without having to spend time in Holloway herself.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent. Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough. I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced.[/p][/quote]Remember his mother was involved too. I'm not buying this marital coersion line and I don't think a jury will either. Reading some of the emails she sent, she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted revenge without having to spend time in Holloway herself. userds5050

2:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something. Stephen J

2:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be southy

2:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
MBHants wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now.

Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite"

3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.
What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls.
also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day.
No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage.
.. excuses, excuses and more excuses.

The media spotlight of the most important and significant by-election this parliament, and TUSC chickens out. Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MBHants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now. Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite" 3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.[/p][/quote]What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls. also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day. No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage.[/p][/quote].. excuses, excuses and more excuses. The media spotlight of the most important and significant by-election this parliament, and TUSC chickens out. Pathetic. freefinker

3:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness. Stephen J

3:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13

MBHants says...

southy wrote:
MBHants wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now.

Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite"

3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.
What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls.
also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day.
No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage.
Those who want to vote should be registered already.
The government site on voting even advises to register for this very reason:
http://www.aboutmyvo
te.
co.uk/why_should_i_r
egister_to_
vot1/reasons_why_you
_should_regis.aspx

There are also likely to be reasons why 17 days is the minimum and the current party is well within all rules to call it for Feb 28

Granted, money could be saved by waiting until 2nd May but that would leave the constituency without a parliamentary representative for almost 1/4 of a year.

And yes, you will not get as much coverage as the big 3, because you are not as big or relevant as any of them. But by not standing any candidate you will get precisely zero coverage other than us babbling idiots on a provincial website's comment board.

It's not that hard to stand a candidate, even at short notice, so come on, give the people of Eastleigh at least one left wing "peoples" option to vote for...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MBHants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]Unlike the TUSC who are there looking to spread the gravy train around just one class of worker. Get with times and understand the world has changed, we are predominantly an information and knowledge based economy now. Your party, and what I think are your principals in no way reflect me, or anyone I know. You are living in as much of an echo chamber as the "far right Eton elite" 3 weeks isn't long, but if you were serious about raising the profile of the TUSC you'd manage to get a candidate in this election. An election that will be widely covered by the national media, who'll sell this as a mini-referendum on the current coalition and public opinion.[/p][/quote]What about those who wanted to vote but are not registered to vote, they will not be able to now, theres not enough time in clearing days from the time they registered to the day of the polls. also how much more money as it cost the tax payers for calling this early insted of waiting to 2nd May when they could of saved money, by having the county and the by-election all on the same day. No small party will get the same media coverage as the big 3, small partys will only get seconds of coverage while the big 3 will get minutes media coverage.[/p][/quote]Those who want to vote should be registered already. The government site on voting even advises to register for this very reason: http://www.aboutmyvo te. co.uk/why_should_i_r egister_to_ vot1/reasons_why_you _should_regis.aspx There are also likely to be reasons why 17 days is the minimum and the current party is well within all rules to call it for Feb 28 Granted, money could be saved by waiting until 2nd May but that would leave the constituency without a parliamentary representative for almost 1/4 of a year. And yes, you will not get as much coverage as the big 3, because you are not as big or relevant as any of them. But by not standing any candidate you will get precisely zero coverage other than us babbling idiots on a provincial website's comment board. It's not that hard to stand a candidate, even at short notice, so come on, give the people of Eastleigh at least one left wing "peoples" option to vote for... MBHants

3:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called.

Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote.
If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money.
There is no 'norm' but there is a statutory time limit. The Speaker of the House invited the Lib Dem Chief Whip to 'Move the writ' this morning and as the incumbent party the Lib -Dems have chosen the date which might not be convenient for you but that isn't a requirement. Given a year, you couldn't mobilise a candidate so stop complaining and work on the Parish Council level of politics that is familiar to you. Please feel free to check Hansard and the Parliamentary procedures on WWW.Parliament.UK.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The norm is for a Parimentry Election is 6 weeks, and normally a week go's by before that date is called. Not waiting for that week and calling it in 3 weeks, the main partys more so the ruling government are running scared, they are making this a quick and fast by-election, so that the smaller partys can not get organise, also it will stop any new registed people who have not registed to vote to be able to register to vote. If they had allowed for the normal amount of time to pass by this election would of happened in March final week to close to the local county elections, now would it not made sence to hold this by-election back till May 2nd and have on the same day as the county elections just to save public money.[/p][/quote]There is no 'norm' but there is a statutory time limit. The Speaker of the House invited the Lib Dem Chief Whip to 'Move the writ' this morning and as the incumbent party the Lib -Dems have chosen the date which might not be convenient for you but that isn't a requirement. Given a year, you couldn't mobilise a candidate so stop complaining and work on the Parish Council level of politics that is familiar to you. Please feel free to check Hansard and the Parliamentary procedures on WWW.Parliament.UK. Torchie1

3:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13

beiroot says...

The previous Eastleigh MP didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.Orange Juice maybe.
The previous Eastleigh MP didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.Orange Juice maybe. beiroot

3:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

userds5050 wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent.

Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough.

I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced.
Remember his mother was involved too. I'm not buying this marital coersion line and I don't think a jury will either. Reading some of the emails she sent, she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted revenge without having to spend time in Holloway herself.
Whatever but Huhne was driving and he has been found out lying through his teeth and spending thousands trying to evade justice.

But I agree there was a strong motive but who knows what goes behind closed doors, suffice to say that Huhnes reputation and character continues to plunge ever deeper into the brown stuff.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Huhne,s son having such a dishonorable wretch of a parent. Chris Huhne is an insult to all good parents everywhere, and a classic example of all those who feed at the Westminster trough. I hope the people of Eastleigh thoroughly punish the LibDums for inflicting such a liar on them, and choose wisely when the candidates are announced.[/p][/quote]Remember his mother was involved too. I'm not buying this marital coersion line and I don't think a jury will either. Reading some of the emails she sent, she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted revenge without having to spend time in Holloway herself.[/p][/quote]Whatever but Huhne was driving and he has been found out lying through his teeth and spending thousands trying to evade justice. But I agree there was a strong motive but who knows what goes behind closed doors, suffice to say that Huhnes reputation and character continues to plunge ever deeper into the brown stuff. redsnapper

4:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13

georgetheseventh says...

Who is Nick Clegg ??????????????
Who is Nick Clegg ?????????????? georgetheseventh

4:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea southy

4:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13

sparkster says...

exactly redsnapper, Huhne should have come clean to start with
exactly redsnapper, Huhne should have come clean to start with sparkster

4:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote]A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say. Stephen J

4:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
.. don't be so daft. He was going to be found guilty if he hadn't changed his plea.

Do you really mean to say that TUSC/SP didn't see that coming? If so your political naivety is of such huge proportions that you just can’t be trusted with power – a state of affairs the electorate already recognises.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote].. don't be so daft. He was going to be found guilty if he hadn't changed his plea. Do you really mean to say that TUSC/SP didn't see that coming? If so your political naivety is of such huge proportions that you just can’t be trusted with power – a state of affairs the electorate already recognises. freefinker

4:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.
would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did.

Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne.
The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote]A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.[/p][/quote]would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did. Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne. The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations. southy

4:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13

MBHants says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.
would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did.

Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne.
The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.
No, the TUSC can't because it doesn't have any real support...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote]A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.[/p][/quote]would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did. Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne. The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.[/p][/quote]No, the TUSC can't because it doesn't have any real support... MBHants

4:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.
would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did.

Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne.
The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.
Nonsense. The TUSC can call upon, among other things, RMT Branch and Regional Council Political Funds if it so wishes. And Huhne's admission of guilt was a possibility from the start.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote]A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.[/p][/quote]would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did. Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne. The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. The TUSC can call upon, among other things, RMT Branch and Regional Council Political Funds if it so wishes. And Huhne's admission of guilt was a possibility from the start. Stephen J

6:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13

userds5050 says...

beiroot wrote:
The previous Eastleigh MP didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.Orange Juice maybe.
Hey, don't speak about David Chidgey like that.
[quote][p][bold]beiroot[/bold] wrote: The previous Eastleigh MP didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.Orange Juice maybe.[/p][/quote]Hey, don't speak about David Chidgey like that. userds5050

7:24pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Paramjit Bahia says...

Dear Southy,

As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging.

Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain.

Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote.

My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive.

With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party?

Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away.

I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked.

I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate?

In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks.

So wait and see.
Dear Southy, As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging. Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain. Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote. My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive. With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party? Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away. I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked. I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate? In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks. So wait and see. Paramjit Bahia

10:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Dear Southy,

As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging.

Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain.

Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote.

My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive.

With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party?

Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away.

I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked.

I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate?

In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks.

So wait and see.
I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal?
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Dear Southy, As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging. Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain. Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote. My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive. With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party? Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away. I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked. I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate? In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks. So wait and see.[/p][/quote]I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal? Stephen J

11:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Stephen J wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Dear Southy,

As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging.

Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain.

Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote.

My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive.

With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party?

Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away.

I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked.

I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate?

In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks.

So wait and see.
I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal?
I feel Eastleigh will remain Lib Dem. I am likely wrong, but I don't see Labour or Cons doing any good.

The only good thing that can come of this is that they vote UKIP even if it is just to send a message.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Dear Southy, As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging. Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain. Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote. My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive. With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party? Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away. I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked. I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate? In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks. So wait and see.[/p][/quote]I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal?[/p][/quote]I feel Eastleigh will remain Lib Dem. I am likely wrong, but I don't see Labour or Cons doing any good. The only good thing that can come of this is that they vote UKIP even if it is just to send a message. IronLady2010

12:03am Fri 8 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

The latest Eastleigh figures (leaked by the Guardian) look like this: CON 34%(-5), LAB 19%(+9), LDEM 31%(-16), UKIP 13%(+9).
The latest Eastleigh figures (leaked by the Guardian) look like this: CON 34%(-5), LAB 19%(+9), LDEM 31%(-16), UKIP 13%(+9). Stephen J

2:33am Fri 8 Feb 13

stay local says...

Southy if you google TUSC the higher rated hit is the Totally Unbelievable Speaking Club, which says a lot about you! If you dig further you can find the TUSC political page there is a direct link so you can apply to be a candidate in a parliamentary election. Moreover, the site talks about donations "TUSC has had hundreds of declarations of support." As someone who purports to have great support, talks of the coming change to a socialist society, surely this is the time to make your statement and stand for the community and the country, you bemoan the fact the there is no left wing alternative to everyone else who is in your opinion right wing, but are unwilling to leave the council house you purchased to do any thing about it.
Southy if you google TUSC the higher rated hit is the Totally Unbelievable Speaking Club, which says a lot about you! If you dig further you can find the TUSC political page there is a direct link so you can apply to be a candidate in a parliamentary election. Moreover, the site talks about donations "TUSC has had hundreds of declarations of support." As someone who purports to have great support, talks of the coming change to a socialist society, surely this is the time to make your statement and stand for the community and the country, you bemoan the fact the there is no left wing alternative to everyone else who is in your opinion right wing, but are unwilling to leave the council house you purchased to do any thing about it. stay local

9:10am Fri 8 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Dear Southy,

As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging.

Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain.

Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote.

My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive.

With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party?

Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away.

I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked.

I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate?

In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks.

So wait and see.
I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal?
One thing for sure Stephen j We do not support Labour we have giving up on them, But I was pointing out if the people of Eastleigh want a chance to get rid of this government early then out of the section at the time would be Labour as they would be the only deffently to vote against the government in a vote of no confidence, UKIP will vote with the government because they are on the same gravy train as the Torys.

Q Paramjit what is the time period that a party must register there candidate to stand in a parimenty election, as I have noticed none have formally sected there candidate yet.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Dear Southy, As somebody who sympathise with TUSC and as a socialist who is not prejudiced against Trotskyites, my most humble request to you will be to stop digging. Fact the by-election has been called as required under the law. If the law has not been broken then nobody can complain. Yes I admire small groups on the left calling themselves ‘Parties’. Intelligent people do not compete with pu55y cats in dog fight. In the game of electoral politics there is no sympathy for size. Parties have to work for every single vote. My views about your Socialist Party’s campaigning methods are well known to you and your party, as I am not your member I can’t complain. Your enthusiasm is admirable, BUT work not very productive. With Huhne affair going on it was certain for a long time, that even without Lib-Dem doing dirty on their voters by joining the Coalition, they would have problems in parliamentary elections. If even ordinary individual like I could see that why couldn’t your Party? Whether we support them or not others in political game were well prepared, and were doing low key campaigning. That is why as soon as Huhne pleaded guilty Tories were off the mark straight away. I suspect LibDem have called this by-election because they know when even more austerity measures are introduced in next Osborne budget, to protect their ministerial limos, perks and salaries they will have to support those unpopular measures in parliament, which will make them even more disliked. I have the feeling LibDem vote will collapse. Conservative votes will get shared with UKIP, who are likely to do well. So with low turn out with right kind of candidate NuLabour could have a reasonable chance. But who is their candidate? In my view former Southampton and Hampshire councillor Alan Lloyd could be NuLbour’s best candidate. He is experienced, has exceptionally good reputation for hard work and helping the people and is one of those who still believe in Labour values. On top of that at one time he contested Eastleigh as Labour candidate so he won’t be one of Milliband’s unknown side kicks. So wait and see.[/p][/quote]I agree with your suggestion that Labour could do well in Eastleigh, even win, given a UKIP surge. But I still can't separate you from Southy. Both of you seem to prefer the prospect of a New/One Nation Labour win in the constituency to looking for serious Socialist inroads in wards like Eastleigh South and Bishopstoke. No disprespect to your friend Alan Lloyd, but is the current position of the Left simply to hope for for the best of a bad deal?[/p][/quote]One thing for sure Stephen j We do not support Labour we have giving up on them, But I was pointing out if the people of Eastleigh want a chance to get rid of this government early then out of the section at the time would be Labour as they would be the only deffently to vote against the government in a vote of no confidence, UKIP will vote with the government because they are on the same gravy train as the Torys. Q Paramjit what is the time period that a party must register there candidate to stand in a parimenty election, as I have noticed none have formally sected there candidate yet. southy

9:16am Fri 8 Feb 13

southy says...

stay local wrote:
Southy if you google TUSC the higher rated hit is the Totally Unbelievable Speaking Club, which says a lot about you! If you dig further you can find the TUSC political page there is a direct link so you can apply to be a candidate in a parliamentary election. Moreover, the site talks about donations "TUSC has had hundreds of declarations of support." As someone who purports to have great support, talks of the coming change to a socialist society, surely this is the time to make your statement and stand for the community and the country, you bemoan the fact the there is no left wing alternative to everyone else who is in your opinion right wing, but are unwilling to leave the council house you purchased to do any thing about it.
Try reading all the way though, the TUSC is tied up with the county elections though out the UK and thats what those Donations and support are for.
You do not notice things much do you, what was I doing in the last 2 local elections, Eastliegh is not my area, that is covered by another branch in Hampshire.
[quote][p][bold]stay local[/bold] wrote: Southy if you google TUSC the higher rated hit is the Totally Unbelievable Speaking Club, which says a lot about you! If you dig further you can find the TUSC political page there is a direct link so you can apply to be a candidate in a parliamentary election. Moreover, the site talks about donations "TUSC has had hundreds of declarations of support." As someone who purports to have great support, talks of the coming change to a socialist society, surely this is the time to make your statement and stand for the community and the country, you bemoan the fact the there is no left wing alternative to everyone else who is in your opinion right wing, but are unwilling to leave the council house you purchased to do any thing about it.[/p][/quote]Try reading all the way though, the TUSC is tied up with the county elections though out the UK and thats what those Donations and support are for. You do not notice things much do you, what was I doing in the last 2 local elections, Eastliegh is not my area, that is covered by another branch in Hampshire. southy

9:39am Fri 8 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
one in a million wrote:
I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.
well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train
And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.
As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils.
I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to
The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.
And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be
Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.
You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea
A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.
would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did.

Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne.
The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.
Nonsense. The TUSC can call upon, among other things, RMT Branch and Regional Council Political Funds if it so wishes. And Huhne's admission of guilt was a possibility from the start.
No Huhne's change his plea from Not Guilty to Guilty this was because he was not going to get the backing that he needed from his ex-wife.
the RMT as often pass on donations from its members to the TUSC, but our bulk comes from the public, (because we are a party of the people, that is run by the people, for the people). To ask the RMT for donations it will mean asking the local branch for a meeting, that branch to call on its members to have this meeting then arrange for donation collettion, the local branch as not long given towards the County Elections.
We are not like UKIP that can get £1,000's from one business.
Some thing like parimentry election will cost £500 just for the deposit, then the printing on top of that, will go into the the £1,000's (a council ward would cost max £2000).
Not as easy as you think
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: I'd like an MP who puts their electorate first not his or her career.[/p][/quote]well your not going to get that from any type of right wing group, they are only there for the gravy train[/p][/quote]And yet all you can do is come up with excuses as to why your lot can't possibly stand. Instead, you encourage people to vote for the "right-wing, capitalist" Labour party. The true colours of the TUSC shine bright.[/p][/quote]As if the people had a real choice, and Labour is only the lesser of the evils. I not giving you any excuses just what is, at the moment the TUSC have put all there efforts into breaking that 20% that the media requires to get equal media coverage as the big 3 in the county elections, this is some thing that UKIP and other small partys have not tried nor can they, they don't have the membership to be able to, and is taking up a lot of resources to be able to[/p][/quote]The difference is that UKIP will be putting up a candidate, and you won't. It's called action. Actually doing something.[/p][/quote]And the bigger difference is that the TUSC will be putting up 20% in the county elections, UKIP will not be[/p][/quote]Big deal. And UKIP clearly saw this election coming. You say you didn't. So much for your political awareness.[/p][/quote]You mean that UKIP knew that Huhne would be changing his plea off not guilty to a guilty plea[/p][/quote]A sitting MP goes to court on a charge of perverting the course of justice. There can be only two outcomes, one of which will mean a by-election. It's about being in a position to respond to things as they happen. You were clearly unprepared, or so you say.[/p][/quote]would be more of a case when, i would off though he would hang out long as possable, just like exTory MP Archer did. Good thing about UKIP is that they can call on big and small business to finance any electoral campaigne. The TUSC can't because it is made up from ordinary people, and relys on public donations.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. The TUSC can call upon, among other things, RMT Branch and Regional Council Political Funds if it so wishes. And Huhne's admission of guilt was a possibility from the start.[/p][/quote]No Huhne's change his plea from Not Guilty to Guilty this was because he was not going to get the backing that he needed from his ex-wife. the RMT as often pass on donations from its members to the TUSC, but our bulk comes from the public, (because we are a party of the people, that is run by the people, for the people). To ask the RMT for donations it will mean asking the local branch for a meeting, that branch to call on its members to have this meeting then arrange for donation collettion, the local branch as not long given towards the County Elections. We are not like UKIP that can get £1,000's from one business. Some thing like parimentry election will cost £500 just for the deposit, then the printing on top of that, will go into the the £1,000's (a council ward would cost max £2000). Not as easy as you think southy

6:43pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Dan Soton says...

Harry Redknapp has pleaded guilty to Chris Huhne's speeding offence. He said he was desperate for three points
Harry Redknapp has pleaded guilty to Chris Huhne's speeding offence. He said he was desperate for three points Dan Soton

11:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13

ballylickybanshee says...

I hope that all those people in Eastleigh borough who have become disillusioned with the Lib Dem Eastleigh council, spending our money as if it was going out of fashion, or putting houses where they shouldn't, will now vote for an alternative party. This will show Keith House and his cronies that the people of Eastleigh borough will not put up with the Lib Dems either in the local council or as their MP.
I hope that all those people in Eastleigh borough who have become disillusioned with the Lib Dem Eastleigh council, spending our money as if it was going out of fashion, or putting houses where they shouldn't, will now vote for an alternative party. This will show Keith House and his cronies that the people of Eastleigh borough will not put up with the Lib Dems either in the local council or as their MP. ballylickybanshee

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