Protest against plans to expand city school

Protest against plans to expand city school

Protest against plans to expand city school

First published in News

PROTESTERS came out in force against plans to expand a city secondary school.

Residents in Cheriton Road and Links Road, in Fulflood, Winchester, gathered to vent their concerns over the county council’s plan to build a 420-place primary school, and 55-place nursery at The Westgate School.

The council wants to expand the school — also in Cheriton Road — to ease pressure on school places in the city, and will decide a planning application in March.

But residents say they are worried about a variety of issues including the environment, road safety, and the impact on the character of the area.

Jo D’Andrea, 48, a company director of Links Road, said: “There’s no pavement here and we cannot have yellow lines because Links Road is unadopted.

“We have been affected for years by the parking at Western Primary School, and this road gets completely full at picking-up time. There’s nowhere for these extra vehicles to go.

“This is not expanding the school as much as putting another school in where we already have The Westgate and Western.

“The road is dangerous enough as it is, and we have tried to get something done before to calm the traffic, so to add to it is ridiculous.”

Tim Peshall, 58, of nearby Walnut Grove, added: “Rotherly Nursery brings in a huge amount of vehicles already, and I expect that will triple when this extension is built.”

Chris Blackman, 62, of Cheriton Road, said the development would damage the wildlife and environment in Fulflood.

He said: “The character of the Fulflood area needs to be preserved and we have a design statement produced in 2007/2008 that is all about preserving our trees, flora and fauna because it’s a desirable area to live. But it doesn’t seem to be considered here.

“This is a Winchester-wide issue because if the proposal goes ahead, then catchment areas of all Winchester schools will be affected which will increase journey times, inevitably car journeys. It will mean more pollution across the city.”

Ward councillor Robert Hutchison said the extra school places should have been spread around the city, rather than concentrated at The Westgate.

He said: “I just think the county council has been very complacent when thinking about all the traffic and congestion.

“With Western, The Westgate and the new school we will have 2,000 staff and pupils together effectively on one campus.

“The council has got to look at safety issues in Cheriton Road and the existing transport statement in the application is inadequate.”

Cllr Roy Perry, the county council’s executive member for children’s services, said the school would stagger start and end times for pupils in both schools to make it easier for parents to drop-off and pick up, and that a sustainable travel plan had been drawn up.

Cllr Perry added: “The school will keep the travel plan under review once the primary school is opened so that it can be further developed if necessary.

“The car park planned will be gated and controlled for use only by staff predominantly at the start and end of the school day, and for use by the Badminton centre out of school hours.

“Other options were considered but this one is the most suitable as it keeps pedestrian and vehicle access to this part of the site separate.”

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8:44am Tue 12 Feb 13

loosehead says...

So the residents don't want children to have an education then?
this must be the height of NIMBYISM?
So the residents don't want children to have an education then? this must be the height of NIMBYISM? loosehead
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9:34am Tue 12 Feb 13

Independent Thought says...

Scary!
Scary! Independent Thought
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9:54am Tue 12 Feb 13

St.Winch70 says...

loosehead wrote:
So the residents don't want children to have an education then?
this must be the height of NIMBYISM?
A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure.
No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you)
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So the residents don't want children to have an education then? this must be the height of NIMBYISM?[/p][/quote]A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure. No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you) St.Winch70
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10:50am Tue 12 Feb 13

loosehead says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So the residents don't want children to have an education then?
this must be the height of NIMBYISM?
A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure.
No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you)
So it's okay in another area but not ours so exactly what do they call people who talk like that?
That's it! NIMBY's.
yes your correct I don't know the area & I don't know you but to come on here slating me show's me exactly what type of person you are.
are they knocking down houses to expand this school?
from what I've read in the above article the problem is with parents driving cars to drop of the children.
this is similar to Holy Family school in Southampton.
parents in very close proximity would/will drive their children to school rather than walk up the road.
thus blocking the road ( double parking) bringing to the scrapping of a bus route( could take an hour to clear traffic so the bus could move).
surely the way to stop this isn't stopping the expansion but making the roads around the area residents parking only?
put on full time traffic wardens & any vehicle even just dropping off kids gets a ticket do you think they'll be so keen to drive short distances then?
I've just had a brand new school built across the road from me on playing fields (5 Acres Lordshill) we made it crystal clear we would object if car parking looked at being as problem but the school made it clear they would not accept problems like that.
maybe a free mini bus service could be provided for the kids?
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So the residents don't want children to have an education then? this must be the height of NIMBYISM?[/p][/quote]A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure. No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you)[/p][/quote]So it's okay in another area but not ours so exactly what do they call people who talk like that? That's it! NIMBY's. yes your correct I don't know the area & I don't know you but to come on here slating me show's me exactly what type of person you are. are they knocking down houses to expand this school? from what I've read in the above article the problem is with parents driving cars to drop of the children. this is similar to Holy Family school in Southampton. parents in very close proximity would/will drive their children to school rather than walk up the road. thus blocking the road ( double parking) bringing to the scrapping of a bus route( could take an hour to clear traffic so the bus could move). surely the way to stop this isn't stopping the expansion but making the roads around the area residents parking only? put on full time traffic wardens & any vehicle even just dropping off kids gets a ticket do you think they'll be so keen to drive short distances then? I've just had a brand new school built across the road from me on playing fields (5 Acres Lordshill) we made it crystal clear we would object if car parking looked at being as problem but the school made it clear they would not accept problems like that. maybe a free mini bus service could be provided for the kids? loosehead
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11:04am Tue 12 Feb 13

St.Winch70 says...

loosehead wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
loosehead wrote: So the residents don't want children to have an education then? this must be the height of NIMBYISM?
A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure. No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you)
So it's okay in another area but not ours so exactly what do they call people who talk like that? That's it! NIMBY's. yes your correct I don't know the area & I don't know you but to come on here slating me show's me exactly what type of person you are. are they knocking down houses to expand this school? from what I've read in the above article the problem is with parents driving cars to drop of the children. this is similar to Holy Family school in Southampton. parents in very close proximity would/will drive their children to school rather than walk up the road. thus blocking the road ( double parking) bringing to the scrapping of a bus route( could take an hour to clear traffic so the bus could move). surely the way to stop this isn't stopping the expansion but making the roads around the area residents parking only? put on full time traffic wardens & any vehicle even just dropping off kids gets a ticket do you think they'll be so keen to drive short distances then? I've just had a brand new school built across the road from me on playing fields (5 Acres Lordshill) we made it crystal clear we would object if car parking looked at being as problem but the school made it clear they would not accept problems like that. maybe a free mini bus service could be provided for the kids?
Populistic term NIMBY - usually levelled by the ignorant, at people who care for their immediate environment and object to ill thought out schemes by remote councillors who do not consider it's impact.
If you care to add to your knowledge of this particular scheme you would appreciate that the expansion in this one site is dis-proportionate considering the need for school places in the wider winchester catchment area. So your bright and wonderful idea regarding local children is a bit skewed.

Ever heard of the term 'comparing apples with apples' ?

If you make ignorant statements, I'll judge you as ignorant.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So the residents don't want children to have an education then? this must be the height of NIMBYISM?[/p][/quote]A lazy, simplistic and moronic comment. Made without any knowledge of the area and surrounding infrastructure. No-one is denying children an education (you're a perfect example of the result of that) there's far better options to increase school places across the wider Winchester area if the county council would exercise a creative and logical thought process. (probably lost on you)[/p][/quote]So it's okay in another area but not ours so exactly what do they call people who talk like that? That's it! NIMBY's. yes your correct I don't know the area & I don't know you but to come on here slating me show's me exactly what type of person you are. are they knocking down houses to expand this school? from what I've read in the above article the problem is with parents driving cars to drop of the children. this is similar to Holy Family school in Southampton. parents in very close proximity would/will drive their children to school rather than walk up the road. thus blocking the road ( double parking) bringing to the scrapping of a bus route( could take an hour to clear traffic so the bus could move). surely the way to stop this isn't stopping the expansion but making the roads around the area residents parking only? put on full time traffic wardens & any vehicle even just dropping off kids gets a ticket do you think they'll be so keen to drive short distances then? I've just had a brand new school built across the road from me on playing fields (5 Acres Lordshill) we made it crystal clear we would object if car parking looked at being as problem but the school made it clear they would not accept problems like that. maybe a free mini bus service could be provided for the kids?[/p][/quote]Populistic term NIMBY - usually levelled by the ignorant, at people who care for their immediate environment and object to ill thought out schemes by remote councillors who do not consider it's impact. If you care to add to your knowledge of this particular scheme you would appreciate that the expansion in this one site is dis-proportionate considering the need for school places in the wider winchester catchment area. So your bright and wonderful idea regarding local children is a bit skewed. Ever heard of the term 'comparing apples with apples' ? If you make ignorant statements, I'll judge you as ignorant. St.Winch70
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11:35am Tue 12 Feb 13

one in a million says...

Buzzword bingo at its finest.
Buzzword bingo at its finest. one in a million
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12:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

loosehead says...

Okay through my years playing Rugby I realise that Winchester is an alien place to me so instead of trying to put forward alternatives to just saying no I'll leave you all to decide on your childrens futures Goodbye
Okay through my years playing Rugby I realise that Winchester is an alien place to me so instead of trying to put forward alternatives to just saying no I'll leave you all to decide on your childrens futures Goodbye loosehead
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