Tory candidate claims it is "impossible" to find right education for son in state system

Maria Hutchings in Eastleigh with Prime Minister David Cameron.

Maria Hutchings in Eastleigh with Prime Minister David Cameron.

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ONE of Eastleigh’s by-election hopefuls has sparked controversy after appearing to suggest state education was not good enough for her son.

Conservative candidate Maria Hutchings is reported as saying her 12-year-old wants to be cardio-respiratory surgeon, but that finding the right kind of education was “impossible in the state system”.

Her comments come despite two Eastleigh schools recently receiving glowing reports from Ofsted inspectors.

Thornden School has been ranked one of the top performing schools in the country and Wildern was rated as “outstanding” last year.

But while fighting to win the vacant seat of disgraced former Cabinet minister Chris Huhe, she is reported as saying: “William is very gifted which gives us another interesting challenge in finding the right sort of education for him – impossible in the state system. He wants to be a cardio-respiratory surgeon.”

Eastleigh Borough Council’s council leader, Lib Dem Keith House, has labeled the comments an “insult” to teachers.

He added: “Although it’s down to every parent to choose the right school for their child, it’s simply not true to say that the education in Eastleigh is not good enough for our children.

“Maria’s claim that it’s ‘impossible’ to get a good state education in Eastleigh is an insult to the teachers who work hard to give our children the best start, and to the parents who are glad to have such good schools that are part of the local community.”

A Conservative spokesman said: “Maria Hutchings wants all children to get the best possible education - that's why she's backing Michael Gove's reforms to bring back rigour to the state education system after 13 years of Labour. Maria has campaigned tirelessly to help parents of children with special educational needs get the best education for them.”

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4:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron.
It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron. SotonGreen
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5:02pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

SotonGreen wrote:
It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron.
MPs wealth has nothing to do with running the country. The Union leaders are all on £120K plus a year and have millionaire pensions but that does not stop the muppet membership funding theirlavish lifestyles...
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron.[/p][/quote]MPs wealth has nothing to do with running the country. The Union leaders are all on £120K plus a year and have millionaire pensions but that does not stop the muppet membership funding theirlavish lifestyles... MGRA
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5:05pm Sat 16 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long jonnyx
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5:06pm Sat 16 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

"her 12-year-old wants to be cardio-respiratory surgeon"

of course he does - it's every schoolboy's dream.
"her 12-year-old wants to be cardio-respiratory surgeon" of course he does - it's every schoolboy's dream. jonnyx
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5:09pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Nothing wrong with wanting the very best for your children, she sounds like a decent mother to me.
Nothing wrong with wanting the very best for your children, she sounds like a decent mother to me. IronLady2010
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5:10pm Sat 16 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

context, dear lady, context. (it's everything in these situations).
context, dear lady, context. (it's everything in these situations). jonnyx
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5:19pm Sat 16 Feb 13

HillsidePaul says...

Happy to attack Tony Blair (as a "non political" parent) about more state funded provision for one of her sons. Now thinks state schools are beneath her "gifted" son.

Hypocritical snob.
Happy to attack Tony Blair (as a "non political" parent) about more state funded provision for one of her sons. Now thinks state schools are beneath her "gifted" son. Hypocritical snob. HillsidePaul
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5:29pm Sat 16 Feb 13

TR2708 says...

would be a embarrassment for Eastleigh if she becomes MP she looks like a cross between a drag queen and a umpa lumpa and she has fascist views clearly reflected by her homophobia. I for one think she needs a good slap!
would be a embarrassment for Eastleigh if she becomes MP she looks like a cross between a drag queen and a umpa lumpa and she has fascist views clearly reflected by her homophobia. I for one think she needs a good slap! TR2708
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5:33pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cgt says...

What an appalling insult to schools in the Eastleigh area and the teachers who work in them! Apparently this woman lives in the area and therefore really should know better.
What an appalling insult to schools in the Eastleigh area and the teachers who work in them! Apparently this woman lives in the area and therefore really should know better. cgt
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5:34pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Of course, we didn't actually *NEED* to have been told about the utter CONTEMPT with which her sort regard ordinary working people ..... but hey - it's always nice to get the ocassional confirmation.
GET OFF YOUR KNEES - VOTE UKIP!
Of course, we didn't actually *NEED* to have been told about the utter CONTEMPT with which her sort regard ordinary working people ..... but hey - it's always nice to get the ocassional confirmation. GET OFF YOUR KNEES - VOTE UKIP! Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
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5:41pm Sat 16 Feb 13

repcosy says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
Of course, we didn't actually *NEED* to have been told about the utter CONTEMPT with which her sort regard ordinary working people ..... but hey - it's always nice to get the ocassional confirmation.
GET OFF YOUR KNEES - VOTE UKIP!
Finally someone with some sense!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: Of course, we didn't actually *NEED* to have been told about the utter CONTEMPT with which her sort regard ordinary working people ..... but hey - it's always nice to get the ocassional confirmation. GET OFF YOUR KNEES - VOTE UKIP![/p][/quote]Finally someone with some sense!!! repcosy
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5:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cgt says...

Why would anyone apart from a foaming-at-the-mouth xenophobe who can't spell occasional want to vote UKIP?
Why would anyone apart from a foaming-at-the-mouth xenophobe who can't spell occasional want to vote UKIP? cgt
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5:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

THEKILLER says...

Why is anyone surprised ???
all politicians are in it for the perks.
Why is anyone surprised ??? all politicians are in it for the perks. THEKILLER
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5:52pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cgt says...

Sorry about my last comment. It was wrong of me to criticise someone's spelling.
Sorry about my last comment. It was wrong of me to criticise someone's spelling. cgt
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5:52pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

what is wrong you lot, this is a non-story !! can you not read ?? she did not say her child could not get a "good" education, she said the "right" education.
what is wrong you lot, this is a non-story !! can you not read ?? she did not say her child could not get a "good" education, she said the "right" education. MGRA
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5:56pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

cgt wrote:
Sorry about my last comment. It was wrong of me to criticise someone's spelling.
:-) It's ok - you're forgiven. I'm no xenophobe though - as I said in a reply to another by-election related story, I'm actually a Respect supporter/voter but in their absence, I'm voting UKIP. This would have been unthinkable a few years ago but enough is enough!
[quote][p][bold]cgt[/bold] wrote: Sorry about my last comment. It was wrong of me to criticise someone's spelling.[/p][/quote]:-) It's ok - you're forgiven. I'm no xenophobe though - as I said in a reply to another by-election related story, I'm actually a Respect supporter/voter but in their absence, I'm voting UKIP. This would have been unthinkable a few years ago but enough is enough! Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
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6:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

The Wickham Man says...

jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic. The Wickham Man
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6:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

TR2708 wrote:
would be a embarrassment for Eastleigh if she becomes MP she looks like a cross between a drag queen and a umpa lumpa and she has fascist views clearly reflected by her homophobia. I for one think she needs a good slap!
I'm not going to make personal attacks on her regarding the way she looks or anything, after all you can be a fantastic MP who speaks the truth without being an oil painting .... Tam Dayell/Jenny Tonge/Dennis Skinner ad infinitum but you know what, this woman looks totally different in the press photos compared to the ones she's used on her election literature.
Surely the Tories wouldn't resort to blatant photoshopping, would they?! Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]TR2708[/bold] wrote: would be a embarrassment for Eastleigh if she becomes MP she looks like a cross between a drag queen and a umpa lumpa and she has fascist views clearly reflected by her homophobia. I for one think she needs a good slap![/p][/quote]I'm not going to make personal attacks on her regarding the way she looks or anything, after all you can be a fantastic MP who speaks the truth without being an oil painting .... Tam Dayell/Jenny Tonge/Dennis Skinner ad infinitum but you know what, this woman looks totally different in the press photos compared to the ones she's used on her election literature. Surely the Tories wouldn't resort to blatant photoshopping, would they?! Just saying. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
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6:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve?

my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations.

that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me.

and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news.
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve? my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations. that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me. and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news. jonnyx
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6:39pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Lockssmart says...

Whereabouts in Eastleigh is she from?
Whereabouts in Eastleigh is she from? Lockssmart
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6:49pm Sat 16 Feb 13

andysaint says...

So - yet another public schoolboy education for the privaleged few - those earning enough money to benefit from Camerons millionaire tax concession. So no im not voting Tory.
Alternatively theres UKIP - out of europe and bugger the consequences - they have NO other policies.
Or maybe LIB DEM - ah - a party that throws away their morals for a brief taste of power.
Labour? ffs - a party so thick it votes the wrong brother as its leader.
Dont you just love our politicians - no idea and no f uckin clue
So - yet another public schoolboy education for the privaleged few - those earning enough money to benefit from Camerons millionaire tax concession. So no im not voting Tory. Alternatively theres UKIP - out of europe and bugger the consequences - they have NO other policies. Or maybe LIB DEM - ah - a party that throws away their morals for a brief taste of power. Labour? ffs - a party so thick it votes the wrong brother as its leader. Dont you just love our politicians - no idea and no f uckin clue andysaint
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6:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

eurogordi says...

So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated.

Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford.

Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools!
So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated. Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford. Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools! eurogordi
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6:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

eurogordi says...

So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated.

Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford.

Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools!
So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated. Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford. Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools! eurogordi
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6:54pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

I stated on a previous article that there is something about Maria that I can't warm to. No idea why I feel like this, I just do.

But to be fair, if she has the funds and is a responsible mother she will do whatever it takes to give her children the best education that suits their needs.

Good luck to her with regards bringing up her children, any parent who is prepared to work hard and give their children the best possible start in life deserves some praise.

I'm sorry but even though I support her views on education, she probably wouldn't get my vote if I were a resident of Eastleigh.
I stated on a previous article that there is something about Maria that I can't warm to. No idea why I feel like this, I just do. But to be fair, if she has the funds and is a responsible mother she will do whatever it takes to give her children the best education that suits their needs. Good luck to her with regards bringing up her children, any parent who is prepared to work hard and give their children the best possible start in life deserves some praise. I'm sorry but even though I support her views on education, she probably wouldn't get my vote if I were a resident of Eastleigh. IronLady2010
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7:14pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

eurogordi wrote:
So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated.

Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford.

Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools!
she did not say that. you needed a better education in English yourself. If you went to a state school you are proof of the pudding. Read what she said again , not the spin put on her comments by shallow politicians. she used the word "right" not the word "better" and it just goes to show how poor state education is that almost no-one knows the difference.....
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: So the Conservative candidate is not happy with state education? In doing so, she has hopefully alienated herself from the electorate who are already fed up to the back teeth with a government made up of people who were privately educated. Added to which, the state system is not all bad. My son went to what was a failing secondary school and an average college ... but with parental support, hard work and sheer determination he still managed to get into Oxford. Maria Hutchings would do well to recognise that education is just as much about the student as it is the school and its teachers. That applies to state schools ... it also applies to private schools![/p][/quote]she did not say that. you needed a better education in English yourself. If you went to a state school you are proof of the pudding. Read what she said again , not the spin put on her comments by shallow politicians. she used the word "right" not the word "better" and it just goes to show how poor state education is that almost no-one knows the difference..... MGRA
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7:15pm Sat 16 Feb 13

skin2000 says...

jonnyx wrote:
The Wickham Man wrote:
jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve?

my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations.

that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me.

and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news.
By admitting that she cannot find a state school capable of teaching her son, sounds to me, that her government is failing.
[quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve? my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations. that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me. and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news.[/p][/quote]By admitting that she cannot find a state school capable of teaching her son, sounds to me, that her government is failing. skin2000
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7:34pm Sat 16 Feb 13

st1halo says...

If I had a 12 yr old son who wanted to be a cardio-respiratory surgeon, I would make sure I locked him in his room at night!
Maybe she didn't mean "gifted". I think "thpecial" is the word!
If I had a 12 yr old son who wanted to be a cardio-respiratory surgeon, I would make sure I locked him in his room at night! Maybe she didn't mean "gifted". I think "thpecial" is the word! st1halo
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7:48pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

This horrible little troll has hopefully just shot herself in the foot. But why should it come as a surprise that a Tory politician (or politician of any persuasion for that matter, they're all guilty of this) thinks that their kids are above state education? We really are all just plebs to them aren't we?

Private education, private healthcare, private railways....abolish them all.
This horrible little troll has hopefully just shot herself in the foot. But why should it come as a surprise that a Tory politician (or politician of any persuasion for that matter, they're all guilty of this) thinks that their kids are above state education? We really are all just plebs to them aren't we? Private education, private healthcare, private railways....abolish them all. kingnotail
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8:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

The Watcher says...

What is it with our local Conservative Associations?
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How the hell did they end up going for this foot in mouth, gaffe prone candidate again? We've handed the LibDems a free run home selecting her.
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It was just as bad in Southampton at the General Election with our choice of candidates (you have to ask yourself how neither of them managed to usurp candidates of the most unpopular party in recent years).
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This recent gaffe is awful and undermines everything the Conservative Party should be standing for. Criticising local schools in such a way is an awful way to kick off your campaign.
What is it with our local Conservative Associations? . How the hell did they end up going for this foot in mouth, gaffe prone candidate again? We've handed the LibDems a free run home selecting her. . It was just as bad in Southampton at the General Election with our choice of candidates (you have to ask yourself how neither of them managed to usurp candidates of the most unpopular party in recent years). . This recent gaffe is awful and undermines everything the Conservative Party should be standing for. Criticising local schools in such a way is an awful way to kick off your campaign. The Watcher
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8:08pm Sat 16 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!! redsnapper
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8:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

I have just heard that Pastor Kevin Milburn is standing in the Eastleigh By- election for The Christian Party ; that means there are at least two Christians standing in this by- election, the other Danny Stupple standing as an Independent I believe..as previously mentioned this now creates a very interesting situation in Eastleigh, with a Conservative candidate, a UK Independence Party candidate, Kevin Milburn The Christian Party and Danny Stupple Independent who are all against-gay-marriage and pro traditional family plus the Conservative candidate is also pro-life and anti-EU... so lets hope between them they can defeat the Liberal Democrat candidate. Lets also hope the current important moral issues are debated in the nation leading up to this important by election and the elections that follow.

Maybe this by -election will be a forerunner for the European and General elections with tactical voting for individual candidates from the faith vote, ( estimated to be up to 4 million votes in the UK) not to mention the silent majority who have been ignored for more than a decade by trendy liberal governments first New labour and now a liberal led coalition; who have gone out of their way to appease a tiny militant minority in the clamour for so called equality and diversity, and to be seen as progressive modernists. But at what price to British society? It now seems some minorities are more equal than others, especially over Christians, with gay rights trumping all before them; when in conflict with matters of conscience or Christian beliefs, in what is seen by many as some kind of social experiment / engineering or some kind of up side down democracy, with minority rule.

Perhaps the Eastleigh by-election is the first opportunity for the electorate to give their verdict.
I have just heard that Pastor Kevin Milburn is standing in the Eastleigh By- election for The Christian Party ; that means there are at least two Christians standing in this by- election, the other Danny Stupple standing as an Independent I believe..as previously mentioned this now creates a very interesting situation in Eastleigh, with a Conservative candidate, a UK Independence Party candidate, Kevin Milburn The Christian Party and Danny Stupple Independent who are all against-gay-marriage and pro traditional family plus the Conservative candidate is also pro-life and anti-EU... so lets hope between them they can defeat the Liberal Democrat candidate. Lets also hope the current important moral issues are debated in the nation leading up to this important by election and the elections that follow. Maybe this by -election will be a forerunner for the European and General elections with tactical voting for individual candidates from the faith vote, ( estimated to be up to 4 million votes in the UK) not to mention the silent majority who have been ignored for more than a decade by trendy liberal governments first New labour and now a liberal led coalition; who have gone out of their way to appease a tiny militant minority in the clamour for so called equality and diversity, and to be seen as progressive modernists. But at what price to British society? It now seems some minorities are more equal than others, especially over Christians, with gay rights trumping all before them; when in conflict with matters of conscience or Christian beliefs, in what is seen by many as some kind of social experiment / engineering or some kind of up side down democracy, with minority rule. Perhaps the Eastleigh by-election is the first opportunity for the electorate to give their verdict. LancashireLad
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8:33pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

LancashireLad wrote:
I have just heard that Pastor Kevin Milburn is standing in the Eastleigh By- election for The Christian Party ; that means there are at least two Christians standing in this by- election, the other Danny Stupple standing as an Independent I believe..as previously mentioned this now creates a very interesting situation in Eastleigh, with a Conservative candidate, a UK Independence Party candidate, Kevin Milburn The Christian Party and Danny Stupple Independent who are all against-gay-marriage and pro traditional family plus the Conservative candidate is also pro-life and anti-EU... so lets hope between them they can defeat the Liberal Democrat candidate. Lets also hope the current important moral issues are debated in the nation leading up to this important by election and the elections that follow.

Maybe this by -election will be a forerunner for the European and General elections with tactical voting for individual candidates from the faith vote, ( estimated to be up to 4 million votes in the UK) not to mention the silent majority who have been ignored for more than a decade by trendy liberal governments first New labour and now a liberal led coalition; who have gone out of their way to appease a tiny militant minority in the clamour for so called equality and diversity, and to be seen as progressive modernists. But at what price to British society? It now seems some minorities are more equal than others, especially over Christians, with gay rights trumping all before them; when in conflict with matters of conscience or Christian beliefs, in what is seen by many as some kind of social experiment / engineering or some kind of up side down democracy, with minority rule.

Perhaps the Eastleigh by-election is the first opportunity for the electorate to give their verdict.
The sooner that christianity and all other religions are consigned to the dustbin of history, the better the outlook for the future of mankind.
[quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: I have just heard that Pastor Kevin Milburn is standing in the Eastleigh By- election for The Christian Party ; that means there are at least two Christians standing in this by- election, the other Danny Stupple standing as an Independent I believe..as previously mentioned this now creates a very interesting situation in Eastleigh, with a Conservative candidate, a UK Independence Party candidate, Kevin Milburn The Christian Party and Danny Stupple Independent who are all against-gay-marriage and pro traditional family plus the Conservative candidate is also pro-life and anti-EU... so lets hope between them they can defeat the Liberal Democrat candidate. Lets also hope the current important moral issues are debated in the nation leading up to this important by election and the elections that follow. Maybe this by -election will be a forerunner for the European and General elections with tactical voting for individual candidates from the faith vote, ( estimated to be up to 4 million votes in the UK) not to mention the silent majority who have been ignored for more than a decade by trendy liberal governments first New labour and now a liberal led coalition; who have gone out of their way to appease a tiny militant minority in the clamour for so called equality and diversity, and to be seen as progressive modernists. But at what price to British society? It now seems some minorities are more equal than others, especially over Christians, with gay rights trumping all before them; when in conflict with matters of conscience or Christian beliefs, in what is seen by many as some kind of social experiment / engineering or some kind of up side down democracy, with minority rule. Perhaps the Eastleigh by-election is the first opportunity for the electorate to give their verdict.[/p][/quote]The sooner that christianity and all other religions are consigned to the dustbin of history, the better the outlook for the future of mankind. kingnotail
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8:46pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me MGRA
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8:48pm Sat 16 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance. good-gosh
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8:48pm Sat 16 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

The rise and rise of UK Independence Party will this be their first ever Pariamentary Seat?... will the people of Eastleigh make history and break up the cosy club of Cons, Lib Dems and Labour for ever?...UKIP have an outstanding candidate in Diane James and must have an outside chance of winning this by-election... a vote for Diane James would be vote to leave the EU and a message to all the pro EU cosy little club of three! Time for a real change not just in Eastleigh but in the UK. This could be the beginning of a new dawn and real hope for the people of Britain.
The rise and rise of UK Independence Party will this be their first ever Pariamentary Seat?... will the people of Eastleigh make history and break up the cosy club of Cons, Lib Dems and Labour for ever?...UKIP have an outstanding candidate in Diane James and must have an outside chance of winning this by-election... a vote for Diane James would be vote to leave the EU and a message to all the pro EU cosy little club of three! Time for a real change not just in Eastleigh but in the UK. This could be the beginning of a new dawn and real hope for the people of Britain. LancashireLad
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8:50pm Sat 16 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

typo Parliamentary* seat?
typo Parliamentary* seat? LancashireLad
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8:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

The Watcher says...

good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate. The Watcher
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9:03pm Sat 16 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think. good-gosh
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9:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

derek james says...

she's after the mp's perks, pay and pension, then she'll be able to afford to send him to a decent school
she's after the mp's perks, pay and pension, then she'll be able to afford to send him to a decent school derek james
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9:08pm Sat 16 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine redsnapper
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9:21pm Sat 16 Feb 13

The Watcher says...

good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency. The Watcher
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9:23pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids. MGRA
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9:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education.

If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy.

It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated! IronLady2010
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9:35pm Sat 16 Feb 13

skin2000 says...

good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
If she gets elected, she will be able to claim the school fees back on expenses....I think that's the way it works...Nardine will know. Anybody know her views on duck houses?
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]If she gets elected, she will be able to claim the school fees back on expenses....I think that's the way it works...Nardine will know. Anybody know her views on duck houses? skin2000
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9:37pm Sat 16 Feb 13

The Watcher says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education.

If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy.

It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools.
.
It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated![/p][/quote]By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away. The Watcher
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9:45pm Sat 16 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
She said she wants "the right sort of education for him – impossible in the state system". Wanting a different education from the state system is a preference for something different, not a criticism of the state system.
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]She said she wants "the right sort of education for him – impossible in the state system". Wanting a different education from the state system is a preference for something different, not a criticism of the state system. good-gosh
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9:52pm Sat 16 Feb 13

skin2000 says...

good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
She said she wants "the right sort of education for him – impossible in the state system". Wanting a different education from the state system is a preference for something different, not a criticism of the state system.
Sounds like a criticism to me.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]She said she wants "the right sort of education for him – impossible in the state system". Wanting a different education from the state system is a preference for something different, not a criticism of the state system.[/p][/quote]Sounds like a criticism to me. skin2000
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9:55pm Sat 16 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
Wrong!! Read it again and like other well educated state school people you will note that she has written off state schools for her " very gifted son" .

Another typical Tory trait is that being gifted or not they are educated at private schools to think that they are better than the rest and fit to rule us all.
Having said that one cannot help admit that the previous and now disgraced MP was arrogant and greedy beyond belief and not a Tory. Must be something they all learn at the Westminster Theatre of Greed!!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.[/p][/quote]Wrong!! Read it again and like other well educated state school people you will note that she has written off state schools for her " very gifted son" . Another typical Tory trait is that being gifted or not they are educated at private schools to think that they are better than the rest and fit to rule us all. Having said that one cannot help admit that the previous and now disgraced MP was arrogant and greedy beyond belief and not a Tory. Must be something they all learn at the Westminster Theatre of Greed!! redsnapper
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10:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

The Watcher wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education.

If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy.

It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools.
.
It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.
Let's be honest with each other here.

State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars.

Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control.

Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred.

If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies.

Sorry for being honest!
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated![/p][/quote]By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest! IronLady2010
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10:07pm Sat 16 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

If a child was retarded, the mother would not be criticised for considering a suitably adapted private school. nor should that be spun into being criticism of state schools. Similarly, the mother of a gifted child should not be criticised for considering using a suitably adapted private school, and again, that should not be spun into being criticism of state schools.
If a child was retarded, the mother would not be criticised for considering a suitably adapted private school. nor should that be spun into being criticism of state schools. Similarly, the mother of a gifted child should not be criticised for considering using a suitably adapted private school, and again, that should not be spun into being criticism of state schools. good-gosh
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10:08pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
Wrong!! Read it again and like other well educated state school people you will note that she has written off state schools for her " very gifted son" .

Another typical Tory trait is that being gifted or not they are educated at private schools to think that they are better than the rest and fit to rule us all.
Having said that one cannot help admit that the previous and now disgraced MP was arrogant and greedy beyond belief and not a Tory. Must be something they all learn at the Westminster Theatre of Greed!!
she did not "write off" state schools... that is your twisted fantasy. She simply said it was "impossible to get the right education" for her child in the state sector. the fact you can not understand this underlines her point. Assuming you were state educated , you can not read plain english !!!! Q.E.D.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.[/p][/quote]Wrong!! Read it again and like other well educated state school people you will note that she has written off state schools for her " very gifted son" . Another typical Tory trait is that being gifted or not they are educated at private schools to think that they are better than the rest and fit to rule us all. Having said that one cannot help admit that the previous and now disgraced MP was arrogant and greedy beyond belief and not a Tory. Must be something they all learn at the Westminster Theatre of Greed!![/p][/quote]she did not "write off" state schools... that is your twisted fantasy. She simply said it was "impossible to get the right education" for her child in the state sector. the fact you can not understand this underlines her point. Assuming you were state educated , you can not read plain english !!!! Q.E.D. MGRA
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10:10pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
Quite right, I am afraid it is envy and that old green monster, jealousy.
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Quite right, I am afraid it is envy and that old green monster, jealousy. Sir Ad E Noid
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10:29pm Sat 16 Feb 13

AdamSFC says...

Tory scum, they never change.
Tory scum, they never change. AdamSFC
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10:45pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Quite Frankly says...

Unfit for office.
Unfit for office. Quite Frankly
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11:10pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Quite Frankly wrote:
Unfit for office.
I agree, Labour should be banished!
[quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: Unfit for office.[/p][/quote]I agree, Labour should be banished! IronLady2010
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11:19pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

AdamSFC wrote:
Tory scum, they never change.
Labour scum, they will never change.
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: Tory scum, they never change.[/p][/quote]Labour scum, they will never change. Sir Ad E Noid
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11:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

MGRA says...

AdamSFC wrote:
Tory scum, they never change.
AdamSFC scum.... too thick to be able to read plain english.... :0)
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: Tory scum, they never change.[/p][/quote]AdamSFC scum.... too thick to be able to read plain english.... :0) MGRA
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12:31am Sun 17 Feb 13

st1halo says...

good-gosh wrote:
If a child was retarded, the mother would not be criticised for considering a suitably adapted private school. nor should that be spun into being criticism of state schools. Similarly, the mother of a gifted child should not be criticised for considering using a suitably adapted private school, and again, that should not be spun into being criticism of state schools.
I was unaware that any schools provided lessons in cardio-respiratory surgery for 12's and above!! how the curriculum has changed!
Let's be clear, private schools are not for the "gifted", they are for people who can afford to send their children there. So let's not perpetuate the myth, the pre-requisite is money, not intelligence. There are private schools in Essex with chavs-a-plenty!
It is her choice to have her son privately educated and she is entitled to that choice.
However, I doubt very much that her child is "gifted" but that she provides that as an excuse because she is somewhat embarrased by her choices (even though she has no need to be)
She should have been mindful of her comments. The sad thing is that, as a mother who wants the best for her child, she should recognise how important that is to most parents who don't have the same options and should be working to raise standards in all schools.
When politicians are prepared to send their children to any local school, you will know that they have done their job. While they don't, they admit failure.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: If a child was retarded, the mother would not be criticised for considering a suitably adapted private school. nor should that be spun into being criticism of state schools. Similarly, the mother of a gifted child should not be criticised for considering using a suitably adapted private school, and again, that should not be spun into being criticism of state schools.[/p][/quote]I was unaware that any schools provided lessons in cardio-respiratory surgery for 12's and above!! how the curriculum has changed! Let's be clear, private schools are not for the "gifted", they are for people who can afford to send their children there. So let's not perpetuate the myth, the pre-requisite is money, not intelligence. There are private schools in Essex with chavs-a-plenty! It is her choice to have her son privately educated and she is entitled to that choice. However, I doubt very much that her child is "gifted" but that she provides that as an excuse because she is somewhat embarrased by her choices (even though she has no need to be) She should have been mindful of her comments. The sad thing is that, as a mother who wants the best for her child, she should recognise how important that is to most parents who don't have the same options and should be working to raise standards in all schools. When politicians are prepared to send their children to any local school, you will know that they have done their job. While they don't, they admit failure. st1halo
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1:18am Sun 17 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent.
.
By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son.
.
That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates.
.
If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education.

If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy.

It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools.
.
It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.
Let's be honest with each other here.

State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars.

Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control.

Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred.

If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies.

Sorry for being honest!
Private schools are a place for spoilt little brats to be indoctrinated in the kind of twisted views that you have just spouted. Did you know that over 90% of children in the UK attend state schools? I admit most areas will have a few underperforming state schools, but the majority will provide just as good an education as any private school, and children will learn about the real world there, rather than being wrapped in a veil of unearned entitlement and false social superiority.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated![/p][/quote]By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest![/p][/quote]Private schools are a place for spoilt little brats to be indoctrinated in the kind of twisted views that you have just spouted. Did you know that over 90% of children in the UK attend state schools? I admit most areas will have a few underperforming state schools, but the majority will provide just as good an education as any private school, and children will learn about the real world there, rather than being wrapped in a veil of unearned entitlement and false social superiority. kingnotail
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1:53am Sun 17 Feb 13

ghqemu says...

It would seem to an expat. formerly of Eastleigh, that the Conservative Party have given themselves something of a handicap in endorsing this candidate.
I have observed from afar, the goings on of this constituency's elected representatives over the years. There is a definite chance of more entertainment to come!
It would seem to an expat. formerly of Eastleigh, that the Conservative Party have given themselves something of a handicap in endorsing this candidate. I have observed from afar, the goings on of this constituency's elected representatives over the years. There is a definite chance of more entertainment to come! ghqemu
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3:50am Sun 17 Feb 13

Paramjit Bahia says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
I admire those parents who make sacrifices for providing best possible education for their children.

While there are plenty around who rather than taking interest in their children’s education express their affection by wasting money on video games, feeding on Pony Burgers or wasting on designer clothes and many other such things which may keep the by-products of pleasure and unprotected sex out of the way.

So it may not be popular with some of my mates on the left but I appreciate what you have done for your children as good parent.

Having said that let us look at the real issue. Why some parents opt for private but for some reason called public schools?

Most are doing it because due to lack of resources and overcrowding (teacher student ratio) other schools can’t provide the same standards.

Obviously there are few who send kids to public schools as part of snobbery, so less said about that group the better.

But because in the case of this Tory candidate, there are excellent schools in the area, I can understand why some of us think she could be in the second group of parents.

On top of that what right has she got to insult the school and staff of schools who are doing exceptionally well despite Tory County Council and Condem Coalition at national level.

Other element of this lady which I am concerned about is her stupidity for not engaging her brain before opening her mouth about her son, thus exposing a child to sharks from media circus. Kids should be allowed to grow up without such pressures. Now don’t be surprised if the hacks start digging into the life of this gifted child.

Am I correct in assuming that public money is also poured into ‘Public Schools’, which also make parents of their pupils also pay through their noses?

Oh, by the way regarding your remark other day about women in India. It may surprise you that you most miserably failed to hurt me. Because in fact I want the whole world to condemn how disturbingly large women have started to suffer sexual harassment and even rapes in land of Mahatma Gandhi, which enshrined equality for all its citizens in constitution way back in 1950. Rather than feeling insulted, which was you wanted to do, I will in fact urge you to sign petition on change.org

In my view all you achieved by that silly remark was to expose childish side of your own. I have lived in UK, actually in Southampton, virtually whole of my adult life. My home is Southampton not India.
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]I admire those parents who make sacrifices for providing best possible education for their children. While there are plenty around who rather than taking interest in their children’s education express their affection by wasting money on video games, feeding on Pony Burgers or wasting on designer clothes and many other such things which may keep the by-products of pleasure and unprotected sex out of the way. So it may not be popular with some of my mates on the left but I appreciate what you have done for your children as good parent. Having said that let us look at the real issue. Why some parents opt for private but for some reason called public schools? Most are doing it because due to lack of resources and overcrowding (teacher student ratio) other schools can’t provide the same standards. Obviously there are few who send kids to public schools as part of snobbery, so less said about that group the better. But because in the case of this Tory candidate, there are excellent schools in the area, I can understand why some of us think she could be in the second group of parents. On top of that what right has she got to insult the school and staff of schools who are doing exceptionally well despite Tory County Council and Condem Coalition at national level. Other element of this lady which I am concerned about is her stupidity for not engaging her brain before opening her mouth about her son, thus exposing a child to sharks from media circus. Kids should be allowed to grow up without such pressures. Now don’t be surprised if the hacks start digging into the life of this gifted child. Am I correct in assuming that public money is also poured into ‘Public Schools’, which also make parents of their pupils also pay through their noses? Oh, by the way regarding your remark other day about women in India. It may surprise you that you most miserably failed to hurt me. Because in fact I want the whole world to condemn how disturbingly large women have started to suffer sexual harassment and even rapes in land of Mahatma Gandhi, which enshrined equality for all its citizens in constitution way back in 1950. Rather than feeling insulted, which was you wanted to do, I will in fact urge you to sign petition on change.org In my view all you achieved by that silly remark was to expose childish side of your own. I have lived in UK, actually in Southampton, virtually whole of my adult life. My home is Southampton not India. Paramjit Bahia
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3:53am Sun 17 Feb 13

Paramjit Bahia says...

HillsidePaul wrote:
Happy to attack Tony Blair (as a "non political" parent) about more state funded provision for one of her sons. Now thinks state schools are beneath her "gifted" son.

Hypocritical snob.
Hillsidepaul, Well done, that is straight in the bull’s eye!!! Love it.

But did you have to use the words ‘hypocritical snob’, when simply saying ‘Tory’ or ‘CONservative’ would have been more to the point?

Having said that I think NuLabourites need to be careful, not only because of TORY Blair, but people could also pick upon Jack Dromy and Harriet Harman plus fake lefty Diana Abbot and probably few others as well.
[quote][p][bold]HillsidePaul[/bold] wrote: Happy to attack Tony Blair (as a "non political" parent) about more state funded provision for one of her sons. Now thinks state schools are beneath her "gifted" son. Hypocritical snob.[/p][/quote]Hillsidepaul, Well done, that is straight in the bull’s eye!!! Love it. But did you have to use the words ‘hypocritical snob’, when simply saying ‘Tory’ or ‘CONservative’ would have been more to the point? Having said that I think NuLabourites need to be careful, not only because of TORY Blair, but people could also pick upon Jack Dromy and Harriet Harman plus fake lefty Diana Abbot and probably few others as well. Paramjit Bahia
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8:57am Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

jonnyx wrote:
The Wickham Man wrote:
jonnyx wrote:
oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this...

...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck.

i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long
What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that?
I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you.
Pathetic.
wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve?

my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations.

that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me.

and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news.
Great post
[quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: oops. er mrs hutchings i think you just dropped this... ...hands her a massive, hairy bo***ck. i love it when the ideological slip starts to show. they can never keep up the pretence too long[/p][/quote]What's controversial about it? My daughters went to private school because I paid for them to go there. I didn't ask you or anyone else to contribute - in fact my taxes paid for state school places they didn;t take. I didn't get a refund and didn't ask for one. WHat's your problem with that? I earned every penny I have and I pay income tax on every penny I have . I could have enjoyed better holidays and cars but chose to spend it on my kids esucation instead and never regretted it for a minute. So describe this so called b****ck that you think me and every other private school parent has dropped, because from here you stink of envy and petty hatred of anyone who earns more than you. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]wow. you're reading rather more into my comment than seems healthy. chip on your shoulder? hitting a bit of a raw nerve? my point was that perhaps the conservative candidate in a by-election shouldn't really be seeming to belittle that state education system if she wants to stand a chance of getting elected. there are few things the electorate seem to resent more than a well-aimed kick at their lifestyles, chances, dreams and aspirations. that's all mate. the fact you seemed to lose your s**t over it says more about you than it does me. and d'you know what i bet even cameron did a face palm when he heard the good news.[/p][/quote]Great post elvisimo
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9:11am Sun 17 Feb 13

userds5050 says...

MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.[/p][/quote]Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part? userds5050
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9:49am Sun 17 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

userds5050 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part?
"Right education and impossible in the state system" translated means that her gifted son wil not be able to make the right contacts unless he follows the time honoured route of private (Eton) >Oxbridge> or any other uni infested with private school types so that they can clique together and feed of each other to get the best jobs and career paths in Britain, and to maintain this invidious situation which results in today's cabinet being full of Etonians who are only in it for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.[/p][/quote]Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part?[/p][/quote]"Right education and impossible in the state system" translated means that her gifted son wil not be able to make the right contacts unless he follows the time honoured route of private (Eton) >Oxbridge> or any other uni infested with private school types so that they can clique together and feed of each other to get the best jobs and career paths in Britain, and to maintain this invidious situation which results in today's cabinet being full of Etonians who are only in it for themselves. redsnapper
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11:00am Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

Simple choice three liberal parties; Conservative, Liberal Democrats and Labour or a real alternative right of centre party with an excellent candidate standing for the UK Independence Party, vote Diane James! Simples!
Simple choice three liberal parties; Conservative, Liberal Democrats and Labour or a real alternative right of centre party with an excellent candidate standing for the UK Independence Party, vote Diane James! Simples! LancashireLad
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11:03am Sun 17 Feb 13

MGRA says...

redsnapper wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
MGRA wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me!

Greedy blue bar stewards!!
just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me
Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population.

Typical Tory bovine
no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.
Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part?
"Right education and impossible in the state system" translated means that her gifted son wil not be able to make the right contacts unless he follows the time honoured route of private (Eton) >Oxbridge> or any other uni infested with private school types so that they can clique together and feed of each other to get the best jobs and career paths in Britain, and to maintain this invidious situation which results in today's cabinet being full of Etonians who are only in it for themselves.
no it doe not translate to that at all. Thats your own fantasy world. It means she wants him to have more focused education and not studying subjects in KS4 that he won't exam in or need. Or in other words she does not want him to waste 25% of his time at school ( as she sees it ). I don't necessarily agree with that point of view since a more rounded education is valuable but that is where she is coming from , not your 1970s stereotype.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Classic Tory!! They really are reprehensible. It's not we re in together. It's all about Me me me me! Greedy blue bar stewards!![/p][/quote]just like Union leaders..... Classic socialists.... greedy me me me[/p][/quote]Probably right but its only the arrogant Tory candidate who is opens her huge great mouth and is so insensisitive to local education successes and so convinced that her son cannot mix with the rest of the population. Typical Tory bovine[/p][/quote]no she said nothing of the kind, you have fallen for the spin,,,, she just mentioned the "right" education for her son. If thats typical "tory" then the tories are going to sweep to victory in Eastleigh because all but the stupid want the "right" education for their kids.[/p][/quote]Did you miss the "impossible in the state system" part?[/p][/quote]"Right education and impossible in the state system" translated means that her gifted son wil not be able to make the right contacts unless he follows the time honoured route of private (Eton) >Oxbridge> or any other uni infested with private school types so that they can clique together and feed of each other to get the best jobs and career paths in Britain, and to maintain this invidious situation which results in today's cabinet being full of Etonians who are only in it for themselves.[/p][/quote]no it doe not translate to that at all. Thats your own fantasy world. It means she wants him to have more focused education and not studying subjects in KS4 that he won't exam in or need. Or in other words she does not want him to waste 25% of his time at school ( as she sees it ). I don't necessarily agree with that point of view since a more rounded education is valuable but that is where she is coming from , not your 1970s stereotype. MGRA
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11:12am Sun 17 Feb 13

rightway says...

MGRA wrote:
SotonGreen wrote: It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron.
MPs wealth has nothing to do with running the country. The Union leaders are all on £120K plus a year and have millionaire pensions but that does not stop the muppet membership funding theirlavish lifestyles...
Once again MGRA is making up his or her own facts.
Why not look up how much people earn before you pluck a figure from mid air and pretending you know what you're on about.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: It should come as no surprise from the do as I say not as I do, we are all in it together party of millionaire David Cameron.[/p][/quote]MPs wealth has nothing to do with running the country. The Union leaders are all on £120K plus a year and have millionaire pensions but that does not stop the muppet membership funding theirlavish lifestyles...[/p][/quote]Once again MGRA is making up his or her own facts. Why not look up how much people earn before you pluck a figure from mid air and pretending you know what you're on about. rightway
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11:15am Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

If you are for gay marriage and staying in the EU vote for one of the three liberal parties, if not vote for the UK Independence Party and make political history for Eastleigh: Sending a clear message to the nation, rejecting the wishy washy liberals and their politically correct policies and bowing at the alter of Brussel's and militant gay rights; all in the name of some so called equality and diversity of course.
If you are for gay marriage and staying in the EU vote for one of the three liberal parties, if not vote for the UK Independence Party and make political history for Eastleigh: Sending a clear message to the nation, rejecting the wishy washy liberals and their politically correct policies and bowing at the alter of Brussel's and militant gay rights; all in the name of some so called equality and diversity of course. LancashireLad
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11:38am Sun 17 Feb 13

rightway says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.
Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest!
At last, after a few months of moderate bigotry and snobbish nonsense I am pleased to see your spots have once again become visible.
Who are you to judge so many that go to public schools, to refer to people as scum and chavs just because they do not come from a wealthy or a well-educated background shows what type of person you really are. There are many rich and well educated people how really are scum with no moral fibre, or as you would describe them “Tories”
I can only imagine you are a sycophant aspiring to join those you deem to be your betters, and, by calling anyone who appears not to be middle or upper class, in your opinion, is merely throwing a smoke screen as to not reveal your own neglected upbringing.

Those that shout the loudest usually have the most to hide.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated![/p][/quote]By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest![/p][/quote]At last, after a few months of moderate bigotry and snobbish nonsense I am pleased to see your spots have once again become visible. Who are you to judge so many that go to public schools, to refer to people as scum and chavs just because they do not come from a wealthy or a well-educated background shows what type of person you really are. There are many rich and well educated people how really are scum with no moral fibre, or as you would describe them “Tories” I can only imagine you are a sycophant aspiring to join those you deem to be your betters, and, by calling anyone who appears not to be middle or upper class, in your opinion, is merely throwing a smoke screen as to not reveal your own neglected upbringing. Those that shout the loudest usually have the most to hide. rightway
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12:00pm Sun 17 Feb 13

userds5050 says...

Funnily enough Lib Dem candidate Mike Thornton's daughter went to a state school in Eastleigh before studying medicine at Imperial college. #impossible
Funnily enough Lib Dem candidate Mike Thornton's daughter went to a state school in Eastleigh before studying medicine at Imperial college. #impossible userds5050
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12:12pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sam1970 says...

I would love to see a UKIP MP in Westminster. It's time that they were represented, then we can see what they are made of. It is time to give them a voice.
I would love to see a UKIP MP in Westminster. It's time that they were represented, then we can see what they are made of. It is time to give them a voice. sam1970
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12:20pm Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

I went to a state school and like to think I am a pretty good advert for what you can achieve with a thirst for knowledge and intellectual curiosity.

I did my time, went to university despite the protests of both parents with the encouragement of my science teacher.

I now have a good job contributing in my own small way to society.
I went to a state school and like to think I am a pretty good advert for what you can achieve with a thirst for knowledge and intellectual curiosity. I did my time, went to university despite the protests of both parents with the encouragement of my science teacher. I now have a good job contributing in my own small way to society. SotonGreen
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12:28pm Sun 17 Feb 13

thinklikealocal says...

I wonder how she's gonna pay for it? After all, in a 'spin and I might win' story earlier in the week we were told she recently had to sell her car cos she couldn't afford to have it fixed...... (I'm so 'ordinary' don't you know). Oh dear, the publicity machine has gone wrong and allowed some blatant contradictions to surface.
I wonder how she's gonna pay for it? After all, in a 'spin and I might win' story earlier in the week we were told she recently had to sell her car cos she couldn't afford to have it fixed...... (I'm so 'ordinary' don't you know). Oh dear, the publicity machine has gone wrong and allowed some blatant contradictions to surface. thinklikealocal
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1:34pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Boyatt.Hood says...

I was educated in Eastleigh and I was proud to achieve my A levels at Barton Peveril College. I now have two degrees and a successful career in teaching. I am a head teacher of a primary school in Eastleigh. Mrs Hutchings is very welcome to share her views on state education with my dedicated teaching staff who care passionately about our children's learning and the parents and children who give us their overwhelming approval and support when we survey them.
I was educated in Eastleigh and I was proud to achieve my A levels at Barton Peveril College. I now have two degrees and a successful career in teaching. I am a head teacher of a primary school in Eastleigh. Mrs Hutchings is very welcome to share her views on state education with my dedicated teaching staff who care passionately about our children's learning and the parents and children who give us their overwhelming approval and support when we survey them. Boyatt.Hood
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1:41pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Donald2000 says...

I am so glad that this candidate has dropped this destructive bombshell on her campaign. Remember folks, this is what you are going to be voting for. This is the loaded gun that you are pointing at yourselves. She's about as much in touch with reality as a bad egg.The only good thing she has done has been to reveal herself. Oh and by the way, the genetic prognosis for her son is not good; they don't want brain surgeons whose ability has been soured and stunted by daft parenting.
I am so glad that this candidate has dropped this destructive bombshell on her campaign. Remember folks, this is what you are going to be voting for. This is the loaded gun that you are pointing at yourselves. She's about as much in touch with reality as a bad egg.The only good thing she has done has been to reveal herself. Oh and by the way, the genetic prognosis for her son is not good; they don't want brain surgeons whose ability has been soured and stunted by daft parenting. Donald2000
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1:55pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southampton999 says...

I have read elsewhere that these comments were taken out if context. Apparently she has two autistic children and she said that they needed extra help. It is quite normal for an autistic 12 year old to come out with comments such as wanting to become a 'cardio surgeon'. This type of thinking is part of the condition.
You have to love the press don't you!!!
I have read elsewhere that these comments were taken out if context. Apparently she has two autistic children and she said that they needed extra help. It is quite normal for an autistic 12 year old to come out with comments such as wanting to become a 'cardio surgeon'. This type of thinking is part of the condition. You have to love the press don't you!!! southampton999
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2:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Tom Redpath says...

Why did she say it in the first place ? She must be incredibly wise to know the entire state sector , does she know all the state schools in Eastleigh Borough ? I wouldn't claim to know them after 50 years , she hasn't been here 3 yet.
Why did she say it in the first place ? She must be incredibly wise to know the entire state sector , does she know all the state schools in Eastleigh Borough ? I wouldn't claim to know them after 50 years , she hasn't been here 3 yet. Tom Redpath
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3:01pm Sun 17 Feb 13

thinklikealocal says...

southampton999 wrote:
I have read elsewhere that these comments were taken out if context. Apparently she has two autistic children and she said that they needed extra help. It is quite normal for an autistic 12 year old to come out with comments such as wanting to become a 'cardio surgeon'. This type of thinking is part of the condition. You have to love the press don't you!!!
She has two older children, one with Asperger and one with Autism. This is another child.
[quote][p][bold]southampton999[/bold] wrote: I have read elsewhere that these comments were taken out if context. Apparently she has two autistic children and she said that they needed extra help. It is quite normal for an autistic 12 year old to come out with comments such as wanting to become a 'cardio surgeon'. This type of thinking is part of the condition. You have to love the press don't you!!![/p][/quote]She has two older children, one with Asperger and one with Autism. This is another child. thinklikealocal
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3:22pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Pikey-Biker says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
The Watcher wrote:
good-gosh wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.
It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.
She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.
So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.
When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated!
By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.
Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest!
Whilst I am believer in free choice of where parents send their children to school your post is very patronising to those who didn’t have the choice of going to a private school
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a perfectly understandable concern of a mother for her child. It's her private choice and it doesn't slight anyone. But it's understandable that republican extremists can't resist making their usual baseless grunts at every chance.[/p][/quote]It may indeed be her private choice, but in doing so she does not have to rubbish other people's choice, not least because they are the very people she is hoping to represent. . By criticising the many good schools in the area, as well as insulting those who have chosen to send their children to them, she has undermined the majority of the electorate.[/p][/quote]She believes her child to be gifted and doesn’t want anything left to chance. Commendable I think.[/p][/quote]So it's commendable for the potential MP to criticise the many good schools claiming they are not good enough for her son. . That is despite there being many good schools in the area. e.g. Thornden being a particularly fantastic school almost 100% GCSE pass rates. . If she wants to go private, then that's her prerogative, but in doing so she should not be denigrating the many excellent schools in her constituency.[/p][/quote]When was she critical of local schools? I'm not supporting her, but it's her choice after talking to HER children which route she takes regarding HER childrens education. If I had children I would invest every penny I had to put my children through the best education money could buy. It's a shame many have children and just chuck them through a school on the hope they may be educated![/p][/quote]By saying it was impossible to find a state school that caters for very able students, she has clearly criticised the local state schools. . It was a crass statement and one that should be retracted/apologised for, not excused or attempted to be Elaine's away.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest with each other here. State Schools have chavs from all walks of life, from Benefit thieving parents to burglars. Now, not all who go to state schools fit into the above criteria, but many do and teachers fight to try and keep control. Private School allows those who are gifted the opportunity to be away from the future (how do I say this) scum which is being bred. If I had children and had the money I would send my children to Private studies. Sorry for being honest![/p][/quote]Whilst I am believer in free choice of where parents send their children to school your post is very patronising to those who didn’t have the choice of going to a private school Pikey-Biker
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3:04pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

I never realised private school offer Gcses in "cardio surgery".
I never realised private school offer Gcses in "cardio surgery". Subject48
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