Labour big hitter on Eastleigh campaign trail

Daily Echo: John O’Farrell John O’Farrell

Labour candidate John O’Farrell was joined by a party heavyweight as he canvassed voters in Eastleigh.

Mr O’Farrell was accompanied by the party’s Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Rachel Reeves MP, to lobby for the 10p tax rate to be introduced.

The duo gave out red balloons to youngsters at the town’s Leigh Road play area yesterday morning, before talking to parents about their vision for the constituency.

Mrs Reeves said that the party would lobby for more affordable housing in the town, if Mr O’Farrell were to be elected.

Mrs Reeves said: “There are many young people who are struggling to get a foot on the housing ladder. Many families in Eastleigh and across the south of England have struggled with a rise in the cost of living and rising house prices, so building new affordable housing would help families here in Eastleigh and across the south-east.”

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11:16am Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more. southy
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11:29am Wed 20 Feb 13

MGRA says...

southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump. MGRA
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11:38am Wed 20 Feb 13

Lone Ranger. says...

MGRA wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.
Umm no slump !!! ........ far more deluded that people give you credit for.
.
When exactly are you due back to planet earth
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.[/p][/quote]Umm no slump !!! ........ far more deluded that people give you credit for. . When exactly are you due back to planet earth Lone Ranger.
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11:40am Wed 20 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed? Stephen J
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12:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Yorkyboy22 says...

MGRA wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.
Do you believe everything they tell you? The only employment on the rise is for part time/minimum wage jobs. Even that is appalling. Did you not see that 1700 people applied for just 8 Costa Coffee jobs! End of the slump my Rs!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.[/p][/quote]Do you believe everything they tell you? The only employment on the rise is for part time/minimum wage jobs. Even that is appalling. Did you not see that 1700 people applied for just 8 Costa Coffee jobs! End of the slump my Rs! Yorkyboy22
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12:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

MGRA wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.
Did someone say triple-dip recession?!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.[/p][/quote]Did someone say triple-dip recession?! kingnotail
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1:07pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil" southy
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1:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13

aldermoorboy says...

Labour spent £4 for every £3 earned, we will be paying for this for decades, they mucked up this country big time.
Now they make statements about terrorists killing our leaders and wishing our soldiers had lost a war, what scum they are.
Labour spent £4 for every £3 earned, we will be paying for this for decades, they mucked up this country big time. Now they make statements about terrorists killing our leaders and wishing our soldiers had lost a war, what scum they are. aldermoorboy
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1:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet! Stephen J
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1:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Labour spent £4 for every £3 earned, we will be paying for this for decades, they mucked up this country big time.
Now they make statements about terrorists killing our leaders and wishing our soldiers had lost a war, what scum they are.
It was better than the Torys spending £8 for every £3
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Labour spent £4 for every £3 earned, we will be paying for this for decades, they mucked up this country big time. Now they make statements about terrorists killing our leaders and wishing our soldiers had lost a war, what scum they are.[/p][/quote]It was better than the Torys spending £8 for every £3 southy
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1:27pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses southy
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1:44pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up! Stephen J
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3:48pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet southy
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4:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it? Stephen J
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4:06pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Southy stop moaning at least the kids have got their free baloons...... Probably full of hot air that came from Prescott's back side.... I mean exhaust pipe on the back of his Jag
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Southy stop moaning at least the kids have got their free baloons...... Probably full of hot air that came from Prescott's back side.... I mean exhaust pipe on the back of his Jag Paramjit Bahia
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4:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim.
I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?[/p][/quote]We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim. I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher southy
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4:44pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Southy stop moaning at least the kids have got their free baloons...... Probably full of hot air that came from Prescott's back side.... I mean exhaust pipe on the back of his Jag
lol
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Southy stop moaning at least the kids have got their free baloons...... Probably full of hot air that came from Prescott's back side.... I mean exhaust pipe on the back of his Jag[/p][/quote]lol southy
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5:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim.
I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher
It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?[/p][/quote]We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim. I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher[/p][/quote]It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform. Stephen J
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5:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13

freefinker says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim.
I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher
It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.
.. and he still hasn't named these Yorkshire MP's who claim no expenses. Who are they southy?
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?[/p][/quote]We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim. I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher[/p][/quote]It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.[/p][/quote].. and he still hasn't named these Yorkshire MP's who claim no expenses. Who are they southy? freefinker
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5:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim.
I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher
It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.
It is part of the party manifest is to do away with the expeneses sheet and not replace it from any thing.
I know I was at the London conference of the TUSC when we voted on the motion, and that was 3 years ago and will only be removed from the party manifest when its a done deal, It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest.
And you saying that Dave Hill said he would claim a season ticket to what a football match
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?[/p][/quote]We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim. I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher[/p][/quote]It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.[/p][/quote]It is part of the party manifest is to do away with the expeneses sheet and not replace it from any thing. I know I was at the London conference of the TUSC when we voted on the motion, and that was 3 years ago and will only be removed from the party manifest when its a done deal, It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest. And you saying that Dave Hill said he would claim a season ticket to what a football match southy
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5:45pm Wed 20 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed."

Has TUSC policy changed?
Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"
Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet!
Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses
What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up!
Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same.
Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses.
Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet
1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever.

The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?
We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim.
I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher
It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.
It is part of the party manifest is to do away with the expeneses sheet and not replace it from any thing.
I know I was at the London conference of the TUSC when we voted on the motion, and that was 3 years ago and will only be removed from the party manifest when its a done deal, It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest.
And you saying that Dave Hill said he would claim a season ticket to what a football match
.. 'It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest.'?? What are you talking about?

It would seem to me you are just waffling again. You can't point us to the TUSC manifesto (either of them?) on the website; probably because there isn’t such a document.

You refuse to tell us the names of these no expenses MP's - despite you saying 'those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire'. Two you actually know of, yes? Come on, you know who they are, but won’t tell us? Is it because they are imaginary?

And, oh do grow up. You know perfectly well Dave Hill was referring to a rail season ticket so he could commute to work from Brighton to London.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]Are you still absolutely sure about the "no expenses" bit? Because at the last general election, the TUSC in Stoke said this: "If elected, our Stoke candidate ... will take only the average wage of working class people & will provide regular reports of any expenses claimed." Has TUSC policy changed?[/p][/quote]Policy still the same, just that you miss read/heard what he was hinting at, the expenses report would of read like this "nil, nil, nil,nil"[/p][/quote]Misread or misheard what? I copied and pasted it from the TUSC campaign leaflet![/p][/quote]Your missing the point it would of read nil nil nil expenses[/p][/quote]What point? What are you on about? The fact is that it is impossible to be an MP on say £26,500, the working person's wage, and absorb all the costs of the job yourself. Impossible! Even Dennis Skinner, who regularly claims the least of all MPs, has to claim around £70k a year in expenses. It doesn't and cannot add up![/p][/quote]Is it then tell me why traveling contruction workers can travel from here to scotland and get no traveling and lodging money and a lot of them are on about the same. Any way you put the figure of £26,500 not me, I say MP's should be on half of what they are getting now and no expeneses. Dennis Skinner has one of the lowest publish made claims expenese there a number of MP's that do not claim any expenese and do not make the expeneses sheet[/p][/quote]1) A construction worker doesn't have to run an office and pay staff. 2) The figure I quote is the average UK wage. I use it in the absence of the TUSC being able to define what a "working wage" is. 3) Name the MPs who make no expenses claims whatsoever. The only entries on the entire internet that equate TUSC policy with "no expenses" come from you. Even your man in Brighton was going to claim for his season ticket. So it's not part of TUSC policy, and nor is it in the manifesto, is it?[/p][/quote]We do not have a man in Brighton, that is elected in any post for government or public service to be able to make a claim. I think its the TA that as the full list of claims that have been made by MP's and Lords, and it fulls short to the number of MP's, those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire, and the problem if part of the expenses is that they are claim for people they employ, when they should not be, if an MP as staff working for him then that should be down to the political party that they belong to, as it use to be before interduction of the expenses sheet by Thatcher[/p][/quote]It was a commitment from Dave Hill at the last election. He was not elected. The basic fact there is no evidence that "no expenses" is part of official TUSC policy, nor is it in the manifesto. To that extent, I think you have been misrepresenting the TUSC platform.[/p][/quote]It is part of the party manifest is to do away with the expeneses sheet and not replace it from any thing. I know I was at the London conference of the TUSC when we voted on the motion, and that was 3 years ago and will only be removed from the party manifest when its a done deal, It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest. And you saying that Dave Hill said he would claim a season ticket to what a football match[/p][/quote].. 'It would not be in the term of office manifest, but it is in the party manifest.'?? What are you talking about? It would seem to me you are just waffling again. You can't point us to the TUSC manifesto (either of them?) on the website; probably because there isn’t such a document. You refuse to tell us the names of these no expenses MP's - despite you saying 'those that are missing have not even claimed penny in expeneses two I know off are from Yorkshire'. Two you actually know of, yes? Come on, you know who they are, but won’t tell us? Is it because they are imaginary? And, oh do grow up. You know perfectly well Dave Hill was referring to a rail season ticket so he could commute to work from Brighton to London. freefinker
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MGRA wrote:
southy wrote:
Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got.
out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses.
The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch.
So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.
slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.
You are dafter than you first appeared, do you really believe those "doctored" figures? The economy is in meltdown and will only get worse if you keep robbing the poor to pay the rich.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lets see what real choices the people of Eastleigh really got. out of Tory's, Labour, Lib/dem, Ukip nothing apart from ukip they offer the EU vote but then so do other partys, They all offer the same more cuts and job loses, which in turn will effect the economy pushing it deeper into a slump. And MP's that will want a pay rise and bigger expenses. The NHA good idea, and worth the protest vote, but that is it, they only have 3 policys, 2 are all about health, whitch is covered by the TUSC, the 3 politcy is unworkable (independant MP's) nice idea lo, but would never work, it would result in a free for all in the House of Commons every MP wanting there ideas to be put forward, mind you it would be fun to watch. So the only real alternitavite people have is the TUSC, Who also offer the vote on the EU, (if we voted to get out then it would sort out the immergration problem), giving powers back to the local councils to run there own finance totally, putting back the finance restrictions that was removed in the 80's, giving councils the right to build there own homes with out asking government for permission, also MP's wages cut in half and no expenses claims. and many more.[/p][/quote]slump ? have you not seen the employment figures ? The economy is on the rebound. There is no slump.[/p][/quote]You are dafter than you first appeared, do you really believe those "doctored" figures? The economy is in meltdown and will only get worse if you keep robbing the poor to pay the rich. OSPREYSAINT
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