UKIP MEP for south defects to Tories

Daily Echo: UKIP MEP for south defects to Tories UKIP MEP for south defects to Tories

David Cameron received a boost when a South UK Independence Party MEP revealed she was defecting to the Tories.

Less than a week before the Eastleigh by-election, Marta Andreasen quit and launched an excoriating attack on Nigel Farage's leadership.

She dismissed the party's chances of achieving real power, and hailed the Prime Minister's speech pledging an in-out referendum on EU membership as a ''game changer''.

The parting shot - in an open letter from the South East region MEP - comes amid speculation Ukip could perform well in the crucial electoral test.

Mr Farage opted not to stand as a candidate himself - but was in the constituency again yesterday trying to drum up support.

However, Ms Andreasen said she did not believe the party could offer ''real leadership''.

''Ukip has good people in it at grass roots that care about the future of the United Kingdom and our place in a re-negotiated relationship with Europe,'' she wrote.

''Unfortunately, their party leader treats any views other than his own with contempt.

''Ukip is his plaything to mould and shape in any way he sees fit, regardless of the views of others, myself included.

''His actions, surrounding himself with an old boys club of like-minded sycophants, are dictatorial in sharp contrast to those of David Cameron, who has shown he can listen, adapt and do what is right for the country, not just for personal gain.''

Ms Andreasen said Mr Cameron's keynote address on Britain's relationship with the EU last month had convinced her the Conservatives were the ''true referendum party''.

''The Prime Minister's speech was a game changer; he promised to turn around the European freight train, which is currently heading towards a deeper federal Europe with no options for Britain,'' she went on.

''I was also reassured by the financial deal that David Cameron got for Britain on the EU Budget. This is a matter very close to my heart and for which I have fought hard, and it is an important step for Britain in this battle.''

By contrast, the MEP said Mr Farage's decision not to stand as a candidate in Eastleigh after former Cabinet minister Chris Huhne resigned in disgrace showed Ukip was only a ''pressure group''.

She warned Eastleigh voters that Ukip had no chance of victory, and supporting the party risked letting ''the Lib Dems in via the back door''.

Conservative Party chairman Grant Shapps said: ''I'm delighted to welcome Marta to the Conservative Party.

''She brings a wealth of experience - and a dedication to fight for what's best for the British people in Europe.

''Her decisive words on the Prime Minister's EU budget negotiations prove that the Conservatives are the only party who can protect Britain's interests in Europe.''

Mr Farage said in a statement: ''Having left the OECD, the European Commission and Ukip in unpleasant circumstances the Conservative Party deserve what is coming to them. The woman is impossible.''

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1:20pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

The xenophobe party go from strength to strength lol.
The xenophobe party go from strength to strength lol. cantthinkofone
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1:54pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
The xenophobe party go from strength to strength lol.
You make more bigoted, inbred and cretinous comments on this site than most. It makes sense to wish to come out of the EU for a few reasons and Marta Anreassen's reasons as the whistle blowing ex financial director of the EU are purely financial. My reason for once being a UKIP party member was that and the fact that we are too small a nation to endure the massive unstoppable immigration our membership was bringing from the EU. This is not xenophobic, it is common sense. Unlike Marta I do not believe dodgy Daves promise of a referendum in 2017 and have myself joined the Labour party as the one most likely to rid us of the anti working class party at the next election.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: The xenophobe party go from strength to strength lol.[/p][/quote]You make more bigoted, inbred and cretinous comments on this site than most. It makes sense to wish to come out of the EU for a few reasons and Marta Anreassen's reasons as the whistle blowing ex financial director of the EU are purely financial. My reason for once being a UKIP party member was that and the fact that we are too small a nation to endure the massive unstoppable immigration our membership was bringing from the EU. This is not xenophobic, it is common sense. Unlike Marta I do not believe dodgy Daves promise of a referendum in 2017 and have myself joined the Labour party as the one most likely to rid us of the anti working class party at the next election. Inform Al
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2:00pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Ha, you're such a card Al.

Lolkip.
Ha, you're such a card Al. Lolkip. cantthinkofone
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2:01pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true. cantthinkofone
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2:06pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.[/p][/quote]Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others. Inform Al
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2:13pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.
The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.[/p][/quote]Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.[/p][/quote]The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it? cantthinkofone
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2:28pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.
The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?
Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then?
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.[/p][/quote]Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.[/p][/quote]The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then? Inform Al
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2:39pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.
The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?
Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then?
No, I'm accusing you of being blind to reality and harbouring huge bitterness against the people who make up the society around you, hence your tiresome repetitive calls for criminals to be hung or otherwise killed. Your **** for blood marks you as a deeply unpleasant human being.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.[/p][/quote]Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.[/p][/quote]The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then?[/p][/quote]No, I'm accusing you of being blind to reality and harbouring huge bitterness against the people who make up the society around you, hence your tiresome repetitive calls for criminals to be hung or otherwise killed. Your **** for blood marks you as a deeply unpleasant human being. cantthinkofone
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2:42pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Forgot that the Echo bizarrely censors the word lu5t.
Forgot that the Echo bizarrely censors the word lu5t. cantthinkofone
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2:43pm Sat 23 Feb 13

southy says...

Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist
Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist southy
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2:50pm Sat 23 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist
.. because that's just your own personal fantasy.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist[/p][/quote].. because that's just your own personal fantasy. freefinker
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2:54pm Sat 23 Feb 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist
.. because that's just your own personal fantasy.
No she stated that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism which is Capitalist Communism, which sums up UKIP to the close T.
I leave all the fantasy for you, your to good at it.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist[/p][/quote].. because that's just your own personal fantasy.[/p][/quote]No she stated that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism which is Capitalist Communism, which sums up UKIP to the close T. I leave all the fantasy for you, your to good at it. southy
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3:00pm Sat 23 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist
.. because that's just your own personal fantasy.
No she stated that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism which is Capitalist Communism, which sums up UKIP to the close T.
I leave all the fantasy for you, your to good at it.
.. no, she accused Farage (not UKIP) of being ‘a Stalinist’. That is, she ment a ruthless dictator. She did NOT at any time state ‘that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism’. You really do need to get a grip on reality.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Wonder why the Echo left out the bit about UKIP being a liking to Capitalist communist[/p][/quote].. because that's just your own personal fantasy.[/p][/quote]No she stated that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism which is Capitalist Communism, which sums up UKIP to the close T. I leave all the fantasy for you, your to good at it.[/p][/quote].. no, she accused Farage (not UKIP) of being ‘a Stalinist’. That is, she ment a ruthless dictator. She did NOT at any time state ‘that UKIP was a liking to Stalinism communism’. You really do need to get a grip on reality. freefinker
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3:04pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.
Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.
The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?
Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then?
No, I'm accusing you of being blind to reality and harbouring huge bitterness against the people who make up the society around you, hence your tiresome repetitive calls for criminals to be hung or otherwise killed. Your **** for blood marks you as a deeply unpleasant human being.
By exterminating certain lowlife it is possible to save decent lives, that is not a **** for blood, just a sensible approach to a better life for all humanity. Far from disliking those around me, I consider myself fortunate to have so many decent neighbours.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: I'm am bigoted against racists, misogynists, and fascists though, that's true.[/p][/quote]Most of us dislike those idiots, and most of us dislike and distrust those that make disingenuous untrue allegations about others.[/p][/quote]The idea that your kin have almost certainly experimented at some stage has really rattled you hasn't it?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, that was the subject on another post. Are you admitting disingenuous lying then?[/p][/quote]No, I'm accusing you of being blind to reality and harbouring huge bitterness against the people who make up the society around you, hence your tiresome repetitive calls for criminals to be hung or otherwise killed. Your **** for blood marks you as a deeply unpleasant human being.[/p][/quote]By exterminating certain lowlife it is possible to save decent lives, that is not a **** for blood, just a sensible approach to a better life for all humanity. Far from disliking those around me, I consider myself fortunate to have so many decent neighbours. Inform Al
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3:17pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Disgusting lack of empathy.
Disgusting lack of empathy. cantthinkofone
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3:33pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Disgusting lack of empathy.
Looking in the mirror are you
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Disgusting lack of empathy.[/p][/quote]Looking in the mirror are you Inform Al
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3:34pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

J.P.M wrote:
Looks like Jimmy Savile
Are you looking in the mirror too
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Looks like Jimmy Savile[/p][/quote]Are you looking in the mirror too Inform Al
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3:38pm Sat 23 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

informal is 8 years old
informal is 8 years old J.P.M
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3:41pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

J.P.M wrote:
informal is 8 years old
Actually 21 going on 69 so as usual your post is cr4p
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: informal is 8 years old[/p][/quote]Actually 21 going on 69 so as usual your post is cr4p Inform Al
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3:42pm Sat 23 Feb 13

On the inside says...

Vote UKIP get Tory, Vote Lib-Dem get Tory, Vote Tory get Tory. They are all vermin but you may as well actually vote Tory if you are that way inclined.
Vote UKIP get Tory, Vote Lib-Dem get Tory, Vote Tory get Tory. They are all vermin but you may as well actually vote Tory if you are that way inclined. On the inside
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3:50pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

On the inside wrote:
Vote UKIP get Tory, Vote Lib-Dem get Tory, Vote Tory get Tory. They are all vermin but you may as well actually vote Tory if you are that way inclined.
As you don;t seem to think the Labour candidate is vermin should the Eastleigh voters go for Labour?
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: Vote UKIP get Tory, Vote Lib-Dem get Tory, Vote Tory get Tory. They are all vermin but you may as well actually vote Tory if you are that way inclined.[/p][/quote]As you don;t seem to think the Labour candidate is vermin should the Eastleigh voters go for Labour? Inform Al
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3:55pm Sat 23 Feb 13

ac1947 says...

If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ?
If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ? ac1947
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4:20pm Sat 23 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

Quote:

A British citizen.... or a citizen of another member state who is resident in the UK or Gibraltar during the nomination period.

Both Marta and Tim are clearly not UK residents. When asked about this at the London hustings Marta airily replied she was 'addressing' this issue. Some people I spoke to afterwards interpreted this (possibly cynically, but in the light of recent developments perhaps not) as roughly meaning ' if I get a high place on the list I will find an accommodation address in the UK for the minimum time necessary to meet Elcom criteria'
Quote: A British citizen.... or a citizen of another member state who is resident in the UK or Gibraltar during the nomination period. Both Marta and Tim are clearly not UK residents. When asked about this at the London hustings Marta airily replied she was 'addressing' this issue. Some people I spoke to afterwards interpreted this (possibly cynically, but in the light of recent developments perhaps not) as roughly meaning ' if I get a high place on the list I will find an accommodation address in the UK for the minimum time necessary to meet Elcom criteria' J.P.M
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4:46pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Is it just possible that Marta has been in touch with C'moron and convinced him of the need to get out of the EU? If so then we need to get her to talk to Milibland, we might then actually get a government prepared to act for the nation and its people if she convinces the two 'eds of the need to escape the EU.
Is it just possible that Marta has been in touch with C'moron and convinced him of the need to get out of the EU? If so then we need to get her to talk to Milibland, we might then actually get a government prepared to act for the nation and its people if she convinces the two 'eds of the need to escape the EU. Inform Al
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4:50pm Sat 23 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

Where did she grow-up.. Hedge End, or further afield?
Where did she grow-up.. Hedge End, or further afield? J.P.M
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4:58pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

21 going on 69, with the mind of an 8 year old, ex police and special forces, and utterly full of ****.
21 going on 69, with the mind of an 8 year old, ex police and special forces, and utterly full of ****. cantthinkofone
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4:58pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

J.P.M wrote:
Where did she grow-up.. Hedge End, or further afield?
I do so hope that wasn't a xenophobic statement.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Where did she grow-up.. Hedge End, or further afield?[/p][/quote]I do so hope that wasn't a xenophobic statement. Inform Al
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4:59pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
21 going on 69, with the mind of an 8 year old, ex police and special forces, and utterly full of ****.
You are sad.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: 21 going on 69, with the mind of an 8 year old, ex police and special forces, and utterly full of ****.[/p][/quote]You are sad. Inform Al
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5:07pm Sat 23 Feb 13

ohec says...

ac1947 wrote:
If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ?
I agree with your point but i think you must be somewhat deluded if you think we live in a democracy, if we lived in a democracy then our leaders would listen to the people,instead we are totally ignored not just on the E.U. referendum but on all manner of things. Even gay marriage was forced through against the majority of M.Ps wishes let alone the wider public,Labour / Conservatives / LibDems all want to stay in Europe but my understanding is that the majority want out but we are denied a referendum oh yes Mr U turn Cameron says we can have one after 2015 until he decides to change his mind if indeed he should happen to be in power. Lets be honest this country is finished what was once known as Great Britain is no more and never will be what it once was we are destined to become a suburb of Europe and a lowly one at that, U.K.I.P voters are loyalist people that believe this country still has a chance to be Great again how can anybody say that is wrong.
What is the point in us having parliament 600+ M.Ps not to mention the house of Lords if we are being ruled by Brussels, I voted to have a trade agreement with Europe not to be dictated too by them. Thousands of men and women died for their country and us so that we could live our lives as we wished were their lives lost in vain ?
[quote][p][bold]ac1947[/bold] wrote: If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ?[/p][/quote]I agree with your point but i think you must be somewhat deluded if you think we live in a democracy, if we lived in a democracy then our leaders would listen to the people,instead we are totally ignored not just on the E.U. referendum but on all manner of things. Even gay marriage was forced through against the majority of M.Ps wishes let alone the wider public,Labour / Conservatives / LibDems all want to stay in Europe but my understanding is that the majority want out but we are denied a referendum oh yes Mr U turn Cameron says we can have one after 2015 until he decides to change his mind if indeed he should happen to be in power. Lets be honest this country is finished what was once known as Great Britain is no more and never will be what it once was we are destined to become a suburb of Europe and a lowly one at that, U.K.I.P voters are loyalist people that believe this country still has a chance to be Great again how can anybody say that is wrong. What is the point in us having parliament 600+ M.Ps not to mention the house of Lords if we are being ruled by Brussels, I voted to have a trade agreement with Europe not to be dictated too by them. Thousands of men and women died for their country and us so that we could live our lives as we wished were their lives lost in vain ? ohec
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5:20pm Sat 23 Feb 13

derek james says...

the woman's even more deluded than the genderless freefinker, he's already reneged on one referendum and he'll do it again
the woman's even more deluded than the genderless freefinker, he's already reneged on one referendum and he'll do it again derek james
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5:39pm Sat 23 Feb 13

ac1947 says...

ohec wrote:
ac1947 wrote:
If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ?
I agree with your point but i think you must be somewhat deluded if you think we live in a democracy, if we lived in a democracy then our leaders would listen to the people,instead we are totally ignored not just on the E.U. referendum but on all manner of things. Even gay marriage was forced through against the majority of M.Ps wishes let alone the wider public,Labour / Conservatives / LibDems all want to stay in Europe but my understanding is that the majority want out but we are denied a referendum oh yes Mr U turn Cameron says we can have one after 2015 until he decides to change his mind if indeed he should happen to be in power. Lets be honest this country is finished what was once known as Great Britain is no more and never will be what it once was we are destined to become a suburb of Europe and a lowly one at that, U.K.I.P voters are loyalist people that believe this country still has a chance to be Great again how can anybody say that is wrong.
What is the point in us having parliament 600+ M.Ps not to mention the house of Lords if we are being ruled by Brussels, I voted to have a trade agreement with Europe not to be dictated too by them. Thousands of men and women died for their country and us so that we could live our lives as we wished were their lives lost in vain ?
ohec.... you are right in almost everything you state and I agree with all you say. Except that is "I am not deluded" just very cynical. Regards
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ac1947[/bold] wrote: If she was elected as a UKIP representative but now supports the conservative view, then surely she must resign her seat. Afterall it was members of an opposing view that elected her, and as they had the majority, it is that group that should be heard in Europe. Is that not our practise with democracy ?[/p][/quote]I agree with your point but i think you must be somewhat deluded if you think we live in a democracy, if we lived in a democracy then our leaders would listen to the people,instead we are totally ignored not just on the E.U. referendum but on all manner of things. Even gay marriage was forced through against the majority of M.Ps wishes let alone the wider public,Labour / Conservatives / LibDems all want to stay in Europe but my understanding is that the majority want out but we are denied a referendum oh yes Mr U turn Cameron says we can have one after 2015 until he decides to change his mind if indeed he should happen to be in power. Lets be honest this country is finished what was once known as Great Britain is no more and never will be what it once was we are destined to become a suburb of Europe and a lowly one at that, U.K.I.P voters are loyalist people that believe this country still has a chance to be Great again how can anybody say that is wrong. What is the point in us having parliament 600+ M.Ps not to mention the house of Lords if we are being ruled by Brussels, I voted to have a trade agreement with Europe not to be dictated too by them. Thousands of men and women died for their country and us so that we could live our lives as we wished were their lives lost in vain ?[/p][/quote]ohec.... you are right in almost everything you state and I agree with all you say. Except that is "I am not deluded" just very cynical. Regards ac1947
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5:41pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

derek james wrote:
the woman's even more deluded than the genderless freefinker, he's already reneged on one referendum and he'll do it again
Apparently you are not supposed to post common sense on this site. so please refrain.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: the woman's even more deluded than the genderless freefinker, he's already reneged on one referendum and he'll do it again[/p][/quote]Apparently you are not supposed to post common sense on this site. so please refrain. Inform Al
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5:49pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her.
Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
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6:13pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

J.P.M wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham
wrote:
Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her.
jimmy@savillesrow.co

n
You've got it wrong again, when La de dah said 'her' he was clearly referring to Marta, a woman. You seem to have a fixation on perverts, is there something you're not telling us?
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her.[/p][/quote]jimmy@savillesrow.co n[/p][/quote]You've got it wrong again, when La de dah said 'her' he was clearly referring to Marta, a woman. You seem to have a fixation on perverts, is there something you're not telling us? Inform Al
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7:14pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Dr.Mic says...

J.P.M wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G



raham
wrote:
Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her.
jimmy@savillesrow.co



n
You've got it wrong again, when La de dah said 'her' he was clearly referring to Marta, a woman. You seem to have a fixation on perverts, is there something you're not telling us?
3 things actually

1. it is a man - the name jimmy is a give-away
2. Yes I don't lke pervs
3. I finish work at 19:00 - gooodnight.
Quick - she has gone - lets see what's in the tuck box!
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know this gullible turncoat's email address? I have a bridge I'd like to sell her.[/p][/quote]jimmy@savillesrow.co n[/p][/quote]You've got it wrong again, when La de dah said 'her' he was clearly referring to Marta, a woman. You seem to have a fixation on perverts, is there something you're not telling us?[/p][/quote]3 things actually 1. it is a man - the name jimmy is a give-away 2. Yes I don't lke pervs 3. I finish work at 19:00 - gooodnight.[/p][/quote]Quick - she has gone - lets see what's in the tuck box! Dr.Mic
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7:18pm Sat 23 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.
The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote. OSPREYSAINT
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7:47pm Sat 23 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

Inform Al wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
informal is 8 years old
Actually 21 going on 69 so as usual your post is cr4p
How do we know? You could be a friendless teenage boy sat at his computer with his trousers round his ankles; we all could be...

Unless you're willing to give out your real name and other details? Though if you were that would make you even more of an idiot than you already appear.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: informal is 8 years old[/p][/quote]Actually 21 going on 69 so as usual your post is cr4p[/p][/quote]How do we know? You could be a friendless teenage boy sat at his computer with his trousers round his ankles; we all could be... Unless you're willing to give out your real name and other details? Though if you were that would make you even more of an idiot than you already appear. kingnotail
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8:41pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Dr.Mic says...

This thread is pathetic.
It is like a bunch of teenage boys on cider who want a fight - but don't have enough alcohol yet - so sad.
This thread is pathetic. It is like a bunch of teenage boys on cider who want a fight - but don't have enough alcohol yet - so sad. Dr.Mic
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10:17pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.
That'll be a sympathy vote then
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.[/p][/quote]That'll be a sympathy vote then Inform Al
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10:19pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Dr.Mic wrote:
This thread is pathetic.
It is like a bunch of teenage boys on cider who want a fight - but don't have enough alcohol yet - so sad.
Actually I thought the reverse possibly applied about the amount consumed, but you're right its very childish.
[quote][p][bold]Dr.Mic[/bold] wrote: This thread is pathetic. It is like a bunch of teenage boys on cider who want a fight - but don't have enough alcohol yet - so sad.[/p][/quote]Actually I thought the reverse possibly applied about the amount consumed, but you're right its very childish. Inform Al
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7:58am Sun 24 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Inform Al wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.
That'll be a sympathy vote then
The Labour bloke is a Fulham supporter and the Tory prefers Rugby.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.[/p][/quote]That'll be a sympathy vote then[/p][/quote]The Labour bloke is a Fulham supporter and the Tory prefers Rugby. OSPREYSAINT
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8:16am Sun 24 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Inform Al wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.
That'll be a sympathy vote then
Any Vote is a good one. The CD candidate also supports the Saints but not the football club.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The Lib-Dem man says he is a Saints supporter, that's worth a vote.[/p][/quote]That'll be a sympathy vote then[/p][/quote]Any Vote is a good one. The CD candidate also supports the Saints but not the football club. OSPREYSAINT
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9:06am Sun 24 Feb 13

loosehead says...

Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party.
the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign!
I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign.
I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign
Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party. the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign! I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign. I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign loosehead
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4:44pm Sun 24 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP.
There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP. LancashireLad
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5:28pm Sun 24 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

When the Tory MEPs are wiped from the board in 2014 by UKIP in the South Marta that will be the end of your trips to Brussels.
When the Tory MEPs are wiped from the board in 2014 by UKIP in the South Marta that will be the end of your trips to Brussels. LancashireLad
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7:43pm Sun 24 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

LancashireLad wrote:
There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP.
Or don't, and preserve your self-respect and integrity.
[quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]Or don't, and preserve your self-respect and integrity. cantthinkofone
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11:14pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
LancashireLad wrote:
There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP.
Or don't, and preserve your self-respect and integrity.
Or do and help restore the nation's respect and dignity.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: There is still all to play for in the Eastleigh by-election with Sundays latest poll showing the following: Conservative ( other liberals) 31%, LibDems 29% ( only 8% nationaly), UKIP 21% ( 15% nationaly) and New Labour 13%....so if you don't want one of the two liberal parties ( liberal coalition ) to win in Eastleigh and you don't want to waste your vote on PC New Labour then vote for probably the best candidate standing; who represents people from all backgrounds and all ages, vote for Diane James and the UK Independence Party. Make history in Eastleigh and vote for the only party that will give the UK hope for the future and say it as it is, vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]Or don't, and preserve your self-respect and integrity.[/p][/quote]Or do and help restore the nation's respect and dignity. Inform Al
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10:00am Mon 25 Feb 13

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party.
the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign!
I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign.
I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign
Loose there is no Law or Ruling that they should resign when changing partys, even lo I personally think they should. What would be better if a person leaves a party then that party should replace them with another member from that party.
After all you are ment to voting on the policy and not the person.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party. the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign! I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign. I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign[/p][/quote]Loose there is no Law or Ruling that they should resign when changing partys, even lo I personally think they should. What would be better if a person leaves a party then that party should replace them with another member from that party. After all you are ment to voting on the policy and not the person. southy
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5:30pm Mon 25 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party.
the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign!
I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign.
I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign
Loose there is no Law or Ruling that they should resign when changing partys, even lo I personally think they should. What would be better if a person leaves a party then that party should replace them with another member from that party.
After all you are ment to voting on the policy and not the person.
"Supposed to be" yes southy. But we all know the reality.

Personally I'd like to see the party system abolished entirely. Rid us of the tribalism of oppositional politics, and have representatives ally themselves only on each issue in turn. Horse-trading serves no one well, and the party whip robs us of democratic representation.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Any MP/MEP who's elected as a member of a party should by law resign they're seat before joining another party. the electorate never voted for a Tory they voted for UKIP to represent them so if she no longer wants to be with UKIP resign! I'm a Tory but have always believed that we vote in a person because of the political party they're in so if they're no longer in that party then they were not elected so should resign. I'm not going to be a hypocrite & change my believes just because she joined my party she should resign[/p][/quote]Loose there is no Law or Ruling that they should resign when changing partys, even lo I personally think they should. What would be better if a person leaves a party then that party should replace them with another member from that party. After all you are ment to voting on the policy and not the person.[/p][/quote]"Supposed to be" yes southy. But we all know the reality. Personally I'd like to see the party system abolished entirely. Rid us of the tribalism of oppositional politics, and have representatives ally themselves only on each issue in turn. Horse-trading serves no one well, and the party whip robs us of democratic representation. cantthinkofone
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