The sex club run by Mistress Sarah in the home of a councillor

Councillor David Fuller

Mistress Sarah

The house used as a sex club

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Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

IT IS the last thing you would expect to find in the heart of a bustling town.

Popular with young families and elderly couples alike, this busy Hampshire street appears to be the perfect place to live.

With primary schools, a college, churches, a train station and a care home all within walking distance, it has almost everything you could wish for right on your doorstep.

But the Daily Echo can reveal that the road is also home to a sex club – run from the spacious home of a top Hampshire councillor.

Now an investigation has been launched by council chiefs into the premises – and the behaviour of the councillor.

Last night residents voiced their disgust at the club, while college staff and church leaders in the area also launched a furious backlash, after it emerged that party organisers encouraged visitors to use their private car parks rather than parking outside the house.

The revelation comes after “kinky hotel” Club Kiss was shut down by Southampton’s council chiefs in December, after hosting fetish nights in Woolston without planning permission.

The Daily Echo understands that similar parties, which are not illegal, have been held on a regular basis at the three-bedroom property on The Avenue, in Fareham, for around a year.

Daily Echo:

But the only sign of what goes on behind closed doors is a small notice stuck to the bay window, directing visitors to use a side entrance.

Yet behind the curtains, while neighbours settle down for a quiet Saturday night sat in front of the television, dozens of party-goers pile into the property to live out their sexual fantasies.

Scantily clad women of all ages wearing revealing tops, short skirts and lingerie are joined by men who largely come dressed for the occasion in black leather attire.

The doors open at 9pm for the 12- hour event – but it takes merely 90 minutes for the friendly chit chat among party goers to make way for whipping, beating and sexual games, featuring ropes, chains and even electrical equipment.

It is all part of the popular “MissUse” parties, which are held once a month at the home of Cllr David Fuller, below, – deputy chairman of Portsmouth City Council’s licensing committee and vice chairman of the authority’s planning committee.

 

Daily Echo:

Outside of his council work, where he is the Lib Dem representative for Fratton, Cllr Fuller also chairs the Fratton Community Association and runs the East Cosham House care home for the elderly.

Mistress Sarah, pictured outside the house below, and her partner, who goes by the name of Steve, charge a £15 entry fee per person at the venue as a “contribution” to soft drinks and a buffet.

They send out invitations to interested users via a social networking site for people who enjoy an “alternative lifestyle”.

Daily Echo:

 

The personal requests even encourage visitors to use the car parking facilities at Fareham College and St Philip Howard Church, in nearby Bishopsfield Road, to avoid clogging up the road and drawing unwanted suspicion from neighbours.

Nigel Duncan, principal at Fareham College, said: “We know absolutely nothing about these people.

“Our car park is locked at weekends, so they can’t use it and they certainly would not be welcome to.”

Inside the sex club - what our reporters saw

Father John Humphrey, from St Philip Howard Church said that their car park would usually be empty on a Saturday night.

But when our reporters visited the site, there were around a dozen vehicles using the private space.

Father John said: “I was totally unaware that this was going on. I don’t think it’s right that people should use private property without permission. It’s the equivalent of someone parking on your driveway.

“I haven’t got a comment on what they do in the house – they make their own moral decisions.

“But from our point of view it’s not right that these people are being told to use our car park. It’s an outrage.”

During the Daily Echo’s visit to the venue last month, Mistress Sarah told our reporters that she had been running swingers and fetish parties for 17 years.

This month’s party, which Mistress Sarah was due to host on Saturday, has been cancelled due to “problems with drainage” at the property.

When confronted by the Daily Echo last night, Cllr Fuller said: “I don’t do anything illegal, but I’d rather not carry on this conversation.”

 

Daily Echo:

 

Lib Dem leader of Portsmouth City Council, Cllr Gerald Vernon-Jackson, last night vowed to launch an investigation.

He told the Daily Echo: “This is the first I’ve heard of it. I will talk to Cllr Fuller and find out what has been going on.

“Until I have heard from him I do not want to make any further comment.”

Fareham Borough Council leader, Sean Woodward, said: “I was not aware of this at all. I can assure everyone that there are no clubs of this sort with planning consent operating in Fareham.

“Now that I know more about it, we can look into whether it requires planning consent and send in our planning officers.

“If it’s a club that people are paying to come to then I’m sure it would require some sort of planning permission, which we have definitely not granted.”

Cllr Woodward added: “If we find that the venue requires planning and licensing consent then obviously they can apply for it and the residents will have the chance to make their feelings known, but there have been no formal complaints about the club so far that I’m aware of.

“In the same way that we have a policy of no casinos in Fareham, this certainly sounds like something we would not want in the borough.”

Despite repeated attempts to contact Mistress Sarah yesterday, she refused to answer her mobile phone.

 

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9:14am Wed 6 Mar 13

Linesman says...

I wonder if this would have changed the Eastleigh voting pattern if this had been revealed last week.
I wonder if this would have changed the Eastleigh voting pattern if this had been revealed last week. Linesman
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9:38am Wed 6 Mar 13

owen_thesaints says...

"The Daily Echo understands that similar parties, which are not illegal,..."

So no story here unless you consider inconsiderate parking newsworthy?
"The Daily Echo understands that similar parties, which are not illegal,..." So no story here unless you consider inconsiderate parking newsworthy? owen_thesaints
  • Score: -1

9:59am Wed 6 Mar 13

Stillness says...

Well he is the "vice" chairman.
Well he is the "vice" chairman. Stillness
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10:55am Wed 6 Mar 13

bazzeroz says...

Just remember what happened to Milligan! Keep at it. Cheap oranges at Fareham market this week end.
Just remember what happened to Milligan! Keep at it. Cheap oranges at Fareham market this week end. bazzeroz
  • Score: 1

11:24am Wed 6 Mar 13

Bally_Hoo says...

Apparantly the local residents, were unaware of it's existence.

So not really much of a nuisance then, or there would already be complaints.

So, i have to ask what the problem really is, one resident the echo interviewed, said that they hoped it did not spread. Is it contagious?

Not sure what people are really afraid of. This sort of activity is not normally associated with drugs or criminal activity, it's different to prostitution in that respect.

How can the proximity of a college have any bearing, it's not like the students are being forced inside the house to engage in sex, the parties are probably outside college hours.

The real issue is that somone in authority appears to be involved, and if it is someone who preaches on moral values, then that would be hipocrisy.

It's that people are shocked to find others actually enjoy sex, maybe it's time we were a bit more open minded.
Apparantly the local residents, were unaware of it's existence. So not really much of a nuisance then, or there would already be complaints. So, i have to ask what the problem really is, one resident the echo interviewed, said that they hoped it did not spread. Is it contagious? Not sure what people are really afraid of. This sort of activity is not normally associated with drugs or criminal activity, it's different to prostitution in that respect. How can the proximity of a college have any bearing, it's not like the students are being forced inside the house to engage in sex, the parties are probably outside college hours. The real issue is that somone in authority appears to be involved, and if it is someone who preaches on moral values, then that would be hipocrisy. It's that people are shocked to find others actually enjoy sex, maybe it's time we were a bit more open minded. Bally_Hoo
  • Score: -1

12:11pm Wed 6 Mar 13

City Final says...

"But the only sign of what goes on behind closed doors is a small notice stuck to the bay window, directing visitors to use a side entrance. "

So what's the problem then?
"But the only sign of what goes on behind closed doors is a small notice stuck to the bay window, directing visitors to use a side entrance. " So what's the problem then? City Final
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12:16pm Wed 6 Mar 13

arthur dalyrimple says...

is he the geezer in the pvc mask?
is he the geezer in the pvc mask? arthur dalyrimple
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Has a life says...

Wow I'm so glad you see the need to ruin consenting adults fun.
Wow I'm so glad you see the need to ruin consenting adults fun. Has a life
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1:22pm Wed 6 Mar 13

-stiv- says...

There's nothing morally wrong about this assuming you don't disprove of sex between consenting adults.

Even the bl00dy vicar doesn't care!

Come on, admit it, bet you had a little Tugby over this one eh?
There's nothing morally wrong about this assuming you don't disprove of sex between consenting adults. Even the bl00dy vicar doesn't care! Come on, admit it, bet you had a little Tugby over this one eh? -stiv-
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2:33pm Wed 6 Mar 13

acid drop says...

Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is.
Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is. acid drop
  • Score: -1

2:48pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

acid drop wrote:
Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is.
There is a big problem here.

People in pub(l)ic office must maintain a level of decency in their provate life, WHICH ENSURES THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISED, OR HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO OTHERS FOR AN INDESCRETION.

Mixing with this pile of no-marks and deranged pervs is unlikely to be suitable.
[quote][p][bold]acid drop[/bold] wrote: Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is.[/p][/quote]There is a big problem here. People in pub(l)ic office must maintain a level of decency in their provate life, WHICH ENSURES THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISED, OR HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO OTHERS FOR AN INDESCRETION. Mixing with this pile of no-marks and deranged pervs is unlikely to be suitable. J.P.M
  • Score: 1

3:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Outside of the Box says...

I don't think the chief whip of the Council will be to cuffed about this, I wonder what he will do to mask his disappointment.
I don't think the chief whip of the Council will be to cuffed about this, I wonder what he will do to mask his disappointment. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 1

3:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13

bluehants says...

At least someone scores in Fratton :-(
At least someone scores in Fratton :-( bluehants
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3:38pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Northamboy says...

This annoys me as they closed down the Woolston one and I have now sorted out my bus pass to get to Fareham........ and they close that one!
This annoys me as they closed down the Woolston one and I have now sorted out my bus pass to get to Fareham........ and they close that one! Northamboy
  • Score: 1

3:50pm Wed 6 Mar 13

bobbyboy says...

So know one knew what was going on and Sean woodward needs to pop along to see if planning neds to be carried out and Veron-Jackson needs to go along and investigate along with Father John to make sure no sins are committed Why dont they just hold the next Full Council meeting and drag along our bunch of Labour tax fixers they might then just raise enough funds for another SLUSH FUND and leave us poor Sotonians alone for a while never know it could be a Green Experience for you all and cheaper than the 40 quid or so you are going to charge us poor blighters.
Dont forget to take Nigel he dont want to be left in the cold night air.
So know one knew what was going on and Sean woodward needs to pop along to see if planning neds to be carried out and Veron-Jackson needs to go along and investigate along with Father John to make sure no sins are committed Why dont they just hold the next Full Council meeting and drag along our bunch of Labour tax fixers they might then just raise enough funds for another SLUSH FUND and leave us poor Sotonians alone for a while never know it could be a Green Experience for you all and cheaper than the 40 quid or so you are going to charge us poor blighters. Dont forget to take Nigel he dont want to be left in the cold night air. bobbyboy
  • Score: 1

3:51pm Wed 6 Mar 13

george chivers says...

It is very encouraging to note that Cllr Fuller behaves in a manner which demonstrates he is totally in touch with the people he represents. And is not a typical politician who is any any way isolated from the every day activities of the majority of ordinary people.
It is very encouraging to note that Cllr Fuller behaves in a manner which demonstrates he is totally in touch with the people he represents. And is not a typical politician who is any any way isolated from the every day activities of the majority of ordinary people. george chivers
  • Score: 1

4:13pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Opinionated515 says...

What a load of rubbish.

Get a real news story and stop messing around with other people's fun.
What a load of rubbish. Get a real news story and stop messing around with other people's fun. Opinionated515
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4:37pm Wed 6 Mar 13

ameliaS says...

Not on his Declaration of interests but his Council web page is worth a read!
http://www.portsmout
h.gov.uk/yourcouncil
/1160.html
Not on his Declaration of interests but his Council web page is worth a read! http://www.portsmout h.gov.uk/yourcouncil /1160.html ameliaS
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5:10pm Wed 6 Mar 13

beiroot says...

Looks like the Libs have been outed again.Wonder if Mike Hanc**k is their best customer!
Looks like the Libs have been outed again.Wonder if Mike Hanc**k is their best customer! beiroot
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6:34pm Wed 6 Mar 13

chrisja says...

Actually Daily Echo you need to get your facts straight as swingers parties are NOT illegal in any way, shape or form. Pathetic reporting...
Actually Daily Echo you need to get your facts straight as swingers parties are NOT illegal in any way, shape or form. Pathetic reporting... chrisja
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6:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13

beiroot says...

ameliaS wrote:
Not on his Declaration of interests but his Council web page is worth a read!
http://www.portsmout

h.gov.uk/yourcouncil

/1160.html
Read it AmeliaS.Perhaps thats where they have their lodge meetings!
[quote][p][bold]ameliaS[/bold] wrote: Not on his Declaration of interests but his Council web page is worth a read! http://www.portsmout h.gov.uk/yourcouncil /1160.html[/p][/quote]Read it AmeliaS.Perhaps thats where they have their lodge meetings! beiroot
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7:17pm Wed 6 Mar 13

jon557 says...

Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too. jon557
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7:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
[quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason. J.P.M
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7:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Bally_Hoo says...

J.P.M wrote:
jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc.

And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.[/p][/quote]You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc. And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather. Bally_Hoo
  • Score: 1

7:49pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

Bally_Hoo wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc.

And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.
Agreed. Strange thing is: currying favours (giving and recieving) never gets them to the top. You cannot substitute hard work and ability with a slimy handshake and token gestures to cheritee.
[quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.[/p][/quote]You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc. And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Strange thing is: currying favours (giving and recieving) never gets them to the top. You cannot substitute hard work and ability with a slimy handshake and token gestures to cheritee. J.P.M
  • Score: 1

7:50pm Wed 6 Mar 13

arthur dalyrimple says...

Bally_Hoo wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc.

And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.
and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt.
[quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.[/p][/quote]You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc. And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.[/p][/quote]and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt. arthur dalyrimple
  • Score: 1

8:13pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Bally_Hoo wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc.

And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.
and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt.
How dare you - that is the queens husband you are referring to.
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.[/p][/quote]You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc. And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.[/p][/quote]and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt.[/p][/quote]How dare you - that is the queens husband you are referring to. J.P.M
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8:19pm Wed 6 Mar 13

magman says...

"But the only sign of what goes on behind closed doors is a small notice stuck to the bay window, directing visitors to use a side entrance."

So these parties have been going on in private and no locals have had any clue what's going on or complained about traffic, noise etc. Mistress Sarah says she's been holding parties for 17-18 yrs, took the Echo long enough to find out didn't it?

Who misses the News of the World when the Echo is around?
"But the only sign of what goes on behind closed doors is a small notice stuck to the bay window, directing visitors to use a side entrance." So these parties have been going on in private and no locals have had any clue what's going on or complained about traffic, noise etc. Mistress Sarah says she's been holding parties for 17-18 yrs, took the Echo long enough to find out didn't it? Who misses the News of the World when the Echo is around? magman
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8:20pm Wed 6 Mar 13

griffon says...

Obviously Lib Dems find politics very stressful and need to relax from time to time.There's will be the usual amnesia from the Liberal leadership
Obviously Lib Dems find politics very stressful and need to relax from time to time.There's will be the usual amnesia from the Liberal leadership griffon
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8:32pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Bally_Hoo wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
jon557 wrote:
Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.
Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.
You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc.

And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.
and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt.
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[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jon557[/bold] wrote: Who cares?! People can do what they want behind closed doors - it is not harming anyone. It is all consensual. It's not like it's paid for sex or drugs or anything. No one has known for years, how will a quiet party at 9pm impact the church or local schools? It won't at all! Who cares if the guy works for council, they are allowed private lives too.[/p][/quote]Yes they are allowed private lives...BUT do you really think that the sordid group will not contain just ONE bad apple. A bad apple who is looking for someone to manipulate - someone to help on planning matters - someone to get him off a parking ticket..and I don't just mean a mason.[/p][/quote]You don't need a sex club for that. Favours for freinds is rife already via the freemasons, the golf club, rotary etc etc. And before anyone has a go, I KNOW that the golf club, freemasons and rotary all give to charity, but still we also know that deals are done in such places where people with power gather.[/p][/quote]and more than a little satanism in the top echelons ,say,33rd degree and above , all part of the sad circus that is running the country into the dirt.[/p][/quote]Box J.P.M
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8:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13

WOOLSTONCHAP says...

Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!!
Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!! WOOLSTONCHAP
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8:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13

WOOLSTONCHAP says...

Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!!
Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!! WOOLSTONCHAP
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9:15pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

WOOLSTONCHAP wrote:
Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!!
You can say that again.....oh, you just did!
[quote][p][bold]WOOLSTONCHAP[/bold] wrote: Hang on !!!! consenting Adults having fun whatever next !!!![/p][/quote]You can say that again.....oh, you just did! J.P.M
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10:58pm Wed 6 Mar 13

J.P.M says...

Wot do you call a pig in a body-warmer??


Rich on tax-payers money!


Funny?

NO - NOT FUNNY, IT'S FACT
Wot do you call a pig in a body-warmer?? Rich on tax-payers money! Funny? NO - NOT FUNNY, IT'S FACT J.P.M
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6:40am Thu 7 Mar 13

Markmag says...

Complete Non-Story. How empty must Ian Murray's life be if he considers this newsworthy. No wonder the Southampton Echo is plummeting in the readership figures compared to the Bournemouth and Dorset papers.
Complete Non-Story. How empty must Ian Murray's life be if he considers this newsworthy. No wonder the Southampton Echo is plummeting in the readership figures compared to the Bournemouth and Dorset papers. Markmag
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3:34pm Thu 7 Mar 13

becksbeare says...

J.P.M wrote:
acid drop wrote: Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is.
There is a big problem here. People in pub(l)ic office must maintain a level of decency in their provate life, WHICH ENSURES THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISED, OR HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO OTHERS FOR AN INDESCRETION. Mixing with this pile of no-marks and deranged pervs is unlikely to be suitable.
People in public office are expected to behave with integrity and honesty etc. but what they do in their private lives is nothing to do with anyone else... If they are taking part in consentual relationships that don't conform to most peoples idea of the "norm" that still doesn't necessarily leave them open to blackmail etc. If they are open and honest with the people that matter, then blackmail is not possible!
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]acid drop[/bold] wrote: Shagging parties behind closed doors, cant see what the problem is.[/p][/quote]There is a big problem here. People in pub(l)ic office must maintain a level of decency in their provate life, WHICH ENSURES THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISED, OR HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO OTHERS FOR AN INDESCRETION. Mixing with this pile of no-marks and deranged pervs is unlikely to be suitable.[/p][/quote]People in public office are expected to behave with integrity and honesty etc. but what they do in their private lives is nothing to do with anyone else... If they are taking part in consentual relationships that don't conform to most peoples idea of the "norm" that still doesn't necessarily leave them open to blackmail etc. If they are open and honest with the people that matter, then blackmail is not possible! becksbeare
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2:54pm Fri 8 Mar 13

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Sounds like a normal night in The SWAN pub at woolston , guy s wearing leather !
Shame they dont serve lady s in Lingerie
Sounds like a normal night in The SWAN pub at woolston , guy s wearing leather ! Shame they dont serve lady s in Lingerie SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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11:53am Sat 16 Mar 13

023 says...

Not my thing, but good luck to them. Live and let live :-)
Not my thing, but good luck to them. Live and let live :-) 023
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4:52pm Mon 18 Mar 13

MattBB says...

"IT IS the last thing you would expect to find in the heart of a bustling town. "


Only if you lead an exceptionally sheltered existence.

Who wrote this article, the ghost of Mary Whitehouse?
"IT IS the last thing you would expect to find in the heart of a bustling town. " Only if you lead an exceptionally sheltered existence. Who wrote this article, the ghost of Mary Whitehouse? MattBB
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