Thousands of disabled drivers forced to pay for parking (From Daily Echo)

Paul Lucas wrote:
And . . . it's just one more way in which the disabled are being hit when this Conservative/Liberal democrat government effectively gave 8,000 Millionaires a £100,000 windfall with the reduction of the tax rate from 60% to 45%

And, it obviously does not affect you!

Paul Lucas wrote:
And . . . it's just one more way in which the disabled are being hit when this Conservative/Liberal democrat government effectively gave 8,000 Millionaires a £100,000 windfall with the reduction of the tax rate from 60% to 45% And, it obviously does not affect you!

****-Biker wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:
And . . . it's just one more way in which the disabled are being hit when this Conservative/Liberal democrat government effectively gave 8,000 Millionaires a £100,000 windfall with the reduction of the tax rate from 60% to 45% And, it obviously does not affect you!

You mean those poor people who have nearly new cars with government help via “The Motability Scheme” and get their own special car parking space which tend to blight many a communal car park

Nod wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:
And . . . it's just one more way in which the disabled are being hit when this Conservative/Liberal democrat government effectively gave 8,000 Millionaires a £100,000 windfall with the reduction of the tax rate from 60% to 45%

And, it obviously does not affect you!

oh fer petes sake. Who cares if they get extra money. Its been shown that the tax reduction will bring in extra tax revenue. and i d rather have the extra money in treasury coffers.

pavonine wrote:
Disability does not automatically imply poverty. Assess the finances of those claiming they cannot afford it and issue them with a blue badge stating they can have free parking - and keep the regular blue badge for everyone else. There is absolutely no reason not to pay if you can afford it. Disabled parking is for the physically disabled, it isn't a free parking scheme.

Paul Lucas wrote:

****-Biker wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote: And . . . it's just one more way in which the disabled are being hit when this Conservative/Liberal democrat government effectively gave 8,000 Millionaires a £100,000 windfall with the reduction of the tax rate from 60% to 45% And, it obviously does not affect you!

You mean those poor people who have nearly new cars with government help via “The Motability Scheme” and get their own special car parking space which tend to blight many a communal car park

The nearly new cars they ride around in, if you cared to look into it rather than commenting on something you know nothing about, are actually paid for from their mobility component of their Disabled Living Allowance - you know, the one this government are going to axe. Do you really, honestly resent a disabled person, who under the rules of being given a blue badge, cannot walk more than 200 metres, having a car parking space close to their destination? You so obviously have no-one in your family or circle of friends who is disabled and in need of these services and frankly I hope you never need to avail yourself of them. You might suddenly realise that maybe, just maybe these people do not have such a 'cushy' life.

SaintM wrote:
my father in lasw gets a disbled badge because he can not walk far not because of money and is happy to pay, its the govt at fault and my sister in law gets a FREE new car at our expense every 3 years as she is diagnosed incorrectly as disabkled but has no problem in walking etc just working the lazy sod so we have to pay for her beer and fags

rightway wrote:
Lets hope the rest of the country follows suit.
Of coarse there should be special parking bays for the disabled but why should they be free.
How many times has anyone seen a genuine disabled person get out of car displaying a blue badge, the vast majority are more than capable of getting around, all they are doing is fleecing a system in need of a major overhaul. And when they decide to block the roads by parking on yellow lines lets hope the council has the good sense to tow them away. Lets see how well they move when chasing the tow truck.

ac1947 wrote:
About time they paid. As previoiusly mentioned it is the most abused system known.Not only do disabled let others use their permits, but how many times do we see a "disabled" person get out of their car and walk for miles in supermarkets,town centres and car boot sales. By the way.. do you notice how many people driver 4X4s and I've lost count of the new cars displaying the badges.

taxi driver in southampton wrote:
My parents are both disabled and rely on the car to get them out and about.
I agree they should pay for parking why should they get it for free,

I've seen many disabled drivers park their car and then walk miles around the city centre shopping etc so some and I do say some do not really need a disabled parking space.

Pay like us all

rightway wrote:
Lets hope the rest of the country follows suit. Of coarse there should be special parking bays for the disabled but why should they be free. How many times has anyone seen a genuine disabled person get out of car displaying a blue badge, the vast majority are more than capable of getting around, all they are doing is fleecing a system in need of a major overhaul. And when they decide to block the roads by parking on yellow lines lets hope the council has the good sense to tow them away. Lets see how well they move when chasing the tow truck.

Very biased wrote:
The system is very abused by the so called disabled, as is the whole benefit system. I know of whole families who use the cards. Just visit your local ASDA or any other supermarket and watch them.

Paul Lucas wrote:
"""and I've lost count of the new cars displaying the badges.""

The cars are leased - Disabled pay up to £240 a month for a RELIABLE vehicle.

Why are people so ignorant of the facts and yet so quick to criticise and 'bash the disabled'?

Very biased wrote:
The system is very abused by the so called disabled, as is the whole benefit system. I know of whole families who use the cards. Just visit your local ASDA or any other supermarket and watch them.

Forest Resident wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:
"""and I've lost count of the new cars displaying the badges.""

The cars are leased - Disabled pay up to £240 a month for a RELIABLE vehicle.

Why are people so ignorant of the facts and yet so quick to criticise and 'bash the disabled'?

I am led to believe the amount of money they 'pay' to lease a new car is no more than just sacrificing the motability allowance of their benefits, in other words they are NOT paying for it the struggling working tax payers are! If we truly are 'all in this together' then EVERYONE should be feeling the squeeze.

memush wrote:
Not before time. Christchurch have been charging for a long time.

Paul Lucas wrote:

Very biased wrote:
The system is very abused by the so called disabled, as is the whole benefit system. I know of whole families who use the cards. Just visit your local ASDA or any other supermarket and watch them.

and you have a very apt username -- Very biased toward disabled. Not just free car parking for you - the whole benefit system!

If, as you say, whole families are using Blue Badges, it may well be that just one of that entourage IS actually disabled. What would you have them do - drop off the able bodied then park in the disabled bay?

I'd hazard a guess that you're in a fairly well paid job, 2.2 children, semi detached and a Tory voter - Don't believe the rhetoric.

Linesman wrote:
Interesting to read the comments made by people who, if questioned, would probably claim to be caring, considerate people.

I have yet to meet a Genuine (as opposed one who has bought one) Blue Badge holder who would prefer to be fully fit instead of needing a badge.

lyn, wrote:
Interesting to read the comments made by people who, if questioned, would probably claim to be caring, considerate people.

I have yet to meet a Genuine (as opposed one who has bought one) Blue Badge holder who would prefer to be fully fit instead of needing a badge.


I have MS and have a Motability car and a Blue badge.

I would happily explain to you why I would give the badge and the car up if you would like to take my MS away!

It is a miserable life to have to be dependent on others.

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

eurogordi wrote:
Of course disabled drivers should pay to park. Disabled spaces were designed for convenience (ie. near shops etc) and not for disable drivers to avoid paying charges. I work full time and am struggling to make ends meet ... why should others be treated different? Equality works both ways after all!

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

Get back into the testwood club - NOW

Paul Lucas wrote:

eurogordi wrote:
Of course disabled drivers should pay to park. Disabled spaces were designed for convenience (ie. near shops etc) and not for disable drivers to avoid paying charges. I work full time and am struggling to make ends meet ... why should others be treated different? Equality works both ways after all!

I think it's great that you work full time. I would hazard a guess that most disabled people would like the opportunity to work full time also and to struggle as you do.

Instead, most are forced to accept handouts from the government without any prospect of earning any extra money as in 'overtime' to help alleviate their financial problems and are basically destined for a life on benefits and the breadline. I suppose they can look forward to a £2 or possibly, at the very outside, £3 a year rise in their benefits though.

I refer you to the tax breaks for the wealthy if you think "we're all in this together". The disabled are getting a very rough ride from this government with it's welfare reforms, which admittedly needs doing in certain areas but car parking? Thin edge of the wedge - what's next?

geoff51 wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

Get back into the testwood club - NOW

What are you babbling on about I have not drunk Alcohol for 40 years and if that is the best comment you can come upwith on an important subject I suggest you Keep it Shut!

cjm1966 wrote:
I have a Disabled (blue) badge since suffering a brain tumor, I try not to park on yellow lines unless a real emergency and yes I use disabled bays as I now have sight and walking problems but I have no problem with paying we pay at hospitals like everyone and some off road car parks

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

Get back into the testwood club - NOW

What are you babbling on about I have not drunk Alcohol for 40 years and if that is the best comment you can come upwith on an important subject I suggest you Keep it Shut!

Wrong--I have seen you dancing around in the Elephant & Castle, but only since the Red Lion got torched. So don't give me the old "holier than thou" nonsense.. I know what your game is.

geoff51 wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

Get back into the testwood club - NOW

What are you babbling on about I have not drunk Alcohol for 40 years and if that is the best comment you can come upwith on an important subject I suggest you Keep it Shut!

Wrong--I have seen you dancing around in the Elephant & Castle, but only since the Red Lion got torched. So don't give me the old "holier than thou" nonsense.. I know what your game is.

IDIOT!

J.P.M wrote:

cjm1966 wrote:
I have a Disabled (blue) badge since suffering a brain tumor, I try not to park on yellow lines unless a real emergency and yes I use disabled bays as I now have sight and walking problems but I have no problem with paying we pay at hospitals like everyone and some off road car parks

How do you drive - with sight problems??

Scatgirl wrote:
someone with a chronic and debilitating illness such as crohns disease may be able to get a blue badge. however, they would look entirely 'normal' to any on lookers when getting out of their car. not all 'disabilities' are obvious.

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

geoff51 wrote:

Scatgirl wrote:
someone with a chronic and debilitating illness such as crohns disease may be able to get a blue badge. however, they would look entirely 'normal' to any on lookers when getting out of their car. not all 'disabilities' are obvious.

Crohns disease does not entitle you to a Blue badge as it does not prevent you from walking the prescribe distance for the badge.

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

JPM are you hot?

Scatgirl wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Scatgirl wrote:
someone with a chronic and debilitating illness such as crohns disease may be able to get a blue badge. however, they would look entirely 'normal' to any on lookers when getting out of their car. not all 'disabilities' are obvious.

Crohns disease does not entitle you to a Blue badge as it does not prevent you from walking the prescribe distance for the badge.

you are wrong.

geoff51 wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

In that case you should be bloody asamed of your comments which I have reported to the administrators!

J.P.M wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

JPM are you hot?

what is your definition of HOT?
Or are you another drunk poster who got rejected at reflex?

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

JPM are you hot?

what is your definition of HOT?
Or are you another drunk poster who got rejected at reflex?

What's reflex?

J.P.M wrote:

cjm1966 wrote:
I have a Disabled (blue) badge since suffering a brain tumor, I try not to park on yellow lines unless a real emergency and yes I use disabled bays as I now have sight and walking problems but I have no problem with paying we pay at hospitals like everyone and some off road car parks

How do you drive - with sight problems??

J.P.M wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
JPM whoever you are, you Sir are a heartless piece of work who should not be allowed to pass any opinion on the needs and problems of disability.
You should return to your Council house, sit in front of your plasmaTV with your Fags and Beer and claim your benefits.
Before you say I am making assumptions of your lifestyle you should stop doing the same to other posters and thank the fates that you will never need the use of disability consessions

Jeffers

1. I am not a sir, I am female
2. I may have a blue badge - how is that relevant
3. You DID dance in the Elephant & Castle, or was it the Con club at the roundabout----I can't remember where that embarrasing spectacle took place.
4. goodnight balldy

JPM are you hot?

what is your definition of HOT?
Or are you another drunk poster who got rejected at reflex?

What's reflex?

Ha Ha - Now I know who you are - and why you don't really like familiarity. See you at the testwood chef on Friday night.


Wots the testwood chef??

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

LeTissiersEarLobe wrote:
Good, best news all day, why shouldn't they pay !!!!!? So many free government handouts make everyone else sick..... They should do the same everywhere... We have the highest % claiming incapacity benefit of every country in the world ! They've taken us for a ride for too long now ! Well done Tories

max1well wrote:
i dont normally comment on here but a first for everything..
I do not have an issue with Blue Badge holders & am all for then having more accessible parking but do think it is worng that they dont pay...I work with disabled people who actually earn more money than me so where is the justification in me having to pay when they dont? an unemployed person on benefits would have to pay to park so why should a working person be exempt?? the issue i think most people have is not the disabled space itself, more the payment side..as a mum i frequently struggle & would not dream of parking in a disabled bay but quite often see blue badge holders park in mother/child bays when there are free disabled bays? why? & to the person who says we mums are lazy...have you tried getting a carseat with a baby in it out of a car in a normal sized space whilst making sure your toddler does not run off?

southy wrote:
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Paul Lucas wrote:

max1well wrote: i dont normally comment on here but a first for everything.. I do not have an issue with Blue Badge holders & am all for then having more accessible parking but do think it is worng that they dont pay...I work with disabled people who actually earn more money than me so where is the justification in me having to pay when they dont? an unemployed person on benefits would have to pay to park so why should a working person be exempt?? the issue i think most people have is not the disabled space itself, more the payment side..as a mum i frequently struggle & would not dream of parking in a disabled bay but quite often see blue badge holders park in mother/child bays when there are free disabled bays? why? & to the person who says we mums are lazy...have you tried getting a carseat with a baby in it out of a car in a normal sized space whilst making sure your toddler does not run off?

Some really good points but seriously, a disabled person gets "paid" more than you? How's that? Disabled & Mother & baby bays are made wider so doors on cars can be opened fully - but the reason for that would be lost on the people who's perception of the disabled has been twisted so badly by this divisive government. "Bash the disabled" - turn the "hard working taxpayer"against the disabled and those claiming benefits so they can drive through these horrendous welfare changes without society challenging them. SHAME ON YOU NFDC!

****-Biker wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:

max1well wrote: i dont normally comment on here but a first for everything.. I do not have an issue with Blue Badge holders & am all for then having more accessible parking but do think it is worng that they dont pay...I work with disabled people who actually earn more money than me so where is the justification in me having to pay when they dont? an unemployed person on benefits would have to pay to park so why should a working person be exempt?? the issue i think most people have is not the disabled space itself, more the payment side..as a mum i frequently struggle & would not dream of parking in a disabled bay but quite often see blue badge holders park in mother/child bays when there are free disabled bays? why? & to the person who says we mums are lazy...have you tried getting a carseat with a baby in it out of a car in a normal sized space whilst making sure your toddler does not run off?

Some really good points but seriously, a disabled person gets "paid" more than you? How's that? Disabled & Mother & baby bays are made wider so doors on cars can be opened fully - but the reason for that would be lost on the people who's perception of the disabled has been twisted so badly by this divisive government. "Bash the disabled" - turn the "hard working taxpayer"against the disabled and those claiming benefits so they can drive through these horrendous welfare changes without society challenging them. SHAME ON YOU NFDC!

“- a disabled person gets "paid" more than you? How's that?”

Well Paul let me enlighten you, there are some disabled people in this city of ours who get £200+ in benefits every week (some may get more) for this they don’t have to pay for food, heating and rent, In effect £200 spending money in their hands every week so I am sure you have to be in a fairly well paid job in order to have £200 ‘spare’ every week .

****-Biker wrote:
Incapacity benefit

Paul Lucas wrote:

Forest Resident wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:
"""and I've lost count of the new cars displaying the badges.""

The cars are leased - Disabled pay up to £240 a month for a RELIABLE vehicle.

Why are people so ignorant of the facts and yet so quick to criticise and 'bash the disabled'?

I am led to believe the amount of money they 'pay' to lease a new car is no more than just sacrificing the motability allowance of their benefits, in other words they are NOT paying for it the struggling working tax payers are! If we truly are 'all in this together' then EVERYONE should be feeling the squeeze.

The Motability component is for 'help with getting around'. It's paid because disabled people have specialist needs in transport.

If they forgo their Motability component then they are PAYING for it - they don't get it back. They are not buying a stake in that vehicle. They still have to find the money to fuel the car.

Please, take a look at the MOTABILITY Website

I agree, if we are all in this TOGETHER, why give 8,000 millionaires a tax break and refund of £100,000? Much easier to 'bash the disabled' obviously!

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
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bc

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So you can quote URL's when you want to; just never when asked to.

ohec wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:

Forest Resident wrote:

Paul Lucas wrote:
"""and I've lost count of the new cars displaying the badges.""

The cars are leased - Disabled pay up to £240 a month for a RELIABLE vehicle.

Why are people so ignorant of the facts and yet so quick to criticise and 'bash the disabled'?

I am led to believe the amount of money they 'pay' to lease a new car is no more than just sacrificing the motability allowance of their benefits, in other words they are NOT paying for it the struggling working tax payers are! If we truly are 'all in this together' then EVERYONE should be feeling the squeeze.

The Motability component is for 'help with getting around'. It's paid because disabled people have specialist needs in transport.

If they forgo their Motability component then they are PAYING for it - they don't get it back. They are not buying a stake in that vehicle. They still have to find the money to fuel the car.

Please, take a look at the MOTABILITY Website

I agree, if we are all in this TOGETHER, why give 8,000 millionaires a tax break and refund of £100,000? Much easier to 'bash the disabled' obviously!

Yes please take a look at the Motability scheme and you will see that all that is required from the so-called disabled person is to hand over the portion of their benefit paid for mobility and they get their FREE car with all expenses covered all they have to pay for is fuel, when you have done that then go and look to see how you qualify for the higher rate of benefit and you will get a shock because according to the rules you have to be half dead to qualify?? do all of those people running around town look half dead to you.
I have every sympathy for those that genuinely deserve their allowance but in my opinion that rules out 75% of users who are not entitled to the higher rate, i can't wait for the PIP scheme to start sorting the wheat from the chaff and we will then see a big reduction in nice new shiny cars paid for by the taxpayer.

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted. You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits. My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity. Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

thinklikealocal wrote:
I am very supportive of disabled people receiving additional benefits to help with the additional costs of being disabled. That would include priority parking spaces and free parking. The problem is, a lot of people are accessing benefits that they are not really entitled to, or, at a higher level than they should be. That is why the notion of disabled benefits have lost support to a degree amongst many citizens.

So, lets support the notion of weeding out the 'exagerators, spongers and work shy' from those receiveing disabled benefits and then we can all get back to the notion of supporting the payment of disability benefits.

And, while we're on the subject, yes, many people who are disabled falsely exagerate their condition to try and qualify for the highest mobility element of DLA with the express intention of qualifying for a Mobility Car. It is a sad reality.

J.P.M wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

Get back into the testwood club - NOW

Paul Lucas wrote:

thinklikealocal wrote:
I am very supportive of disabled people receiving additional benefits to help with the additional costs of being disabled. That would include priority parking spaces and free parking. The problem is, a lot of people are accessing benefits that they are not really entitled to, or, at a higher level than they should be. That is why the notion of disabled benefits have lost support to a degree amongst many citizens.

So, lets support the notion of weeding out the 'exagerators, spongers and work shy' from those receiveing disabled benefits and then we can all get back to the notion of supporting the payment of disability benefits.

And, while we're on the subject, yes, many people who are disabled falsely exagerate their condition to try and qualify for the highest mobility element of DLA with the express intention of qualifying for a Mobility Car. It is a sad reality.

Excellent, balanced and informed view at last. Well done and thank you for this post.

Paul Lucas wrote:

thinklikealocal wrote:
I am very supportive of disabled people receiving additional benefits to help with the additional costs of being disabled. That would include priority parking spaces and free parking. The problem is, a lot of people are accessing benefits that they are not really entitled to, or, at a higher level than they should be. That is why the notion of disabled benefits have lost support to a degree amongst many citizens.

So, lets support the notion of weeding out the 'exagerators, spongers and work shy' from those receiveing disabled benefits and then we can all get back to the notion of supporting the payment of disability benefits.

And, while we're on the subject, yes, many people who are disabled falsely exagerate their condition to try and qualify for the highest mobility element of DLA with the express intention of qualifying for a Mobility Car. It is a sad reality.

Excellent, balanced and informed view at last. Well done and thank you for this post.

stag666 wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
For all you miserable people that begrudge the concessions that are made for the genuine recipients, I suggest you change places with them and spend your life struggling to acheive what you as an able bodied person take for granted.
You notice that I say genuine recipients of blue badges as there are many dishonest holders of badges as there are recipients of disability benefits.
My pet hate is Mother and Baby Parking spaces at supermarkets, why just having children prevents you from using ordinary spaces i dont know, maybe if you and you offsping walked a bit more then there would not be so much obesity.
Remember you choose to have children but you dont choose to be disabled.

what a ridiculous comment.

Paul Lucas wrote:

max1well wrote:
i dont normally comment on here but a first for everything..
I do not have an issue with Blue Badge holders & am all for then having more accessible parking but do think it is worng that they dont pay...I work with disabled people who actually earn more money than me so where is the justification in me having to pay when they dont? an unemployed person on benefits would have to pay to park so why should a working person be exempt?? the issue i think most people have is not the disabled space itself, more the payment side..as a mum i frequently struggle & would not dream of parking in a disabled bay but quite often see blue badge holders park in mother/child bays when there are free disabled bays? why? & to the person who says we mums are lazy...have you tried getting a carseat with a baby in it out of a car in a normal sized space whilst making sure your toddler does not run off?

Some really good points but seriously, a disabled person gets "paid" more than you? How's that?

Disabled & Mother & baby bays are made wider so doors on cars can be opened fully - but the reason for that would be lost on the people who's perception of the disabled has been twisted so badly by this divisive government. "Bash the disabled" - turn the "hard working taxpayer"against the disabled and those claiming benefits so they can drive through these horrendous welfare changes without society challenging them.

SHAME ON YOU NFDC!

Tony S wrote:

****-Biker wrote: Incapacity benefit

Incapacity benifit no longer exists and has been replaced by Employment Support Allowance. If yoiu have paid your NI. You can get it for 1 year. Then it is means tested.

Paul Lucas wrote:

rightway wrote:
Lets hope the rest of the country follows suit.
Of coarse there should be special parking bays for the disabled but why should they be free.
How many times has anyone seen a genuine disabled person get out of car displaying a blue badge, the vast majority are more than capable of getting around, all they are doing is fleecing a system in need of a major overhaul. And when they decide to block the roads by parking on yellow lines lets hope the council has the good sense to tow them away. Lets see how well they move when chasing the tow truck.

You sir, have no knowledge of what it is like for the disabled in this country.

There are hidden disabilities - heart complaints, angina, blood disorders, brain tumours etc etc. Not everybody is in a wheelchair.

I think your last comment is ill thought out and indicative of someone who, again, doesn't have anyone in their family or circle of friends who has a disability - I hope, for your sake, that it stays that way.