City in Euro smog alert (From Daily Echo)

So when were people with lung and heart problems advised to reduce their outdooe activities? Seems like another lack of communication.

Bloody marvellous! We are constantly being bleated at to buy ridiculous "Euro" emission compliant cars, the EU spend all our money thinking up new stealth taxes in the name of "green" initiatives. And all of this time their air is dirtier than ours! Or is somebody else lying this time?

mercrocker wrote:
Bloody marvellous! We are constantly being bleated at to buy ridiculous "Euro" emission compliant cars, the EU spend all our money thinking up new stealth taxes in the name of "green" initiatives. And all of this time their air is dirtier than ours! Or is somebody else lying this time?

I think you simply misunderstand "weather". High pressure sat over the north sea is always going to put as at risk of this. Their air is not "dirtier", it just got blown this way by strong winds before it had time to disipate..

The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

All I know is my car got covered in a dusty residue, not happy to think I'm breathing it in....

This is a worry as my daughter, brother and myself all have asthma.

southy wrote:
The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

So why is it the meter readings for air pollution in Southampton disagree with you, Could it be a plot by the NWO what is your excuse this time? for those who would like it here is the address where you can check.

http://www.hantsair.
org.uk/hampshire/asp
/Bulletin.asp?la=Sou
thampton&bulletin=da
ily&site=SH4&bulleti
ndate=06/03/2013

It don't disagree with me, its pointing to want I am saying, poor air quality slowly moving down the valley sides to the lower parts. look at the one in the River located on the Bridge across the river test "Red 9"
Millbrook road no data

And there was me thinking we were all breathing pure alpine air.

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

So why is it the meter readings for air pollution in Southampton disagree with you, Could it be a plot by the NWO what is your excuse this time? for those who would like it here is the address where you can check.

http://www.hantsair.

org.uk/hampshire/asp

/Bulletin.asp?la=Sou

thampton&bulleti
n=da
ily&site=SH4&amp
;bulleti
ndate=06/03/2013

Those reptilians again!? God dam lizards!!!

The pollution caused by the mass switch from petrol to diesel is currently being examined in the UK Supreme Court. "Pollution from road traffic, particularly diesel fumes, is the most significant cause of poor air quality in most cities. The pollutants of most concern are tiny airborne particles, "PM10s", and nitrogen dioxide." Bigger population = more vehicles = more pollution.

Here we go, another flimsy story to justify hiking the price of fuel or raising more money from people under the guise of the climate change charade.

why havent the bbc covered this on news bulletins if so serious?

Maine Lobster wrote:
Here we go, another flimsy story to justify hiking the price of fuel or raising more money from people under the guise of the climate change charade.

Look to a group calling themselves ClientEarth for banging the drum on this one but the UK Government is in breech of EU legislation and diesel vehicles will now be under the microscope. Inevitably the owners of diesel powered vehicles will suffer from any change in legislation.

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If it is coming from an Easterly direction and smells of fish, it probably isn't coming from Belgium but somewhere a bit closer.

Reminds me of the effect the UK's activities had on destroying Northern European forests with acid rain.

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Will that solve the smog problem?

cantthinkofone wrote:
Reminds me of the effect the UK's activities had on destroying Northern European forests with acid rain.

Those were days when we had coal mines, and used coal gas, and had an Iron and steel Industry, Chemical plants and such things, most polution from us these days is from cows backsides and waste reclamation tips.

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

So why is it the meter readings for air pollution in Southampton disagree with you, Could it be a plot by the NWO what is your excuse this time? for those who would like it here is the address where you can check.

http://www.hantsair.

org.uk/hampshire/asp

/Bulletin.asp?la=Sou

thampton&bulleti
n=da
ily&site=SH4&amp
;bulleti
ndate=06/03/2013

Still only reading a small part of the data free.
It don't disagree with me, its pointing to what I am saying, poor air quality slowly moving down the valley sides to the lower parts. look at the one close to the River located on the Bridge across the River Test "Red 9"
Millbrook road no data

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

cantthinkofone wrote:
Reminds me of the effect the UK's activities had on destroying Northern European forests with acid rain.

Those were days when we had coal mines, and used coal gas, and had an Iron and steel Industry, Chemical plants and such things, most polution from us these days is from cows backsides and waste reclamation tips.

Yep, it was. I just wonder whether some of the commenters above are aware of that history, or whether they truly think that the UK is entirely blameless for everything ever...

I've been a policeman for 25 years and its the worst I've ever seen.

southy wrote:

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

So why is it the meter readings for air pollution in Southampton disagree with you, Could it be a plot by the NWO what is your excuse this time? for those who would like it here is the address where you can check.

http://www.hantsair.


org.uk/hampshire/asp


/Bulletin.asp?la=Sou


thampton&bulleti

n=da
ily&site=SH4&amp
;
;bulleti
ndate=06/03/2013

Still only reading a small part of the data free.
It don't disagree with me, its pointing to what I am saying, poor air quality slowly moving down the valley sides to the lower parts. look at the one close to the River located on the Bridge across the River Test "Red 9"
Millbrook road no data

You will have to stop breathing in for a while, a change in the weather should see you safe shortly.

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You made it an order and didn't say please.

Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

To save me doing a head count of all of the Tusc Councillors, could you let me know the grand total?

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

So the TUSC wins a council election in a town whose colliery is set to close at the end of the month. Is this part of the strategy of picking difficult seats in traditionally 'right wing' areas that you keep going on about?

Well done on the win, but I'm not sure this one's going to alleviate much doubt, do you?

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

.. a parish council and standing only against an independent. Well done all the same. Not contested by LabLibCon. Oh yes, so what’s TUSC’s policy position on duck ponds, signposts and memorial benches?

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

.. a parish council and standing only against an independent. Well done all the same. Not contested by LabLibCon. Oh yes, so what’s TUSC’s policy position on duck ponds, signposts and memorial benches?

No its a Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council, not a Parish Council. they was up graded a while back, they manage there own finances unlike a parish council do.
There was total 8 prospective candidates, but 6 step down though lack of interest (they could not get the 10 sigatures that is required from the local people living inside that ward).

Facewagon wrote:

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

So the TUSC wins a council election in a town whose colliery is set to close at the end of the month. Is this part of the strategy of picking difficult seats in traditionally 'right wing' areas that you keep going on about?

Well done on the win, but I'm not sure this one's going to alleviate much doubt, do you?

They went there because it was a Labour Strong hold once.
Out of the 8 prospective partys candidates only 2 could get the 10 sigatures from local people living in that ward to be able to go onto the 2nd stage of a local election. The people totally rejected the Torys, Labour, Lib\Dems, UKIP, Greens who each could not get the 10 sigatures that is required.
What looks like has happened with the big 3 closed down there local branch offices in Maltby Town so the people rejected them also.

southy wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

So the TUSC wins a council election in a town whose colliery is set to close at the end of the month. Is this part of the strategy of picking difficult seats in traditionally 'right wing' areas that you keep going on about?

Well done on the win, but I'm not sure this one's going to alleviate much doubt, do you?

They went there because it was a Labour Strong hold once.
Out of the 8 prospective partys candidates only 2 could get the 10 sigatures from local people living in that ward to be able to go onto the 2nd stage of a local election. The people totally rejected the Torys, Labour, Lib\Dems, UKIP, Greens who each could not get the 10 sigatures that is required.
What looks like has happened with the big 3 closed down there local branch offices in Maltby Town so the people rejected them also.

From all this positive news it would seem that you will be forming the next government.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
Well I going to give you lot mainly the TUSC doubters.
TUSC candidate Joe Robinson just won the Maltby town council by-election by 303 votes to 201

.. a parish council and standing only against an independent. Well done all the same. Not contested by LabLibCon. Oh yes, so what’s TUSC’s policy position on duck ponds, signposts and memorial benches?

No its a Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council, not a Parish Council. they was up graded a while back, they manage there own finances unlike a parish council do.
There was total 8 prospective candidates, but 6 step down though lack of interest (they could not get the 10 sigatures that is required from the local people living inside that ward).

.. no southy, wrong again.

See http://www.rotherham
parishcouncils.gov.u
k/getdoc/f3fc55c3-2b
2a-416c-a996-33b037f
7fe24/Notice-of-resu
lt-of-poll.aspx.

It is the 'Election of a Parish Councillor' as the notice clearly states. Maltby Town Council has the status and powers of the lowest level of government in the UK - a Parish Council.

You really do need to get your facts right before you start posting on this website.

So, what is TUSC's policy on cuts? That's grass cutting in the green I mean.

Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.

No I am right Free its Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.
It as the same powers as Eastleigh Town Council or Winchester town council, it manages its own finances a parish council do not.
It was up graded to a Town Council a while back, it also has 18 Councillors to many for a parish council. a parish council normal numbers is between 4 to 8 members.
The term parish is no different to Redbridge Parish Ward.

southy wrote:
Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.

No I am right Free its Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.
It as the same powers as Eastleigh Town Council or Winchester town council, it manages its own finances a parish council do not.
It was up graded to a Town Council a while back, it also has 18 Councillors to many for a parish council. a parish council normal numbers is between 4 to 8 members.
The term parish is no different to Redbridge Parish Ward.

.. you are again showing your total ignorance of the structures of local government in England. Having previously shown your total ignorance of local government finances, I suppose this is not surprising.

Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council is just that, a Borough Council. Your little fellow has NOT been elected to this body.

He has been elected to Maltby Town Council and is thus a Parish Councillor; just as councillors elected to Totton Town Council are also, technically and legally, Parish Councillors. They, also, are NOT councillors in New Forest District Council under whose authority Totton Town Council operate.

If you haven't got the faintest idea of the various structures within local government and how they integrate with each other, then you are not fit to be elected to any position of responsibility.

Now look at the link I posted and see what it says - 'Parish Councillor'. It's there, in black and white, and you can't deny it.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.

No I am right Free its Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.
It as the same powers as Eastleigh Town Council or Winchester town council, it manages its own finances a parish council do not.
It was up graded to a Town Council a while back, it also has 18 Councillors to many for a parish council. a parish council normal numbers is between 4 to 8 members.
The term parish is no different to Redbridge Parish Ward.

.. you are again showing your total ignorance of the structures of local government in England. Having previously shown your total ignorance of local government finances, I suppose this is not surprising.

Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council is just that, a Borough Council. Your little fellow has NOT been elected to this body.

He has been elected to Maltby Town Council and is thus a Parish Councillor; just as councillors elected to Totton Town Council are also, technically and legally, Parish Councillors. They, also, are NOT councillors in New Forest District Council under whose authority Totton Town Council operate.

If you haven't got the faintest idea of the various structures within local government and how they integrate with each other, then you are not fit to be elected to any position of responsibility.

Now look at the link I posted and see what it says - 'Parish Councillor'. It's there, in black and white, and you can't deny it.

And they also sit on the borough Council, like Southampto did once with HCC.
Its a Parish Ward Councillor Election, which is no different to what I have stood on that to is also known as a Parish Ward, just that the word Parish don't get used very much now.
Try Standing in a Elections and you might learn a thing a two how it is all run.
Like they say if you want to know about some thing then get involved to really know.

just to let you know Free the Word "District Ward" is not used in Elections terms in England Wales

southy 1 - the rest of the world 0.

same sh1t different day eh?

southy wrote:

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
The west side of Southampton is the worse spot for smog, The Type of weather we just had where air is cool and there is very little wind, it tends to drop into the bottom of the Hampshire Basin and don't move till there is a reasonable breeze or stronger to get it moving again

So why is it the meter readings for air pollution in Southampton disagree with you, Could it be a plot by the NWO what is your excuse this time? for those who would like it here is the address where you can check.

http://www.hantsair.


org.uk/hampshire/asp


/Bulletin.asp?la=Sou


thampton&bulleti

n=da
ily&site=SH4&amp
;
;bulleti
ndate=06/03/2013

Still only reading a small part of the data free.
It don't disagree with me, its pointing to what I am saying, poor air quality slowly moving down the valley sides to the lower parts. look at the one close to the River located on the Bridge across the River Test "Red 9"
Millbrook road no data

Wrong once again if you look at the graphs for the last 7 days you can see no evidence of increased pollution level creeping down the valleys (try going back to the web site) today you can see all levels have fallen and not followed the prediction you made. How much more wrong information can you come up with. Do I treat this as another lie. You are making Sara Palin look electable.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.

No I am right Free its Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council aka Town Council.
It as the same powers as Eastleigh Town Council or Winchester town council, it manages its own finances a parish council do not.
It was up graded to a Town Council a while back, it also has 18 Councillors to many for a parish council. a parish council normal numbers is between 4 to 8 members.
The term parish is no different to Redbridge Parish Ward.

.. you are again showing your total ignorance of the structures of local government in England. Having previously shown your total ignorance of local government finances, I suppose this is not surprising.

Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council is just that, a Borough Council. Your little fellow has NOT been elected to this body.

He has been elected to Maltby Town Council and is thus a Parish Councillor; just as councillors elected to Totton Town Council are also, technically and legally, Parish Councillors. They, also, are NOT councillors in New Forest District Council under whose authority Totton Town Council operate.

If you haven't got the faintest idea of the various structures within local government and how they integrate with each other, then you are not fit to be elected to any position of responsibility.

Now look at the link I posted and see what it says - 'Parish Councillor'. It's there, in black and white, and you can't deny it.

And they also sit on the borough Council, like Southampto did once with HCC.
Its a Parish Ward Councillor Election, which is no different to what I have stood on that to is also known as a Parish Ward, just that the word Parish don't get used very much now.
Try Standing in a Elections and you might learn a thing a two how it is all run.
Like they say if you want to know about some thing then get involved to really know.

.. no wrong, wrong, again and again.

Southampton councillors did NOT also sit as Hampshire County councillors before Southampton went unitary. Southampton City Councillors only sat on Southampton City Council – there were 3 councillors per ward (as now) and 3 elections every 4 years (as now). In the fourth year there were elections for Hampshire County Council – just one councillor per Southampton ward and they elected Hampshire County Councillors.

Yes, it was possible to be both a Southampton and Hampshire councillor at the same time; BUT you were elected to these separate councils by separate elections. Just being a Southampton councillor did NOT mean you was also a Hampshire councillor.

This is the same position with Maltby Town Council (that has the powers of a parish council and its councillors are titled Parish Councillors) and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council, the authority that takes almost all of the decisions in respect of Maltby and whose Councillors are elected by totally separate elections.

I have just checked the websites of both authorities. Maltby has three Ward Councillors on Rotherham MBC. Maltby Town Council is listed as one of 29 Parish Councils within Rotherham MBC. Maltby’s own website shows it to have three wards and some 18 Parish Councillors. Your man, now a simple Parish Councillor, has just won a by election in ‘North Ward’ with 303 votes from an electorate of 3078.

Next time I post the actual Returning Officers official ‘Notice of Result of Poll’ I suggest you actually look at it.

southy wrote:
just to let you know Free the Word "District Ward" is not used in Elections terms in England Wales

.. and have I used this term? No. Pointless comment.

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Good point, well made.