Royston Smith to stand for MP (From Daily Echo)

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

It will be interesting to see how much UKIP will split to Tory vote, and how much TUSC can split the Labour Vote, What ever happens the majority of the votes will go to Labour and the Torys will come second.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

It will be interesting to see how much UKIP will split to Tory vote, and how much TUSC can split the Labour Vote, What ever happens the majority of the votes will go to Labour and the Torys will come second.

Is that going to be in 2015? Or 2012 as you kept telling us 2.5 years ago?

You are not very good at political predictions, are you?

George4th wrote:
The previous Labour governments took us down every global league table that exists! It was like being a Premiership side relegated to Division 1! If you want to keep sliding all the way down, then keep on voting Labour!
>
And the City of Southampton is an example of Labour rule - it is a bombed out oasis surrounded by Tory and LibDem Councils whose populations are better off NOT being in Southampton!!

George4th wrote:
The previous Labour governments took us down every global league table that exists! It was like being a Premiership side relegated to Division 1! If you want to keep sliding all the way down, then keep on voting Labour!
>
And the City of Southampton is an example of Labour rule - it is a bombed out oasis surrounded by Tory and LibDem Councils whose populations are better off NOT being in Southampton!!

George4th wrote:
The previous Labour governments took us down every global league table that exists! It was like being a Premiership side relegated to Division 1! If you want to keep sliding all the way down, then keep on voting Labour!
>
And the City of Southampton is an example of Labour rule - it is a bombed out oasis surrounded by Tory and LibDem Councils whose populations are better off NOT being in Southampton!!

George4th wrote:
"Strange how the Tory-led government, after more than two years in office, are still blaming the country's ills on the previous Labour government"

Given that the blame is re-enforced by the current Labour opposition slowly but surely in the past two years, admitting that they got EVERYTHING WRONG when in government!! The most recent being the Labour government's "Let Everyone Into Britain Policy"!!!

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

Does that mean you will stand against him? Come on you know the country ids ready if you can just push past the Elvis loves pets party. You have the knowledge who will be standing, now man the barricades rally the troops, call the phone box massive, get your campaign ready so that when the time comes you are not complaining about there not being enough time.

Lone Ranger. wrote:
I would imagine that the editor of the Echo must be puting together a 16 page pull out supplement to accompany this announcement .......

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Will he resign his position on the council BEFORE he stands ..... Or will he continue to take his allowances

Torchie1 wrote:

George4th wrote:
"Strange how the Tory-led government, after more than two years in office, are still blaming the country's ills on the previous Labour government"

Given that the blame is re-enforced by the current Labour opposition slowly but surely in the past two years, admitting that they got EVERYTHING WRONG when in government!! The most recent being the Labour government's "Let Everyone Into Britain Policy"!!!

In today's papers the former Labour Health secretary Frank Dobson holds his hands up for causing problems in the NHS with a specific reference to the current Mid Staffs hospital.Dobson also lays the blame at the two following secretary's but neither Patricia Hewitt or Alan Milburn are big enough to accept any blame.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

It will be interesting to see how much UKIP will split to Tory vote, and how much TUSC can split the Labour Vote, What ever happens the majority of the votes will go to Labour and the Torys will come second.

Is that going to be in 2015? Or 2012 as you kept telling us 2.5 years ago?

You are not very good at political predictions, are you?

You can have a General election called any time now, and is why political partys are publishing there selection early, normally the main partys have all ready selected who stands where (they do that with in a few mths after an election) but don't publish who is standing where, publishing comes normally at a much later date (about 6mths before an election), they don't publish just incase there are changes that happens, like a person might off been selected then conditions change making them unable to stand for elections.
This Government not going to last the full 5 year term off office, there are all ready Tory back benches that do not agree with the PM and cabinet.

southy wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
I would imagine that the editor of the Echo must be puting together a 16 page pull out supplement to accompany this announcement .......

not before the echo done some thing on ukip first

Inform Al wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

It will be interesting to see how much UKIP will split to Tory vote, and how much TUSC can split the Labour Vote, What ever happens the majority of the votes will go to Labour and the Torys will come second.

Is that going to be in 2015? Or 2012 as you kept telling us 2.5 years ago?

You are not very good at political predictions, are you?

You can have a General election called any time now, and is why political partys are publishing there selection early, normally the main partys have all ready selected who stands where (they do that with in a few mths after an election) but don't publish who is standing where, publishing comes normally at a much later date (about 6mths before an election), they don't publish just incase there are changes that happens, like a person might off been selected then conditions change making them unable to stand for elections.
This Government not going to last the full 5 year term off office, there are all ready Tory back benches that do not agree with the PM and cabinet.

The priority for those recalcitrant Tory MPs is to retain their pay and allowances, same as the Lib Dem ones. Don't think we'll see an election until absolutely unavoidable.

southy wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Not a hope in hell of being elected , waste of a deposit !

Unlikely as he will get enough votes to get retain the deposit.

No-one is going to question your expertise in this area.

It will be interesting to see how much UKIP will split to Tory vote, and how much TUSC can split the Labour Vote, What ever happens the majority of the votes will go to Labour and the Torys will come second.

Is that going to be in 2015? Or 2012 as you kept telling us 2.5 years ago?

You are not very good at political predictions, are you?

You can have a General election called any time now, and is why political partys are publishing there selection early, normally the main partys have all ready selected who stands where (they do that with in a few mths after an election) but don't publish who is standing where, publishing comes normally at a much later date (about 6mths before an election), they don't publish just incase there are changes that happens, like a person might off been selected then conditions change making them unable to stand for elections.
This Government not going to last the full 5 year term off office, there are all ready Tory back benches that do not agree with the PM and cabinet.

The priority for those recalcitrant Tory MPs is to retain their pay and allowances, same as the Lib Dem ones. Don't think we'll see an election until absolutely unavoidable.

Those recalcitrant Tory MPs will want to be re-elected at the next general election, and would bring down there own government if it ment it will improve there chances with the voters, but the main down fall will come with Lib/dem who many did not want this con/lib pack in the first place, the Lib/dem cabinet chose this pack with the cons while the rest did not want it.
All it needs is out side pressure and the abstains votes in the Torys will happen on mass, while the Lib/dems will defie the whip and vote against its leadership.

Lockssmart wrote:
J.P.M. Is a Troll

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

Lockssmart wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

And your giro

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

geoff51 wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

And your giro

I hope you dont think I get a Giro, I leave that to the army of Chavs created by the last Labour governments mishandling of the economy.

geoff51 wrote:
What like Gordon Brown Had his grip on reality when he spent all the money and let in all the immigrants to bolster his vote and then dissapeared without trace when he lost the last election.
Also Mr Blair who is now earning blood money from his notoriety as a PM

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

Oh what the hell .......
.
So it was in such a mess that the Tories could still not govern on their own .... they jumped in bed with the Lib Dems.
.
Now it appears that after three years the Labour party are odds on to return to power where the Tories are so poor.
.
Even the cash cow Lord Ashcroft gas stopped donating his money ..... Thats how bad the Tories are.
.
As i have pointed out previously Slippery Dave and Useless George or more diliked by their own party than any other PM or Chancellor.
.
You clearly need to get a grip of reality ........

geoff51 wrote:

Lockssmart wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

And your giro

I hope you dont think I get a Giro, I leave that to the army of Chavs created by the last Labour governments mishandling of the economy.

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

Torchie1 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
When I read these comments I am unsure who is more silly in their posting, but it is a 3 way contest between Southy, Lone ranger or JPM.
None of them would get many votes at an election, abit like TUSC and the Labour party in Eastleigh!

Why would I want to stand in an election?
.
What a stupid comment ......
.
You have surpassed yourself .. again

You are a Labour supporter which automatically makes you stupid and unable to understand the mess they made of this country when in power.

How pathetic are you ..........
.
I will will not return the insult as its Mothers Day and i am sure that your children will be bringing round the flowers to you shortly.
.

Oh what the hell .......
.
So it was in such a mess that the Tories could still not govern on their own .... they jumped in bed with the Lib Dems.
.
Now it appears that after three years the Labour party are odds on to return to power where the Tories are so poor.
.
Even the cash cow Lord Ashcroft gas stopped donating his money ..... Thats how bad the Tories are.
.
As i have pointed out previously Slippery Dave and Useless George or more diliked by their own party than any other PM or Chancellor.
.
You clearly need to get a grip of reality ........

You still seem a bit miffed that Gordon Brown's "Bedroom Eyes" didn't manage to coax the Liberals in to bed with Labour for another re-run of the Lib-Lab pact. You could have been moaning about a Labour coalition if things had worked out differently, or have you conveniently forgotten that attempt at forming a government?

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
What like Gordon Brown Had his grip on reality when he spent all the money and let in all the immigrants to bolster his vote and then dissapeared without trace when he lost the last election.
Also Mr Blair who is now earning blood money from his notoriety as a PM

So what s your point?
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Whats it got to do with Smith?
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Whats it got to do with a poor performing Tory led government who are increasing our borrowing by £Bn.......
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Missing their own targets ....... Overseeing ZERO growth for nearly three years ... Can easily introduce a bedroom tax for the poorest -- but its too difficult to introduce a Mansion Tax for the richest ......
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Genuine Disabled Sick and terminally ill people being forced to look for work against their doctors orders.
.
Youth unemployment at an all time high and rising
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£40,000 tax breaks for the richest in society
.
Disabled Living allowance cut for hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable.
.
6000 nurses being cut from the NHS
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Fuel Poverty on the rise.
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Food Handouts on the rise.
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These are the things that make a Tory a Tory ......... You and one or two others on here fit the bill very very well

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
What like Gordon Brown Had his grip on reality when he spent all the money and let in all the immigrants to bolster his vote and then dissapeared without trace when he lost the last election.
Also Mr Blair who is now earning blood money from his notoriety as a PM

So what s your point?
.
Whats it got to do with Smith?
.
Whats it got to do with a poor performing Tory led government who are increasing our borrowing by £Bn.......
.
Missing their own targets ....... Overseeing ZERO growth for nearly three years ... Can easily introduce a bedroom tax for the poorest -- but its too difficult to introduce a Mansion Tax for the richest ......
.
Genuine Disabled Sick and terminally ill people being forced to look for work against their doctors orders.
.
Youth unemployment at an all time high and rising
.
£40,000 tax breaks for the richest in society
.
Disabled Living allowance cut for hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable.
.
6000 nurses being cut from the NHS
.
Fuel Poverty on the rise.
.
Food Handouts on the rise.
.
These are the things that make a Tory a Tory ......... You and one or two others on here fit the bill very very well

Are you Southy's mate because you both talk gibberish

geoff51 wrote:
Like most Socialists you believe in everyone being equal but this means bringing everyone down to a level with total reliance on the nanny state.
May I remind you that this model was tried for 90 years in the USSR and found wanting, and N Korea is not exactly looking after its peasants as most of them are starving whilst the elite posture nuclear war against the west.
If you are incapable of understanding this i can break it down into bullet points so that you may understand it better.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Like most Socialists you believe in everyone being equal but this means bringing everyone down to a level with total reliance on the nanny state.
May I remind you that this model was tried for 90 years in the USSR and found wanting, and N Korea is not exactly looking after its peasants as most of them are starving whilst the elite posture nuclear war against the west.
If you are incapable of understanding this i can break it down into bullet points so that you may understand it better.

Try and think of something original .... I have done the bullet points.
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I suggest that you are really lacking in substance and ideas especially when you cant use insults through fear of reply.
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I suggest you call it a day before you start to get nasty then find you cant handle the responses.
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George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Like most Socialists you believe in everyone being equal but this means bringing everyone down to a level with total reliance on the nanny state.
May I remind you that this model was tried for 90 years in the USSR and found wanting, and N Korea is not exactly looking after its peasants as most of them are starving whilst the elite posture nuclear war against the west.
If you are incapable of understanding this i can break it down into bullet points so that you may understand it better.

Try and think of something original .... I have done the bullet points.
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I suggest that you are really lacking in substance and ideas especially when you cant use insults through fear of reply.
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I suggest you call it a day before you start to get nasty then find you cant handle the responses.
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You like most Labourites resort to bullying and threats when someone disagrees with you, just like Gordon did with his cabinet when they did not agree with him.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Like most Socialists you believe in everyone being equal but this means bringing everyone down to a level with total reliance on the nanny state.
May I remind you that this model was tried for 90 years in the USSR and found wanting, and N Korea is not exactly looking after its peasants as most of them are starving whilst the elite posture nuclear war against the west.
If you are incapable of understanding this i can break it down into bullet points so that you may understand it better.

Try and think of something original .... I have done the bullet points.
.
I suggest that you are really lacking in substance and ideas especially when you cant use insults through fear of reply.
.
I suggest you call it a day before you start to get nasty then find you cant handle the responses.
.

You like most Labourites resort to bullying and threats when someone disagrees with you, just like Gordon did with his cabinet when they did not agree with him.

No not bullying.
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No no threats.
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You are making yourself look a little silly now .......... So i wont emabarass you as i am sure your an ok person .... So see you another day.
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No more from me tonight

J.P.M wrote:
Geoff51
Hangs around the Elephant&Castle

BUT

Nobody talks to him, so he loiters around the asda mc-cafe

We have all seen him with his tartan shopping trolley and combover

And he tries to convince us that he has a political position and opinion

hee ha ha hee!

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

It may have escaped your notice that there are now a lot more people in the UK, and that many of the extra jobs are part time. It may have escaped your notice that the prices being paid for those houses in London are way out of the league of us ordinary people, but would be affordable to those being looked after by C'moron's government. As I have said before I did not think we could get a worse government than Brown's and have been proved wrong very quickly.

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

It may have escaped your notice that there are now a lot more people in the UK, and that many of the extra jobs are part time. It may have escaped your notice that the prices being paid for those houses in London are way out of the league of us ordinary people, but would be affordable to those being looked after by C'moron's government. As I have said before I did not think we could get a worse government than Brown's and have been proved wrong very quickly.

You go right ahead and believe what you say.

>
Where is Labour's Legacy?!! (Apart from the bodies in the war graves)
>
I say this country would become a Third World country under Labour.
>
Let's face it, they've ruined us twice! And you want to make it a hat-trick?!!

>
(They are pretty good at starting illegal wars and getting many 10s of thousands of people killed unnecessarily but hey, who cares when you can leave office with Big Property Wealth Portfolios and not have to pay for bankrupting the country....)

Besides, you're swimming against the current Labour Party tide because they are admitting how they got it all wrong!

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

It may have escaped your notice that there are now a lot more people in the UK, and that many of the extra jobs are part time. It may have escaped your notice that the prices being paid for those houses in London are way out of the league of us ordinary people, but would be affordable to those being looked after by C'moron's government. As I have said before I did not think we could get a worse government than Brown's and have been proved wrong very quickly.

You go right ahead and believe what you say.

>
Where is Labour's Legacy?!! (Apart from the bodies in the war graves)
>
I say this country would become a Third World country under Labour.
>
Let's face it, they've ruined us twice! And you want to make it a hat-trick?!!

>
(They are pretty good at starting illegal wars and getting many 10s of thousands of people killed unnecessarily but hey, who cares when you can leave office with Big Property Wealth Portfolios and not have to pay for bankrupting the country....)

Besides, you're swimming against the current Labour Party tide because they are admitting how they got it all wrong!

J.P.M wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

It may have escaped your notice that there are now a lot more people in the UK, and that many of the extra jobs are part time. It may have escaped your notice that the prices being paid for those houses in London are way out of the league of us ordinary people, but would be affordable to those being looked after by C'moron's government. As I have said before I did not think we could get a worse government than Brown's and have been proved wrong very quickly.

You go right ahead and believe what you say.

>
Where is Labour's Legacy?!! (Apart from the bodies in the war graves)
>
I say this country would become a Third World country under Labour.
>
Let's face it, they've ruined us twice! And you want to make it a hat-trick?!!

>
(They are pretty good at starting illegal wars and getting many 10s of thousands of people killed unnecessarily but hey, who cares when you can leave office with Big Property Wealth Portfolios and not have to pay for bankrupting the country....)

Besides, you're swimming against the current Labour Party tide because they are admitting how they got it all wrong!

War dead???

Talk to me about that...My husband WAS in Falklands

And he curses fatcher and its evil family: almost daily

George4th wrote:
"Strange how the Tory-led government, after more than two years in office, are still blaming the country's ills on the previous Labour government"

Given that the blame is re-enforced by the current Labour opposition slowly but surely in the past two years, admitting that they got EVERYTHING WRONG when in government!! The most recent being the Labour government's "Let Everyone Into Britain Policy"!!!

George4th wrote:
"Strange how the Tory-led government, after more than two years in office, are still blaming the country's ills on the previous Labour government"

Given that the blame is re-enforced by the current Labour opposition slowly but surely in the past two years, admitting that they got EVERYTHING WRONG when in government!! The most recent being the Labour government's "Let Everyone Into Britain Policy"!!!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
What like Gordon Brown Had his grip on reality when he spent all the money and let in all the immigrants to bolster his vote and then dissapeared without trace when he lost the last election.
Also Mr Blair who is now earning blood money from his notoriety as a PM

So what s your point?
.
Whats it got to do with Smith?
.
Whats it got to do with a poor performing Tory led government who are increasing our borrowing by £Bn.......
.
Missing their own targets ....... Overseeing ZERO growth for nearly three years ... Can easily introduce a bedroom tax for the poorest -- but its too difficult to introduce a Mansion Tax for the richest ......
.
Genuine Disabled Sick and terminally ill people being forced to look for work against their doctors orders.
.
Youth unemployment at an all time high and rising
.
£40,000 tax breaks for the richest in society
.
Disabled Living allowance cut for hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable.
.
6000 nurses being cut from the NHS
.
Fuel Poverty on the rise.
.
Food Handouts on the rise.
.
These are the things that make a Tory a Tory ......... You and one or two others on here fit the bill very very well

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:
"Strange how the Tory-led government, after more than two years in office, are still blaming the country's ills on the previous Labour government"

Given that the blame is re-enforced by the current Labour opposition slowly but surely in the past two years, admitting that they got EVERYTHING WRONG when in government!! The most recent being the Labour government's "Let Everyone Into Britain Policy"!!!

Not the Labour opposition that has seen us lose our AAA status. That is something that Cameron&Co have managed with no assistance from opposition parties.

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

George4th wrote:

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Wish Cameron and his gang of X tory muppet s would disappear like Lord Lucan , Maggie ! I.D.S. have done more harm to this country than any Labour government .

No current or future government will ever do as bad as the last Labour government! It will be financially impossible!!
>
Come on! even the current Labour Party are admitting they got everything wrong!
They just admitted letting everyone into Britain who fancied coming here and helping themselves to Labour's over-financed Welfare State! (Labour poured Billions and Billions into it - no wonder everyone came!)
>
And now Frank Dobson has openly admitted that it was LABOUR who got the NHS WRONG!
>
A vote for Labour is a vote for joining the Third World!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately with his emphasis on doing what is best for the rich at our expense this government is even worse than the last. Something I had thought to be impossible. Even Adolf worked out that the quickest way to get a nation, even deeper in the mire than we were, out of trouble was to get them all working. A major social home building programme would supply work thereby reducing the dole queue, supply badly needed homes which will be paid for through the rents and reduce the cost to the nation through housing benefit as social rents are lower than those charged by C'moron's mates. House prices would then come down to the level achieved by Maggie so that, unlike my grandchildren, the ordinary working man was able to buy his own home. C'moron won't do it as he would upset his party's donors.

It may have escaped your notice but there are now more people in work than ever before - interest rates remain very low - the stockmarket has never been higher - people are buying property in London - Globally everyone is happy to lend us money at low rates! .
>
Labour was an out of control Spender (Just like it was when they were previously in government - both occasions led us to Bankruptcy and the door of the IMF because they spent money we didn't have!!) who created lines of credit that could only lead us into more and more debt EVEN before the global financial crisis. The Labour government spending commitments were based on a Never Ending Money Supply! - how daft was that?!!

(UK Plc is no different to running a household or a business - a fact that escapes the Labour Party! - You cannot spend money you don't have!!)

1) More people in work than ever before = more people working part-time, where hours have been reduced, but still classified as fully employed.
2) Interest rates remain very low = but banks are unwilling to lend, and with cost of living rising quicker than incomes (other than bankers) the housing market is at a standstill.
3) The stockmarket has never been higher = The rich are getting richer.
4) People are buying property in London = People from the Middle East, Orientals and those benefitting from the tax cuts that Millionaires have had thanks to Osborne.
4) Everyone is happy to lend us money = That's right. The government, who constantly moan about having to reduce the nation's debt, but are still borrowing.

5) Labour was an out of control spender = Labour had to bail out banks and building societies, thanks to their out of control lending, who were hit by the INTERNATIONAL financial crisis that had its beginnings in the USA. They also had to bail out Councils who invested in Icelanding banks that failed. Without Brown's intervention, people would have lost homes and jobs and councils would have gone bankrupt.
What alternative policy did Dodgy Dave and Naughty Nick offer?
THEY HAD NO ALTERNATIVE.

You cannot blame Labour for the financial crisis, unless you are saying that they also caused the financial crisis in Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

Incidentally. How do you explain the fact that Cameron&Co were able to lend £millions to the Irish Republic, at a time when he was claiming 'the cupboard was bare?

Linesman wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
What like Gordon Brown Had his grip on reality when he spent all the money and let in all the immigrants to bolster his vote and then dissapeared without trace when he lost the last election.
Also Mr Blair who is now earning blood money from his notoriety as a PM

So what s your point?
.
Whats it got to do with Smith?
.
Whats it got to do with a poor performing Tory led government who are increasing our borrowing by £Bn.......
.
Missing their own targets ....... Overseeing ZERO growth for nearly three years ... Can easily introduce a bedroom tax for the poorest -- but its too difficult to introduce a Mansion Tax for the richest ......
.
Genuine Disabled Sick and terminally ill people being forced to look for work against their doctors orders.
.
Youth unemployment at an all time high and rising
.
£40,000 tax breaks for the richest in society
.
Disabled Living allowance cut for hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable.
.
6000 nurses being cut from the NHS
.
Fuel Poverty on the rise.
.
Food Handouts on the rise.
.
These are the things that make a Tory a Tory ......... You and one or two others on here fit the bill very very well

Tax breaks for the millionaires but shutting Remploy factories that has put disabled workers on the dole.

southy wrote:
Linesman
1/ more people at work is because of the population increase that is all. the % of the unemployed population is higher then its ever been, and to many people are working part time and only getting part time earnings.
This is the Capitalist answer to what the Socialist was trying to do in the 70's, but the difference is, the Socialist was trying to reduce the working week with out losing the power of earnings.
The problem is increase of the population and the advancement of technology will mean less jobs for people.
You can see what the 2 types of answers are, a Capitalist one that don't work, and a Socialist one that was not allowed to be tryed out and tested.

3/ The stockmarket all ways go's high just before a major big crash, examples are the 1920's and 80's crash.

southy wrote:
Linesman
1/ more people at work is because of the population increase that is all. the % of the unemployed population is higher then its ever been, and to many people are working part time and only getting part time earnings.
This is the Capitalist answer to what the Socialist was trying to do in the 70's, but the difference is, the Socialist was trying to reduce the working week with out losing the power of earnings.
The problem is increase of the population and the advancement of technology will mean less jobs for people.
You can see what the 2 types of answers are, a Capitalist one that don't work, and a Socialist one that was not allowed to be tryed out and tested.

3/ The stockmarket all ways go's high just before a major big crash, examples are the 1920's and 80's crash.

southy wrote:
Still Trolling Free

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
Linesman
1/ more people at work is because of the population increase that is all. the % of the unemployed population is higher then its ever been, and to many people are working part time and only getting part time earnings.
This is the Capitalist answer to what the Socialist was trying to do in the 70's, but the difference is, the Socialist was trying to reduce the working week with out losing the power of earnings.
The problem is increase of the population and the advancement of technology will mean less jobs for people.
You can see what the 2 types of answers are, a Capitalist one that don't work, and a Socialist one that was not allowed to be tryed out and tested.

3/ The stockmarket all ways go's high just before a major big crash, examples are the 1920's and 80's crash.

I think you will find the socialist answer as you suggest, that of blaming technology and going back to the land has been tried and massively failed. See the killing fields!

southy wrote:

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:
Linesman
1/ more people at work is because of the population increase that is all. the % of the unemployed population is higher then its ever been, and to many people are working part time and only getting part time earnings.
This is the Capitalist answer to what the Socialist was trying to do in the 70's, but the difference is, the Socialist was trying to reduce the working week with out losing the power of earnings.
The problem is increase of the population and the advancement of technology will mean less jobs for people.
You can see what the 2 types of answers are, a Capitalist one that don't work, and a Socialist one that was not allowed to be tryed out and tested.

3/ The stockmarket all ways go's high just before a major big crash, examples are the 1920's and 80's crash.

I think you will find the socialist answer as you suggest, that of blaming technology and going back to the land has been tried and massively failed. See the killing fields!

Killing fields is what happens when you let Capitalism control Socialism or Capitalism giving the false image that its Socialism just to get the people support.

Socialism as never blamed Technology, thats just plain Capitalist false propaganda.
Socialism says use Technology so the majority will benefit from it, and avance it even more for the benefit of the majority.