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Student towers 'too tall', say St. Mary's residents in Southampton
10:26am Thursday 14th March 2013 in News
By Melanie Adams, Health Reporter
New plans for huge student tower block unveiled for St. Mary's
“WE WILL fight to the end.”
That was the message from a group of residents who fear a controversial new development in Southampton will suffocate their community.
The Charlotte Place Campaign Group were among many residents taking a first look at the new amended plans for two tower blocks of student flats on derelict land in Charlotte Place.
As reported yesterday, Bouygues Development had initially submitted plans in October to Southampton City Council, but after fierce opposition from nearby residents, changes were made.
The new-look proposals, which were submitted to the council last month, have seen the south tower reduced by one storey, making it 14 storeys, and the north tower increased by two storeys, seeing it become a 20-storey building.
The number of beds has been reduced from 697 to 686 and there had also been allocated areas on the ground floor for businesses and restaurants but this has been extended to include community facilities.
Sarah Beuden, from Savills, who have been the planning consultant on the proposals, said: “We are pleased to be able to show the local people the changes we have made as a result of listening to what they have said to us.”
Seventy-four objections had been made to the plans by members of the public ahead of last night’s exhibition at the Newtown Youth Centre in Graham Road.
David Roath, vice-chairman of the Charlotte Place Campaign Group, said: “The tallest tower is still five storeys too high and there are too many people living on top of each other.
“We, as a group, do not have an issue with students, but we are against this overcrowding.
It needs to be in proportion.
“We were promised a healthy living centre and that is what we want to see there.
“We will fight this until the end to give the community want they want.”
The city council will decide on the plans later this year.
There are also plans afoot to convert the nearby gas board offices into student accomodation as well as the conversion of an office block in Brunswick Place into accomodation for post graduates.
Comments(52)
Independent Thought
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10:51am Thu 14 Mar 13
Its membership probably comprises in the main of the slum landlords, their families and friends who make an absolute fortune ripping students off with grotty accommodation!
Subject48
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10:52am Thu 14 Mar 13
wossit
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10:58am Thu 14 Mar 13
Block41row0sfc
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11:04am Thu 14 Mar 13
elvisimo
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11:07am Thu 14 Mar 13
one in a million wrote:Now get the word TROLL in as equally misused
May I be the first to use the acronym "NIMBY" hopefully forestalling those that seem to derive pleasure in using it (feeling rather smug while they do so)
Rockstone
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11:49am Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail
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12:05pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail
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12:06pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Rockstone wrote:As if it is only students responsible for this. Southampton has more than it's fair share of native scumbags just as responsible for such behaviour.
They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.
Rockstone
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12:12pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:When I lived in that area it was the students who were by far the biggest offenders, and the police did **** all.
Rockstone wrote:As if it is only students responsible for this. Southampton has more than it's fair share of native scumbags just as responsible for such behaviour.
They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.
Rockstone
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12:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13
chrisja wrote:And WHY is it a sh*thole?
Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement.
These residents need to get real and stop whinging.
sotonboy84
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12:17pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:So building a 20 storey block of student flats on a currently empty piece of land is going to make Southampton look any less like a "1970's decrepit catastrophe" exactly?
NIMBYs in an dirty, run-down area which is currently full of street drinking tramps and junkies. Anything that makes it look better is a good thing. Come on people of Southampton, do you want your city to look modern, or continue to look like the 1970s decrepit catastrophe it is right now?
Block41row0sfc
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12:19pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Rockstone wrote:There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.
kingnotail
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12:20pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead
chrisja wrote:And WHY is it a sh*thole?
Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement.
These residents need to get real and stop whinging.
s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.
kingnotail
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12:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:At least it would look modern, for a few years at least. But don't get me wrong, it'll take more than a few blocks of student flats to save Southampton from terminal decline and ever-increasing mediocrity.
kingnotail wrote:So building a 20 storey block of student flats on a currently empty piece of land is going to make Southampton look any less like a "1970's decrepit catastrophe" exactly?
NIMBYs in an dirty, run-down area which is currently full of street drinking tramps and junkies. Anything that makes it look better is a good thing. Come on people of Southampton, do you want your city to look modern, or continue to look like the 1970s decrepit catastrophe it is right now?
sotonboy84
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12:22pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Rockstone wrote:That's also why that area has signs warning of £80 fines for being loud at night.
kingnotail wrote:When I lived in that area it was the students who were by far the biggest offenders, and the police did **** all.Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.As if it is only students responsible for this. Southampton has more than it's fair share of native scumbags just as responsible for such behaviour.
Every city has trouble from somebody or other but it's a well know fact that some students cause a lot more trouble. They're away from home, away from the authority they have known at home and intent on having a good time and don't care about the place they're in as they'll be leaving it in a few years.
kingnotail
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12:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?
Rockstone wrote:There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.
sotonboy84
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12:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:Maybe your view is a little one sided, not everybody wants to see Southampton turned into a 'modern city'. Southampton is a modern city with a rich hiostory, maybe not quite used to it's full advantage but it's there. If by modern I assume you mean flatten the city and fill it full of glass and concrete high rises.
sotonboy84 wrote:At least it would look modern, for a few years at least. But don't get me wrong, it'll take more than a few blocks of student flats to save Southampton from terminal decline and ever-increasing mediocrity.kingnotail wrote: NIMBYs in an dirty, run-down area which is currently full of street drinking tramps and junkies. Anything that makes it look better is a good thing. Come on people of Southampton, do you want your city to look modern, or continue to look like the 1970s decrepit catastrophe it is right now?So building a 20 storey block of student flats on a currently empty piece of land is going to make Southampton look any less like a "1970's decrepit catastrophe" exactly?
Some people have more important concerns over much needed housing for permanent residents and what problems an influx of hundreds of students will bring to the area they live in.
You make it very clear on many posts that you hate Southampton and it's a disgusting dump and if so, why do follow it's news stories and comment on most of them?
kingnotail
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12:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Absolute nonsense. I have little time for most students and their 'crazy' spoilt brat antics, but at worse they are resposible for litter, noise and maybe the odd case of criminal damage. Are you really going to put organised, hard drug dealing down to students? How about prostitution? Violent crime? Robbery? Burglary? Please...get your own house in order first.
Rockstone wrote:That's also why that area has signs warning of £80 fines for being loud at night.
kingnotail wrote:When I lived in that area it was the students who were by far the biggest offenders, and the police did **** all.Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.As if it is only students responsible for this. Southampton has more than it's fair share of native scumbags just as responsible for such behaviour.
Every city has trouble from somebody or other but it's a well know fact that some students cause a lot more trouble. They're away from home, away from the authority they have known at home and intent on having a good time and don't care about the place they're in as they'll be leaving it in a few years.
sotonboy84
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12:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem.
Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up.
Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.
Pikey-Biker
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12:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:Come on Kingnotail, every major city has this similar problem.
Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.chrisja wrote: Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement. These residents need to get real and stop whinging.And WHY is it a sh*thole?
kingnotail
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12:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Towns and cities don't have to look modern (see Bath, York, Cambridge and so on) to look pleasant and inviting. But, possibly aside from the area around the common, Southampton looks anything BUT pleasant and inviting. 'Old, dirty and knackered' seems to be the prevailing theme.
kingnotail wrote:Maybe your view is a little one sided, not everybody wants to see Southampton turned into a 'modern city'. Southampton is a modern city with a rich hiostory, maybe not quite used to it's full advantage but it's there. If by modern I assume you mean flatten the city and fill it full of glass and concrete high rises.
sotonboy84 wrote:At least it would look modern, for a few years at least. But don't get me wrong, it'll take more than a few blocks of student flats to save Southampton from terminal decline and ever-increasing mediocrity.kingnotail wrote: NIMBYs in an dirty, run-down area which is currently full of street drinking tramps and junkies. Anything that makes it look better is a good thing. Come on people of Southampton, do you want your city to look modern, or continue to look like the 1970s decrepit catastrophe it is right now?So building a 20 storey block of student flats on a currently empty piece of land is going to make Southampton look any less like a "1970's decrepit catastrophe" exactly?
Some people have more important concerns over much needed housing for permanent residents and what problems an influx of hundreds of students will bring to the area they live in.
You make it very clear on many posts that you hate Southampton and it's a disgusting dump and if so, why do follow it's news stories and comment on most of them?
kingnotail
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12:38pm Thu 14 Mar 13
****-Biker wrote:Most other cities have good aspects to make up for such negatives. Southampton really doesn't.
kingnotail wrote:Come on Kingnotail, every major city has this similar problem.
Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.chrisja wrote: Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement. These residents need to get real and stop whinging.And WHY is it a sh*thole?
sotonboy84
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12:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:Get out of it then!
****-Biker wrote:Most other cities have good aspects to make up for such negatives. Southampton really doesn't.kingnotail wrote:Come on Kingnotail, every major city has this similar problem.Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.chrisja wrote: Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement. These residents need to get real and stop whinging.And WHY is it a sh*thole?
If I hated something so much, I would change it. What's stopping you?
kingnotail
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12:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.
kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem.
Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up.
Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.
Brusher Mills
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12:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13
one in a million wrote:That was my first thought. The building looks great will improve the area, these buildings are great for students and much needed.
May I be the first to use the acronym "NIMBY" hopefully forestalling those that seem to derive pleasure in using it (feeling rather smug while they do so)
Slum landlords need the boot.
sotonboy84
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12:49pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ.
sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem.
You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.
loosehead
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12:54pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I lived in a run down bedsit in Oxford Avenue those Landlords lived in Fareham.
You'd report damp & they'd come around remove the wood effect boarding & paint the walls & the electric meters were charging far more than they should & we proved it by one person insisting on paying by direct debit.
These places & the mini village they're building behind the Mayflower should reduce the amount of students in HMO's so leaving these landlords two choices sell the properties or lower rents the first could let more family homes go on the market the second could see cheaper rents for the people looking to rent a property,
the only ones to lose out are the rip of land lords & developers?
Hopefully give the students a decent safe place to live & they'll act accordingly otherwise the Uni or colleges should come down hard on ant anti social behaviour but will we come down on local yobs?
sotonboy84
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1:00pm Thu 14 Mar 13
loosehead wrote:Sounds a great idea in theory but unfortunately, these blocks are expensive so aimed at the wealthier students whislt the run down hovels are still required for the students that are less wealthy. The outcome is there will be even more student accomodation available and the universities will expand.
Purpose built blocks with landlords objecting to it calling themselves residents? I lived in a run down bedsit in Oxford Avenue those Landlords lived in Fareham. You'd report damp & they'd come around remove the wood effect boarding & paint the walls & the electric meters were charging far more than they should & we proved it by one person insisting on paying by direct debit. These places & the mini village they're building behind the Mayflower should reduce the amount of students in HMO's so leaving these landlords two choices sell the properties or lower rents the first could let more family homes go on the market the second could see cheaper rents for the people looking to rent a property, the only ones to lose out are the rip of land lords & developers? Hopefully give the students a decent safe place to live & they'll act accordingly otherwise the Uni or colleges should come down hard on ant anti social behaviour but will we come down on local yobs?
The universities are no longer what they used to be but are now businesses with targets to reach. You complain to them about their students and they don't want to know. They don't do anything proactive to prevent unsociable or criminal behaviour and if it's a serious enough crime, the police will deal with it and the university will wash their hands of the student.
Rockstone
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1:32pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Correct
Rockstone wrote:That's also why that area has signs warning of £80 fines for being loud at night.
kingnotail wrote:When I lived in that area it was the students who were by far the biggest offenders, and the police did **** all.Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.As if it is only students responsible for this. Southampton has more than it's fair share of native scumbags just as responsible for such behaviour.
Every city has trouble from somebody or other but it's a well know fact that some students cause a lot more trouble. They're away from home, away from the authority they have known at home and intent on having a good time and don't care about the place they're in as they'll be leaving it in a few years.
Rockhopper
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1:47pm Thu 14 Mar 13
A welcome development providing affordable, modern and safe accommodation for students.
Beer Monster
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1:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread.
kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ.
sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem.
You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.
Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all.
If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it.
Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...
sotonboy84
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2:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!
sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Lone Ranger.
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2:50pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Dont waste you time on him sotonboy ... just a WUM
kingnotail wrote:Get out of it then!
****-Biker wrote:Most other cities have good aspects to make up for such negatives. Southampton really doesn't.kingnotail wrote:Come on Kingnotail, every major city has this similar problem.Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.chrisja wrote: Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement. These residents need to get real and stop whinging.And WHY is it a sh*thole?
If I hated something so much, I would change it. What's stopping you?
georgetheseventh
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3:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13
georgetheseventh
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3:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84
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3:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Lone Ranger. wrote:Haven't I learned. Just an unhinged weirdo with nothing decent to say!
sotonboy84 wrote:Dont waste you time on him sotonboy ... just a WUMkingnotail wrote:Get out of it then! If I hated something so much, I would change it. What's stopping you?****-Biker wrote:Most other cities have good aspects to make up for such negatives. Southampton really doesn't.kingnotail wrote:Come on Kingnotail, every major city has this similar problem.Rockstone wrote:Decaying, run down, ugly, old, full of smackheads/crackhead s....to be fair I could be talking about the whole of Southampton.chrisja wrote: Look... St Marys is a total, complete and utter shithole. If you look up the word 'shithole' in the dictionary, there is just a picture of St Marys. In fact, if you lined its streets with heavily pre-loaded festival toilets that would actually be an improvement. These residents need to get real and stop whinging.And WHY is it a sh*thole?
Rockstone
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3:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.
Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!
sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
bigfella777
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3:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
One of the biggest landlords in the city, what a suprise.
These objections are outrageous, too tall for a city centre? What do you expect bungalows?
Get on with it the sooner the better.
bazzeroz
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3:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13
'Hello, Boy Guws how may I help you?'
sotonboy84
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4:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am.
sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...
RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
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4:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail
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4:58pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.
Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am.
sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...
sparkster
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5:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84
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5:09pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed?
sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer.
You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on.
Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.
kingnotail
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5:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Accepted a job here thinking 'can't be that bad'? It is. Contract expires at the end of the year, trust me you won't see me for dust.
kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed?
sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer.
You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on.
Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.
sotonboy84
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7:18pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:Hallelujah!
sotonboy84 wrote:Accepted a job here thinking 'can't be that bad'? It is. Contract expires at the end of the year, trust me you won't see me for dust.
kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed?
sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer.
You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on.
Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.
Good luck finding a new job. You'll need it if you apply the same attitude to work as you do to your comments.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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8:28pm Thu 14 Mar 13
loosehead
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9:15pm Thu 14 Mar 13
kingnotail wrote:So your working here taking employment from a local person & taking up what a flat?
sotonboy84 wrote:Accepted a job here thinking 'can't be that bad'? It is. Contract expires at the end of the year, trust me you won't see me for dust.
kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed?
sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer.
You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on.
Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.
yet you constantly slag the city down?
Maybe when you go back home you'll find it's not the great place you remembered
sotonboy84
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10:10am Fri 15 Mar 13
loosehead wrote:He's probably some weirdo from Southampton that gets his kicks out of annoying people on the internet by saying anything to cause a stir.
kingnotail wrote:So your working here taking employment from a local person & taking up what a flat? yet you constantly slag the city down? Maybe when you go back home you'll find it's not the great place you rememberedsotonboy84 wrote:Accepted a job here thinking 'can't be that bad'? It is. Contract expires at the end of the year, trust me you won't see me for dust.kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed? Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer. You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on. Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Sad little person.
IOAD
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11:23am Fri 15 Mar 13
Block41row0sfc wrote:Mad alsations, pitbull terriors, hammerheaded loan-sharks trying out for Jaws 6, BMX bandits breaking all the windows, don't need a weatherman to find which way the wind blows!
Rockstone wrote:There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.
kingnotail
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4:09pm Fri 15 Mar 13
sotonboy84 wrote:Don't insult me. I'm not from Southampton.
loosehead wrote:He's probably some weirdo from Southampton that gets his kicks out of annoying people on the internet by saying anything to cause a stir.
kingnotail wrote:So your working here taking employment from a local person & taking up what a flat? yet you constantly slag the city down? Maybe when you go back home you'll find it's not the great place you rememberedsotonboy84 wrote:Accepted a job here thinking 'can't be that bad'? It is. Contract expires at the end of the year, trust me you won't see me for dust.kingnotail wrote:I'm surprised that you don't think Southampton's economy has already gone down the toilet, along with everything else it once posessed? Southampton has survived for many hundreds of years before the universities came along and Southampton does not depend on a bunch of students who spend most of their loans in pubs and very little anywhere else to keep its economy going. The people that really benefit from students are the universities and the greedy landlords, not the people of Southampton. The people of Southampton suffer. You really just make childish comments based on nothing but your own ill informed view with no substance whatsoever. Try thinking outside the box for a moment and make a constructive comment, argument or criticsim and you might have a leg to stand on. Maybe you'll also tell me why you are actually in Southampton if it's that bad? I have asked you a number of times but the answer isn't forthcoming.sotonboy84 wrote:Let's get rid of the universities then and see how quickly Sh1thampton's economy goes straight down the toilet. Ford? Gone. Docks and Cruises? Unsustainable in the long term. Anything else left? Fortunately the economic benefit of the Universities is safe in the long term, otherwise I would be very careful what you wish for.Rockstone wrote:I have. I've seen the beautiful houses in Portswood just off the avenue change to run down hovels with students having parties in front and back gardens, setting fire to wheelie bins, damaging cars, shouting abuse, screaming and playing loud music until 6am. Not to mention the aftermath of rubbish and bottles thrown in the streets, pairs of shoes hanging from the telephone lines, things stolen from gardens and road signs dumped out of the fronts of houses...sotonboy84 wrote:You have obviously never lived next door to a building full of students living in comfort but destroying everybody else's peace of mind through their total ignorance of how to behave normally, one example being Rockstone Place. Once the agents have got the scumbags in they don't give a toss about what the neighbours have/had to put up with.Beer Monster wrote:Enjoy!sotonboy84 wrote:Thank you sotonboy, exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread. Okay, Southampton isn't the prettiest city in the world, but it's where I was born and I'm proud of our heritage. If you want pretty, take a trip over to the New Forest, it's not far, I commuted for six years to Salisbury via Southampton Central from there after all. If people want to come and study here then they should be given every opportunity to do so in comfort and peace of mind. If this means building a skyscraper style building that's too high for the surrounding area (next to Jury's Inn FFS!) then so be it. Rant over, I'm off for a wander around Edinburgh...kingnotail wrote:Jesus Christ. So now all dog owners have something wrong with them... You're a very angry little person which suggests there's a lot about yourself that you're very unhappy with, not the world around you or Southampton. I would really sort that out mate before it becomes an even bigger problem. You may not have said students should escape punishment but you did say you'd rather walk in their vomit and urine, rather than the non existent dog mess problem which implies you're in support of students unsociable behaviour.sotonboy84 wrote:You're a dog owner, what a suprise. Brain not firing on all cylinders I expect? Where did I say that students should escape punishment for such behaviour? ANYONE should be responsible for cleaning up after themselves, and should face a punitive fine if caught.kingnotail wrote:A dog owner should be responsible for picking up their own dogs mess but the difference is, a dog has to go to toilet outside. I'm a dog owner and I must be scanning the wrong parts of the streets but apart from the odd bit very occasionally, Southampton does not have a problem. You were only saying yesterday about the poor guy that got drunk at a family wedding and unfortunately drowned in Portsmouth. You had no sympathy for him, made quite insensitive comments and said he 'brought it on himself'. If students are being sick and urinating in the streets, shouldn't they also take a bit of responsibility and clear up their own mess? After all, they did bring it on themselves. Oh wait, that doesn't count as you seem to twist everything to suit your current weak argument with the only intention of winding people up. Grow up mate. If Southampton sickens you that much, drop your mickey mouse of a degree at the dimstitute and clear off back to the hole you came from.Block41row0sfc wrote:Because to people like this, students are 'dangerous, scary outsiders', to be blamed for all ills when in fact the true offenders are local and staring you straight in the face. Plus, I'd prefer the occasional pile of vomit and p1ss to the endless piles of dogsh1t that still litter the streets of Southampton. Don't recall seeing many students with dogs?Rockstone wrote: They should relocate the 'future professionals' accomodation to portsmouth where they can vomit in the street, urinate in the street, make noise at all hours, threaten people and smash glasses or bottles to their heart's content instead of in Bedford Place and the surrounding area.There's crackheads smackheads and pimps there why is it a problem moving students in.
Sad little person.
one in a million says...
10:43am Thu 14 Mar 13