NHS protest needs more help (From Daily Echo)

Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

.. the fact is southy, your SP mob have now tried twice in influence and infiltrate this new non-political organisation. On both occasions they were politely told to sling their hook. The SP solution was to fight for a general strike. Yea, sure. That will save the NHS, won't it? If you could ever get it together, that is, this side of 2050.

The SP and its Trotskyist fellow travellers were yet again employing their entryist tactics. Most campaigners are now fully aware that letting SP/SWP have any influence is effectively the kiss of death for the campaign.

Can we not let the comment of this one be southy'd please? It's too important an issue for that.
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The petition is here:
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http://you.38degrees
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Please sign.

Join the campaign to stop this evil 'Bedroom Tax' and we could all work together. There's a protest on the same day for this cause. Join forces.

bazzeroz wrote:
Join the campaign to stop this evil 'Bedroom Tax' and we could all work together. There's a protest on the same day for this cause. Join forces.

No thanks, I am all for the Bedroom Tax

bazzeroz wrote:
Join the campaign to stop this evil 'Bedroom Tax' and we could all work together. There's a protest on the same day for this cause. Join forces.

I'd happily sign against that too. Townbee had it right for once when she described it as 'heartless' and 'pointless'.
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Post up a 38 degrees link if there is one.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

Nope.

Besides,I could never reach the standards you set for making stuff up and then denying all knowledge of it later on.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

.. the fact is southy, your SP mob have now tried twice in influence and infiltrate this new non-political organisation. On both occasions they were politely told to sling their hook. The SP solution was to fight for a general strike. Yea, sure. That will save the NHS, won't it? If you could ever get it together, that is, this side of 2050.

The SP and its Trotskyist fellow travellers were yet again employing their entryist tactics. Most campaigners are now fully aware that letting SP/SWP have any influence is effectively the kiss of death for the campaign.

Your wrong again Free, being a non-political organisation makes them a protest vote, which they have writen to the TUSC and said that they are just a protest vote, they also agreed that a General Strike would help to bring down this Government and will get people to start thinking in a differt direction, but they want to try and avoid if it can be, They also a knowledge that the NHS would be safer in true Socialist hands.
Mind you they would say that if you cross reference with NHA members to a old SWP memebership there are a number of ex-SWP members in the NHA, if you knew what was going on with in the SWP then you would understand why it as so many ex-SWP members.
A kiss of death you think then explane to me why the SP as had loads of seccess in campaigns, like keeping Crowling house open, and other NHS wards open though out the country, theres been other seccessful campaigns also, the truth is the SP is more likely to make a campaign more successfull when they are involved they have the organation behind them to make it successful.

cantthinkofone wrote:
Can we not let the comment of this one be southy'd please? It's too important an issue for that.
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The petition is here:
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http://you.38degrees

.org.uk/petitions/de

fend-the-nhs-petitio

n
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Please sign.

Cat the SP been onto this right from the start, 38% is only a subjection of the SP,
38% is the lower middle class of the SP and SWP.
Alot of people agrees with a lot of what the SP are doing and saying, but we got to form subsections because of all this false anti socialist propaganda the ide is to get people thinking diffently.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

Nope.

Besides,I could never reach the standards you set for making stuff up and then denying all knowledge of it later on.

You did Shoong you was one of those that called for the NHS to be sold off to private hands to run the NHS.
You also like to put words into people mouths that do not agree with you, is that not right lineman

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

Nope.

Besides,I could never reach the standards you set for making stuff up and then denying all knowledge of it later on.

You did Shoong you was one of those that called for the NHS to be sold off to private hands to run the NHS.
You also like to put words into people mouths that do not agree with you, is that not right lineman

No i didn't Peter.

As for 'putting words into peoples mouths', again there would be no point as you would outshine me at every turn in that respect. I simply couldn't compete.

Ahhh, you feel you need to bring someone else in to help you out, how sweetly desperate.

You're very much alone I'm afraid.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
Jane Freeland, one of the founding members of Southampton Defend NHS.

You need to team up with the Socialist Party Southampton Branch, the SP have been fighting this for years and have had some success in doing so.

I doubt she's going to do something to harm her cause.

the only that could be done is being some thing like you Shoong not willing to do any thing, mind you did you not say once to privatise the NHS.

.. the fact is southy, your SP mob have now tried twice in influence and infiltrate this new non-political organisation. On both occasions they were politely told to sling their hook. The SP solution was to fight for a general strike. Yea, sure. That will save the NHS, won't it? If you could ever get it together, that is, this side of 2050.

The SP and its Trotskyist fellow travellers were yet again employing their entryist tactics. Most campaigners are now fully aware that letting SP/SWP have any influence is effectively the kiss of death for the campaign.

Your wrong again Free, being a non-political organisation makes them a protest vote, which they have writen to the TUSC and said that they are just a protest vote, they also agreed that a General Strike would help to bring down this Government and will get people to start thinking in a differt direction, but they want to try and avoid if it can be, They also a knowledge that the NHS would be safer in true Socialist hands.
Mind you they would say that if you cross reference with NHA members to a old SWP memebership there are a number of ex-SWP members in the NHA, if you knew what was going on with in the SWP then you would understand why it as so many ex-SWP members.
A kiss of death you think then explane to me why the SP as had loads of seccess in campaigns, like keeping Crowling house open, and other NHS wards open though out the country, theres been other seccessful campaigns also, the truth is the SP is more likely to make a campaign more successfull when they are involved they have the organation behind them to make it successful.

.. total and utter rubbish. I was there at both meetings and you weren't.

Your Trotskyist colleagues, however, were given short shaft for their stupid ideas. We won’t see them back again, fortunately.

Bickering aside...

Sign the petition. When your loved ones are dying because they can't afford privatised treatment, it will be too late.

http://you.38degrees
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