Gang of thugs jailed for 31 years for terrifying attack on man in his Southampton home

Daily Echo: Jason Cook Jason Cook

A GANG of thugs who left a man unconscious in a brutal attack in his own home have been jailed for a total of more than 31 years.

The masked raiders used a sledgehammer to smash their way into the flat and carried out a terrifying assault using a baseball bat, a knife and CS gas.

Neighbours called police who caught the attackers but only after two of them had tried to escape by jumping out of a third-storey window, a court heard.

Today Jason Cook, 29, Jacob Warren-Emanuel, 23, Gary Forbes, 25, and Samuel Jones, 21, are all behind bars.

Southampton Crown Court heard how the men used a sledgehammer to smash their way into Mr Morrell’s flat in Clover Nook, Redbridge, in the early hours of July 8 last year.

They ransacked his home and launched an appalling assault on their victim, the court was told.

He was threatened with a baseball bat and a knife, dragged around his flat and sprayed in the face with CS gas.

Warren-Emanuel, 23, Forbes, 25, and Jones, 21, were found guilty of aggravated burglary following a trial in January.

Cook, 29, of no fixed address, had previously pleaded guilty to the charge.

Sentencing, Judge Gary Burrell QC told the court how Mr Morrell’s life has been turned “upside down” following the attack, and has been suffering from nightmares and night terrors.

He jailed Warren-Emanuel, of North East Road, Sholing, and Forbes, of Sinclair Road, Southampton, for eight years each for their roles in the attack.

Jones, of Wilton Avenue, Southampton, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years after it emerged he was in breach of a suspended sentence for burglary.

Judge Burrell told the men: “You managed to break into his house, disable him and steal the drugs he had. It was you Cook who knew of Mr Morrell. I am quite satisfied it was your idea to go there.

“You took with you white forensic-type suit overalls, which you changed into, no doubt with the view of leaving no scientific trace.

“You were all caught. You Cook and the other man jumped from the bedroom window and tried to escape. It was three storeys high – a reckless act risking death and serious injury.

“Mr Morrell understandably thought he was going to be killed and it was fortunate he sustained no permanent injury.”

Sentencing Cook to 12 years, reduced to eight due to his early guilty plea, Judge Burrell said: “You accept you were responsible for planning the attack.

“If you hadn’t done what you did none of these other young men and their families would be in the position they are in. You caused this.”

Judge Burrell commended the police officers for their quick response to the incident.

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12:27pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

wow no takers yet?

let me start then:

The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc...

Enjoy!
wow no takers yet? let me start then: The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc... Enjoy! Subject48
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12:40pm Sat 16 Mar 13

arthur dalyrimple says...

subhuman.
subhuman. arthur dalyrimple
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1:02pm Sat 16 Mar 13

ottostrasser says...

One positive. Its good to see citizens of different ethnic backgrounds working together.
One positive. Its good to see citizens of different ethnic backgrounds working together. ottostrasser
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1:28pm Sat 16 Mar 13

business-guru says...

ottostrasser wrote:
One positive. Its good to see citizens of different ethnic backgrounds working together.
cnut.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: One positive. Its good to see citizens of different ethnic backgrounds working together.[/p][/quote]cnut. business-guru
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1:56pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Georgem says...

Subject48 wrote:
wow no takers yet?

let me start then:

The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc...

Enjoy!
You forgot about references to "dropping the soap" and chuckling about prison rape.
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: wow no takers yet? let me start then: The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc... Enjoy![/p][/quote]You forgot about references to "dropping the soap" and chuckling about prison rape. Georgem
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2:21pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Linesman says...

The story's headline gives the impression that they were given a tough sentence, but they average less than eight years each.

The betting is that they will not serve the complete sentence, so they are living on the state, faring better than a good many pensioners, and then they will be out to cause more mayhem.
The story's headline gives the impression that they were given a tough sentence, but they average less than eight years each. The betting is that they will not serve the complete sentence, so they are living on the state, faring better than a good many pensioners, and then they will be out to cause more mayhem. Linesman
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2:45pm Sat 16 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

I'm not usually in the "hang em flog em" camp, but only serving ~3 years (with good behaviour) for something as barbaric and premeditated as is described sound unduly lenient.
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I'm not usually in the "hang em flog em" camp, but only serving ~3 years (with good behaviour) for something as barbaric and premeditated as is described sound unduly lenient. . cantthinkofone
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3:48pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Higginz says...

That first one needs some serious sleep.
That first one needs some serious sleep. Higginz
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5:30pm Sat 16 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

i think the wip should come back i think the prison numbers would drop
i think the wip should come back i think the prison numbers would drop bigal007
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6:47pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

@ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant.
@ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant. Lady aurele
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8:19pm Sat 16 Mar 13

chrisja says...

Police mugshots are always so hilariously gay... not so big now are you :D lmao
Police mugshots are always so hilariously gay... not so big now are you :D lmao chrisja
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9:00pm Sat 16 Mar 13

ottostrasser says...

Lady aurele wrote:
@ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant.
They were "bread" in this country ? Maybe they kneaded the drugs.
Incidently meant the original comment as a joke so "whoosh".
On a serious note that is an unpleasant selection of our wonderful multi-racial society.
Sounds like the poor victim wasnt sqeaky clean either if they were after his stash of drugs.
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: @ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]They were "bread" in this country ? Maybe they kneaded the drugs. Incidently meant the original comment as a joke so "whoosh". On a serious note that is an unpleasant selection of our wonderful multi-racial society. Sounds like the poor victim wasnt sqeaky clean either if they were after his stash of drugs. ottostrasser
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9:08pm Sat 16 Mar 13

WalkingOnAWire says...

ottostrasser wrote:
Lady aurele wrote:
@ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant.
They were "bread" in this country ? Maybe they kneaded the drugs.
Incidently meant the original comment as a joke so "whoosh".
On a serious note that is an unpleasant selection of our wonderful multi-racial society.
Sounds like the poor victim wasnt sqeaky clean either if they were after his stash of drugs.
@ottostrasser

"They were "bread" in this country ?
Maybe they kneaded the drugs."

They ransacked the flat - I reckon it was dough they were looking for.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: @ottostrasser Sorry to disapoint you but they are all British born and bread in this country, also their parents.. So don't be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]They were "bread" in this country ? Maybe they kneaded the drugs. Incidently meant the original comment as a joke so "whoosh". On a serious note that is an unpleasant selection of our wonderful multi-racial society. Sounds like the poor victim wasnt sqeaky clean either if they were after his stash of drugs.[/p][/quote]@ottostrasser "They were "bread" in this country ? Maybe they kneaded the drugs." They ransacked the flat - I reckon it was dough they were looking for. WalkingOnAWire
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9:32pm Sat 16 Mar 13

MiddleOfRoad says...

Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage.
I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.
Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them. MiddleOfRoad
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10:05pm Sat 16 Mar 13

elvisimo says...

Scum on scum . Thicko pointless people. Shoot them as will never change. Just parasites on society
Scum on scum . Thicko pointless people. Shoot them as will never change. Just parasites on society elvisimo
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10:31pm Sat 16 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

@ottostrasser I love your sense of humour...

Chrisaja disappointed you
You feel the need to swear you missing your mates?
@ottostrasser I love your sense of humour... Chrisaja disappointed you You feel the need to swear you missing your mates? Lady aurele
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10:38pm Sat 16 Mar 13

arthur boutfaith says...

He's sporting a nasty lovebite.
He's sporting a nasty lovebite. arthur boutfaith
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12:03am Sun 17 Mar 13

IronLady2010 says...

They all look like the type you'd take home to meet the parents don't they?
They all look like the type you'd take home to meet the parents don't they? IronLady2010
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5:02am Sun 17 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

the one with the black eye i bet he walked in the cell door me thinks not hope someone kick the **** out of him
the one with the black eye i bet he walked in the cell door me thinks not hope someone kick the **** out of him bigal007
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6:53am Sun 17 Mar 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

Sincere apologies for going off topic but you have this to comment on as top of your news in Bournemouth we have "hailstorm passes over Bournemouth" newsworthy DUH i dont think so
Sincere apologies for going off topic but you have this to comment on as top of your news in Bournemouth we have "hailstorm passes over Bournemouth" newsworthy DUH i dont think so iwishiwaslikeyou
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4:44pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Some of your comments r unnecessary and is upsetting for the familys to read dont judge on something u know nothing about!!!!!!!
Some of your comments r unnecessary and is upsetting for the familys to read dont judge on something u know nothing about!!!!!!! Sam2013
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4:48pm Sun 17 Mar 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

Please enlighten me i what i dont know
Please enlighten me i what i dont know iwishiwaslikeyou
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4:55pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Well we all know the papers aint exactly spot on with all there info! Like i said family dont want to hear ur stupid comments get on with ur own lifes!
Well we all know the papers aint exactly spot on with all there info! Like i said family dont want to hear ur stupid comments get on with ur own lifes! Sam2013
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4:58pm Sun 17 Mar 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

Sam2013 wrote:
Well we all know the papers aint exactly spot on with all there info! Like i said family dont want to hear ur stupid comments get on with ur own lifes!
I suggest you tell t family not to read what they dont want to hear SIMPLES sam2013
[quote][p][bold]Sam2013[/bold] wrote: Well we all know the papers aint exactly spot on with all there info! Like i said family dont want to hear ur stupid comments get on with ur own lifes![/p][/quote]I suggest you tell t family not to read what they dont want to hear SIMPLES sam2013 iwishiwaslikeyou
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5:14pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!!
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Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!! ! Sam2013
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5:40pm Sun 17 Mar 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

Sam2013 wrote:
Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!!

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I SAY thats a bit harsh
[quote][p][bold]Sam2013[/bold] wrote: Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!! ![/p][/quote]I SAY thats a bit harsh iwishiwaslikeyou
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5:55pm Sun 17 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

Sam2013 wrote:
Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!!

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what sort of familys do they come from sam2013 by the sounds of things hill billys who think its there right to take what is not these to take
[quote][p][bold]Sam2013[/bold] wrote: Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!! ![/p][/quote]what sort of familys do they come from sam2013 by the sounds of things hill billys who think its there right to take what is not these to take bigal007
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5:58pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Ur boring.... shhhhh
Ur boring.... shhhhh Sam2013
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6:37pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Hill billys.... no..... u dont no the background of any of there familys so i suggest u keep out of it, go medal in someone eles life.... sad b***h
Hill billys.... no..... u dont no the background of any of there familys so i suggest u keep out of it, go medal in someone eles life.... sad b***h Sam2013
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6:57pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Georgem says...

Sam2013 wrote:
Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!!

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How's this interfering with other people's lives? It's a noddy comment forum on a noddy local news website. Get some perspective.
[quote][p][bold]Sam2013[/bold] wrote: Have u not got anything better to do than interfere in others lives! Ur opinions r not wanted so get on with ur own lives.....SIMPLES!!! ![/p][/quote]How's this interfering with other people's lives? It's a noddy comment forum on a noddy local news website. Get some perspective. Georgem
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7:34pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

@bigal007 & others have u guys not heard of karmer???? Don't mess around with other peoples lives and like @ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Talking about Hill Billys I know two of the families of these children and I can assure you they are far from that... I hope and pray none of you people with your negative comments better wish you don't have any kids or families members who could end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Lets pray you don't have a glass house... I rest my case
@bigal007 & others have u guys not heard of karmer???? Don't mess around with other peoples lives and like @ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Talking about Hill Billys I know two of the families of these children and I can assure you they are far from that... I hope and pray none of you people with your negative comments better wish you don't have any kids or families members who could end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Lets pray you don't have a glass house... I rest my case Lady aurele
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8:25pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Well said @bigal007 :)
Well said @bigal007 :) Sam2013
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8:30pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Sorry ment lady aurele! @bigsl007 go do 1!
Sorry ment lady aurele! @bigsl007 go do 1! Sam2013
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10:30pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Sam2013 wrote:
Hill billys.... no..... u dont no the background of any of there familys so i suggest u keep out of it, go medal in someone eles life.... sad b***h
Are they gypsies then? Or are they just down to earth dodgy geezers
[quote][p][bold]Sam2013[/bold] wrote: Hill billys.... no..... u dont no the background of any of there familys so i suggest u keep out of it, go medal in someone eles life.... sad b***h[/p][/quote]Are they gypsies then? Or are they just down to earth dodgy geezers Pikey-Biker
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6:32am Mon 18 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

we all no what is right and wrong num nuts they got legs they could of walked away so there where grow up with crap child hood as they where not told what was right and wrong its just take take and dont give a crap about the other person who gets hurt

i grow up in sinclair rd in lordshill i new what was right a nd wrong
we all no what is right and wrong num nuts they got legs they could of walked away so there where grow up with crap child hood as they where not told what was right and wrong its just take take and dont give a crap about the other person who gets hurt i grow up in sinclair rd in lordshill i new what was right a nd wrong bigal007
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6:33am Mon 18 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

well the low lifes are behide bars and the streets are safe and these people should hang there there heads in shame
well the low lifes are behide bars and the streets are safe and these people should hang there there heads in shame bigal007
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7:39am Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

Thank you for your comment biai007 I am dashing out the door.... and my comments will keep until this evening..
Thank you for your comment biai007 I am dashing out the door.... and my comments will keep until this evening.. Lady aurele
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9:02am Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Don’t you just love those “one story” commentators shout and defend the indefensible, and then In a couple of days never seen or heard of again
Don’t you just love those “one story” commentators shout and defend the indefensible, and then In a couple of days never seen or heard of again Pikey-Biker
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10:05am Mon 18 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

Lady aurele wrote:
Thank you for your comment biai007 I am dashing out the door.... and my comments will keep until this evening..
cant wait i could crush a grape
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: Thank you for your comment biai007 I am dashing out the door.... and my comments will keep until this evening..[/p][/quote]cant wait i could crush a grape bigal007
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2:29pm Mon 18 Mar 13

kiddynamite says...

@ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.'

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too!

lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum!
@ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too! lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum! kiddynamite
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2:34pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

@sam2013 I take it you are the smartest of the group? If so wow... maybe they should actualy introduce eugenics, you and your mates make a solid case for it...

@Lady Aurele they were adults. Not children. A child I would consider to be about under 10 at the most who might not understand what is wrong or right.
@sam2013 I take it you are the smartest of the group? If so wow... maybe they should actualy introduce eugenics, you and your mates make a solid case for it... @Lady Aurele they were adults. Not children. A child I would consider to be about under 10 at the most who might not understand what is wrong or right. Subject48
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3:00pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

Excuss me!!!!! Judgeing bastards!!! U dont no me or what i do! All of u lot must have no lives just sit at ya computer commenting on stuff that doesnt concern u so mayb ur the 1 that has no job if this is all u do... sad ****! Judging peoples familys that makes u a c***t go poke ya nose in someone eles business!!! And karma will come get u and when it does hope it hits u hard **** hahahahaha
Excuss me!!!!! Judgeing bastards!!! U dont no me or what i do! All of u lot must have no lives just sit at ya computer commenting on stuff that doesnt concern u so mayb ur the 1 that has no job if this is all u do... sad ****! Judging peoples familys that makes u a c***t go poke ya nose in someone eles business!!! And karma will come get u and when it does hope it hits u hard **** hahahahaha Sam2013
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3:04pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

I thought these comments were about the accussed..... not about their familys sad ****
I thought these comments were about the accussed..... not about their familys sad **** Sam2013
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3:05pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

kiddynamite wrote:
@ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too! lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum!
Go **** yourself biatchhhh
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: @ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too! lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum![/p][/quote]Go **** yourself biatchhhh Sam2013
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3:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13

WalkingOnAWire says...

Sam2013 - are you a relative of one of the convicted people?
Sam2013 - are you a relative of one of the convicted people? WalkingOnAWire
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4:12pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

"i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like.

Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content.

I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English.

As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...)

And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us.

I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.
"i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank. Subject48
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4:55pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

Subject48 wrote:
"i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like.

Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content.

I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English.

As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...)

And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us.

I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.
Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person.
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: "i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.[/p][/quote]Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person. rich9999
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5:00pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

Subject48 wrote:
wow no takers yet?

let me start then:

The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc...

Enjoy!
You have no life and enjoy giving people pain, see a psychiatrist.
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: wow no takers yet? let me start then: The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc... Enjoy![/p][/quote]You have no life and enjoy giving people pain, see a psychiatrist. rich9999
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5:01pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
subhuman.
what is, your intelligence?
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: subhuman.[/p][/quote]what is, your intelligence? rich9999
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5:04pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

Linesman wrote:
The story's headline gives the impression that they were given a tough sentence, but they average less than eight years each.

The betting is that they will not serve the complete sentence, so they are living on the state, faring better than a good many pensioners, and then they will be out to cause more mayhem.
why will they living on the state?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: The story's headline gives the impression that they were given a tough sentence, but they average less than eight years each. The betting is that they will not serve the complete sentence, so they are living on the state, faring better than a good many pensioners, and then they will be out to cause more mayhem.[/p][/quote]why will they living on the state? rich9999
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5:05pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

chrisja wrote:
Police mugshots are always so hilariously gay... not so big now are you :D lmao
how pathetic are you
[quote][p][bold]chrisja[/bold] wrote: Police mugshots are always so hilariously gay... not so big now are you :D lmao[/p][/quote]how pathetic are you rich9999
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5:07pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage.
I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.
And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.[/p][/quote]And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least. rich9999
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5:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Sam2013 says...

rich9999 wrote:
Subject48 wrote: "i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.
Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person.
subject48 go back to your computer u Computer Nerd by the sounds Of it you were one of the Little Geeks at School that probably got bullied ha ha ha for that go Play Scrabble or nit because your comments are pathetic
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: "i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.[/p][/quote]Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person.[/p][/quote]subject48 go back to your computer u Computer Nerd by the sounds Of it you were one of the Little Geeks at School that probably got bullied ha ha ha for that go Play Scrabble or nit because your comments are pathetic Sam2013
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6:28pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

I don’t know how you could defend 4 quite nasty, cowardly, despicable people.
I don’t know how you could defend 4 quite nasty, cowardly, despicable people. Pikey-Biker
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6:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

rich9999 wrote:
MiddleOfRoad wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.
And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.
There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.[/p][/quote]And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.[/p][/quote]There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at Pikey-Biker
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6:42pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge.

I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press.

All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see.

It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved.

Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done.

For some life's not that straightforward.
I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward. rich9999
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6:48pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

****-Biker wrote:
rich9999 wrote:
MiddleOfRoad wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.
And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.
There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at
I am an electrician and am unemployed, every job I go for there are over 70 applicants..explain that..whenever a new supermarket opens there are roughly over 2000 applicants for around 200 jobs...explain that..should i retrain? after learning a trade and performing it for 20 years..what should i do then..which courses are available and how do you suggest you get funding for these as i have tried every avenue to get funding for courses...enlighten me please i am obviously doing something wrong... either that or you are making uneducated unfounded guesses rather than finding out and stating fact.
[quote][p][bold]****-Biker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.[/p][/quote]And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.[/p][/quote]There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at[/p][/quote]I am an electrician and am unemployed, every job I go for there are over 70 applicants..explain that..whenever a new supermarket opens there are roughly over 2000 applicants for around 200 jobs...explain that..should i retrain? after learning a trade and performing it for 20 years..what should i do then..which courses are available and how do you suggest you get funding for these as i have tried every avenue to get funding for courses...enlighten me please i am obviously doing something wrong... either that or you are making uneducated unfounded guesses rather than finding out and stating fact. rich9999
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6:54pm Mon 18 Mar 13

rich9999 says...

kiddynamite wrote:
@ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.'

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too!

lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum!
Do you live your life making assumptions before opening your mouth? I expect you do find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time just by being so blind to reality! And name calling! Are you 12? I reckon you are a drain on society as in you are obviously immature and need care. I expect people around you care and protect you or make allowances for your stupidity and childishness without you even realising it.
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: @ Sam2013 said "the papers are not always spot on" I understand two of the lads were in the wrong place at the wrong time.' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha they should have had you on comic relief sam! I assume you dont work and are a drain on society too! lol yeah i often find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time! (in someone elses house stealing stuff and just being a ****!) You stupid idiot!!! I can tell your related to the scum that did this by your pathetic attempt to make a excuse for the putrid scum![/p][/quote]Do you live your life making assumptions before opening your mouth? I expect you do find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time just by being so blind to reality! And name calling! Are you 12? I reckon you are a drain on society as in you are obviously immature and need care. I expect people around you care and protect you or make allowances for your stupidity and childishness without you even realising it. rich9999
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7:22pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

rich9999 wrote:
I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward.
Rich,
I appreciate we don’t know “all “ the facts there are only the most important ones if there are facts that we are not aware then lets hear them but until I do I say all four are nasty thieving vermin and so do many on this forum
At the end of the day these people were judged by a court of law and found guilty. These adult people made their choices in life and now have ended up in prison there are many people who can claim they had a poor upbringing got bullied or some other excuse of why they did what they did but that doesn’t matter now. Perhaps they should dwell on their future life choices whilst they are banged up.
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward.[/p][/quote]Rich, I appreciate we don’t know “all “ the facts there are only the most important ones if there are facts that we are not aware then lets hear them but until I do I say all four are nasty thieving vermin and so do many on this forum At the end of the day these people were judged by a court of law and found guilty. These adult people made their choices in life and now have ended up in prison there are many people who can claim they had a poor upbringing got bullied or some other excuse of why they did what they did but that doesn’t matter now. Perhaps they should dwell on their future life choices whilst they are banged up. Pikey-Biker
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7:28pm Mon 18 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

sam are you the GF of forbs the one from lordshill they a old saying cant do the time dont do the crime easy as that but they new what they where doing as they ran off when the police truned up

they had no right and ye people like this need to be locked up

and i hope the famlieys of these 4 should hang there heads in shame as they did not bring them up right as they dont no right from wrong
sam are you the GF of forbs the one from lordshill they a old saying cant do the time dont do the crime easy as that but they new what they where doing as they ran off when the police truned up they had no right and ye people like this need to be locked up and i hope the famlieys of these 4 should hang there heads in shame as they did not bring them up right as they dont no right from wrong bigal007
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8:02pm Mon 18 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

rich9999 wrote:
I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge.

I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press.

All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see.

It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved.

Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done.

For some life's not that straightforward.
I'm with you in principle with this kind of PoV. Most are literally *unable* to see things that way unfortunately. Unless you've firstly got a reasonable capacity for empathy, and secondly some experience of the lives some people are unfortunate enough to lead, then understanding that it's not just "chavs", or "scum", or some other label for middle-class fears, seems to be beyond most folks.
.
However... these lads' actions - as reported anyway - were premeditated (overalls etc) and involved malicious torment (dragging him around the flat, CS gas etc). That's not just someone caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time, or forced into a corner.
.
I know someone who's been the lead story on here in a major trial - rightly found innocent in the end thankfully. He was presented on here as no different from the scumbag who actually did it and then tried to stitch him up - who was found guilty and won't be out until he's a pensioner. So I'm well aware of how the media can skew perceptions. I expect there's a degree of that in this case as well, but it's hard to imagine just what factors could significantly mitigate for this four.
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward.[/p][/quote]I'm with you in principle with this kind of PoV. Most are literally *unable* to see things that way unfortunately. Unless you've firstly got a reasonable capacity for empathy, and secondly some experience of the lives some people are unfortunate enough to lead, then understanding that it's not just "chavs", or "scum", or some other label for middle-class fears, seems to be beyond most folks. . However... these lads' actions - as reported anyway - were premeditated (overalls etc) and involved malicious torment (dragging him around the flat, CS gas etc). That's not just someone caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time, or forced into a corner. . I know someone who's been the lead story on here in a major trial - rightly found innocent in the end thankfully. He was presented on here as no different from the scumbag who actually did it and then tried to stitch him up - who was found guilty and won't be out until he's a pensioner. So I'm well aware of how the media can skew perceptions. I expect there's a degree of that in this case as well, but it's hard to imagine just what factors could significantly mitigate for this four. cantthinkofone
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8:13pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

rich9999 wrote:
****-Biker wrote:
rich9999 wrote:
MiddleOfRoad wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.
And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.
There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at
I am an electrician and am unemployed, every job I go for there are over 70 applicants..explain that..whenever a new supermarket opens there are roughly over 2000 applicants for around 200 jobs...explain that..should i retrain? after learning a trade and performing it for 20 years..what should i do then..which courses are available and how do you suggest you get funding for these as i have tried every avenue to get funding for courses...enlighten me please i am obviously doing something wrong... either that or you are making uneducated unfounded guesses rather than finding out and stating fact.
Rich,

I think it all depends on how flexible you are on what type of job you are looking for.
I would sign up at job agencies (Gi group London road for example) I would get on the mailing lists of places like the Council, Royal mail and the NHS (there are at least 3 trusts serving Southampton) I think it’s important you don’t rule any type of job out as once you are employed you will find getting a better job much easier. I would give you three organisations a try (Health/Social Care sector) NHS Professionals, Pulse and TQtwentyone.

When I was unemployed I found S.A.R.C to be helpful if only for signposting and City College had some good I.T courses which weren’t that expensive that I was able to fit around my work routine
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]****-Biker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Simply seems to be a case of low life non-productive species probably in receipt of benefits and housing cleaning up their own garbage. I can only hope that this mob upon release are not permitted to resume any form of hard working tax payer funded benefits. It is time that society took a firm common sense stand with species such as these who abuse the very society that sponsors and houses them.[/p][/quote]And i suppose you believe there are enough well paid or even decent jobs to go round..delusional to say the least.[/p][/quote]There are enough jobs to go round if you are prepared to get off your @rse and do the relevant training/courses and be actually prepared to put some effort into it which this group of 4 were not that good at[/p][/quote]I am an electrician and am unemployed, every job I go for there are over 70 applicants..explain that..whenever a new supermarket opens there are roughly over 2000 applicants for around 200 jobs...explain that..should i retrain? after learning a trade and performing it for 20 years..what should i do then..which courses are available and how do you suggest you get funding for these as i have tried every avenue to get funding for courses...enlighten me please i am obviously doing something wrong... either that or you are making uneducated unfounded guesses rather than finding out and stating fact.[/p][/quote]Rich, I think it all depends on how flexible you are on what type of job you are looking for. I would sign up at job agencies (Gi group London road for example) I would get on the mailing lists of places like the Council, Royal mail and the NHS (there are at least 3 trusts serving Southampton) I think it’s important you don’t rule any type of job out as once you are employed you will find getting a better job much easier. I would give you three organisations a try (Health/Social Care sector) NHS Professionals, Pulse and TQtwentyone. When I was unemployed I found S.A.R.C to be helpful if only for signposting and City College had some good I.T courses which weren’t that expensive that I was able to fit around my work routine Pikey-Biker
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8:29pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0(
Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please..
Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community.
Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case.
OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0( Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please.. Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community. Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case. Lady aurele
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8:47pm Mon 18 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

Lady aurele wrote:
OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0(
Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please..
Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community.
Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case.
Your understanding of the law is a little faulty I'm afraid...
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0( Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please.. Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community. Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case.[/p][/quote]Your understanding of the law is a little faulty I'm afraid... cantthinkofone
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8:58pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

cantthinkofone i DONT THINK SO.
cantthinkofone i DONT THINK SO. Lady aurele
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9:01pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Lady aurele wrote:
OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0( Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please.. Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community. Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case.
I will start by saying if you have a problem with any post on this forum then click on “report this post” link and then enter the details required and then let the ECHO sort it out.
So you are stating the victim is a “drug dealer” not as I delve in such dark corners of our city but I hope you are right he may have lawyers also
Secondly Sam2013 has also been guilty of some filthy language as well so I don’t think she will get very far anyway all my comments have been directed at the Four who have been found guilty by court of law I am merely repeating that rather large fact over and over.
You keep banging on about two of these nasty people are innocent , firstly you haven’t told us which two and the reason why and if there was a good reason(s) why they are innocent then why was this not brought up in court


WHY?
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: OMG! You guys have been hard at work... I sat here and wrote about 500 words and then lost it. :0( Firstly, don't bother to comment about my grammer etc. etc. etc. cause I don't give a damm. However what I do give a damm about is "Cyber Bullying" These guys are locked up behind bars for attacking a "drug dealer" who is most probably responsible for injecting drugs into parts of Southampton. Like I said before two of these guys are innocent and yes they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The question you have to ask yourself have you ever had a close friend or family member who has e taken the wrong path in life??? Do all the people on here who have written the degrading and nasty comments not have a heart, as the guys are locked up and will never see these comments. However, their closest family and friends will. Do you for one minute think that any parent would want their child to take the wrong path in life??? Have a heart please.. Have you guys not heard of the "Human Rights act" ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc. Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER. Can I suggest once again you guys think of a constructive way of trying to help our community. Remember what goes around comes around slowly but surely... Cyber Bullying is a criminal offence... I rest my case.[/p][/quote]I will start by saying if you have a problem with any post on this forum then click on “report this post” link and then enter the details required and then let the ECHO sort it out. So you are stating the victim is a “drug dealer” not as I delve in such dark corners of our city but I hope you are right he may have lawyers also Secondly Sam2013 has also been guilty of some filthy language as well so I don’t think she will get very far anyway all my comments have been directed at the Four who have been found guilty by court of law I am merely repeating that rather large fact over and over. You keep banging on about two of these nasty people are innocent , firstly you haven’t told us which two and the reason why and if there was a good reason(s) why they are innocent then why was this not brought up in court WHY? Pikey-Biker
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9:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

Lady aurele wrote:
cantthinkofone i DONT THINK SO.
You posted in in capital letters, so it must be true.
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My post-grad law lecturers must have been mistaken then, sorry about that.
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: cantthinkofone i DONT THINK SO.[/p][/quote]You posted in in capital letters, so it must be true. . My post-grad law lecturers must have been mistaken then, sorry about that. cantthinkofone
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9:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

cantthinkofone THIS WOULD BE IN THE EVENT OF ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH WAS THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOMEONES COMMENT.

i DONT WANT TO NAME ANY NAMES AS THIS COULD HAVE SERIOUS REPROCUSSION TO THE "INNOCENT INDIVUALS" INVOLED .

bEST WISHES
cantthinkofone THIS WOULD BE IN THE EVENT OF ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH WAS THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOMEONES COMMENT. i DONT WANT TO NAME ANY NAMES AS THIS COULD HAVE SERIOUS REPROCUSSION TO THE "INNOCENT INDIVUALS" INVOLED . bEST WISHES Lady aurele
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9:25pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

Judge Burrell told the men: “You managed to break into his house, disable him and steal the drugs he had. It was you Cook who knew of Mr Morrell. I am quite satisfied it was your idea to go there.

PLEASE READ THE ABOVE WHICH CLEARLY STATES WHY THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE
Judge Burrell told the men: “You managed to break into his house, disable him and steal the drugs he had. It was you Cook who knew of Mr Morrell. I am quite satisfied it was your idea to go there. PLEASE READ THE ABOVE WHICH CLEARLY STATES WHY THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE Lady aurele
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9:39pm Mon 18 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

That's very nice, but your claims that posters above could be prosecuted under the ECHR or for murder are still... wrong.
That's very nice, but your claims that posters above could be prosecuted under the ECHR or for murder are still... wrong. cantthinkofone
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9:57pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart..
I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart.. Lady aurele
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11:27pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

rich9999 wrote:
Subject48 wrote: "i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.
Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person.
I have just read the above quote and it is excellent! Well said
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: "i talks like tis coz I is cool and I never tried hard at school coz skool only for loosers yo, brap gangsta go **** yourself biatch braaap!" - Thats what you sound like. Having paid attention in school, a desk job enables me to ridicule a fool like you to my hearts content. I am judging YOU for YOUR own stupidity and your complete and utter inability to converse in proper English. As to the idiots who got dragged into beating another man half to death to steal his 'stash'.... I assume they are the stupid ones in your peer group, which would make you the smartest. (Which does not bode well for your demographic...) And if as you say 'we don kno da full story braap' then please enlighten us. I will happily reconsider my views. Otherwise, jog on you plank.[/p][/quote]Does being able to write or speak in the queens english make you intelligent? Obviously not!, well done for paying attention in school what a good obedient little pupil you were :) Shame that your brain is so crammed full of grammar punctuation and pronunciation that it left little room for deep and open minded thought. If someone is making a comment either way why do you have to try and drag their background into it and whether they are related, that has no relevance on the comment made at all. And i notice that those speaking up for the accused dont employ these tactics..makes you wonder who the intelligent ones are in this conversation. I expect you are a bible basher or someone who believes people are born evil etc **** blah, if you had an ounce of intelligence you would know this not to be true. I also bet you believe everything you read and that everyone in prison is guilty? That all judges and politicians are pure and good..wake up fools this is the real world where people make mistakes and sometimes clear thinking gets blurred for different reasons and the wrong decision gets made. If you had intelligence you would know that the real underlying problems lie in society itself as these people didnt arrive in a spaceship. And did you also know that it costs £43,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison..do you not think that money would be better spent keeping people out of prison!!! We live in f***ed up society which will have its problems, to attack the individuals and assume anything about their lives is not exactly intelligent is it oh goody goody school prefect type person.[/p][/quote]I have just read the above quote and it is excellent! Well said Lady aurele
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11:36pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

rich9999 wrote:
I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward.
Rich 999 well said.
[quote][p][bold]rich9999[/bold] wrote: I'm defending nothing I am trying to think rather than judge. I don't know how you can comment on something and someone you know nothing about apart from what you read in the sensationalist press. All I am saying is try and think a bit deeper, don't make assumptions on little facts. The way I see it all involved in this are victims of society. Some will take a little more brain power to see. It is too easy and simple to jump on a witch hunt, condemnation band wagon, and harmful to everyone involved. Do not sit in your ivory towers judging, try to understand that all is not what you see in some newspaper. People have backgrounds, who knows maybe they were all poor drug addicts not thinking clearly and accidentally got hooked on something, you just don't know. It must be nice to of made all the right decisions in your life well done. For some life's not that straightforward.[/p][/quote]Rich 999 well said. Lady aurele
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11:19am Tue 19 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Lady aurele wrote:
Judge Burrell told the men: “You managed to break into his house, disable him and steal the drugs he had. It was you Cook who knew of Mr Morrell. I am quite satisfied it was your idea to go there. PLEASE READ THE ABOVE WHICH CLEARLY STATES WHY THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE
which proves what?, your statement changes nothing
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: Judge Burrell told the men: “You managed to break into his house, disable him and steal the drugs he had. It was you Cook who knew of Mr Morrell. I am quite satisfied it was your idea to go there. PLEASE READ THE ABOVE WHICH CLEARLY STATES WHY THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE[/p][/quote]which proves what?, your statement changes nothing Pikey-Biker
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4:07pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

I am well entitled to my views. Freedom of expression is also a human right.

@ Rich999 yeh, you are right,everyone in prison is innocent.

I dont claim that taking time to use proper language conventions makes me more inteligent. But, if I truly care abount an issue, care and time should be taken in order for ones opinions to be taken seriously. After all I am dealing with adults am I not? Anything less is just disrepectful to the general public.

If you dont get it thats fine.

You dont have to work as an electrician, any job is better then no job right? Ohh at least thats how ive been brought up.

If you think I dont know that side of life thats your opinion. Bottom line all you have to do is say 'no' and walk away. Making the wrong choice is so much easier. Therefore I have no sympathy here.
I am well entitled to my views. Freedom of expression is also a human right. @ Rich999 yeh, you are right,everyone in prison is innocent. I dont claim that taking time to use proper language conventions makes me more inteligent. But, if I truly care abount an issue, care and time should be taken in order for ones opinions to be taken seriously. After all I am dealing with adults am I not? Anything less is just disrepectful to the general public. If you dont get it thats fine. You dont have to work as an electrician, any job is better then no job right? Ohh at least thats how ive been brought up. If you think I dont know that side of life thats your opinion. Bottom line all you have to do is say 'no' and walk away. Making the wrong choice is so much easier. Therefore I have no sympathy here. Subject48
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5:56pm Tue 19 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

Lady aurele wrote:
I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart..
Agree to disagree all you want, you're still patently incorrect. I suspect your legal training is restricted to reading a few pieces in the media.
.
---"Have you guys not heard of the Human Rights act ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc."
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No. The Echo would only have to pass over ISP details if the police (not lawyers) ordered them too. For this to happen, someone would have had to have committed some sort of crime with their comments, or that their comments could provide evidence for. "Being mean about someone" is not a crime.
.
Before you start harping on about 'cyber bullying' again, please don't. Cyber bullying has to be sustained and targeted harassment. Posting insulting things about recent convicts on a newspaper website comes nowhere close to qualifying.
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---"Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER."
.
No. Just... no. No mens rea, no actus rea, no nothing. It's really an incredibly silly claim to make.
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I've nothing against you, and I genuinely hope you have a wonderful life too, but your armchair lawyering is really, *really* misinformed.
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart..[/p][/quote]Agree to disagree all you want, you're still patently incorrect. I suspect your legal training is restricted to reading a few pieces in the media. . ---"Have you guys not heard of the Human Rights act ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc." . No. The Echo would only have to pass over ISP details if the police (not lawyers) ordered them too. For this to happen, someone would have had to have committed some sort of crime with their comments, or that their comments could provide evidence for. "Being mean about someone" is not a crime. . Before you start harping on about 'cyber bullying' again, please don't. Cyber bullying has to be sustained and targeted harassment. Posting insulting things about recent convicts on a newspaper website comes nowhere close to qualifying. . ---"Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER." . No. Just... no. No mens rea, no actus rea, no nothing. It's really an incredibly silly claim to make. . I've nothing against you, and I genuinely hope you have a wonderful life too, but your armchair lawyering is really, *really* misinformed. cantthinkofone
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6:59pm Tue 19 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Lady aurele wrote:
I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart..
Agree to disagree all you want, you're still patently incorrect. I suspect your legal training is restricted to reading a few pieces in the media.
.
---"Have you guys not heard of the Human Rights act ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc."
.
No. The Echo would only have to pass over ISP details if the police (not lawyers) ordered them too. For this to happen, someone would have had to have committed some sort of crime with their comments, or that their comments could provide evidence for. "Being mean about someone" is not a crime.
.
Before you start harping on about 'cyber bullying' again, please don't. Cyber bullying has to be sustained and targeted harassment. Posting insulting things about recent convicts on a newspaper website comes nowhere close to qualifying.
.
---"Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER."
.
No. Just... no. No mens rea, no actus rea, no nothing. It's really an incredibly silly claim to make.
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I've nothing against you, and I genuinely hope you have a wonderful life too, but your armchair lawyering is really, *really* misinformed.
ye right on !!
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: I think I will agree to disagree.. have a wonderful life & I sincerely mean this from the bottom of my heart..[/p][/quote]Agree to disagree all you want, you're still patently incorrect. I suspect your legal training is restricted to reading a few pieces in the media. . ---"Have you guys not heard of the Human Rights act ? this means that if Sam2013 contacted their lawyers the Daily echo who have to Divulge details (IP address etc.)of people who have made such nasty comments etc. etc. etc." . No. The Echo would only have to pass over ISP details if the police (not lawyers) ordered them too. For this to happen, someone would have had to have committed some sort of crime with their comments, or that their comments could provide evidence for. "Being mean about someone" is not a crime. . Before you start harping on about 'cyber bullying' again, please don't. Cyber bullying has to be sustained and targeted harassment. Posting insulting things about recent convicts on a newspaper website comes nowhere close to qualifying. . ---"Also, if one of their relatives happen to read your nasty comments and ended up taking their own life then you would be done for MURDER." . No. Just... no. No mens rea, no actus rea, no nothing. It's really an incredibly silly claim to make. . I've nothing against you, and I genuinely hope you have a wonderful life too, but your armchair lawyering is really, *really* misinformed.[/p][/quote]ye right on !! bigal007
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11:35pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

Ok you are correct one is entitle to their own views. However, I am sticking to my guns. Calling someone family 'Hill Billy's etc etc" is very unfair as it could be argued that they are as innocent as the "Alleged" victim. Well guys interesting forum I will now move on with a clear Conscience.
Ok you are correct one is entitle to their own views. However, I am sticking to my guns. Calling someone family 'Hill Billy's etc etc" is very unfair as it could be argued that they are as innocent as the "Alleged" victim. Well guys interesting forum I will now move on with a clear Conscience. Lady aurele
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8:28am Wed 20 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Clear conscience just like the four in prison?
Clear conscience just like the four in prison? Pikey-Biker
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9:28am Wed 20 Mar 13

Raxx says...

Lady aurele wrote:
Ok you are correct one is entitle to their own views. However, I am sticking to my guns. Calling someone family 'Hill Billy's etc etc" is very unfair as it could be argued that they are as innocent as the "Alleged" victim. Well guys interesting forum I will now move on with a clear Conscience.
Unfair it may well be, but that doesn't make it an offence in the eyes of the law.
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: Ok you are correct one is entitle to their own views. However, I am sticking to my guns. Calling someone family 'Hill Billy's etc etc" is very unfair as it could be argued that they are as innocent as the "Alleged" victim. Well guys interesting forum I will now move on with a clear Conscience.[/p][/quote]Unfair it may well be, but that doesn't make it an offence in the eyes of the law. Raxx
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9:13pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Lady aurele says...

****-Biker wrote:
Clear conscience just like the four in prison?
Omg!

I have to comment again..now now ****-Biker you r being very silly. Come on now you know what I mean.. I am saying that I am sure the family are upset and ashamed of what has happen and I think it is unfair to call the, "Hill Billys"
[quote][p][bold]****-Biker[/bold] wrote: Clear conscience just like the four in prison?[/p][/quote]Omg! I have to comment again..now now ****-Biker you r being very silly. Come on now you know what I mean.. I am saying that I am sure the family are upset and ashamed of what has happen and I think it is unfair to call the, "Hill Billys" Lady aurele
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10:24pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

defending four "guilty" prisoners is being very silly
defending four "guilty" prisoners is being very silly Pikey-Biker
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6:05pm Sat 23 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

Claiming that someone could be convicted of "Murder" for being mean about them on a local newspaper website is far more silly.
Claiming that someone could be convicted of "Murder" for being mean about them on a local newspaper website is far more silly. cantthinkofone
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10:14pm Sat 23 Mar 13

sabre2th1 says...

Subject48 wrote:
wow no takers yet?

let me start then:

The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc...

Enjoy!
Hahaha, I wish daily echo had a ratings system
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: wow no takers yet? let me start then: The words being used int the posts: "scum" - being repeated over and over - castrate them, hang them up, bring back lynching, blame the romanians(ohh the romanians!!!), drugs are to blame etc... Enjoy![/p][/quote]Hahaha, I wish daily echo had a ratings system sabre2th1
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4:31am Sun 14 Apr 13

Pikey-Biker says...

Lady aurele wrote:
****-Biker wrote: Clear conscience just like the four in prison?
Omg! I have to comment again..now now ****-Biker you r being very silly. Come on now you know what I mean.. I am saying that I am sure the family are upset and ashamed of what has happen and I think it is unfair to call the, "Hill Billys"
Jame's Harbers folks seem really nice people, not! (Please see comments made on this website)
So are the family members of the 4 mentioned on this story decent, law abiding citizens of the community?
[quote][p][bold]Lady aurele[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]****-Biker[/bold] wrote: Clear conscience just like the four in prison?[/p][/quote]Omg! I have to comment again..now now ****-Biker you r being very silly. Come on now you know what I mean.. I am saying that I am sure the family are upset and ashamed of what has happen and I think it is unfair to call the, "Hill Billys"[/p][/quote]Jame's Harbers folks seem really nice people, not! (Please see comments made on this website) So are the family members of the 4 mentioned on this story decent, law abiding citizens of the community? Pikey-Biker
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