Cars spin off motorway in heavy hail storms (From Daily Echo)

When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never had an accident. Seen dozens, caused most of them lol :-)

HEAVY hail storms caused four cars to spin out of control along a Hampshire motorway last night.

NO BAD DRIVING DID.

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

Folkestone Saint wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

Lighten up. You need to get a grip on things!

Folkestone Saint wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

Wrong - you were going too fast for the conditions. Mud & snow tyres on a motorway.. how is that relevant?

Folkestone Saint wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

You answered your own question you had what you call mud and snow tyres on which are meant for (wait for it) mud and snow which are designed for off road use not motorways.

Thanks Ohec
I am far too tactful to get the point made quickly.

Many insurance companies (eg L&G) do not accept "aquaplaning" as a valid excuse, and will not pay-up. Its a bit like "I only had three pints, they must have upped the alcohol count without telling me" whining, which I hear at courts on a weekly basis.

ohec wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

You answered your own question you had what you call mud and snow tyres on which are meant for (wait for it) mud and snow which are designed for off road use not motorways.

If you look at any Police vehicle designed to go off road it will be fitted with 'Mud and Snow' tyres. They do however spend most of their life on Tarmac which the tyres are also designed to run on. The name refers to the pattern which doesn't fill up with 'mud and snow' as easily as as regular road going tyre which won't grip when the tread pattern fills with mud and snow. Some people have driven in dozens of countries and know nothing about the black things that hold them to the road....... Or not.

J.P.M wrote:
Thanks Ohec
I am far too tactful to get the point made quickly.

Many insurance companies (eg L&G) do not accept "aquaplaning" as a valid excuse, and will not pay-up. Its a bit like "I only had three pints, they must have upped the alcohol count without telling me" whining, which I hear at courts on a weekly basis.

Oh dear god. please don't tell us the the J and P in your username stand for Justice of the Peace. it would be horrendous to find out that you had any sort of legalistic power over *anyone*.

jonnyx wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
Thanks Ohec
I am far too tactful to get the point made quickly.

Many insurance companies (eg L&G) do not accept "aquaplaning" as a valid excuse, and will not pay-up. Its a bit like "I only had three pints, they must have upped the alcohol count without telling me" whining, which I hear at courts on a weekly basis.

Oh dear god. please don't tell us the the J and P in your username stand for Justice of the Peace. it would be horrendous to find out that you had any sort of legalistic power over *anyone*.

No, I am a cleaner in the buildings

J.P.M wrote:
Thanks Ohec
I am far too tactful to get the point made quickly.

Many insurance companies (eg L&G) do not accept "aquaplaning" as a valid excuse, and will not pay-up. Its a bit like "I only had three pints, they must have upped the alcohol count without telling me" whining, which I hear at courts on a weekly basis.

Sources, please. Show us how the weather equates to drink-driving.

Went up to Kent Friday evening and have just driven back through lots of rain most of the way, oddly I did not see any bad driving which must be a first.

ohec wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

Comming to the game yesterday and whilst on the M25 driving at approx 55mph I aquaplaned, I have mud and snow tyres on a landrover and it still happend, why? because suddenly there was a large puddle in my lane not because I was driving badly, however "well done you"

You answered your own question you had what you call mud and snow tyres on which are meant for (wait for it) mud and snow which are designed for off road use not motorways.

Your ignorance is showing, these are the standard tyres fitted to Landrovers as they offer superb handling in normal conditions then when called upon do a fantastic job in abnormal conditions to the point that I do not need snow chains however when a flash flood accours apart from a tracked vehicle we will all struggle. jpm you are talking rubbish I used to work in a claims dept and they do pay for aquaplaning

Stoneham way just before junction 4, outside lane is awful for aquaplaning. Not sure if it's the surface or if there is a dip in the road there. Not a problem when you know about it but if your from outside the area you could easily have an accident there without any bad driving.

Inform Al wrote:
Went up to Kent Friday evening and have just driven back through lots of rain most of the way, oddly I did not see any bad driving which must be a first.

Going home after the game yesterday must say the roads were quite good and not too much traffic either, mind you I think quite a lot of people stayed at home due to the weather

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

What is “defensive ” driving? Do you mean careful driving?

S!monOn wrote:

J.P.M wrote:
When will people learn to slow down for the road, traffic and weather conditions??

I have driven in dozens of countries, and I have never had a bump.
Reason:-
Proper, defensive driving.

What is “defensive ” driving? Do you mean careful driving?

And Isle of White = countries

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Inform Al wrote:
Went up to Kent Friday evening and have just driven back through lots of rain most of the way, oddly I did not see any bad driving which must be a first.

Going home after the game yesterday must say the roads were quite good and not too much traffic either, mind you I think quite a lot of people stayed at home due to the weather

Unfortunately my experience was different with nose to nose traffic at the M25 road works that were more stop than start. Due to the heavy rain at that point I was particularly impressed with the standard of careful driving that I do not usually see. Due to a radio announcement of difficulties on the M3 I came down the A3 and was again impressed with the care taken by other drivers, especially when driving directly at a very low sun when coming onto the M27. I don't know if it was due to the difficult conditions but the standard of driving seemed higher than I remember ever seeing before.

Hail caused it! Off!!!!!!! Crap driving caused it! Why do people loose the ability too drive as soon as it rains or turns grey? Everyday when it rains someone crashes on the M27 causing misery for the rest of us! Bloody well pay attention during bad weather!

kiddynamite wrote:
Hail caused it! Off!!!!!!! Crap driving caused it! Why do people loose the ability too drive as soon as it rains or turns grey? Everyday when it rains someone crashes on the M27 causing misery for the rest of us! Bloody well pay attention during bad weather!

Never a crash during good weather then? Bloody well pay attention during any weather I would have thought.

kiddynamite wrote:
Hail caused it! Off!!!!!!! Crap driving caused it! Why do people loose the ability too drive as soon as it rains or turns grey? Everyday when it rains someone crashes on the M27 causing misery for the rest of us! Bloody well pay attention during bad weather!

Even the steps in St Marys were slippy after the hail storm during half time, or by your reasoning it must have been crap walking. Hail = small balls of frozen water = no grip and as it happend suddenly and at night, oh whats the point you just like to "feel" superior don't you

Folkestone Saint wrote:

kiddynamite wrote:
Hail caused it! Off!!!!!!! Crap driving caused it! Why do people loose the ability too drive as soon as it rains or turns grey? Everyday when it rains someone crashes on the M27 causing misery for the rest of us! Bloody well pay attention during bad weather!

Even the steps in St Marys were slippy after the hail storm during half time, or by your reasoning it must have been crap walking. Hail = small balls of frozen water = no grip and as it happend suddenly and at night, oh whats the point you just like to "feel" superior don't you

I think he's happy to feel anyone.