Southampton residents join national protest against 'bedroom tax' (From Daily Echo)

I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

It's difficult to find the words to reply to this rubbish.

So I will start with NO THEY HAVEN'T.

You are either telling a lie in order to make your own party look good or you have invented this in your own fantasy world.

Given that most of your posts are bizzare fiction I will be charitable and assume the latter.

Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

..gosh, there are no more than 30 in that photo. You told us two weeks ago there were already 58 signed up to attend and implied many more than that would be there.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

..gosh, there are no more than 30 in that photo. You told us two weeks ago there were already 58 signed up to attend and implied many more than that would be there.

Yes I know free, 51 people i think you find i said, but many went to the one in winchester where the SP organise a demo, this one here in Southampton was organise by "stand up on the south coast"

HillsidePaul wrote:

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

It's difficult to find the words to reply to this rubbish.

So I will start with NO THEY HAVEN'T.

You are either telling a lie in order to make your own party look good or you have invented this in your own fantasy world.

Given that most of your posts are bizzare fiction I will be charitable and assume the latter.

The Labour did say that they will keep the welfare reform intact, Milliband said that and when he did it the recording flew around the left wingers on FB.

southy wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

It's difficult to find the words to reply to this rubbish.

So I will start with NO THEY HAVEN'T.

You are either telling a lie in order to make your own party look good or you have invented this in your own fantasy world.

Given that most of your posts are bizzare fiction I will be charitable and assume the latter.

The Labour did say that they will keep the welfare reform intact, Milliband said that and when he did it the recording flew around the left wingers on FB.

when the link comes up again i will post it for you hillside, but at the moment fb seems to be full of cypus banking

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

Wealthfare refroms? Seriously, you really need to take lessons in writing English.

does that mean that it will cost the government more because a lot of the houses with disabled people in them have been adapted for the disabled person and if they now downsize the governmen t will need to pay for all the adaptions again. I dont think that much thought was put into this idea or they never thought about anybody that is disabled. DISGRACEFUL.

There's an old lady round my way who lives in a three bed council house but lives solely on the ground floor. These are the kind of people who this is meant to effect. Unfortunately there will always be a minority of people who will be worse off as with most "reforms", it's not fair, but that's how it is.

AD07881 wrote:
There's an old lady round my way who lives in a three bed council house but lives solely on the ground floor. These are the kind of people who this is meant to effect. Unfortunately there will always be a minority of people who will be worse off as with most "reforms", it's not fair, but that's how it is.

You make a good point but there is a world of difference between encouraging people to downsize (most Councils already have schemes to do so) and forcing them out.

Also the bedroom tax will not apply to pensioners so the lady you speak of will not be affected.

Can Council Tenants sub-let rooms?
Just wondering if some people may be able to rent a room out and earn an additional income, thereby lowering the amount of benefit claims and keeping their larger home?

I ask the question about sub-letting as private tenants are not allowed under a normal agreement.

HillsidePaul wrote:

AD07881 wrote:
There's an old lady round my way who lives in a three bed council house but lives solely on the ground floor. These are the kind of people who this is meant to effect. Unfortunately there will always be a minority of people who will be worse off as with most "reforms", it's not fair, but that's how it is.

You make a good point but there is a world of difference between encouraging people to downsize (most Councils already have schemes to do so) and forcing them out.

Also the bedroom tax will not apply to pensioners so the lady you speak of will not be affected.

Your joking right? Doesn't apply to pensioners!!! In terms of living in houses that are bigger than needed, they have to be the worst offenders surely.

No not joking. it doesn't apply to pensioners.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
I think councillor Satvir Kaur is in the wrong political party as the Labour party as all ready said they will not get rid of the bed room tax and keep all wealthfare refroms in place.

..gosh, there are no more than 30 in that photo. You told us two weeks ago there were already 58 signed up to attend and implied many more than that would be there.

Yes I know free, 51 people i think you find i said, but many went to the one in winchester where the SP organise a demo, this one here in Southampton was organise by "stand up on the south coast"

.. ah, I see. And the excuse for the Winchester demo being so badly attended was, I suppose, they all went to Southampton?

That's right, any excuse to hide the fact that your optimism for huge demos throughout the land just didn't materialise.

freefinker, did you do a review of clangers for February, as you did with the January one?

IronLady2010 wrote:
freefinker, did you do a review of clangers for February, as you did with the January one?

Alas, no. I just couldn't keep up, what with all the errors and howlers during the by election. March is looking quite good though.

freefinker wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
freefinker, did you do a review of clangers for February, as you did with the January one?

Alas, no. I just couldn't keep up, what with all the errors and howlers during the by election. March is looking quite good though.

I was almost off to buy a bottle of wine in anticipation........
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Oh dear what a bunch of sorry looking people no wonder they don't have jobs! I think the bedroom tax is one of the best ideas the government have come up with in a very long time. Why should these people be allowed to sit in their massive council houses without having to lift a finger to support themselves when some people face real hardship to make ends meet even though they work their a***s off?. Average working families are paying through the noses to rent privateley all over this country, most of them will never get a council house because of the selfish idiots who want to have cake and eat it - each and every one of them has had the right to buy for a very long time now so if they really love their homes so much, why haven't they?. - because they want everything for free is the answer! sureley it is about time they stopped getting it easy? I live in a council house myself, being one of the lucky few who was in the right place at the right time - with 2 children under 10, we struggle to make ends meet even though we both work full time but the bedroom tax will not affect us because we dont qualify for benefits anyway but we still have to pay the increse in council tax, water and utilities without a pay rise - am i moaning? NO! and as for moaning about not being able to get a move from the council, that is not true, they are moaning because the council will no longer pay them to move. There are hundreds of families in smaller properties wanting to pay for bigger in this city on several homeswapper sites so stop with the silly excuses!

kiddynamite wrote:
Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:
Oh dear what a bunch of sorry looking people no wonder they don't have jobs! I think the bedroom tax is one of the best ideas the government have come up with in a very long time. Why should these people be allowed to sit in their massive council houses without having to lift a finger to support themselves when some people face real hardship to make ends meet even though they work their a***s off?. Average working families are paying through the noses to rent privateley all over this country, most of them will never get a council house because of the selfish idiots who want to have cake and eat it - each and every one of them has had the right to buy for a very long time now so if they really love their homes so much, why haven't they?. - because they want everything for free is the answer! sureley it is about time they stopped getting it easy? I live in a council house myself, being one of the lucky few who was in the right place at the right time - with 2 children under 10, we struggle to make ends meet even though we both work full time but the bedroom tax will not affect us because we dont qualify for benefits anyway but we still have to pay the increse in council tax, water and utilities without a pay rise - am i moaning? NO! and as for moaning about not being able to get a move from the council, that is not true, they are moaning because the council will no longer pay them to move. There are hundreds of families in smaller properties wanting to pay for bigger in this city on several homeswapper sites so stop with the silly excuses!

Then your a lucky c.unt then! You b'stard giving it the big one. I hope you fall on bad times and the council kick you out you c.unt!

Chill out.

Anyone who uses the C word deserves the worst, they are the lowest of the low. END OF.

The Government give people a minimum amount to live on which is above poverty level.

You can easily eat a good healthy meal for two on £3 a day maximum. A packet of mixed FRESH cauliflower and broccoli is £1, baby pearl FRESH potatoes a big bag £1, Steak pies 4 for £2, you could even treat yourself to some tinned peas and sweetcorn.

No excuses for not eating cheap, unless you want to do the cheap option of expensive takeaways?

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:
Oh dear what a bunch of sorry looking people no wonder they don't have jobs! I think the bedroom tax is one of the best ideas the government have come up with in a very long time. Why should these people be allowed to sit in their massive council houses without having to lift a finger to support themselves when some people face real hardship to make ends meet even though they work their a***s off?. Average working families are paying through the noses to rent privateley all over this country, most of them will never get a council house because of the selfish idiots who want to have cake and eat it - each and every one of them has had the right to buy for a very long time now so if they really love their homes so much, why haven't they?. - because they want everything for free is the answer! sureley it is about time they stopped getting it easy? I live in a council house myself, being one of the lucky few who was in the right place at the right time - with 2 children under 10, we struggle to make ends meet even though we both work full time but the bedroom tax will not affect us because we dont qualify for benefits anyway but we still have to pay the increse in council tax, water and utilities without a pay rise - am i moaning? NO! and as for moaning about not being able to get a move from the council, that is not true, they are moaning because the council will no longer pay them to move. There are hundreds of families in smaller properties wanting to pay for bigger in this city on several homeswapper sites so stop with the silly excuses!

Then your a lucky c.unt then! You b'stard giving it the big one. I hope you fall on bad times and the council kick you out you c.unt!

Oh dear bazzeroz have I hit a nerve? Is this the bit where you tell me that you cant find work because there is nothing out there? I suppose it is your right to live in a council house rent free is it? I have fallen on hard times recently actually - I lost my job a week before Christmas and do you know what I did? I went out and got another one - it took me over a month but perserverance and actually wanting to work paid off! Also, interesting that your only argument to my comments are to call me names - kind of proves my point doesn't it? It's wasters like you that give ppl like me a bad name but the difference is that in another ten years I will own my home from sheer hard work and my children will have work ethic - you and yours will not.

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

What do you know about me? You know I'm angry but you have no idea who I am, what I do or anything. Yes I lost it. I'm not sorry I lost it. Til now no one really cared about people on benefits oh!, there is always the one's who spout 'get a job' but what about the genuine cases? Are they all the same? No they're not. Don't you have someone withing your family on benefits? I bet you do and, are they the lowest of the low? In your eyes, maybe, so I, wouldn't like to be in your family. I am just sticking up for some of the poorest (and I've been there and don't wish to return there either) in this country. How much more can they be trodden on? The benefit system is here to help not, give with one hand and take back with two. That's what's happening here. It's not the case of an extra bedroom it's about making the poorest pay. Once again I reiterate, I hope you never need help because frankly you don't sound worthy!

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

What do you know about me? You know I'm angry but you have no idea who I am, what I do or anything. Yes I lost it. I'm not sorry I lost it. Til now no one really cared about people on benefits oh!, there is always the one's who spout 'get a job' but what about the genuine cases? Are they all the same? No they're not. Don't you have someone withing your family on benefits? I bet you do and, are they the lowest of the low? In your eyes, maybe, so I, wouldn't like to be in your family. I am just sticking up for some of the poorest (and I've been there and don't wish to return there either) in this country. How much more can they be trodden on? The benefit system is here to help not, give with one hand and take back with two. That's what's happening here. It's not the case of an extra bedroom it's about making the poorest pay. Once again I reiterate, I hope you never need help because frankly you don't sound worthy!

Oh! finally an actual statement where i am not being lablelled with the c word for having an opinion! sure I have claimed benefits in the past when i have found myself in a tough situation and i know plenty of people who are on them now - some want to work and some really genuinely do not. those that do not don't deserve anything as far as i am concerned! the benefit system is suppost to be a short term fix for people who have fallen on hard times yet it has become a way of life. Thatcher made it possible for millions of people to become homeowners easily over 20 years ago and the only reason some have lived in a council house for years on end without buying is because they were having their rent paid for them by the taxpayer, a weekly dss cheque and free school meals for their offspring! it was considered easy and the reason i know this? MY OWN PARENTS WERE DOING IT! because they could, because they were allowed to by the government and because everyone around them was doing the same thing and that is an unfortunate fact.cash in hand jobs and housing benefit were a way of life for me - I thaught it was normal! well let me tell you that after spending six months on the social with a small child and settling for the basics was enough to make me want to do better for my children and i have worked ever since! I watch some of my family struggle on but I dont feel guilty when i drive past them at the bus stop or when my kids have more under the tree than theirs do, why should I? I work my A** off while they go to bingo!so why should I pay my rent, scrape my council tax together and then pay yours so you can have an extra bedroom? I worked hard for my extra room mate, what did you do??

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

What do you know about me? You know I'm angry but you have no idea who I am, what I do or anything. Yes I lost it. I'm not sorry I lost it. Til now no one really cared about people on benefits oh!, there is always the one's who spout 'get a job' but what about the genuine cases? Are they all the same? No they're not. Don't you have someone withing your family on benefits? I bet you do and, are they the lowest of the low? In your eyes, maybe, so I, wouldn't like to be in your family. I am just sticking up for some of the poorest (and I've been there and don't wish to return there either) in this country. How much more can they be trodden on? The benefit system is here to help not, give with one hand and take back with two. That's what's happening here. It's not the case of an extra bedroom it's about making the poorest pay. Once again I reiterate, I hope you never need help because frankly you don't sound worthy!

Oh! finally an actual statement where i am not being lablelled with the c word for having an opinion! sure I have claimed benefits in the past when i have found myself in a tough situation and i know plenty of people who are on them now - some want to work and some really genuinely do not. those that do not don't deserve anything as far as i am concerned! the benefit system is suppost to be a short term fix for people who have fallen on hard times yet it has become a way of life. Thatcher made it possible for millions of people to become homeowners easily over 20 years ago and the only reason some have lived in a council house for years on end without buying is because they were having their rent paid for them by the taxpayer, a weekly dss cheque and free school meals for their offspring! it was considered easy and the reason i know this? MY OWN PARENTS WERE DOING IT! because they could, because they were allowed to by the government and because everyone around them was doing the same thing and that is an unfortunate fact.cash in hand jobs and housing benefit were a way of life for me - I thaught it was normal! well let me tell you that after spending six months on the social with a small child and settling for the basics was enough to make me want to do better for my children and i have worked ever since! I watch some of my family struggle on but I dont feel guilty when i drive past them at the bus stop or when my kids have more under the tree than theirs do, why should I? I work my A** off while they go to bingo!so why should I pay my rent, scrape my council tax together and then pay yours so you can have an extra bedroom? I worked hard for my extra room mate, what did you do??

You still don't know me so don't label me, mate!

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

What do you know about me? You know I'm angry but you have no idea who I am, what I do or anything. Yes I lost it. I'm not sorry I lost it. Til now no one really cared about people on benefits oh!, there is always the one's who spout 'get a job' but what about the genuine cases? Are they all the same? No they're not. Don't you have someone withing your family on benefits? I bet you do and, are they the lowest of the low? In your eyes, maybe, so I, wouldn't like to be in your family. I am just sticking up for some of the poorest (and I've been there and don't wish to return there either) in this country. How much more can they be trodden on? The benefit system is here to help not, give with one hand and take back with two. That's what's happening here. It's not the case of an extra bedroom it's about making the poorest pay. Once again I reiterate, I hope you never need help because frankly you don't sound worthy!

Oh! finally an actual statement where i am not being lablelled with the c word for having an opinion! sure I have claimed benefits in the past when i have found myself in a tough situation and i know plenty of people who are on them now - some want to work and some really genuinely do not. those that do not don't deserve anything as far as i am concerned! the benefit system is suppost to be a short term fix for people who have fallen on hard times yet it has become a way of life. Thatcher made it possible for millions of people to become homeowners easily over 20 years ago and the only reason some have lived in a council house for years on end without buying is because they were having their rent paid for them by the taxpayer, a weekly dss cheque and free school meals for their offspring! it was considered easy and the reason i know this? MY OWN PARENTS WERE DOING IT! because they could, because they were allowed to by the government and because everyone around them was doing the same thing and that is an unfortunate fact.cash in hand jobs and housing benefit were a way of life for me - I thaught it was normal! well let me tell you that after spending six months on the social with a small child and settling for the basics was enough to make me want to do better for my children and i have worked ever since! I watch some of my family struggle on but I dont feel guilty when i drive past them at the bus stop or when my kids have more under the tree than theirs do, why should I? I work my A** off while they go to bingo!so why should I pay my rent, scrape my council tax together and then pay yours so you can have an extra bedroom? I worked hard for my extra room mate, what did you do??

You still don't know me so don't label me, mate!

Tell us who you are then, if your so keen on using that as your defence. Remember that this is a forum, of course we don't know you, but most of us will already have made our own assumptions based on your previous posts.

And in case you hadn't realised, it doesn't look clever.

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

menotyou wrote:

bazzeroz wrote:

kiddynamite wrote: Get a job pay your own rent and you can have 20 bedrooms if you like!!! Pfft at people whining, you get your rent for free so stop complaining! I wish somebody would pay my rent/mortgage for me!

Your full of fcucking s.hite! Just step back and see what you have said! I was on that protest Saturday and 3 people told me to 'get a job'. Do they know me? No! You may well find yourself in that situation tomorrow and, I hope you don't because its awful. Thatcher started this problem and the Tory party are following it through. Its the same as ethnic cleansing. If this was a war zone CaMORON and Ian Dun-nuffink Smith would be charged with war crimes. So, get off your fcucking high horse and wake up to reality you c.unt!

I am really curious about something bazzeroz, You do KNOW, don't you? that your council house is not YOURS? You rent it from the local authority because they allow you to. if you want to keep it, pay for it. It really is that simple - you seem angry though - could it be a toss up between staying in your big cushty house and eating takeaways every night?

What do you know about me? You know I'm angry but you have no idea who I am, what I do or anything. Yes I lost it. I'm not sorry I lost it. Til now no one really cared about people on benefits oh!, there is always the one's who spout 'get a job' but what about the genuine cases? Are they all the same? No they're not. Don't you have someone withing your family on benefits? I bet you do and, are they the lowest of the low? In your eyes, maybe, so I, wouldn't like to be in your family. I am just sticking up for some of the poorest (and I've been there and don't wish to return there either) in this country. How much more can they be trodden on? The benefit system is here to help not, give with one hand and take back with two. That's what's happening here. It's not the case of an extra bedroom it's about making the poorest pay. Once again I reiterate, I hope you never need help because frankly you don't sound worthy!

Oh! finally an actual statement where i am not being lablelled with the c word for having an opinion! sure I have claimed benefits in the past when i have found myself in a tough situation and i know plenty of people who are on them now - some want to work and some really genuinely do not. those that do not don't deserve anything as far as i am concerned! the benefit system is suppost to be a short term fix for people who have fallen on hard times yet it has become a way of life. Thatcher made it possible for millions of people to become homeowners easily over 20 years ago and the only reason some have lived in a council house for years on end without buying is because they were having their rent paid for them by the taxpayer, a weekly dss cheque and free school meals for their offspring! it was considered easy and the reason i know this? MY OWN PARENTS WERE DOING IT! because they could, because they were allowed to by the government and because everyone around them was doing the same thing and that is an unfortunate fact.cash in hand jobs and housing benefit were a way of life for me - I thaught it was normal! well let me tell you that after spending six months on the social with a small child and settling for the basics was enough to make me want to do better for my children and i have worked ever since! I watch some of my family struggle on but I dont feel guilty when i drive past them at the bus stop or when my kids have more under the tree than theirs do, why should I? I work my A** off while they go to bingo!so why should I pay my rent, scrape my council tax together and then pay yours so you can have an extra bedroom? I worked hard for my extra room mate, what did you do??

You still don't know me so don't label me, mate!

I know you are quick enough to come on here and throw nasty comments at people, I know you seem to think you are owed something from the state and i know you believe it enough to turn up to a protest when they try and take something away from you which you had no moral right to in the first place and I know that you know that I am right! Food for thaught? i found my latest job here - indeed.co.uk