Vets reveal that 11 dogs kiiled by poison in New Forest

Daily Echo: Henry and Marie-Anne Richardson with Sqibby Henry and Marie-Anne Richardson with Sqibby

The number of dogs killed by a mystery toxin in the New Forest has risen to 11.

An investigation is continuing in a bid to discover the source of the poison, which has caused acute kidney failure in dogs that have been exercised at Latchmore Brook, near Fordingbridge.

One of the 12 dogs affected so far survived but the others have all died.

The dog that survived was a four-year-old Jack Russell called Squibby, owned by Henry and Marie-Anne Richardson. She spent nine days on a drip and took weeks to make a full recovery.

New Forest District Council, the Environment Agency and the Forestry Commission have joined forces in a bid to solve the mystery.

A council spokesman said: “There have been no new cases since March 1. However, six further possible cases occurring prior to March 1 have recently come to light, making a total of 12 possible cases to date.

“Environmental and veterinary investigations are continuing and all practical steps are being taken to establish the cause.”

Anyone with any information that could help the investigation is urged to telephone the Forestry Commission spokesman on 023 8028 3141.

The council spokesman added: “Dog owners should be vigilant and contact their vet if they have any concerns about the health of their dogs.”

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1:46pm Tue 26 Mar 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers? OSPREYSAINT
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2:32pm Tue 26 Mar 13

southy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple southy
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3:21pm Tue 26 Mar 13

An0nymous/735PONSE says...

Its chemtrails... governments and corporations have been experimenting on the public with numerous toxins and chemicals for ages now...

dont believe me? look into it
Its chemtrails... governments and corporations have been experimenting on the public with numerous toxins and chemicals for ages now... dont believe me? look into it An0nymous/735PONSE
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3:25pm Tue 26 Mar 13

House Sparrow says...

southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground. House Sparrow
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3:54pm Tue 26 Mar 13

freefinker says...

House Sparrow wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
.. oh dear. Do you really think southy is put off by lack of evidence? Never stopped him in the past.
[quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.[/p][/quote].. oh dear. Do you really think southy is put off by lack of evidence? Never stopped him in the past. freefinker
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4:03pm Tue 26 Mar 13

southy says...

House Sparrow wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures.
There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see.
Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there.
I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.
[quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.[/p][/quote]Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures. There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see. Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there. I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted. southy
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4:15pm Tue 26 Mar 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
House Sparrow wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures.
There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see.
Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there.
I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.
.. your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility.

As for oak apples and fungi; are you aware they are found throughout the New Forest? So, explain how they could be responsible for dogs being poisoned in just this one location?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.[/p][/quote]Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures. There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see. Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there. I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.[/p][/quote].. your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility. As for oak apples and fungi; are you aware they are found throughout the New Forest? So, explain how they could be responsible for dogs being poisoned in just this one location? freefinker
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5:09pm Tue 26 Mar 13

Sovietobserver says...

Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground.
It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.
Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground. It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case. Sovietobserver
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6:04pm Tue 26 Mar 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

southy wrote:
House Sparrow wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures.
There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see.
Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there.
I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.
The Fallow deer are spotted as are some species of Woodpecker.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.[/p][/quote]Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures. There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see. Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there. I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.[/p][/quote]The Fallow deer are spotted as are some species of Woodpecker. OSPREYSAINT
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7:25pm Tue 26 Mar 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

An0nymous/735PONSE wrote:
Its chemtrails... governments and corporations have been experimenting on the public with numerous toxins and chemicals for ages now...

dont believe me? look into it
Is there a Doctor in the house? This man needs help.
[quote][p][bold]An0nymous/735PONSE[/bold] wrote: Its chemtrails... governments and corporations have been experimenting on the public with numerous toxins and chemicals for ages now... dont believe me? look into it[/p][/quote]Is there a Doctor in the house? This man needs help. Sir Ad E Noid
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7:14am Wed 27 Mar 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
House Sparrow wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple
Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.
Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures.
There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see.
Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there.
I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.
.. your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility.

As for oak apples and fungi; are you aware they are found throughout the New Forest? So, explain how they could be responsible for dogs being poisoned in just this one location?
The toxins can very from area to area even year by year, as for fungi most types of fungi will only grow in certain types conditions, you might get plenty of one type where as another type might only grow in few places, but I would favour the stream more than others, more likely every dog as walk into the stream and afterward lick it self clean, or it might of drunk the stream water.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]There is that to think about Osprey, but also what about fungi or Oak apple[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, but there is no evidence that Oak Apples are poisonous (they just do not taste very nice!) and at this time of year fungi do not have fruiting bodies and are hidden well under ground.[/p][/quote]Oak Apples to humans they don't just taste very nice, the tree defence produce a toxin which ends up in the spondey layers of the apple, or less harmless to humans but want about smaller creatures. There are fruiting body of fungi most of the year around, but its not the fruiting body i would be thinking about this time of the year, fungi roots system could be on the under side of a leaf, or with in an inch under the ground, where the eyes can not see. Then there is also the stream to think about, some thing could of been dump at the top of the stream and its been working its way down. might be worth looking for other animal wild life and see what is there and what is not there. I going to try and get out there in the area and have a look around see what can be spotted.[/p][/quote].. your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility. As for oak apples and fungi; are you aware they are found throughout the New Forest? So, explain how they could be responsible for dogs being poisoned in just this one location?[/p][/quote]The toxins can very from area to area even year by year, as for fungi most types of fungi will only grow in certain types conditions, you might get plenty of one type where as another type might only grow in few places, but I would favour the stream more than others, more likely every dog as walk into the stream and afterward lick it self clean, or it might of drunk the stream water. southy
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7:16am Wed 27 Mar 13

southy says...

Sovietobserver wrote:
Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground.
It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.
Now you are thinking
[quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground. It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.[/p][/quote]Now you are thinking southy
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9:28am Wed 27 Mar 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground.
It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.
Now you are thinking
.. no, that's NOT thinking; it's called research, followed by suggestions that flow from that research.

You should try it one day.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground. It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.[/p][/quote]Now you are thinking[/p][/quote].. no, that's NOT thinking; it's called research, followed by suggestions that flow from that research. You should try it one day. freefinker
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10:37am Wed 27 Mar 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground.
It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.
Now you are thinking
.. no, that's NOT thinking; it's called research, followed by suggestions that flow from that research.

You should try it one day.
no thats thinking, some thing you seem unable to do, its like that i know where the gun powder was made on the blackwaters rivers, with out doing any research but i would suggest you to do some historical research because your unable to think.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: Some historical research will reveal that Latchmore Brook is fed from water flowing from Eyeworth Pond at the head of the valley near Fritham. This pond was originally created as an industrial reservoir many years ago to serve as a water supply for the many processes worked at the nearby Schultze Gunpowder Factory. Although the sixty buildings on the site were demolished, quantities of sulphuric and nitric deposits contaminated the surrounding ground. It may be possible through there being a very high ground water levels in the area over the past few months, higher than for many years, these deposits have been dislodged and 'flushed' at a much more concentrated rate than in other periods of high rainfall. This may be worth investigating by the appropriate authorities in this case.[/p][/quote]Now you are thinking[/p][/quote].. no, that's NOT thinking; it's called research, followed by suggestions that flow from that research. You should try it one day.[/p][/quote]no thats thinking, some thing you seem unable to do, its like that i know where the gun powder was made on the blackwaters rivers, with out doing any research but i would suggest you to do some historical research because your unable to think. southy
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12:55pm Wed 27 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

guys guys. southy is always right. about everything. Just accept this fact....
guys guys. southy is always right. about everything. Just accept this fact.... Subject48
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2:00pm Wed 27 Mar 13

southy says...

48 you missed the point also.
it don't matter which way you look at it free failed to think.
i mention the stream and Sovietobserver mention what was up higher on the stream, weather if Sovietobserver all ready knew or not it don't matter, the fact is that he debated it and added on to the subject, secondary and third causes, free could not debate it any more than it all ready have done.
48 you missed the point also. it don't matter which way you look at it free failed to think. i mention the stream and Sovietobserver mention what was up higher on the stream, weather if Sovietobserver all ready knew or not it don't matter, the fact is that he debated it and added on to the subject, secondary and third causes, free could not debate it any more than it all ready have done. southy
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2:26pm Wed 27 Mar 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?
Thanks for the correction, have they established how the toxins got into the animals, it doesn't appear to have been through eating stuff, so through the skin via cuts perhaps? This would enhance the high water table propostion with fluid leaching into surface water.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Quote: She spent nine days on a trip and took weeks to make a full recovery. Unless it was hallucinogenic I think that should read on a drip? Could it have been poison put down to kill foxes, or raptors by gamekeepers?[/p][/quote]Thanks for the correction, have they established how the toxins got into the animals, it doesn't appear to have been through eating stuff, so through the skin via cuts perhaps? This would enhance the high water table propostion with fluid leaching into surface water. OSPREYSAINT
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3:10pm Wed 27 Mar 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
48 you missed the point also.
it don't matter which way you look at it free failed to think.
i mention the stream and Sovietobserver mention what was up higher on the stream, weather if Sovietobserver all ready knew or not it don't matter, the fact is that he debated it and added on to the subject, secondary and third causes, free could not debate it any more than it all ready have done.
.. did I not say 'your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility'?

.. did I nor debunk your crab apple and fungi suggestion?

It's not 'thinking' that's required, it's getting to the FACTS of the situation and then taking the appropriate action.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: 48 you missed the point also. it don't matter which way you look at it free failed to think. i mention the stream and Sovietobserver mention what was up higher on the stream, weather if Sovietobserver all ready knew or not it don't matter, the fact is that he debated it and added on to the subject, secondary and third causes, free could not debate it any more than it all ready have done.[/p][/quote].. did I not say 'your something dumped in the stream theory just may be a possibility'? .. did I nor debunk your crab apple and fungi suggestion? It's not 'thinking' that's required, it's getting to the FACTS of the situation and then taking the appropriate action. freefinker
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10:30am Fri 5 Apr 13

Rainey999 says...

This has not gone away and is not restricted to the ogdens area !!??
My daughters' 2 year old fit, healthy gorgeous dalmation cross had to be put to sleep on 4th April. He only walked from the smugglers road car park near ring wood and did a circular route via picket post he was last there on 24th march, on 26th he developed a lesion on his paw (he had not injured himself on his walk), we took him to the vet and on that day noticed a lesion on his tongue, despite the vets doing everything they could to protect his kidneys, renal failure started to present via blood tests on 1st April and by the 2nd April he had complete renal failure and we had to make the very sad decision.
Despite all of our efforts, we cannot get the authorities to alert people to these facts and enable dog owners to make informed decisions about walking in the new forest
This has not gone away and is not restricted to the ogdens area !!?? My daughters' 2 year old fit, healthy gorgeous dalmation cross had to be put to sleep on 4th April. He only walked from the smugglers road car park near ring wood and did a circular route via picket post he was last there on 24th march, on 26th he developed a lesion on his paw (he had not injured himself on his walk), we took him to the vet and on that day noticed a lesion on his tongue, despite the vets doing everything they could to protect his kidneys, renal failure started to present via blood tests on 1st April and by the 2nd April he had complete renal failure and we had to make the very sad decision. Despite all of our efforts, we cannot get the authorities to alert people to these facts and enable dog owners to make informed decisions about walking in the new forest Rainey999
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