Fewer Southampton pupils going to university than other cities

Daily Echo: Fewer pupils going to uni than from other cities Fewer pupils going to uni than from other cities

FEWER youngsters from Southampton go on to study at university than do in most of the rest of the UK.

New figures show that 31 per cent of teenagers in the city went on to higher education after completing their A-levels in 2010/11.

The statistics, released by the Department for Education (DfE), show the figure for Hampshire is 42 per cent.

The number of students going to university from Southampton is well below the 43 per cent average for the whole of the South East, and far less than Reading (61 per cent) or some areas of London where the figure is as high as 66 per cent.

And only seven per cent of A-level students in Southampton go on to study at the top third of the country's universities.

That figure was 14 per cent for Hampshire.

After the figures were released earlier today, Schools Minister David Laws said: ''These statistics demonstrate the gulf between the schools and colleges which deliver for their students - and those which do not.

''Some students will be aiming to get a job after college, others will be hoping to win a place at a great university. But all schools and colleges must ensure they deliver for all their students - whatever that student's target.''

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5:44pm Thu 20 Jun 13

03alpe01 says...

Finally! People are getting used to the idea that they've been brainwashed all these years and are deciding against going to Uni. You only need a degree for a handful of jobs these days and people are finally starting to realise that. Ever wondered why you get so many Uni graduates working in coffee shops?
Finally! People are getting used to the idea that they've been brainwashed all these years and are deciding against going to Uni. You only need a degree for a handful of jobs these days and people are finally starting to realise that. Ever wondered why you get so many Uni graduates working in coffee shops? 03alpe01

9:46pm Thu 20 Jun 13

gristle says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Finally! People are getting used to the idea that they've been brainwashed all these years and are deciding against going to Uni. You only need a degree for a handful of jobs these days and people are finally starting to realise that. Ever wondered why you get so many Uni graduates working in coffee shops?
Eh? Do you really think that badly educated Sotonians represent 'people'
The report covers the whole of the UK.
Try taking a broader view - it might be difficult, but you must try harder.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Finally! People are getting used to the idea that they've been brainwashed all these years and are deciding against going to Uni. You only need a degree for a handful of jobs these days and people are finally starting to realise that. Ever wondered why you get so many Uni graduates working in coffee shops?[/p][/quote]Eh? Do you really think that badly educated Sotonians represent 'people' The report covers the whole of the UK. Try taking a broader view - it might be difficult, but you must try harder. gristle

8:07am Fri 21 Jun 13

tootle says...

It is a comment on the education offered in Southampton 3 years ago. I think less 18 year olds are seriously considering Uni as an option now due to a number of concerns but this report is comparative not reason based.
It is a comment on the education offered in Southampton 3 years ago. I think less 18 year olds are seriously considering Uni as an option now due to a number of concerns but this report is comparative not reason based. tootle

8:16am Fri 21 Jun 13

WiddlyScuds says...

I wouldn't go to university either if i were to come out with almost £50,000 debt to spend my first year or two working in a coffee shop...
I wouldn't go to university either if i were to come out with almost £50,000 debt to spend my first year or two working in a coffee shop... WiddlyScuds

8:21am Fri 21 Jun 13

vag says...

Are these findings implying that Southampton is full of thicko's, or that Southampton is full of youngsters who don't like the thought of large debts?
Are these findings implying that Southampton is full of thicko's, or that Southampton is full of youngsters who don't like the thought of large debts? vag

8:29am Fri 21 Jun 13

tootle says...

This report is not about falling student numbers it is a comparison on the %age of students in a population going on to Uni and Southampton is low. There are, in my opinion, several reasons for this and nearly all to do with the failings in Education in the City at the time.
This report is not about falling student numbers it is a comparison on the %age of students in a population going on to Uni and Southampton is low. There are, in my opinion, several reasons for this and nearly all to do with the failings in Education in the City at the time. tootle

10:07am Fri 21 Jun 13

southy says...

No money no jobs is the real reason
No money no jobs is the real reason southy

10:34am Fri 21 Jun 13

froots says...

southy wrote:
No money no jobs is the real reason
No it isn't.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: No money no jobs is the real reason[/p][/quote]No it isn't. froots

10:54am Fri 21 Jun 13

George4th says...

It's a reflection of the attitudes of many Southampton citizens - no aspirations. Hence why we always have 2 Labour MPs and Labour dominated councils!
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Other than the Public Sector, Southampton offers little in jobs for the higher educated young therefore the incentive is not there for them to aspire to.
It's a reflection of the attitudes of many Southampton citizens - no aspirations. Hence why we always have 2 Labour MPs and Labour dominated councils! > Other than the Public Sector, Southampton offers little in jobs for the higher educated young therefore the incentive is not there for them to aspire to. George4th

11:11am Fri 21 Jun 13

Torchie1 says...

WiddlyScuds wrote:
I wouldn't go to university either if i were to come out with almost £50,000 debt to spend my first year or two working in a coffee shop...
Unless you were earning over £21K you would have to repay nothing. Earn more than that and you'll be asked for 9% of anything over £21K which equates to £67 a month if you're on £30K, and it's taken out before Income Tax is calculated. If people bothered to look at the government figures instead of listening to political point scorers they would see that it's not a bad deal. There is Interest on the loan but that's no different from any loan and if you pay the loan off more quickly then you pay less interest. If you are still on less than £21K after 25 years, the debt is wiped out, how good is that?
[quote][p][bold]WiddlyScuds[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't go to university either if i were to come out with almost £50,000 debt to spend my first year or two working in a coffee shop...[/p][/quote]Unless you were earning over £21K you would have to repay nothing. Earn more than that and you'll be asked for 9% of anything over £21K which equates to £67 a month if you're on £30K, and it's taken out before Income Tax is calculated. If people bothered to look at the government figures instead of listening to political point scorers they would see that it's not a bad deal. There is Interest on the loan but that's no different from any loan and if you pay the loan off more quickly then you pay less interest. If you are still on less than £21K after 25 years, the debt is wiped out, how good is that? Torchie1

11:35am Fri 21 Jun 13

Raxx says...

vag wrote:
Are these findings implying that Southampton is full of thicko's, or that Southampton is full of youngsters who don't like the thought of large debts?
Neither. It's that Southampton is a borderline slum that produces youngsters with no hope, aspirations, or belief that they can achieve more than a job in skilled labour.
[quote][p][bold]vag[/bold] wrote: Are these findings implying that Southampton is full of thicko's, or that Southampton is full of youngsters who don't like the thought of large debts?[/p][/quote]Neither. It's that Southampton is a borderline slum that produces youngsters with no hope, aspirations, or belief that they can achieve more than a job in skilled labour. Raxx

12:09pm Fri 21 Jun 13

10 Minute Man says...

The low aspirations start right from infant school. The attitude for my child has been panic that they might not achieve one level in one subject but otherwise disinterest in stretching or pushing her in other areas. The bare minimum to avoid scrutiny seems to be the bar for "good enough".

Then the secondary schools pat themselves on the back whenever there is a hint that they have gone from "terrible" to merely "very poor". Ooh you've got 50% of pupils up to "C" grade....well done....

The fact is that kids in our city are not more or less stupid than anywhere else, so what is going wrong between birth and 18 years?
The low aspirations start right from infant school. The attitude for my child has been panic that they might not achieve one level in one subject but otherwise disinterest in stretching or pushing her in other areas. The bare minimum to avoid scrutiny seems to be the bar for "good enough". Then the secondary schools pat themselves on the back whenever there is a hint that they have gone from "terrible" to merely "very poor". Ooh you've got 50% of pupils up to "C" grade....well done.... The fact is that kids in our city are not more or less stupid than anywhere else, so what is going wrong between birth and 18 years? 10 Minute Man

12:28pm Fri 21 Jun 13

birddog38 says...

Wake up and take a look around you on the streets of Southampton... Jeans around their knees, skateboards under their feet, silly little bikes with no brakes, what hope has Southampton for the future?? No wonder not so many are going to Uni, seriously ask yourself, would you want them?? I dont think so. They need to wake up to what lies ahead of them and switch on and present themselves as good decent people who actually want to have a future!
Wake up and take a look around you on the streets of Southampton... Jeans around their knees, skateboards under their feet, silly little bikes with no brakes, what hope has Southampton for the future?? No wonder not so many are going to Uni, seriously ask yourself, would you want them?? I dont think so. They need to wake up to what lies ahead of them and switch on and present themselves as good decent people who actually want to have a future! birddog38

12:33pm Fri 21 Jun 13

tootle says...

Aspiration is the key. All children can and will achieve. Just not necessarily academically. When my children went to school the children the schools concentrated on were those just above and just below the average for their age. More kids getting average better SATS scores. Not exactly aspirational. We need tailored education, aspirational education and realistic aspirations.
Aspiration is the key. All children can and will achieve. Just not necessarily academically. When my children went to school the children the schools concentrated on were those just above and just below the average for their age. More kids getting average better SATS scores. Not exactly aspirational. We need tailored education, aspirational education and realistic aspirations. tootle

12:47pm Fri 21 Jun 13

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
No money no jobs is the real reason
No it isn't, do try to at least have a little think before posting something like this.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: No money no jobs is the real reason[/p][/quote]No it isn't, do try to at least have a little think before posting something like this. Shoong

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