Shops snub homecoming troops

Soldiers form Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment

Soldiers form Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment

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THEY are the household names that line all our high streets.

However seven stores who like to paint a community-friendly image have refused to get behind our troops.

Asked to put up a simple poster produced by the Daily Echo supporting The Tigers – Hampshire’s own Princess of Wales’ Royal Regiment (PWRR) – seven refused, even though the brave boys and girls will be marching right past their doorsteps next week.

Ex-servicemen have called it “nauseating”.

Now they are demanding the shops change their stance.

More than 160 soldiers from The Tigers will march through Winchester on Monday.

Hundreds of people are expected to line the streets to celebrate the event, similar to when thousands lined the roads of Southampton and Romsey to welcome the soldiers back to their homeground in 2009.

Twenty shops backed the poster campaign straight away with some, such as Jack Wills and the West Cornwall Pasty Company, even asking for extra copies.

But , travel agent Kuoni, tea and coffee merchant Whittard of Chelsea, shoe shop Clarks, phone seller O2, bookmaker Coral and Cafe Nero all snubbed the campaign.

Many cited “head office policy” as the reason they could not support our armed forces.

Marks & Spencer initially did not display the poster but are now doing so.

Rodney Hawkins, president of the Totton and Eling branch of the Royal British Legion, said: “Anybody who does this has not much love for this country. It’s a bit nauseating really.

“The board of directors of these big chain shops have probably never been in the forces and are probably on salaries you and I can never dream of.”

Ex-Royal Marine and current Winchester city councillor Simon Cook said: “What harm can it be, to put a sign up and then take it down afterwards?

“For God’s sake – if you do not have the initiative to show the appreciation of our services for a single day, then God help us. If I was a young man marching past, I’d be disappointed if people didn’t show support.”

Southampton branch secretary of the Royal British Legion Archie Parsons said it was a question of appreciation.

“It’s a great shame. A number of companies just don’t appreciate what our armed services do.

“I think the vast majority of people in the UK do support the armed services, but there is a small number who don’t. It’s sad because they need our support.

“I do hope that they will relent and change their minds and agree to put something up, because the more publicity, the more people will attend.”

Winchester mayor Cllr Ernie Jeffs blasted those not taking part. He said: “I find it very, very disappointing. A lot of these organisations are signed up to the BID and I would have thought they would want to integrate themselves with Winchester. I think they’re missing the point.

“We have signed up to a community covenant with the army and it sounds like these companies are not really in the spirit of it at all.”

The parade takes place under the right of Freedom of Entry, an ancient privilege that allows some regiments to parade through the city with “bayonets fixed, drums beating and colours flying”.

The regiment was formed in 1992 when the Royal Hampshire Regiment amalgamated with the Queen’s Regiment.

The event has been arranged jointly by the city council and the regiment to celebrate its return from Afghanistan.

The grand event will start from the Peninsula Barracks at noon and will see the soldiers marching down the High Street to The Broadway.

The parade will halt in front of the Guildhall and form up for inspection and speeches at 12.10pm. Then the parade will march around King Alfred statue and back along the lower High Street before a reception at the Guildhall.

The Stores which said NO:

  • Caffe Nero
  • O2
  • Clarks
  • Whitard
  • Kuoni
  • Coral

The stores which said YES:

  • Jack Wills
  • Moss Bros
  • Lloyds TSB
  • Halifax
  • Fat Face
  • Pasty Presto
  • Greggs
  • Zoo Jewellers
  • British Heart Foundation
  • Tinc
  • Union Jacks
  • Subway
  • Alfie's
  • Char
  • Lloyds Pharmacy
  • Joules
  • Crown And Anchor
  • West Cornwall Pasty Company
  • Marks & Spencer

 

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1:11pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Brite Spark says...

Trouble is the stores are probably more than happy to promote the troops welcome return, but the posters no doubt will have been covered in Daily Echo paraphernalia, maybe the shop owners didn't want to give the paper free advertising.
Trouble is the stores are probably more than happy to promote the troops welcome return, but the posters no doubt will have been covered in Daily Echo paraphernalia, maybe the shop owners didn't want to give the paper free advertising. Brite Spark
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1:19pm Wed 17 Jul 13

dango says...

Shame on them.
Shame on them. dango
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1:20pm Wed 17 Jul 13

dolomiteman says...

Just what I was thinking Mr Spark, and anyway the squaddies will not see the shop fronts as the supporting public will be stood in front of the shop.
Just what I was thinking Mr Spark, and anyway the squaddies will not see the shop fronts as the supporting public will be stood in front of the shop. dolomiteman
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1:24pm Wed 17 Jul 13

kiddynamite says...

I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!! kiddynamite
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1:24pm Wed 17 Jul 13

massimoosti says...

I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising.

How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know.


Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story.

Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk. massimoosti
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1:33pm Wed 17 Jul 13

WiddlyScuds says...

Or maybe they simply don't want to put the posters up.
Support for them is huge appreciated and sought after, and i for one do want to Help the Heroes i like the support. But i think that people should be allowed the choice and not be shunned by it.
Or maybe they simply don't want to put the posters up. Support for them is huge appreciated and sought after, and i for one do want to Help the Heroes i like the support. But i think that people should be allowed the choice and not be shunned by it. WiddlyScuds
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1:40pm Wed 17 Jul 13

THEKILLER says...

Why is this news??? every-time there is a parade in any town it is up to the shop if they but a poster up or not, some have policy of no posters so have to obey it does not mean they are anti troops
Why is this news??? every-time there is a parade in any town it is up to the shop if they but a poster up or not, some have policy of no posters so have to obey it does not mean they are anti troops THEKILLER
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1:44pm Wed 17 Jul 13

business-guru says...

kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t business-guru
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1:51pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Shoong says...

I suspect this isn't actually about the soldiers really - it's just that the Daily Echo is pointing out which shops refused to put Daily Echo posters in the windows.

That's democracy and freedom which these guys are there to fight for and protect.
I suspect this isn't actually about the soldiers really - it's just that the Daily Echo is pointing out which shops refused to put Daily Echo posters in the windows. That's democracy and freedom which these guys are there to fight for and protect. Shoong
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1:53pm Wed 17 Jul 13

silly manc says...

google chris spivey ,very,very interesting.
google chris spivey ,very,very interesting. silly manc
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1:53pm Wed 17 Jul 13

elvisimo says...

Echo - how about not using this for your own purposes. Because a party does not agree with something you have to attempt to publicly "shame" them - I am sure that the retailers you mentioned will now be quaking in their boots.

ps. Publish a picture of your posters. Having seen these posters - the Daily Echo logo taking up about a third of the poster has more prominence than what you claim to be supporting.
Echo - how about not using this for your own purposes. Because a party does not agree with something you have to attempt to publicly "shame" them - I am sure that the retailers you mentioned will now be quaking in their boots. ps. Publish a picture of your posters. Having seen these posters - the Daily Echo logo taking up about a third of the poster has more prominence than what you claim to be supporting. elvisimo
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1:59pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Norwegian Saint says...

I am ex-forces (well, I still am by work for the norwegian forces) we are fighting for freedom in these countries, freedom of speech. We have to respect everybodys view even if it makes some of our blood boil.
Like a poster said above, the troops will not see or take much notice if a shop has signs or not... "eyyyyyyyyyes FRONT!!!!!" and all the people lining the streets.
I am ex-forces (well, I still am by work for the norwegian forces) we are fighting for freedom in these countries, freedom of speech. We have to respect everybodys view even if it makes some of our blood boil. Like a poster said above, the troops will not see or take much notice if a shop has signs or not... "eyyyyyyyyyes FRONT!!!!!" and all the people lining the streets. Norwegian Saint
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2:04pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are Lone Ranger.
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2:05pm Wed 17 Jul 13

letsallgodownthestrand says...

I am so glad to see people who comment on this story aren't falling for the Echo's cheap attempt to rabble rouse.

And shame on that guy from the British Legion for his comments (assuming they have been reported accurately). Slavish devotion to the people who choose careers in the military does not equal love for your country.

Forget these tacky posters. I think the publishers of the Daily Echo should show their love for the brave boys and girls by giving them and their families a free subscription to the Echo for life. Well Ian, how about putting your money where your mouth is?
I am so glad to see people who comment on this story aren't falling for the Echo's cheap attempt to rabble rouse. And shame on that guy from the British Legion for his comments (assuming they have been reported accurately). Slavish devotion to the people who choose careers in the military does not equal love for your country. Forget these tacky posters. I think the publishers of the Daily Echo should show their love for the brave boys and girls by giving them and their families a free subscription to the Echo for life. Well Ian, how about putting your money where your mouth is? letsallgodownthestrand
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2:11pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Gillperry says...

Boycott them Money talks
Boycott them Money talks Gillperry
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2:12pm Wed 17 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes. business-guru
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2:15pm Wed 17 Jul 13

The Phantomerer says...

Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives? The Phantomerer
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2:18pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Shoong says...

business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper. Shoong
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2:20pm Wed 17 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Shoong wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper.
no I have not missed the point, the original poster said maybe they "don't support the war". this was an idiotic comment. Shops of course are free to put up ( or not ) what they choose. But its nothing to do with supporting essential military operations.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper.[/p][/quote]no I have not missed the point, the original poster said maybe they "don't support the war". this was an idiotic comment. Shops of course are free to put up ( or not ) what they choose. But its nothing to do with supporting essential military operations. business-guru
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2:20pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Shoong says...

The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
[quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) ) Shoong
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2:21pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
Umm i think that the subject is about an Echo window poster .......... Not the rights and wrongs of a war.
.
Incidently kiddynamite already stated that he would put the poster up.
.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]Umm i think that the subject is about an Echo window poster .......... Not the rights and wrongs of a war. . Incidently kiddynamite already stated that he would put the poster up. . Lone Ranger.
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2:22pm Wed 17 Jul 13

business-guru says...

The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance. business-guru
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2:22pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e Lone Ranger.
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2:25pm Wed 17 Jul 13

sotonboy84 says...

massimoosti wrote:
I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
You've hit the nail on the head there.

The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted.

The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.[/p][/quote]You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster. sotonboy84
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2:31pm Wed 17 Jul 13

romseyboy says...

instead of posters which wont be seen why don't the Echo give away free flags to the watching crowd the armed forces would see them and it will stop the street sellers making a packet for their own gain.
instead of posters which wont be seen why don't the Echo give away free flags to the watching crowd the armed forces would see them and it will stop the street sellers making a packet for their own gain. romseyboy
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2:34pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Shoong says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
Are you sure?

I remember a House of Commons motion to ban it in 2006 but I'm not sure if anything came of it.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]Are you sure? I remember a House of Commons motion to ban it in 2006 but I'm not sure if anything came of it. Shoong
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2:35pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Graeme Harrison says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
There isn't.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]There isn't. Graeme Harrison
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2:38pm Wed 17 Jul 13

dolomiteman says...

business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
True Muslims do not kill people, the deluded nut cases kill people using Muslim as excuses.
Does this 'teleban' you mention include watching pre-recorded programs or just live articles?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]True Muslims do not kill people, the deluded nut cases kill people using Muslim as excuses. Does this 'teleban' you mention include watching pre-recorded programs or just live articles? dolomiteman
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2:51pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
Are you sure?

I remember a House of Commons motion to ban it in 2006 but I'm not sure if anything came of it.
No i am not sure .... according to Graeme Harrison there isnt a law so i will go by that
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]Are you sure? I remember a House of Commons motion to ban it in 2006 but I'm not sure if anything came of it.[/p][/quote]No i am not sure .... according to Graeme Harrison there isnt a law so i will go by that Lone Ranger.
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2:53pm Wed 17 Jul 13

AdamSFC says...

business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??.
.
Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
Wow, you've really swallowed the rhetoric haven't you?. Firstly, the original poster wasn't telling anybody "not to support the war", they were merely pointing out that you should respect other people's opinions. Furthermore, none of these shops or employees stated that they "didn't support the war", only that they weren't prepared or able to put up a poster.

But since you have dragged this into a debate; which is so far removed from the issue at hand it is almost irrelevant. (as reactionary numbskulls do so often), lets examine the facts, by "the war" I assume you mean Iraq (2003) and Afghanistan (2001). Before this, there were no attacks by Islamic extremists in this country, since these conflicts began there has been 2 actual attacks (7/7 and Woolwich) and at LEAST 2 attempts which I can think of (Glasgow and Tiger Tiger). So far from stopping terrorist actions, it is perfectly legitimate to suggest that they have exacerbated them.

As for mass murder, the military fatalities on the Coalition side alone account account for more deaths than 9/11. And even if the lowest estimates are taken, the 2 conflicts have claimed 125,000 civilian lives.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]Wow, you've really swallowed the rhetoric haven't you?. Firstly, the original poster wasn't telling anybody "not to support the war", they were merely pointing out that you should respect other people's opinions. Furthermore, none of these shops or employees stated that they "didn't support the war", only that they weren't prepared or able to put up a poster. But since you have dragged this into a debate; which is so far removed from the issue at hand it is almost irrelevant. (as reactionary numbskulls do so often), lets examine the facts, by "the war" I assume you mean Iraq (2003) and Afghanistan (2001). Before this, there were no attacks by Islamic extremists in this country, since these conflicts began there has been 2 actual attacks (7/7 and Woolwich) and at LEAST 2 attempts which I can think of (Glasgow and Tiger Tiger). So far from stopping terrorist actions, it is perfectly legitimate to suggest that they have exacerbated them. As for mass murder, the military fatalities on the Coalition side alone account account for more deaths than 9/11. And even if the lowest estimates are taken, the 2 conflicts have claimed 125,000 civilian lives. AdamSFC
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3:00pm Wed 17 Jul 13

AdamSFC says...

business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
Well, in a very real sense, Muslim fundamentalists are fascists. But you're right, fascists generally only kill you over your race or political views, much more civilised.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]Well, in a very real sense, Muslim fundamentalists are fascists. But you're right, fascists generally only kill you over your race or political views, much more civilised. AdamSFC
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3:15pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Frank28 says...

Those shops that said no - aren't the sort of shops I'd patronise anyway!
Those shops that said no - aren't the sort of shops I'd patronise anyway! Frank28
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3:44pm Wed 17 Jul 13

terrence77 says...

I don't see a thing wrong with that not everybody wants to support the troops but we respect them !
I don't see a thing wrong with that not everybody wants to support the troops but we respect them ! terrence77
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3:45pm Wed 17 Jul 13

andysaints007 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
WRONG - Smart ar5e
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]WRONG - Smart ar5e andysaints007
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3:56pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Badger688 says...

I do so enjoy the debate my local paper generates!! We do live in a very interesting part of the country!!

As an ex serving member of PWRR!

So what????

If a store wishes to inform the locals that their local Infantry Regiment (England's senior Infantry Regiment) will parade thought their city, Well Done.

However, if stores have declined! Well Done.

We live in a country where we are able to say "Yes or No" and not worry about the result!! That is called "Democracy"??? And we have been doing it since 1215!!!

If you want to see the parade? Please do so!

If you don't want to see the parade? You don't need to!

No one in this country will force you.
I do so enjoy the debate my local paper generates!! We do live in a very interesting part of the country!! As an ex serving member of PWRR! So what???? If a store wishes to inform the locals that their local Infantry Regiment (England's senior Infantry Regiment) will parade thought their city, Well Done. However, if stores have declined! Well Done. We live in a country where we are able to say "Yes or No" and not worry about the result!! That is called "Democracy"??? And we have been doing it since 1215!!! If you want to see the parade? Please do so! If you don't want to see the parade? You don't need to! No one in this country will force you. Badger688
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3:58pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Saintsincethe60s says...

These shops have every right either to show support or not, the same as we all have the right whether we support them or not.

I for one will not be using any one on that list - there are alternatives, it's called freedom of choice something that muslims don't want us to have
These shops have every right either to show support or not, the same as we all have the right whether we support them or not. I for one will not be using any one on that list - there are alternatives, it's called freedom of choice something that muslims don't want us to have Saintsincethe60s
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4:17pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
WRONG - Smart ar5e
What a pity that you are not intellegent enough to read the other posts that have already confirmed this .... or indeed the intellegent enough to understand the reason why i posted it
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]WRONG - Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]What a pity that you are not intellegent enough to read the other posts that have already confirmed this .... or indeed the intellegent enough to understand the reason why i posted it Lone Ranger.
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4:41pm Wed 17 Jul 13

userds5050 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
Exactly.

I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain.

Democracy means I can do so.

(not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )
....... there's a law against it !!
.
Regards ..... Smart ar5e
WRONG - Smart ar5e
What a pity that you are not intellegent enough to read the other posts that have already confirmed this .... or indeed the intellegent enough to understand the reason why i posted it
TBH I though it was as well. I remember some numpty group burning bits of card with the union flag painted on it once.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]Exactly. I might feel like burning a Union Jack tonight, but that doesn't mean I hate Great Britain. Democracy means I can do so. (not unless one of you smart ar5es can tell me there is a law against it ;) )[/p][/quote]....... there's a law against it !! . Regards ..... Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]WRONG - Smart ar5e[/p][/quote]What a pity that you are not intellegent enough to read the other posts that have already confirmed this .... or indeed the intellegent enough to understand the reason why i posted it[/p][/quote]TBH I though it was as well. I remember some numpty group burning bits of card with the union flag painted on it once. userds5050
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4:42pm Wed 17 Jul 13

THEKILLER says...

The echo has done it before, they clearly don't believe in Democracy and freedom of choice, it is just a cheap why of advertising the echo any way. By saying that any shop that does not display one of their posters is anti British and anti Forces is just pain stupid and makes the echo look silly
The echo has done it before, they clearly don't believe in Democracy and freedom of choice, it is just a cheap why of advertising the echo any way. By saying that any shop that does not display one of their posters is anti British and anti Forces is just pain stupid and makes the echo look silly THEKILLER
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4:44pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

I fail to see how refusing to put up a poster in your shop window is delivering a snub to the armed forces.

Can someone explain to me how this stops the PWRR marching through the town?

Poor reporting, shabby attempt at sensationalising a non-story and I would even go so far as to ask the DE to get over itself.

All this does for me is make me think less of the Daily Echo as a paper committed to supporting it's local community.
I fail to see how refusing to put up a poster in your shop window is delivering a snub to the armed forces. Can someone explain to me how this stops the PWRR marching through the town? Poor reporting, shabby attempt at sensationalising a non-story and I would even go so far as to ask the DE to get over itself. All this does for me is make me think less of the Daily Echo as a paper committed to supporting it's local community. Stroppy_gramps
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5:17pm Wed 17 Jul 13

media8ter says...

This is tantamount to bullying by the DE, this isn't even news, so they won't put a poster up......so what !!?? I would refuse to put anything that came from the DE up in my window, doesn't mean i don't support our troops etc
This is tantamount to bullying by the DE, this isn't even news, so they won't put a poster up......so what !!?? I would refuse to put anything that came from the DE up in my window, doesn't mean i don't support our troops etc media8ter
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6:30pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Moosh says...

For all the young Folk Google " Tommy Atkins "
For all the young Folk Google " Tommy Atkins " Moosh
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6:57pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Saintly Sam says...

kiddynamite wrote:
I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority"
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority" Saintly Sam
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6:59pm Wed 17 Jul 13

business-guru says...

dolomiteman wrote:
business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
True Muslims do not kill people, the deluded nut cases kill people using Muslim as excuses.
Does this 'teleban' you mention include watching pre-recorded programs or just live articles?
"true" muslims !? not sure I have heard that one before. They would class themselves as "true" muslims I guess... and they are cold blooded murderers.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]True Muslims do not kill people, the deluded nut cases kill people using Muslim as excuses. Does this 'teleban' you mention include watching pre-recorded programs or just live articles?[/p][/quote]"true" muslims !? not sure I have heard that one before. They would class themselves as "true" muslims I guess... and they are cold blooded murderers. business-guru
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7:20pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Echo headline :- Shops snub homecoming troops.
.
What complete and utter garbage.
.
The shops are snubbing YOU Echo.
.
Makes you wonder what sort of mentality the Echo has when the condemn shops for not putting up an Echo advert in their window.
.
Echo headline :- Shops snub homecoming troops. . What complete and utter garbage. . The shops are snubbing YOU Echo. . Makes you wonder what sort of mentality the Echo has when the condemn shops for not putting up an Echo advert in their window. . Lone Ranger.
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7:25pm Wed 17 Jul 13

userds5050 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Echo headline :- Shops snub homecoming troops.
.
What complete and utter garbage.
.
The shops are snubbing YOU Echo.
.
Makes you wonder what sort of mentality the Echo has when the condemn shops for not putting up an Echo advert in their window.
.
Seeing as the Echo can't even spell some of their names properly I don't blame them. Whittard has two Ts DE.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Echo headline :- Shops snub homecoming troops. . What complete and utter garbage. . The shops are snubbing YOU Echo. . Makes you wonder what sort of mentality the Echo has when the condemn shops for not putting up an Echo advert in their window. .[/p][/quote]Seeing as the Echo can't even spell some of their names properly I don't blame them. Whittard has two Ts DE. userds5050
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8:07pm Wed 17 Jul 13

terrence77 says...

business-guru It's double standard !! what about that British soldier who raped a kid in Afghanistan hey !! what about that ! the government even change his name to protect him criminal !!
business-guru It's double standard !! what about that British soldier who raped a kid in Afghanistan hey !! what about that ! the government even change his name to protect him criminal !! terrence77
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8:14pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Huffter says...

Refusing to get behind one thing and "snubbing" another are very different things.
Refusing to get behind one thing and "snubbing" another are very different things. Huffter
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8:32pm Wed 17 Jul 13

10 Minute Man says...

Gawd bless the war without end.

It enriches bankers, fuels the armaments industry, and provides an excellent distraction from the cesspit the global rulers are pushing us into.
Gawd bless the war without end. It enriches bankers, fuels the armaments industry, and provides an excellent distraction from the cesspit the global rulers are pushing us into. 10 Minute Man
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8:47pm Wed 17 Jul 13

sarfhamton says...

Why should shops be bullied to put up a poster?

This is a free country
Why should shops be bullied to put up a poster? This is a free country sarfhamton
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9:42pm Wed 17 Jul 13

Quite Frankly says...

This is a vile, cynical non-story, which serves to illustrates how low the Echo is willing to go for some cheap publicity. Not fit to hang up in the smallest room.
This is a vile, cynical non-story, which serves to illustrates how low the Echo is willing to go for some cheap publicity. Not fit to hang up in the smallest room. Quite Frankly
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11:16pm Wed 17 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning. cantthinkofone
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1:02am Thu 18 Jul 13

Saintly Sam says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo. Saintly Sam
  • Score: -1

8:38am Thu 18 Jul 13

allison.luella says...

These are brave men & Women, all shops should show their respect, by putting up these posters!!!

They deserve our support, they put their lives at risk, this is just a tiny way of saying thank you to them!!

Show your support by putting up a poster, or flying a flag!!

If i owned a shop i would fill the window with the posters!!
These are brave men & Women, all shops should show their respect, by putting up these posters!!! They deserve our support, they put their lives at risk, this is just a tiny way of saying thank you to them!! Show your support by putting up a poster, or flying a flag!! If i owned a shop i would fill the window with the posters!! allison.luella
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9:11am Thu 18 Jul 13

TommyHearns says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Think you'll find the paper carried a byline and photo for you to focus your bitter, ill-informed opinions on.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Think you'll find the paper carried a byline and photo for you to focus your bitter, ill-informed opinions on. TommyHearns
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9:24am Thu 18 Jul 13

TommyHearns says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
You've hit the nail on the head there.

The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted.

The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.
I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . .
article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.[/p][/quote]You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.[/p][/quote]I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted. TommyHearns
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9:27am Thu 18 Jul 13

sarfhamton says...

Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
[quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct. sarfhamton
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10:50am Thu 18 Jul 13

The Phantomerer says...

Daily Echo Snubs Troops In Cynical Advertising Ploy.
Daily Echo Snubs Troops In Cynical Advertising Ploy. The Phantomerer
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11:32am Thu 18 Jul 13

sotonboy84 says...

TommyHearns wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
massimoosti wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.
I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.
But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story.

Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody
[quote][p][bold]TommyHearns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.[/p][/quote]You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.[/p][/quote]I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.[/p][/quote]But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story. Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody sotonboy84
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1:12pm Thu 18 Jul 13

Raxx says...

sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh* Raxx
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2:28pm Thu 18 Jul 13

sarfhamton says...

Raxx wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
To whom am i being a traitor?

I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster.

"SPORT ARE TROOPS"?

Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.
[quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh*[/p][/quote]To whom am i being a traitor? I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster. "SPORT ARE TROOPS"? Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to. sarfhamton
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2:44pm Thu 18 Jul 13

The Phantomerer says...

sarfhamton wrote:
Raxx wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
To whom am i being a traitor?

I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster.

"SPORT ARE TROOPS"?

Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.
I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh*[/p][/quote]To whom am i being a traitor? I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster. "SPORT ARE TROOPS"? Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.[/p][/quote]I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully. The Phantomerer
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2:50pm Thu 18 Jul 13

WinchesterBoy says...

Has anyone looked at the posters?! The Daily Echo's logo is nearly bigger than the PWRR logo!! Good on the shops for not allowing the Daily Echo to use 'Patriotism' as an excuse for free advertising.

On that note, I hope to see you at the parade, should be a great day!
Has anyone looked at the posters?! The Daily Echo's logo is nearly bigger than the PWRR logo!! Good on the shops for not allowing the Daily Echo to use 'Patriotism' as an excuse for free advertising. On that note, I hope to see you at the parade, should be a great day! WinchesterBoy
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3:29pm Thu 18 Jul 13

Ex_Squaddie says...

This is the message on the O2 facebook page.

O2 We have not back tracked on anything. After our store was asked about the poster, and before the article was published, we got the go ahead to have it up on the store window. This will be displayed as soon as the store receives it, if not already.
This is the message on the O2 facebook page. O2 We have not back tracked on anything. After our store was asked about the poster, and before the article was published, we got the go ahead to have it up on the store window. This will be displayed as soon as the store receives it, if not already. Ex_Squaddie
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3:45pm Thu 18 Jul 13

WiddlyScuds says...

The Daily Fascist can't seem to understand that either some shops don't want to show the support and/or their head office won't allow them to. The first paragraph of this article just annoys me the way that they have worded it.
The Daily Fascist can't seem to understand that either some shops don't want to show the support and/or their head office won't allow them to. The first paragraph of this article just annoys me the way that they have worded it. WiddlyScuds
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4:52pm Thu 18 Jul 13

sarfhamton says...

The Phantomerer wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Raxx wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
To whom am i being a traitor?

I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster.

"SPORT ARE TROOPS"?

Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.
I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.
No its you that has missed the point
[quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh*[/p][/quote]To whom am i being a traitor? I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster. "SPORT ARE TROOPS"? Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.[/p][/quote]I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.[/p][/quote]No its you that has missed the point sarfhamton
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5:11pm Thu 18 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

The Phantomerer wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Raxx wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
To whom am i being a traitor?

I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster.

"SPORT ARE TROOPS"?

Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.
I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.
It was "Raxx" that posted it. But other than that - yes!
[quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh*[/p][/quote]To whom am i being a traitor? I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster. "SPORT ARE TROOPS"? Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.[/p][/quote]I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.[/p][/quote]It was "Raxx" that posted it. But other than that - yes! cantthinkofone
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7:43pm Thu 18 Jul 13

Ex_Squaddie says...

Ex_Squaddie wrote:
This is the message on the O2 facebook page.

O2 We have not back tracked on anything. After our store was asked about the poster, and before the article was published, we got the go ahead to have it up on the store window. This will be displayed as soon as the store receives it, if not already.
o2 were also asked about the possibility of legal action against the DE regarding libel. They would not comment further, but this is what they said about the original question.

As soon as the posters arrived we displayed them. The paper has written an updated version of the article.
[quote][p][bold]Ex_Squaddie[/bold] wrote: This is the message on the O2 facebook page. O2 We have not back tracked on anything. After our store was asked about the poster, and before the article was published, we got the go ahead to have it up on the store window. This will be displayed as soon as the store receives it, if not already.[/p][/quote]o2 were also asked about the possibility of legal action against the DE regarding libel. They would not comment further, but this is what they said about the original question. As soon as the posters arrived we displayed them. The paper has written an updated version of the article. Ex_Squaddie
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8:13pm Thu 18 Jul 13

The Phantomerer says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Raxx wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail.

Sickening.

Not even a byline. Cowards.

Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.
Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.
What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now.

My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.
TRAITER!!!11!!!

SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!!

*sigh*
To whom am i being a traitor?

I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster.

"SPORT ARE TROOPS"?

Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.
I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.
It was "Raxx" that posted it. But other than that - yes!
Ooops thanks, I have trouble following the quotes, all those rectangles blending into one :)
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Cynical, vile, journalistic blackmail. Sickening. Not even a byline. Cowards. Someone screenshot all these comments and stick it on facebook in the hope it goes viral. I expect they'll all be gone by morning.[/p][/quote]Not blackmail at all, they are reporting a story, plenty of national and local papers would do a similar thing and print posters welcoming our troops back, and would have their logo's on the poster, it's the cowardly shops you should be having a go at, too scared of upsetting the Muslims, trying to be "politically correct, shame on those shops, and well done to the Echo.[/p][/quote]What has this got to with Muslims? There are people of all backgrounds in the Army and our troops are fighting alongside Muslims around the world right now. My step daughter is in the Navy, we are very proud but i don't see why the world has to fawn over service people the whole time or be accused of being politically correct.[/p][/quote]TRAITER!!!11!!! SPORT ARE TROOPS!!!! *sigh*[/p][/quote]To whom am i being a traitor? I welcomed my step daughter home with pride after her tour but I didn't think every shop in Plymouth should have put up a poster. "SPORT ARE TROOPS"? Do you mean "support our troops", as I quite clearly point out I do, i just don't think everyone should feel obliged to.[/p][/quote]I think you missed the humour in sarfhampton's post. Hint: one clue is in the *sigh* at the end, but there are other clues if you look carefully.[/p][/quote]It was "Raxx" that posted it. But other than that - yes![/p][/quote]Ooops thanks, I have trouble following the quotes, all those rectangles blending into one :) The Phantomerer
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1:35pm Fri 19 Jul 13

Home Rule for England says...

business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
The Nazis were fascists and they murdered people for being Jewish. The Taleban are murderous fascists thugs who would kill anyone who does not accept their religion.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]The Nazis were fascists and they murdered people for being Jewish. The Taleban are murderous fascists thugs who would kill anyone who does not accept their religion. Home Rule for England
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2:03pm Fri 19 Jul 13

lowe esteem says...

THEKILLER wrote:
Why is this news??? every-time there is a parade in any town it is up to the shop if they but a poster up or not, some have policy of no posters so have to obey it does not mean they are anti troops
With you, and the Daily Echo doesn't have 'Help for Heroes' banner on the front-page, (why not, every day?)don't suppose the editor's got a sticker on his car?
Who's to say that the companies without poster displays are not the biggest supporters to these and many other deserving causes? What's the next step with this negative discrimination from our vacuous local rag? I am sure our valiant troops will appreciate the sentiment in the request "Step forward if you want to go to war, Mr Murray?" (everyone else one pace back) or "not got your washing out today, then, you dirtybastard"-if you get my dreft.
It's today's editorial too, in the paper version from the Witchfinder General.
[quote][p][bold]THEKILLER[/bold] wrote: Why is this news??? every-time there is a parade in any town it is up to the shop if they but a poster up or not, some have policy of no posters so have to obey it does not mean they are anti troops[/p][/quote]With you, and the Daily Echo doesn't have 'Help for Heroes' banner on the front-page, (why not, every day?)don't suppose the editor's got a sticker on his car? Who's to say that the companies without poster displays are not the biggest supporters to these and many other deserving causes? What's the next step with this negative discrimination from our vacuous local rag? I am sure our valiant troops will appreciate the sentiment in the request "Step forward if you want to go to war, Mr Murray?" (everyone else one pace back) or "not got your washing out today, then, you dirtybastard"-if you get my dreft. It's today's editorial too, in the paper version from the Witchfinder General. lowe esteem
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2:11pm Fri 19 Jul 13

annoyed2013 says...

I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!!
I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!! annoyed2013
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2:45pm Fri 19 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

Home Rule for England wrote:
business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
The Nazis were fascists and they murdered people for being Jewish. The Taleban are murderous fascists thugs who would kill anyone who does not accept their religion.
Given your username, I suspect there's very little we'd agree on.

But you're quote correct on this. The taliban (and associated muslim fundamentalists) are fascist theocrats.
[quote][p][bold]Home Rule for England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]The Nazis were fascists and they murdered people for being Jewish. The Taleban are murderous fascists thugs who would kill anyone who does not accept their religion.[/p][/quote]Given your username, I suspect there's very little we'd agree on. But you're quote correct on this. The taliban (and associated muslim fundamentalists) are fascist theocrats. cantthinkofone
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2:46pm Fri 19 Jul 13

owen_thesaints says...

annoyed2013 wrote:
I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!!
Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor,

Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story.
[quote][p][bold]annoyed2013[/bold] wrote: I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!![/p][/quote]Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor, Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story. owen_thesaints
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2:51pm Fri 19 Jul 13

owen_thesaints says...

owen_thesaints wrote:
annoyed2013 wrote:
I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!!
Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor,

Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story.
Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily Echo then you should seek a public apology from the editor

Apologies for the mispost but this site is forever crashing my browser, sort it out Echo!
[quote][p][bold]owen_thesaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]annoyed2013[/bold] wrote: I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!![/p][/quote]Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor, Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily Echo then you should seek a public apology from the editor Apologies for the mispost but this site is forever crashing my browser, sort it out Echo! owen_thesaints
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4:25pm Fri 19 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

owen_thesaints wrote:
annoyed2013 wrote:
I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!!
Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor,

Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story.
Good luck with that. The DE has previously published factual inaccuracies that could have prejudiced a trial. When pointed out to them the web editor apologised and said he's get it sorted - but the Editor in Chief wasn't interested and no correction, retraction or apology was ever issued. The guy has the ethics of a sociopathic stoat.

Others have posted similar tales in the past. It seems to be his MO.
[quote][p][bold]owen_thesaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]annoyed2013[/bold] wrote: I work for one of the slated stores and was matter of fact the person who was asked to put up poster.... I nEVER SAID NO I said I will have to get authorisation from my boss which the girl who asked seemed happy with so daily echo u know what to do with it lies!!!!! Like everyone we support our troops!!![/p][/quote]Perhaps if you and your store has been misrepresented by the Daily echo should seek a public apology from the editor, Juudging by the responses on this thread I am not alone in my disgust at the way the Echo has portrayed businesses in their attempt at a confrontational story.[/p][/quote]Good luck with that. The DE has previously published factual inaccuracies that could have prejudiced a trial. When pointed out to them the web editor apologised and said he's get it sorted - but the Editor in Chief wasn't interested and no correction, retraction or apology was ever issued. The guy has the ethics of a sociopathic stoat. Others have posted similar tales in the past. It seems to be his MO. cantthinkofone
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4:36pm Fri 19 Jul 13

Badger688 says...

People????
Give it a rest now, please!!

Good or bad! People know there is a parade and the paper/website has been read.

Go home and watch the Ashes at Lords
People???? Give it a rest now, please!! Good or bad! People know there is a parade and the paper/website has been read. Go home and watch the Ashes at Lords Badger688
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12:04pm Sat 20 Jul 13

Service-defender says...

Daily Echo apart from the news artical where is your ad?

Have you bothered to print on the front pages about the parade or have a full page advertisement in your papers?
Daily Echo apart from the news artical where is your ad? Have you bothered to print on the front pages about the parade or have a full page advertisement in your papers? Service-defender
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12:40pm Sat 20 Jul 13

TommyHearns says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
TommyHearns wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
massimoosti wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.
I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.
But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story.

Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody
"and then not write about it"??????

Utterly bizarre view of the press there.

Also, whatever the Echo's motives, all these orgs make toe-curling claims about being part of the community and are happy to pay their staff a pittance. They want to take money (fair enough) from the community, yet when asked to put a poster up promoting our local regiment, they can't do it.

And I for one I'm not rattled by the idea of a local paper "bullying" multi-million pound orgs like M&S and O2.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TommyHearns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.[/p][/quote]You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.[/p][/quote]I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.[/p][/quote]But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story. Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody[/p][/quote]"and then not write about it"?????? Utterly bizarre view of the press there. Also, whatever the Echo's motives, all these orgs make toe-curling claims about being part of the community and are happy to pay their staff a pittance. They want to take money (fair enough) from the community, yet when asked to put a poster up promoting our local regiment, they can't do it. And I for one I'm not rattled by the idea of a local paper "bullying" multi-million pound orgs like M&S and O2. TommyHearns
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2:59pm Sat 20 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

TommyHearns wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
TommyHearns wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
massimoosti wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.
You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.
I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.
But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story.

Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody
"and then not write about it"??????

Utterly bizarre view of the press there.

Also, whatever the Echo's motives, all these orgs make toe-curling claims about being part of the community and are happy to pay their staff a pittance. They want to take money (fair enough) from the community, yet when asked to put a poster up promoting our local regiment, they can't do it.

And I for one I'm not rattled by the idea of a local paper "bullying" multi-million pound orgs like M&S and O2.
What about bullying minimum wage shop-workers then?
[quote][p][bold]TommyHearns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TommyHearns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: I imagine that the managers would love to but head office rules state no advertising. How about the Echo test this by reprinting the posters without any Daily Echo on it and passing them on to the said shops...........then well know. Also would have perhaps been better for the Daily Echo to contact the Head Offices for explanations before sensationalising the story. Chances are the Local Managers are so afraid of losing a valued job they daren't do anything to put themselves at risk.[/p][/quote]You've hit the nail on the head there. The staff/managers are only representatives of the company and I'm sure it isn't their own personal opinion. They could risk being sacked if they put up the poster and Head Office complained that they weren't consulted. The shops do not belong to the employees and the DE obviously hasn't consulted Head Office so should have done this first before brandishing the companies some sort of monster.[/p][/quote]I spoke to one of the shop owners yesterday - seems DE asked each shop to check with head office if they said they couldn't put it up. looks like staff didn't bother checking - case of "computer says no" i suspect. . . article in today's paper also suggests DE did their own checks with HQs too - they're quoted.[/p][/quote]But then on the other hand they may have checked and it may be against company policy to put any posters up that don't form part of their branding. The DE should have consulted the Head Office of all the companies and if they refused, accept that and not write a story about it, dragging them through the dirt. Asking a member of staff to checked with HO is not the same and just shows a lack of preparation and the result is a cheap, hurried news story. Some companies have policies where nothing at all can be displayed as they take an impartial view and don't want to risk upsetting anybody[/p][/quote]"and then not write about it"?????? Utterly bizarre view of the press there. Also, whatever the Echo's motives, all these orgs make toe-curling claims about being part of the community and are happy to pay their staff a pittance. They want to take money (fair enough) from the community, yet when asked to put a poster up promoting our local regiment, they can't do it. And I for one I'm not rattled by the idea of a local paper "bullying" multi-million pound orgs like M&S and O2.[/p][/quote]What about bullying minimum wage shop-workers then? cantthinkofone
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1:55am Sun 21 Jul 13

spiritofold says...

I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned.

Shame on the managers and companies as a whole!
I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole! spiritofold
  • Score: -1

8:48pm Sun 21 Jul 13

WOOLSTONCHAP says...

will not use those shops again !!!
will not use those shops again !!! WOOLSTONCHAP
  • Score: -2

10:32pm Sun 21 Jul 13

cantthinkofone says...

Baaaaaa!!!!
Baaaaaa!!!! cantthinkofone
  • Score: -1

12:45am Mon 22 Jul 13

paulfisher says...

I think it's because they are afraid of offending some portions of our society and perhaps those portions are part of the head offices as well.
I think it's because they are afraid of offending some portions of our society and perhaps those portions are part of the head offices as well. paulfisher
  • Score: -1

7:16am Mon 22 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

seriously some of you need to get some perspective

What happened?
Some shops did not put up a poster printed by the Daily Echo.

That's it.
Putting the poster up was never going to save a life or cure third world debt so it's hardly the life changing event the DE wants to portray it as.


The fact these shops did not put up that poster simply does not deserve this kind of story from the DE. Once more it's poor, shoddy reporting from a badly run media outlet that think's it's some sort of national red top.


Here's some tips DE:
1) Get over yourself.
2) Ask the people who post the stories on your website to run a spellcheck once in a while (you'd be amazed by the results)
3) Does anyone actually check the stories for factual accuracy? Because it doesn't look like it
4) Rehashing certain stories five days in a row is poor. It indicates bad reporting standards.

As a suggestion DE, why don't you show some actual interest in the community you say you support and do some proper reporting. There's plenty going on in the area that would show what a great place Southampton is, but you seem to want to concentrate on the negatives.
seriously some of you need to get some perspective What happened? Some shops did not put up a poster printed by the Daily Echo. That's it. Putting the poster up was never going to save a life or cure third world debt so it's hardly the life changing event the DE wants to portray it as. The fact these shops did not put up that poster simply does not deserve this kind of story from the DE. Once more it's poor, shoddy reporting from a badly run media outlet that think's it's some sort of national red top. Here's some tips DE: 1) Get over yourself. 2) Ask the people who post the stories on your website to run a spellcheck once in a while (you'd be amazed by the results) 3) Does anyone actually check the stories for factual accuracy? Because it doesn't look like it 4) Rehashing certain stories five days in a row is poor. It indicates bad reporting standards. As a suggestion DE, why don't you show some actual interest in the community you say you support and do some proper reporting. There's plenty going on in the area that would show what a great place Southampton is, but you seem to want to concentrate on the negatives. Stroppy_gramps
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11:15am Mon 22 Jul 13

spotburst says...

I support the troops.
But I for one will not buy another Daily Echo - bunch of hypocrites by the sounds of it. They are inciting a boycott (witch-hunt) of shops on the grounds that they are not patriotic - it's not democratic and could probably incur damages.
In the end, it's all about the money - DE sales.
I support the troops. But I for one will not buy another Daily Echo - bunch of hypocrites by the sounds of it. They are inciting a boycott (witch-hunt) of shops on the grounds that they are not patriotic - it's not democratic and could probably incur damages. In the end, it's all about the money - DE sales. spotburst
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12:50pm Mon 22 Jul 13

sotonwinch09 says...

Just walked into town and saw one of these posters. The Daily Echo and Hants Chronicle logo take up half the page. The poster looks like it was made in Microsoft Publisher by an 11 year old too. No wonder some shops didn't put them up.

Also, Half the shops in the yes list had no poster on display either.
Just walked into town and saw one of these posters. The Daily Echo and Hants Chronicle logo take up half the page. The poster looks like it was made in Microsoft Publisher by an 11 year old too. No wonder some shops didn't put them up. Also, Half the shops in the yes list had no poster on display either. sotonwinch09
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2:00pm Mon 22 Jul 13

annoyed2013 says...

WOOLSTONCHAP wrote:
will not use those shops again !!!
Small and narrow minded and obviously believes the bull this paper writes
[quote][p][bold]WOOLSTONCHAP[/bold] wrote: will not use those shops again !!![/p][/quote]Small and narrow minded and obviously believes the bull this paper writes annoyed2013
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2:06pm Mon 22 Jul 13

jls217 says...

AdamSFC wrote:
business-guru wrote:
The Phantomerer wrote:
Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?
no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.
Well, in a very real sense, Muslim fundamentalists are fascists. But you're right, fascists generally only kill you over your race or political views, much more civilised.
So I'm okay to go on supporting the Saints then?
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: Aren't the troops fighting to allow people to have freedom from fascists dictating how they should live their lives?[/p][/quote]no not fascists. Muslim fundamentalists. the difference is clear. Even fascists would not murder you and your family if they could just for not being a muslim. The teleban would given the chance.[/p][/quote]Well, in a very real sense, Muslim fundamentalists are fascists. But you're right, fascists generally only kill you over your race or political views, much more civilised.[/p][/quote]So I'm okay to go on supporting the Saints then? jls217
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Mon 22 Jul 13

kiddynamite says...

business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Buisness, You are a complete ****! You call me a tit for having a opinion. Thats what these comment threads are all about, peoples opinions.If you dont like or agree with what someone else feels then either come with a sensible grown up factual based reply or and i prefer this option Go to your local library borrow a book called the dictionary then go back to your rented shithole in chavbrook and learn some words! In case your struggling heres a word for you......****!
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Buisness, You are a complete ****! You call me a tit for having a opinion. Thats what these comment threads are all about, peoples opinions.If you dont like or agree with what someone else feels then either come with a sensible grown up factual based reply or and i prefer this option Go to your local library borrow a book called the dictionary then go back to your rented shithole in chavbrook and learn some words! In case your struggling heres a word for you......****! kiddynamite
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2:20pm Mon 22 Jul 13

kiddynamite says...

Saintly Sam wrote:
kiddynamite wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority"
Freedom of choice mate!!!!!!! Who are you Hitler??? Do as i say is it????
Jog on!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority"[/p][/quote]Freedom of choice mate!!!!!!! Who are you Hitler??? Do as i say is it???? Jog on!!!!! kiddynamite
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2:21pm Mon 22 Jul 13

kiddynamite says...

business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
Im not ignorant, i just dont agree with you, get over yourself and kindly **** off!
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]Im not ignorant, i just dont agree with you, get over yourself and kindly **** off! kiddynamite
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2:28pm Mon 22 Jul 13

kiddynamite says...

business-guru wrote:
Shoong wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
business-guru wrote:
kiddynamite wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
t1t
Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are
"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.
You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper.
no I have not missed the point, the original poster said maybe they "don't support the war". this was an idiotic comment. Shops of course are free to put up ( or not ) what they choose. But its nothing to do with supporting essential military operations.
idiotic??? so anyone who disagrees with war is a idiot in your world? Oh dear you really are confused bless you. Let me explain... As a grown adult which i assume you are you have a choice as to whether you want to believe in or support something, And if you dont then believe it or not you dont have to! Just because soem 'bigger' boys said so you do not have to follow!! Youa re not a sheep! A **** yes! But a sheep no!!!
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]t1t[/p][/quote]Why ??. . Clearly the poster is not alone in their comments ..... but you are[/p][/quote]"don't support the war" !?!? without the "war" uncivilised barbarians would have already murdered 1000s of men,women and children in this country.... this is not a "war" to support or not support. Its a necessary action to prevent people engaging in mass murder and its a "war" that will go on for decades.... The fact than many are to ignorant to appreciate this speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]You've missed the point - everyone has said they appreciate what the Armed Forces do - what they do not like is the DE 'naming and shaming' shops that are not displaying DE posters, who are, let's face it, using the return of these troops to advertise the paper.[/p][/quote]no I have not missed the point, the original poster said maybe they "don't support the war". this was an idiotic comment. Shops of course are free to put up ( or not ) what they choose. But its nothing to do with supporting essential military operations.[/p][/quote]idiotic??? so anyone who disagrees with war is a idiot in your world? Oh dear you really are confused bless you. Let me explain... As a grown adult which i assume you are you have a choice as to whether you want to believe in or support something, And if you dont then believe it or not you dont have to! Just because soem 'bigger' boys said so you do not have to follow!! Youa re not a sheep! A **** yes! But a sheep no!!! kiddynamite
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8:41pm Mon 22 Jul 13

Saintly Sam says...

kiddynamite wrote:
Saintly Sam wrote:
kiddynamite wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!!
It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority"
Freedom of choice mate!!!!!!! Who are you Hitler??? Do as i say is it????
Jog on!!!!!
Firstly, I'm not your "mate", secondly, try using some punctuation, thirdly, adding more than one question mark or exclamation point does not add any weight to your post, it just makes you look like a chump.

Here is how your post should have been written.

Freedom of choice, mate.
Who are you, Hitler?
Do as I say, is it?
Jog on.

And what on earth does "Jog on" mean, are you five years old?
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: I for one would put up the poster but......each to their own. So because the shops in question dont want to give the daily echo a free advert you feel the need to slag them off in your newspaper. Maybe they dont support the war?! Stop assuming and do some real reporting!!![/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with supporting a war, and everything to do with supporting the troops, shops "citing head office policy" are just making pathetic excuses, they are probably afraid of upsetting a "minority"[/p][/quote]Freedom of choice mate!!!!!!! Who are you Hitler??? Do as i say is it???? Jog on!!!!![/p][/quote]Firstly, I'm not your "mate", secondly, try using some punctuation, thirdly, adding more than one question mark or exclamation point does not add any weight to your post, it just makes you look like a chump. Here is how your post should have been written. Freedom of choice, mate. Who are you, Hitler? Do as I say, is it? Jog on. And what on earth does "Jog on" mean, are you five years old? Saintly Sam
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11:44am Tue 23 Jul 13

jonone says...

spiritofold wrote:
I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole!
Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP)
[quote][p][bold]spiritofold[/bold] wrote: I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole![/p][/quote]Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP) jonone
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5:19pm Tue 23 Jul 13

Saintly Sam says...

jonone wrote:
spiritofold wrote:
I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole!
Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP)
He has made a judgement, you are just aggrieved that it does not mirror your own, and how dare you assume that he supports right wing groups such as the BNP or EDL, (perhaps you're a communist) clearly you are the "brainless one" here
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritofold[/bold] wrote: I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole![/p][/quote]Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP)[/p][/quote]He has made a judgement, you are just aggrieved that it does not mirror your own, and how dare you assume that he supports right wing groups such as the BNP or EDL, (perhaps you're a communist) clearly you are the "brainless one" here Saintly Sam
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11:12am Fri 2 Aug 13

cantthinkofone says...

Saintly Sam wrote:
jonone wrote:
spiritofold wrote:
I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole!
Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP)
He has made a judgement, you are just aggrieved that it does not mirror your own, and how dare you assume that he supports right wing groups such as the BNP or EDL, (perhaps you're a communist) clearly you are the "brainless one" here
"perhaps you're a communist" lol.

What is this, the USA under McCarthy?
[quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritofold[/bold] wrote: I vote with my wallet and will never be spending any of my hard earned cash with the shops concerned. Shame on the managers and companies as a whole![/p][/quote]Aaah, don't you love the brainless ones unable to make a judgement for themselves. The Daily Echo must love your sort (so too the EDL and BNP)[/p][/quote]He has made a judgement, you are just aggrieved that it does not mirror your own, and how dare you assume that he supports right wing groups such as the BNP or EDL, (perhaps you're a communist) clearly you are the "brainless one" here[/p][/quote]"perhaps you're a communist" lol. What is this, the USA under McCarthy? cantthinkofone
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