Storm blows roof off flats in Townhill Park area in Southampton

Daily Echo: The flats in Benhams Road, Townhill Park, Southampton The flats in Benhams Road, Townhill Park, Southampton

A HOUSING estate in Southampton is resembling a disaster zone today after last night's storm ripped the roof off a block of flats.

Tarmac sheeting, timber and polystyrene blocks are littering a pathway outside a three-storey block in Benhams Road, Townhill, after a section of the roof crashed to the ground during fierce winds and lashing rain.

The structure, covering three flats, was torn off shortly before 8.30pm as the storm struck the county, leaving a trail of chaos in its wake.

Southampton City Council contractors have erected metal hoardings around the wreckage but a section of roof on top of the three-storey block is still hanging off.

Mum of three Mikhala Forbes who lives on the first floor was assessing the damage today.

She initially heard the thunder but was only alerted about the damage when her friend living in a neighbouring block telephoned her.

Mikhala, 29, said: “She told me part of the roof was on the floor . I looked out and I couldn't believe it.

Daily Echo:

Mikhala Forbes

“The roof was on the ground with loads of timber and polystyrene around it.

“It was like a disaster zone.”

Her three children Paige, five, Jayden, three, and Logan, ten months, slept through the drama but she said: ““It was really scary - the rain was hammering down and the wind was so strong the trees were bending over to the side severely.

“I've been here 26 years and I've never seen anything like this.”

“It's just lucky no one was walking underneath it.

“But the other part is still hanging off now and we worry that if there's another strong gust of wind it will rip it off.

Noone was hurt and it is believed all residents were able to remain in their flats throughout.

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10:29am Wed 23 Oct 13

loosehead says...

Save the builders from some demolishing works won't it?
Save the builders from some demolishing works won't it? loosehead

10:52am Wed 23 Oct 13

sotonboy84 says...

Hardly a 'disaster zone'. The roof was clearly past it and the winds took off a rotten piece of roof felt.
Hardly a 'disaster zone'. The roof was clearly past it and the winds took off a rotten piece of roof felt. sotonboy84

11:40am Wed 23 Oct 13

Tenderhearts wife says...

most of these flats are coming down for redevelopment anyway, perhaps this one will get done sooner rather than later.
most of these flats are coming down for redevelopment anyway, perhaps this one will get done sooner rather than later. Tenderhearts wife

12:06pm Wed 23 Oct 13

saint_rednwhite says...

Looks to me as an improvement. to the block =)
Looks to me as an improvement. to the block =) saint_rednwhite

12:13pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

dear DE, if you would care to make proper use of words please google 'disaster zone'. I am quite sure that the inhabitants of pretty much any area of the world that is in the path of a typhoon, tornado or mega storm will have quite a few things to say to you about it.

context: a bit of the roof came off and it cause a bit of a mess. nobody was hurt.
dear DE, if you would care to make proper use of words please google 'disaster zone'. I am quite sure that the inhabitants of pretty much any area of the world that is in the path of a typhoon, tornado or mega storm will have quite a few things to say to you about it. context: a bit of the roof came off and it cause a bit of a mess. nobody was hurt. Stroppy_gramps

12:14pm Wed 23 Oct 13

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

polystyrene blocks always good in a hurricane.
polystyrene blocks always good in a hurricane. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

12:19pm Wed 23 Oct 13

ToastyTea says...

If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected.
If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected. ToastyTea

2:51pm Wed 23 Oct 13

one in a million says...

Who is "Noone"? Is he or she ok?
Who is "Noone"? Is he or she ok? one in a million

3:42pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

ToastyTea wrote:
If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected.
Just what makes you think the tenants are unemployed and are not paying rent, thicko.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected.[/p][/quote]Just what makes you think the tenants are unemployed and are not paying rent, thicko. Inform Al

3:46pm Wed 23 Oct 13

bigfella777 says...

I feel sorry for Paige, Jayden and Logan.
I feel sorry for Paige, Jayden and Logan. bigfella777

3:47pm Wed 23 Oct 13

hello there says...

i cant tell the different what a ---- hole
i cant tell the different what a ---- hole hello there

4:14pm Wed 23 Oct 13

hello there says...

ToastyTea wrote:
If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected.
so your saying if your on benifits and live in a council house you should expect the roof to blow off??? dont be stuipid... your obviously born with a silver spoon in your mouth or just up your own arse, either way you havnt a clue about living in the real world. and yes ive got a job pay taxes etc
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: If the residents have got a problem with it perhaps they could get a job and rent nicer accommodation instead of living in free council house with benefits where these sorts of problems are to be expected.[/p][/quote]so your saying if your on benifits and live in a council house you should expect the roof to blow off??? dont be stuipid... your obviously born with a silver spoon in your mouth or just up your own arse, either way you havnt a clue about living in the real world. and yes ive got a job pay taxes etc hello there

4:39pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Anonymous085 says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all Anonymous085

4:40pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Big Mac says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I feel sorry for Paige, Jayden and Logan.
Yes, it's a pity there's three lovely rural locations are in the middle of the disaster zone – let's hope the aid gets through!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Paige, Jayden and Logan.[/p][/quote]Yes, it's a pity there's three lovely rural locations are in the middle of the disaster zone – let's hope the aid gets through! Big Mac

6:14pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Starof3 says...

Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
[quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child! Starof3

6:53pm Wed 23 Oct 13

kbirtt says...

Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
mr-la-de-da i think you are a complete tw@t....... just wondering if you'd like to enlighten us to what your fantastic name is .....Graham lmao
[quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]mr-la-de-da i think you are a complete tw@t....... just wondering if you'd like to enlighten us to what your fantastic name is .....Graham lmao kbirtt

7:23pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Mrs justsayin' says...

Just because people live in council flats does not mean to say they don't work. Fact. And, even if families are not working, they are entitled to safe and suitable housing. The 'rotten' roof should have been maintained properly and thank god it didn't hurt someone.
Just because people live in council flats does not mean to say they don't work. Fact. And, even if families are not working, they are entitled to safe and suitable housing. The 'rotten' roof should have been maintained properly and thank god it didn't hurt someone. Mrs justsayin'

8:07pm Wed 23 Oct 13

sass says...

Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no!
[quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no! sass

8:13pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Catchmeifyoucan26 says...

I'm being kicked out today as the water is coming through my ceiling even though I live the other side of the block. There is two roofs over a year ago I got the same leak and it took them 4 months to do a temp fix.
The inner roof on my side is all rotten and the outta roof where it was blown off was rotten. So to stop the leak they just put a patch on the rotten bit of roof on the outta side where it blew off! They needed to rip back both roofs and redo them but decided to save money and hope for the best. These blocks are not being knocked down for another 10-15years!
PS I'm a mum of three and I have a job!
I'm being kicked out today as the water is coming through my ceiling even though I live the other side of the block. There is two roofs over a year ago I got the same leak and it took them 4 months to do a temp fix. The inner roof on my side is all rotten and the outta roof where it was blown off was rotten. So to stop the leak they just put a patch on the rotten bit of roof on the outta side where it blew off! They needed to rip back both roofs and redo them but decided to save money and hope for the best. These blocks are not being knocked down for another 10-15years! PS I'm a mum of three and I have a job! Catchmeifyoucan26

8:33pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Just my view says...

That's the least of townhill parks problems, it's an absolute mess.
That's the least of townhill parks problems, it's an absolute mess. Just my view

8:44pm Wed 23 Oct 13

mr pops says...

sass wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no!
nice one insult the names of some distressed mother kids and when the table is tuned you do not think its fair if i was you i would eat humble pie about the mum as for manners check yours out
[quote][p][bold]sass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no![/p][/quote]nice one insult the names of some distressed mother kids and when the table is tuned you do not think its fair if i was you i would eat humble pie about the mum as for manners check yours out mr pops

9:04pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame.
I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela.
See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy.
Hope that helps! :-)
[quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-) Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

9:11pm Wed 23 Oct 13

loosehead says...

Why not build several blocks of one bedroomed flats & then houses spread out instead of this high density housing they're talking about?
as the storm has already started to demolish what's already there they could kill two birds with one stone.
enough one bedroomed flats for people to down size too & houses with room for the children to play in the gardens or isn't Labour for enjoyment of life?
Why not build several blocks of one bedroomed flats & then houses spread out instead of this high density housing they're talking about? as the storm has already started to demolish what's already there they could kill two birds with one stone. enough one bedroomed flats for people to down size too & houses with room for the children to play in the gardens or isn't Labour for enjoyment of life? loosehead

9:13pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Reality-man says...

How very dare you
How very dare you Reality-man

9:29pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Starof3 says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame.
I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela.
See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy.
Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :) Starof3

9:31pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Anonymous085 says...

sass wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no!
its ok im sure its medication time soon
[quote][p][bold]sass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]Your mother didn't bring you up with punctuation either. "Don't say nothing at all" (sic). He didn't, he said something. Double negative is a no-no![/p][/quote]its ok im sure its medication time soon Anonymous085

9:37pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction.
I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged.
Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage.
I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience.
God bless you.
[quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

9:55pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Anonymous085 says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction.
I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged.
Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage.
I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience.
God bless you.
trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.[/p][/quote]trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you Anonymous085

10:03pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.
trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you
I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation.
When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe!
[quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.[/p][/quote]trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you[/p][/quote]I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation. When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe! Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

10:39pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Starof3 says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.
trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you
I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation.
When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe!
Just because my name is spelt different does not make it wrong in any way! My name,family or my life have nothing to do with you so you don't need to comment on it at all! I find it almost amusing that you have spent your night commenting on something that you don't care about sad lil man leave me and my family alone and concentrate on your own little bubble of a life
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.[/p][/quote]trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you[/p][/quote]I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation. When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe![/p][/quote]Just because my name is spelt different does not make it wrong in any way! My name,family or my life have nothing to do with you so you don't need to comment on it at all! I find it almost amusing that you have spent your night commenting on something that you don't care about sad lil man leave me and my family alone and concentrate on your own little bubble of a life Starof3

10:46pm Wed 23 Oct 13

Reality-man says...

Oh dear! Starof3 clearly isn't up to speed with the art of trolling.
Oh dear! Starof3 clearly isn't up to speed with the art of trolling. Reality-man

10:56pm Wed 23 Oct 13

The Mad Dog says...

So, Mr La di da etc, you say that
" I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage."
That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing).
I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.
So, Mr La di da etc, you say that " I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage." That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing). I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children. The Mad Dog

3:03am Thu 24 Oct 13

Georgethepie says...

The Mad Dog wrote:
So, Mr La di da etc, you say that
" I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage."
That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing).
I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.
I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full
time and we can't afford to start a family.
If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess.
Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill.
Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy.
[quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: So, Mr La di da etc, you say that " I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage." That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing). I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.[/p][/quote]I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full time and we can't afford to start a family. If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess. Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill. Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy. Georgethepie

5:36am Thu 24 Oct 13

skeptik says...

Always entertaining - 'it was the last government what done it' In my 60 and plenty years, I have seen boom and bust - many try and tell us it is always Labour who wreck the economy. As a member of the conservatives for 40 plus years (left when Cameron was made 'leader'). The 'truth' is down to which paper read. Reggie Maudling left office with a note left for the new chancellor - Labour. 'Sorry about the mess old son'. Anthony Barber - remember the fear that the banks were going to collapse? No of course not many only remember or cannot be bothered to research past a newspaper headline of recent times . Lived in several countries over my career, it has to be said we are very badly led politically, short term patch ups to win votes and it will continue - we support one or other and blame all of our ills on the other lot. Never cease to be amazed reading newspapers as to who gets the blame or credit for a policy often brought into being by the other lot. Same old game played by teams with red or blue shirts - the game is still the same with home advantage umpires - the loyal supporters will ensure the game plays on.
Always entertaining - 'it was the last government what done it' In my 60 and plenty years, I have seen boom and bust - many try and tell us it is always Labour who wreck the economy. As a member of the conservatives for 40 plus years (left when Cameron was made 'leader'). The 'truth' is down to which paper read. Reggie Maudling left office with a note left for the new chancellor - Labour. 'Sorry about the mess old son'. Anthony Barber - remember the fear that the banks were going to collapse? No of course not many only remember or cannot be bothered to research past a newspaper headline of recent times . Lived in several countries over my career, it has to be said we are very badly led politically, short term patch ups to win votes and it will continue - we support one or other and blame all of our ills on the other lot. Never cease to be amazed reading newspapers as to who gets the blame or credit for a policy often brought into being by the other lot. Same old game played by teams with red or blue shirts - the game is still the same with home advantage umpires - the loyal supporters will ensure the game plays on. skeptik

8:26am Thu 24 Oct 13

JanPawel says...

I googled Mikhala and it says it is an American version of that name and lot of people are call it. My name is Janek why does this matter?
I googled Mikhala and it says it is an American version of that name and lot of people are call it. My name is Janek why does this matter? JanPawel

9:09am Thu 24 Oct 13

Raxx says...

skeptik wrote:
Always entertaining - 'it was the last government what done it' In my 60 and plenty years, I have seen boom and bust - many try and tell us it is always Labour who wreck the economy. As a member of the conservatives for 40 plus years (left when Cameron was made 'leader'). The 'truth' is down to which paper read. Reggie Maudling left office with a note left for the new chancellor - Labour. 'Sorry about the mess old son'. Anthony Barber - remember the fear that the banks were going to collapse? No of course not many only remember or cannot be bothered to research past a newspaper headline of recent times . Lived in several countries over my career, it has to be said we are very badly led politically, short term patch ups to win votes and it will continue - we support one or other and blame all of our ills on the other lot. Never cease to be amazed reading newspapers as to who gets the blame or credit for a policy often brought into being by the other lot. Same old game played by teams with red or blue shirts - the game is still the same with home advantage umpires - the loyal supporters will ensure the game plays on.
Well said.

The only sensible solution involves pitchforks, torches, and guillotines.
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: Always entertaining - 'it was the last government what done it' In my 60 and plenty years, I have seen boom and bust - many try and tell us it is always Labour who wreck the economy. As a member of the conservatives for 40 plus years (left when Cameron was made 'leader'). The 'truth' is down to which paper read. Reggie Maudling left office with a note left for the new chancellor - Labour. 'Sorry about the mess old son'. Anthony Barber - remember the fear that the banks were going to collapse? No of course not many only remember or cannot be bothered to research past a newspaper headline of recent times . Lived in several countries over my career, it has to be said we are very badly led politically, short term patch ups to win votes and it will continue - we support one or other and blame all of our ills on the other lot. Never cease to be amazed reading newspapers as to who gets the blame or credit for a policy often brought into being by the other lot. Same old game played by teams with red or blue shirts - the game is still the same with home advantage umpires - the loyal supporters will ensure the game plays on.[/p][/quote]Well said. The only sensible solution involves pitchforks, torches, and guillotines. Raxx

9:17am Thu 24 Oct 13

Big Mac says...

My middle name is 'Roof' but I'm better off without it.
My middle name is 'Roof' but I'm better off without it. Big Mac

12:46pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

Georgethepie wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
So, Mr La di da etc, you say that
" I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage."
That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing).
I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.
I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full
time and we can't afford to start a family.
If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess.
Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill.
Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy.
You've just made a case for lots more council homes to be built. I was able to buy my first home whilst my family were very young thanks to Maggie bringing the cost of houses down to a level I could afford. When we get a party in power that puts us and the nation before its rich property owning party donors, and builds the needed social housing, a la Maggie, the cost of houses will fall to an affordablr level, ie affordable houses due to the price and not by enabling the purchasers to borrow more than they can often afford. Its worth remembering that Maggie introduced MIRAS to cover the interest on your mortgage should you become unemployed, Browns lot took it away, so buying your own home can be quite perillous.
[quote][p][bold]Georgethepie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: So, Mr La di da etc, you say that " I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage." That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing). I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.[/p][/quote]I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full time and we can't afford to start a family. If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess. Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill. Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy.[/p][/quote]You've just made a case for lots more council homes to be built. I was able to buy my first home whilst my family were very young thanks to Maggie bringing the cost of houses down to a level I could afford. When we get a party in power that puts us and the nation before its rich property owning party donors, and builds the needed social housing, a la Maggie, the cost of houses will fall to an affordablr level, ie affordable houses due to the price and not by enabling the purchasers to borrow more than they can often afford. Its worth remembering that Maggie introduced MIRAS to cover the interest on your mortgage should you become unemployed, Browns lot took it away, so buying your own home can be quite perillous. Inform Al

5:31pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote:
Starof3 wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child!
Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)
You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)
Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.
trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you
I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation. When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe!
Just because my name is spelt different does not make it wrong in any way! My name,family or my life have nothing to do with you so you don't need to comment on it at all! I find it almost amusing that you have spent your night commenting on something that you don't care about sad lil man leave me and my family alone and concentrate on your own little bubble of a life
My dear, please excuse me for not replying to your post last night but I'm afraid my bed called me since I work full-time and have an early start.

I might point out at this juncture that if one opts to be featured on the local rag's pages and website, one must understand that one may receive comments that they do not necessarily find agreeable - and also, of course, that one WILL get challenged on certain points!

I am sorry if you think I am trying to insult you or belittle you, this was never my intention. I am merely trying to express my indignation regarding the fact that at NO POINT during the registration of your birth or your Christening (possibly) did anybody see fit to quietly take your mother to one side and explain to her that Michaela, beautiful name as it is, is actually "spelt *this* way, dear".

This lack of willingness on the part of supposedly educated persons to raise their heads above the parapet of political correctness is, in my mind, rather symptomatic of the present day malaise in which society finds itself.

I understand from the Echo's article that you are in your mid twenties or thereabouts, it's just a suggestion but it certainly isn't too late to put things right vis-à-vis your name. A simple deed poll name change which you could arrange yourself without the need of a solicitor could well be the answer, as I understand it this simple process is available at a cost of around £10-£50 - as I said, this is merely a suggestion, it is not intended to be in any way patronising or condescending to your good self.

Once again, I am sorry if my previous posts have irked or annoyed you in any way, that was never my intention. I wish you and your family well.

All the best.

Graham.
[quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Starof3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]How dare you!! Who do you think you are! My mother or my children have nothing to do with you! If you would like to come here and discuss this face to face instead of through a computer you are more then welcome. My children are from a working class family and have everything they need!! Obviously you was not loved as a child![/p][/quote]Well, I see you're enjoying your much yearned for fifteen minutes of fame. I'm not entirely without sympathy for your plight, it must be rather hard to live your life under a name which is clearly a typo, Michaela. See - I *DO* have good manners - I'll address you by the christian name you were *intended* to have, not as the grammatical bodge printed on your birth certificate due to your forebears' illiteracy. Hope that helps! :-)[/p][/quote]You "clearly" have a thing for causing trouble you have good manners? Really? So being rude and abusive to me and my family is having "good manners"? Seriously come here and say all this to my face hard man being rude about me is fine bring my family into it an its a serious mistake sat behind a computer abusing others wow a round of applause for someone who uses spell checker! I hope you haven't got children because with a father like you I would disown your ****! Have a nice evening won't you GRA-HAM (such an amazing unique name) hope your family are well! :)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, well there's no need for thinly-veiled threats of physical violence to pepper your hysterical over-reaction. I have nothing personal against you or your family, I'm merely rather exasperated that when we are living, as we do, in a country where everyone gets at least ten years of free education plus another two or three if they so desire, that such absurd, fundamental spelling errors go unchecked and unchallenged. Just for the record, I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage. I hope the roof of your block gets repaired as soon as humanly possible if it is causing you any inconvenience. God bless you.[/p][/quote]trolls will be trolls and if something as misspelling makes your blood boil or angers you ie exasperated you then as far as i can see the only one that is overreacting is you[/p][/quote]I can assure you, my dear, that the odd typo here and there on the interweb isn't something that will cause me much consternation. When people fail to spell the female derivative of the proper noun "Michael" correctly, and, more to the point, are not corrected on the issue by supposedly educated professional persons along the way such as registrars, doctors or clegymen, it is then that I start to cringe![/p][/quote]Just because my name is spelt different does not make it wrong in any way! My name,family or my life have nothing to do with you so you don't need to comment on it at all! I find it almost amusing that you have spent your night commenting on something that you don't care about sad lil man leave me and my family alone and concentrate on your own little bubble of a life[/p][/quote]My dear, please excuse me for not replying to your post last night but I'm afraid my bed called me since I work full-time and have an early start. I might point out at this juncture that if one opts to be featured on the local rag's pages and website, one must understand that one may receive comments that they do not necessarily find agreeable - and also, of course, that one WILL get challenged on certain points! I am sorry if you think I am trying to insult you or belittle you, this was never my intention. I am merely trying to express my indignation regarding the fact that at NO POINT during the registration of your birth or your Christening (possibly) did anybody see fit to quietly take your mother to one side and explain to her that Michaela, beautiful name as it is, is actually "spelt *this* way, dear". This lack of willingness on the part of supposedly educated persons to raise their heads above the parapet of political correctness is, in my mind, rather symptomatic of the present day malaise in which society finds itself. I understand from the Echo's article that you are in your mid twenties or thereabouts, it's just a suggestion but it certainly isn't too late to put things right vis-à-vis your name. A simple deed poll name change which you could arrange yourself without the need of a solicitor could well be the answer, as I understand it this simple process is available at a cost of around £10-£50 - as I said, this is merely a suggestion, it is not intended to be in any way patronising or condescending to your good self. Once again, I am sorry if my previous posts have irked or annoyed you in any way, that was never my intention. I wish you and your family well. All the best. Graham. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

5:34pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Georgethepie says...

I think you will find i have not. What I have said is if my roof comes off tonight I will be the one paying out not the council.
As it goes I totally disagree with the building and selling off of council houses and believe they should only be for people in serious need.
If you or anyone else chooses to start a family then good luck. However don't expect the council to put a roof over your head as some kind of reward and then further sugar coat it by giving you discount on that house once you have lived in it for a period of time.
That's just bad business and a complete kick in the teeth for all those not untitled to a council house.
Personally I think the system is totally out of balance and leaning towards people that believe they are owed something in life.
If I had my way I wouldn't be paying for council houses, library's, or schools and I certainly wouldn't contribute to the old family allowance which is another bonus for firing out children.
I think you will find i have not. What I have said is if my roof comes off tonight I will be the one paying out not the council. As it goes I totally disagree with the building and selling off of council houses and believe they should only be for people in serious need. If you or anyone else chooses to start a family then good luck. However don't expect the council to put a roof over your head as some kind of reward and then further sugar coat it by giving you discount on that house once you have lived in it for a period of time. That's just bad business and a complete kick in the teeth for all those not untitled to a council house. Personally I think the system is totally out of balance and leaning towards people that believe they are owed something in life. If I had my way I wouldn't be paying for council houses, library's, or schools and I certainly wouldn't contribute to the old family allowance which is another bonus for firing out children. Georgethepie

5:36pm Thu 24 Oct 13

The Mad Dog says...

Georgethepie wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
So, Mr La di da etc, you say that
" I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage."
That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing).
I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.
I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full
time and we can't afford to start a family.
If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess.
Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill.
Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy.
I can understand what he is saying too.
When my wife & I started our family we were both in full time employment and we had a mortgage. Never assume anything! I've never lived in "a council place"
Like you, if my roof blew off its me that has to pay, the excess at least, and if I want new windows, decorating done, central heating fitted, any repairs to the building etc, etc. its me that pays for it.
We had to make some major changes to our lifestyle to allow for the expense that goes with having a family, but we did. I am not saying it was easy as my wife stopped working full time to bring up our two boys until they were at school. I was working up to 20 hrs o/t each week to try to provide for my family. My wife got herself a part-time job three evenings a week. I appreciate that since my two were born things are different and money is a lot tighter and jobs not so easy to come by. I have not had a pay increase for 4 years now and am earning some 40% less than I was 10 years ago (got made redundant) but hey, that's life as they say.
The point I was trying to make was that working full time and having a mortgage does not stop you having children if you really want them.
[quote][p][bold]Georgethepie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: So, Mr La di da etc, you say that " I don't have an children of my own because we simply cannot afford them since we both work and have a mortgage." That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Keep saying that to yourselves and you never will have any children. (any perhaps that's a good thing). I think most married couples, with a mortgage or rent book, have said exactly the same at some point. The difference being those who have children have changed their priorities about where their money goes and got on and had children.[/p][/quote]I can understand what he is saying as both myself and partner work full time and we can't afford to start a family. If my roof blows off tomorrow it won't be the council fixing it and it will be me paying the excess. Must be lovely living in a council place and not have to worry about these things just pick up the phone and let someone else pick up the bill. Honestly I'm guessing your wages didn't go down by a third under the last labour government and it's cheap foreign labour policy.[/p][/quote]I can understand what he is saying too. When my wife & I started our family we were both in full time employment and we had a mortgage. Never assume anything! I've never lived in "a council place" Like you, if my roof blew off its me that has to pay, the excess at least, and if I want new windows, decorating done, central heating fitted, any repairs to the building etc, etc. its me that pays for it. We had to make some major changes to our lifestyle to allow for the expense that goes with having a family, but we did. I am not saying it was easy as my wife stopped working full time to bring up our two boys until they were at school. I was working up to 20 hrs o/t each week to try to provide for my family. My wife got herself a part-time job three evenings a week. I appreciate that since my two were born things are different and money is a lot tighter and jobs not so easy to come by. I have not had a pay increase for 4 years now and am earning some 40% less than I was 10 years ago (got made redundant) but hey, that's life as they say. The point I was trying to make was that working full time and having a mortgage does not stop you having children if you really want them. The Mad Dog

9:13pm Thu 24 Oct 13

jacob bumming says...

Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class.
Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm.
Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.
Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built. jacob bumming

9:25pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

jacob bumming wrote:
Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.
If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful.
[quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.[/p][/quote]If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

9:47pm Thu 24 Oct 13

jacob bumming says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
jacob bumming wrote:
Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.
If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful.
And that is why you are a C""t . You walked straight into that, I rest my case. Read the book.

Take a hard look in the mirror Sir

Regards
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.[/p][/quote]If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful.[/p][/quote]And that is why you are a C""t . You walked straight into that, I rest my case. Read the book. Take a hard look in the mirror Sir Regards jacob bumming

10:10am Fri 25 Oct 13

RomseyKeith says...

Graham, you seem very intollerent towards different attitudes and cultures, which is borderline racist. Her mother clearly to chose to adopt a different spelling of the name (the American spelling, look it up). Maybe she is named after an ancestor. Maybe her family has roots in America. You don't know her geniology, so to judge the spelling of the name as wrong because it does not conform to English is unfair and prejudice (as you are prejudging her by her class and name). You are also incredibly patronising with your use of the words "one" and "my dear".
Also, language is constantly changing and evolving with the times. We are a multi-cultural society, and language constantly adapts to the needs of those using it. If you were to travel back in time 100 years, there would be phrases, words and expressions which may not be recognised as they have fallen out of usage.
Your intollerence of other cultures is your right. But to attack someone based solely on their name and use of grammar is highly prejudice. (Poor use of grammar and spelling after all need not be a sign of poor education but indicative of a disorder such as dyslexia).
Graham, you seem very intollerent towards different attitudes and cultures, which is borderline racist. Her mother clearly to chose to adopt a different spelling of the name (the American spelling, look it up). Maybe she is named after an ancestor. Maybe her family has roots in America. You don't know her geniology, so to judge the spelling of the name as wrong because it does not conform to English is unfair and prejudice (as you are prejudging her by her class and name). You are also incredibly patronising with your use of the words "one" and "my dear". Also, language is constantly changing and evolving with the times. We are a multi-cultural society, and language constantly adapts to the needs of those using it. If you were to travel back in time 100 years, there would be phrases, words and expressions which may not be recognised as they have fallen out of usage. Your intollerence of other cultures is your right. But to attack someone based solely on their name and use of grammar is highly prejudice. (Poor use of grammar and spelling after all need not be a sign of poor education but indicative of a disorder such as dyslexia). RomseyKeith

11:28am Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.
[quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously. From the sidelines

11:39am Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish. From the sidelines

11:49am Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

jacob bumming wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham
wrote:
jacob bumming wrote:
Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.
If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful.
And that is why you are a C""t . You walked straight into that, I rest my case. Read the book.

Take a hard look in the mirror Sir

Regards
No. He's absolutely right. Your post is an utter mess. I doubt that any of the labourers coming to the UK from the eastern bloc countries could have made a bigger mess of the language.

And your recommendation of a book by that tedious little champagne socialist? I'm sure it supports your prejudice, but it is neither a well-written nor a scholarly work.
[quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Some of these comments are very sad, before I state my case I would say maybe Graham should read Chavs the denomination of the working class. Mikhala sorry your roof came off in that awful storm. Now Graham why do you feel you have to judge and demonize someone because of there name or were they live. For people who have this image that everyone who lives in social housing is scum that bleed the state dry need to do there home work because there are people claiming benefits allover the country from farmers to disabled people to refugees to working family and single parents. Graham the way you judged Mikhala then patronized her then thought you would tell us about your mortgage and work was as if you were trying to bully and be judge mental about somebody you don't no like your the lord of the manor and she is one of your labors. We live in a society which is always trying to judge and divide us and the truth of it is you may think your are middle class but you are poly not who cares about a class system you can't speak to people like S??t. Your life could change tomorrow and you could have nothing then this great country will house you and help you get back on your feet. I bet 90% of the people in this block have a job not the best paid but they have a job don't be so quick to judge and do your History and research why Town hill was built.[/p][/quote]If anyone could be so kind as to decipher the above hieroglyphics, text-speak and general atrocious grammar into clear and concise English, I'd be eternally grateful.[/p][/quote]And that is why you are a C""t . You walked straight into that, I rest my case. Read the book. Take a hard look in the mirror Sir Regards[/p][/quote]No. He's absolutely right. Your post is an utter mess. I doubt that any of the labourers coming to the UK from the eastern bloc countries could have made a bigger mess of the language. And your recommendation of a book by that tedious little champagne socialist? I'm sure it supports your prejudice, but it is neither a well-written nor a scholarly work. From the sidelines

11:50am Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G


raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.
The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.[/p][/quote]The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts. Inform Al

12:22pm Fri 25 Oct 13

RomseyKeith says...

From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables...
Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp.
There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due. RomseyKeith

12:41pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G

raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave. Inform Al

2:57pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G



raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.
The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.
No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling.

To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.[/p][/quote]The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.[/p][/quote]No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling. To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects. From the sidelines

2:58pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables...
Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp.
There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.
Easy.

Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.
[quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.[/p][/quote]Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable. From the sidelines

3:00pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G


raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.
This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need?

Either way, embarrassing.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.[/p][/quote]This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need? Either way, embarrassing. From the sidelines

3:22pm Fri 25 Oct 13

RomseyKeith says...

From the sidelines wrote:
RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.
Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.
Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is.
Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this.
You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.[/p][/quote]Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.[/p][/quote]Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is. Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this. You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced. RomseyKeith

3:37pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G



raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.
This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need?

Either way, embarrassing.
As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.[/p][/quote]This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need? Either way, embarrassing.[/p][/quote]As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors. Inform Al

3:39pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G




raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.
The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.
No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling.

To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects.
As I said, pedantic tw4t
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.[/p][/quote]The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.[/p][/quote]No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling. To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects.[/p][/quote]As I said, pedantic tw4t Inform Al

7:26pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Anonymous085 wrote:
Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G





raham
wrote:
"Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela".
Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.
for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all
She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.
The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.
No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling.

To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects.
As I said, pedantic tw4t
Yet oh, so right.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anonymous085[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: "Mikhala". I suppose her own mother was unable to spell "Michaela". Her own kids' names are an astounding monument to bad taste also.[/p][/quote]for a start how dare you bring my mother into this and bringing 3 innocent children into this is dam right out of order how dare you also our mother brought us up with manners if you have nothing nice to say then dont say nothing at all[/p][/quote]She may have brought you up with manners, but you missed the English lessons, obviously.[/p][/quote]The poster used a local expression, this happens worldwide and is only picked up on by pedantic tw4ts.[/p][/quote]No. They didn't. The poster wrote without punctuation, capitalisation or accurate spelling. To class that as a 'local expression' denigrates Southampton, its people and its dialects.[/p][/quote]As I said, pedantic tw4t[/p][/quote]Yet oh, so right. From the sidelines

7:28pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G




raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.
This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need?

Either way, embarrassing.
As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors.
" I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married" so you gave your fortune away, and now live off the taxpayer.

Very generous with others' money.

Shameful.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.[/p][/quote]This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need? Either way, embarrassing.[/p][/quote]As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors.[/p][/quote]" I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married" so you gave your fortune away, and now live off the taxpayer. Very generous with others' money. Shameful. From the sidelines

7:31pm Fri 25 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.
Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.
Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is.
Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this.
You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced.
When there are families in which multiple generations choose not to work, poverty has been made too comfortable.

That said, I shall not be quitting my job anytime soon, as I am even more comfortable, and I have the pride that everything is the result of my own efforts.
[quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.[/p][/quote]Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.[/p][/quote]Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is. Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this. You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced.[/p][/quote]When there are families in which multiple generations choose not to work, poverty has been made too comfortable. That said, I shall not be quitting my job anytime soon, as I am even more comfortable, and I have the pride that everything is the result of my own efforts. From the sidelines

10:36pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
RomseyKeith wrote:
From the sidelines wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.
Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.
Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is.
Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this.
You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced.
When there are families in which multiple generations choose not to work, poverty has been made too comfortable.

That said, I shall not be quitting my job anytime soon, as I am even more comfortable, and I have the pride that everything is the result of my own efforts.
Where that applies it is to just a few, don't lump all those unfortunate to be either out ofd work or in low paid jobs through no fault of their own in with them..
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]What do you see as the best way forward? Some sort of class segregation? Maybe some form of camp where they can be isolated. Germany had similar camps for their undesirables... Or maybe if they cannot find work they should be forced to work. So all those on benefits for disability, who cannot live on their means, should be forced into some form of labour camp. There are some scroungers out there who have no desire to work, but do not tarnish them all with the same brush. Not all people from council estates spend their days high on pot and reproducing with anyone willing and able. There are those who want to better themselves, who attend college and work hard to put themselves through University. Some are lazy and prefer to claim benefits, but this is not always the easier option as most find themselves penniless before the next payment is due.[/p][/quote]Easy. Stop making 'poverty' so comfortable.[/p][/quote]Do you really think 'poverty' is comfortable? If you think it is so comfortable, then why not quit your job, and sign on. Live in social housing. Live hand-to-mouth for a few months, and then say how comfortable it is. Most people do not find poverty in the least bit comfortable. There is a minority out there who prefer not to work, and they're usually the ones who aren't solely living off benefits, but also that which they can beg, borrow, and steal. But not all people stuck in a 'poverty trap' are like this. You are judging all by the few, which is prejudiced.[/p][/quote]When there are families in which multiple generations choose not to work, poverty has been made too comfortable. That said, I shall not be quitting my job anytime soon, as I am even more comfortable, and I have the pride that everything is the result of my own efforts.[/p][/quote]Where that applies it is to just a few, don't lump all those unfortunate to be either out ofd work or in low paid jobs through no fault of their own in with them.. Inform Al

10:37pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G





raham makes an excellent point.

The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family.

Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means.

The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.
The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.
This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need?

Either way, embarrassing.
As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors.
" I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married" so you gave your fortune away, and now live off the taxpayer.

Very generous with others' money.

Shameful.
So you judge without knowing the facts, stupidly shameful.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I think Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham makes an excellent point. The rougher part of society will always reproduce like rabbits because their income will rise in proportion to the size of their family. Unfortunately, the wealth-generating section of society, those we would do well to encourage, limit their family's size according to their means. The longer term effect of this is that the population will grow among the rougher section, dependent on benefits and other miscellaneous handouts, whilst the wealth-generating and tax-paying section will diminish.[/p][/quote]The numbers misusing benefits are a very small percenrage of those claiming, I myself after a lifetime in work am getting a very small part of my rent paid by housing benefit. The impression that the working class are really the shirking class is a disengeuous misrepresentation by Dodgy Dave.[/p][/quote]This is, indeed, very sad. That you can't earn enough to house yourself, or is it that you choose a larger property than you need? Either way, embarrassing.[/p][/quote]As I live in a one bed sheltered flat it is obvious that your perceptions have benn badly affected by Dodgy Dave, reality is that in my lifetime I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married, it was easy when Maggie ran the country and made houses cheap enough for ordinary workers to afford. Instead of running down those who need social housing, we should be building the badly needed social housing, not just for the few who do not want to work, but for the majority who have not got a chance of buying their own homes whilst Dodgy keeps the property values up to please his rich property owning party donors.[/p][/quote]" I bought 3 houses to house my children when they got married" so you gave your fortune away, and now live off the taxpayer. Very generous with others' money. Shameful.[/p][/quote]So you judge without knowing the facts, stupidly shameful. Inform Al

10:42am Sun 27 Oct 13

From the sidelines says...

I judge on the 'facts' you provide.

That puts me at the mercy of your inability to express yourself clearly and effectively.
I judge on the 'facts' you provide. That puts me at the mercy of your inability to express yourself clearly and effectively. From the sidelines

11:40am Sun 27 Oct 13

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
I judge on the 'facts' you provide.

That puts me at the mercy of your inability to express yourself clearly and effectively.
I'm not gonna write a biography just for your benefit. If you stopped sheepishly following your party's line and treated all people as equal you may not make such a pr4t of yourself. You're so called judgement was just a figment of your ridiculous imagination.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I judge on the 'facts' you provide. That puts me at the mercy of your inability to express yourself clearly and effectively.[/p][/quote]I'm not gonna write a biography just for your benefit. If you stopped sheepishly following your party's line and treated all people as equal you may not make such a pr4t of yourself. You're so called judgement was just a figment of your ridiculous imagination. Inform Al

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