Planned 11 per cent pay rise handled "in worst possible way" says Denham

Daily Echo: Denham condemns handling of planned pay rise for MPs Denham condemns handling of planned pay rise for MPs

A HAMPSHIRE MP has criticised the way the inflation-busting 11 per cent pay rise planned for members of parliament has been handled.

The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) is due to unveil its recommended package of Westminster pay later this week.

Set up to decide pay for MPs after expenses scandal, it is expected to announce a boost to basic salaries to £74,000 from 2015 - 11 per cent higher than at present.

Southampton Itchen MP John Denham, who is standing down at the next General Election, said last night: “It won't affect me, but this has been handled in the worst possible way.

“There is no doubt that MPs pay has slipped behind doctors and headteachers that they used to be compared to.

“My worry is that by proposing such a large increase you are going to get huge pressure on candidates to say they will not take the money.

"We are very rapidly getting to the situation where it will be impossible to increase MPs pay ever.

"Then only people with some sort of private income from family or partner who are going in to politics long-term,” said the former cabinet minister.

Mr Denham, former Home Office minister, was the only local MP to respond to approaches from the Daily Echo.

But the move is fiercely opposed by the three main party leaders, who fear a voter backlash.

Cabinet minister Danny Alexander said yesterday: “Most people will find it utterly incomprehensible that at a time of pay restraint for the public sector, at a time of further squeezes on Government spending, that IPSA should be recommending (that), if that's what they do.

“I think it would be wholly inappropriate for MPs to get such a large pay rise at a time when every other public sector worker sees their pay rises capped at one per cent.”

Mathew Sinclair, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance campaign group, said: “Taxpayers will be furious that the pay rise comes at a time when MPs urge public pay restraint and the Chancellor tells us he can't afford to ease the burden of taxes on hard-pressed households and businesses.'”

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8:53am Mon 9 Dec 13

Miguel Raton says...

''There is no doubt that MPs pay has slipped behind doctors and headteachers that they used to be compared to. ''

The problem is that headteachers and doctors are grossly overpaid due to the incompetence of politicians in running education and health. They now wish to be rewarded for that incompetence.
''There is no doubt that MPs pay has slipped behind doctors and headteachers that they used to be compared to. '' The problem is that headteachers and doctors are grossly overpaid due to the incompetence of politicians in running education and health. They now wish to be rewarded for that incompetence. Miguel Raton

8:54am Mon 9 Dec 13

skeptik says...

Linked to doctors and head teachers - why? There is no over manning in the field of the former. 640 plus MPs in a relatively small island? The most perfect nonsense in the 21st century. The levels of political interference from parish council to the EU -- a drag anchor on progress, the answer to our ills? More of them, the Lords - still recruiting. Pay peanuts and get monkeys - old chestnut which must be viewed as more than the usual line trotted out. There are many 'successful ' business people and those who have 'made a name in local politics' - is there firm evidence that these people make good MPs or ministers? If there is and we are where we are now is it wise to recruit more and increase the cost to the public? More of the same with increased salary and perks - publicly owned (but not invited) vintage wine cellar and all. Everything in UK Plc has had to change and streamline - apparently to improve efficiency - what pray would prevent this working in parliament?
Linked to doctors and head teachers - why? There is no over manning in the field of the former. 640 plus MPs in a relatively small island? The most perfect nonsense in the 21st century. The levels of political interference from parish council to the EU -- a drag anchor on progress, the answer to our ills? More of them, the Lords - still recruiting. Pay peanuts and get monkeys - old chestnut which must be viewed as more than the usual line trotted out. There are many 'successful ' business people and those who have 'made a name in local politics' - is there firm evidence that these people make good MPs or ministers? If there is and we are where we are now is it wise to recruit more and increase the cost to the public? More of the same with increased salary and perks - publicly owned (but not invited) vintage wine cellar and all. Everything in UK Plc has had to change and streamline - apparently to improve efficiency - what pray would prevent this working in parliament? skeptik

3:00pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Paramjit Bahia says...

One of the main argument in favour of massive increase in MP's pay is that due to what they are already pocketing many do not want to become MPs. But every election or by election proves that not to be true, because there are always at least three candidates from three main parties and often few more from smaller outfits.

They also say that high salaries are needed to attract people of high calibre into politics, which again is a myth created by self serving political class of with low morality and virtually without any principles. Mahatama Gandhi was highly qualified Barrister, he did what he believed to be right and on entering active politics not only gave everything away but also made his will that even after his death if any of his writings may generate any income it should be given to three trusts, set up not for his family but for his country's independence and welfare of victims of India's cancer of caste system.

Prominent lawyer Nelson Mendala did not claim any money for spending 27 years in the harsh conditions of jails where South Africa's evil aparthied regime locked him up.

People like them who will do whatever they can to serve the society have always been around, and sadly at the same time there has always been more than plenty of parasites of democracy, like many of our MPs and Councillors who want to get into our sacred institutions like Council Chambers and House of Commons to mint easy money and for their own egos.

Yes argument can be made that without wages ordinary working class or less well off people find it difficult to actively participate in public life. So the solution should be to pay the MPs average industrial shop floor workers wage. In we have had MPs who when in office only took the average industrial workers wage, and they were not exceptionally rich either, and they did not try to claim dining tables and chairs which were so expensive that even the claims office had no choice but to refuse politically dodgy Denham's demand down, and how can people forget claims for duck houses....
One of the main argument in favour of massive increase in MP's pay is that due to what they are already pocketing many do not want to become MPs. But every election or by election proves that not to be true, because there are always at least three candidates from three main parties and often few more from smaller outfits. They also say that high salaries are needed to attract people of high calibre into politics, which again is a myth created by self serving political class of with low morality and virtually without any principles. Mahatama Gandhi was highly qualified Barrister, he did what he believed to be right and on entering active politics not only gave everything away but also made his will that even after his death if any of his writings may generate any income it should be given to three trusts, set up not for his family but for his country's independence and welfare of victims of India's cancer of caste system. Prominent lawyer Nelson Mendala did not claim any money for spending 27 years in the harsh conditions of jails where South Africa's evil aparthied regime locked him up. People like them who will do whatever they can to serve the society have always been around, and sadly at the same time there has always been more than plenty of parasites of democracy, like many of our MPs and Councillors who want to get into our sacred institutions like Council Chambers and House of Commons to mint easy money and for their own egos. Yes argument can be made that without wages ordinary working class or less well off people find it difficult to actively participate in public life. So the solution should be to pay the MPs average industrial shop floor workers wage. In we have had MPs who when in office only took the average industrial workers wage, and they were not exceptionally rich either, and they did not try to claim dining tables and chairs which were so expensive that even the claims office had no choice but to refuse politically dodgy Denham's demand down, and how can people forget claims for duck houses.... Paramjit Bahia

12:09pm Tue 10 Dec 13

southy says...

Put the TUSC in office and they will cut MP's and Lords wages in half and do away with the expenses all together
Put the TUSC in office and they will cut MP's and Lords wages in half and do away with the expenses all together southy

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