UKIP member defends sign which some complained was racially motivated

Daily Echo: Timothy “Dusty” Miller pictured with his sign Timothy “Dusty” Miller pictured with his sign

IT is the political Christmas sign that has stirred up controversy in a Hampshire street.

Rather than putting up a traditional decoration this year, UKIP member Timothy “Dusty” Miller placed this alternative sign on his house in Sunday’s Hill, Hedge End.

The sign has offended some neighbours, who suggest it is racially motivated.
Even the police were called to Mr Miller’s house after a complaint was made.
They have confirmed that the sign can remain as no criminal offence has been committed.

Mr Miller, 64, remains defiant and revealed a new sign will be put on his house every month until the European elections in May.

He told the Daily Echo the sign is not racist but is an attack on the Government over its stance on immigration.

Mr Miller, who has been a taxi driver for 40 years, said: “On Remembrance Sunday, we are laying wreaths on the cenotaph to men who died defending the right for freedom of speech and democracy but we are no longer in control of that.

“We are now having to beg for anything for this country and its people and it’s now so desperate that we have to get the country back to start running it properly.

“I am not surprised it has received complaints because the police have been used many times for the wrong reason but I am more shocked that people have read into this that it’s totally down to immigration.

“It’s not about immigration – it’s about sheer numbers.

“We live in a harmonious society and we always have done, we still do at the moment, and I wish to preserve that. But very shortly it’s going to be impossible.

“That sign comes down at Christmas and another goes up with a message which is moving away from Christmas.

“The message has to get firmer and firmer until the European elections.”

A spokesman for Hampshire police said: “We are aware of the sign and that some people complained because they feel it may have racist connotations.

“We have spoken to the property owner who erected the sign, and he has told us the sign reflects a political view rather than a racial one, and as the wording of the sign is not in itself racist or offensive, no criminal offence has been committed.”

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7:02am Sun 22 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

Good sign hope it stays up, not racist at all, anyone who has a problem with it is clearly a baffoon.
Good sign hope it stays up, not racist at all, anyone who has a problem with it is clearly a baffoon. likewatchingbrazil

7:05am Sun 22 Dec 13

ian t says...

spot on !
spot on ! ian t

7:19am Sun 22 Dec 13

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

yes , GET THE MESSAGE .
If you dont like it SOD OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes , GET THE MESSAGE . If you dont like it SOD OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPIKEISLANDTRADER

7:21am Sun 22 Dec 13

Northamboy says...

I can't see a problem with the sign myself.
I can't see a problem with the sign myself. Northamboy

8:01am Sun 22 Dec 13

hays1179 says...

there is nothing wrong with the sign it saying something that a lot of people are thinking !!
there is nothing wrong with the sign it saying something that a lot of people are thinking !! hays1179

8:12am Sun 22 Dec 13

thesouth says...

I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music? thesouth

8:17am Sun 22 Dec 13

thesouth says...

A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person."
Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article
A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person." Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article thesouth

8:23am Sun 22 Dec 13

Lazy says...

I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!!

THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!!

THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :(
I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!! THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :( Lazy

8:23am Sun 22 Dec 13

Lazy says...

OH AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE ENGLISH FLAG OR THIS SIGN THEN ..... LEAVE THIS COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU EVERY BENEFIT GOING AND GO BACK HOME .... SIMPLES !!
OH AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE ENGLISH FLAG OR THIS SIGN THEN ..... LEAVE THIS COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU EVERY BENEFIT GOING AND GO BACK HOME .... SIMPLES !! Lazy

8:40am Sun 22 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

thesouth wrote:
A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person."
Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article
No, that's Sir William McPherson's contribution (well every judge can have an off day, or in Sir Stephen's case, decade) and Hants Police are right. The sign doesn't offend against the Public Order Act 1986 as amended by the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (first in a series of incredibly bad socialist criminal statutes which afflict us yet, like the socialist open door immigration policies.)
As to" welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit"
No one is forcing you to stay here, unless you're in prison , so why not away to some lovely land full of friendly foreigners, like Syria?.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person." Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article[/p][/quote]No, that's Sir William McPherson's contribution (well every judge can have an off day, or in Sir Stephen's case, decade) and Hants Police are right. The sign doesn't offend against the Public Order Act 1986 as amended by the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (first in a series of incredibly bad socialist criminal statutes which afflict us yet, like the socialist open door immigration policies.) As to" welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit" No one is forcing you to stay here, unless you're in prison , so why not away to some lovely land full of friendly foreigners, like Syria?. Dai Rear

8:48am Sun 22 Dec 13

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

well done that man ,stand up for christmas and the british way of life.
well done that man ,stand up for christmas and the british way of life. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

8:50am Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
.. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making. freefinker

9:07am Sun 22 Dec 13

jen1 says...

I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with jen1

9:10am Sun 22 Dec 13

camerajuan says...

freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point! camerajuan

9:13am Sun 22 Dec 13

mickey01 says...

thesouth wrote:
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
theres always one !
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?[/p][/quote]theres always one ! mickey01

9:14am Sun 22 Dec 13

mickey01 says...

lets hang one on every public building
lets hang one on every public building mickey01

9:19am Sun 22 Dec 13

THEKILLER says...

It's only racist if some sad people want to see it that way
It's only racist if some sad people want to see it that way THEKILLER

9:22am Sun 22 Dec 13

jazzy54zz says...

Good on him, it's what MANY believe and hope for, shame Europe and our clueless politicians don't have a clue !!
Good on him, it's what MANY believe and hope for, shame Europe and our clueless politicians don't have a clue !! jazzy54zz

9:24am Sun 22 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale.
If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale. If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction. Dai Rear

9:32am Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool. freefinker

9:35am Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

Dai Rear wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale.
If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction.
.. is that your entire argument?
I should take a coach trip??!!??
What on earth would that have to do with anything?
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale. If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction.[/p][/quote].. is that your entire argument? I should take a coach trip??!!?? What on earth would that have to do with anything? freefinker

9:42am Sun 22 Dec 13

userds5050 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale.
If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction.
"We want our country back." "Yeah, but what do you want back about it?"
"We want our country back."
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]Er , maybe you should get out more. Take a coach to London-or Birmingham-or Leicester-or Rochdale. If you still cling to the view expressed above you have, at least, severe cognitive dysfunction.[/p][/quote]"We want our country back." "Yeah, but what do you want back about it?" "We want our country back." userds5050

9:56am Sun 22 Dec 13

Huffter says...

What nationality is Father Christmas?
What nationality is Father Christmas? Huffter

9:57am Sun 22 Dec 13

Shoong says...

He's clearly an attention seeker and got his way.

I obviously don't know the guy, he doesn't look very friendly but he's got a nice watch, big house and at least two cars, one being a Merc, so it doesn't look like he's having too much of a problem with his lot, does it?
He's clearly an attention seeker and got his way. I obviously don't know the guy, he doesn't look very friendly but he's got a nice watch, big house and at least two cars, one being a Merc, so it doesn't look like he's having too much of a problem with his lot, does it? Shoong

10:11am Sun 22 Dec 13

jen1 says...

freefinker wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
"This country is a nation of immigrants." That old argument again. Yes well I suppose we all have a bit of Viking and Roman blood in us but we are not living in Viking or Roman times now are we? Your argument makes no sense and cannot be used to justify the rampant immigration into this country by anyone who wants to come. Our country is no longer great,place to live it's a mess, unemployment, debt, housing crisis, transport crisis, crime and a clashing of cultures from immigrants who do not respect the British way of life, bother to learn the language, commit crime and refuse to integrate. I want my country back too,
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.[/p][/quote]"This country is a nation of immigrants." That old argument again. Yes well I suppose we all have a bit of Viking and Roman blood in us but we are not living in Viking or Roman times now are we? Your argument makes no sense and cannot be used to justify the rampant immigration into this country by anyone who wants to come. Our country is no longer great,place to live it's a mess, unemployment, debt, housing crisis, transport crisis, crime and a clashing of cultures from immigrants who do not respect the British way of life, bother to learn the language, commit crime and refuse to integrate. I want my country back too, jen1

11:29am Sun 22 Dec 13

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...

We should start by kicking out the Royal family. They are a bunch of Krauts who live off state hand outs after all.
We should start by kicking out the Royal family. They are a bunch of Krauts who live off state hand outs after all. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

11:52am Sun 22 Dec 13

SOULJACKER says...

thesouth wrote:
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
Hahahahaha, I bet you don't even live in an area that is affected by the problem!
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?[/p][/quote]Hahahahaha, I bet you don't even live in an area that is affected by the problem! SOULJACKER

11:55am Sun 22 Dec 13

SOULJACKER says...

Lazy wrote:
I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!!

THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!!

THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :(
Here here, I have been saying it for years 'PATRIOTISM' there is nothing wrong with loving your country but at the moment there is very little to love.
I agree with you, we should all be flying the Union flag or George cross.
FREE SPEECH IS NO CRIME!
[quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!! THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :([/p][/quote]Here here, I have been saying it for years 'PATRIOTISM' there is nothing wrong with loving your country but at the moment there is very little to love. I agree with you, we should all be flying the Union flag or George cross. FREE SPEECH IS NO CRIME! SOULJACKER

11:55am Sun 22 Dec 13

camerajuan says...

freefinker wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
Nothing against you I'm sure you're a very nice person, but almost everyone on here agrees with the sign not being racist and non-offensive - as do the Police.

A few people think he should take it down.

When you ask the audience, the majority vote is very rarely the wrong answer. Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.[/p][/quote]Nothing against you I'm sure you're a very nice person, but almost everyone on here agrees with the sign not being racist and non-offensive - as do the Police. A few people think he should take it down. When you ask the audience, the majority vote is very rarely the wrong answer. Just saying. camerajuan

11:57am Sun 22 Dec 13

SOULJACKER says...

Lazy wrote:
OH AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE ENGLISH FLAG OR THIS SIGN THEN ..... LEAVE THIS COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU EVERY BENEFIT GOING AND GO BACK HOME .... SIMPLES !!
They want the benefits then Pledge allegiance to the flag.
[quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: OH AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE ENGLISH FLAG OR THIS SIGN THEN ..... LEAVE THIS COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU EVERY BENEFIT GOING AND GO BACK HOME .... SIMPLES !![/p][/quote]They want the benefits then Pledge allegiance to the flag. SOULJACKER

11:58am Sun 22 Dec 13

SOULJACKER says...

mickey01 wrote:
thesouth wrote:
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
theres always one !
And it's usually the same person :)
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?[/p][/quote]theres always one ![/p][/quote]And it's usually the same person :) SOULJACKER

12:59pm Sun 22 Dec 13

The Mad Dog says...

Hhmmm, not many brain cells about today, must be all out for the day.
Hhmmm, not many brain cells about today, must be all out for the day. The Mad Dog

1:08pm Sun 22 Dec 13

southy says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Lazy wrote:
I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!!

THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!!

THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :(
Here here, I have been saying it for years 'PATRIOTISM' there is nothing wrong with loving your country but at the moment there is very little to love.
I agree with you, we should all be flying the Union flag or George cross.
FREE SPEECH IS NO CRIME!
But true English would and do not see the Union or the George Cross flags have any thing to do with the true English, its only those with French/ Norman background that do see it.

Like all Great Empires none was built on a single nationality, but a multi national army
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!! THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :([/p][/quote]Here here, I have been saying it for years 'PATRIOTISM' there is nothing wrong with loving your country but at the moment there is very little to love. I agree with you, we should all be flying the Union flag or George cross. FREE SPEECH IS NO CRIME![/p][/quote]But true English would and do not see the Union or the George Cross flags have any thing to do with the true English, its only those with French/ Norman background that do see it. Like all Great Empires none was built on a single nationality, but a multi national army southy

1:14pm Sun 22 Dec 13

mike coll says...

I think this is so funny a UKIP member not seeing the bigger picture (he drives a taxi for a living so I suppose he reads The Sun)
There is a Mercedes in his drive, not a landrover, not a metro cab, not an MG or a Rover, TVR, Caterham, etc but a Mercedes. I am so pleased he is doing his bit to help the German economy,
If he wants his country back then he should begin by helping his country, why ho why does he mention 11th November sunday on one hand then he ensures the nation millions of Britons dies fighting are the most wealthy in Europe. let the trolls (sun readers) begin.
I think this is so funny a UKIP member not seeing the bigger picture (he drives a taxi for a living so I suppose he reads The Sun) There is a Mercedes in his drive, not a landrover, not a metro cab, not an MG or a Rover, TVR, Caterham, etc but a Mercedes. I am so pleased he is doing his bit to help the German economy, If he wants his country back then he should begin by helping his country, why ho why does he mention 11th November sunday on one hand then he ensures the nation millions of Britons dies fighting are the most wealthy in Europe. let the trolls (sun readers) begin. mike coll

1:24pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Home Rule for England says...

freefinker wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
Presumably you would also support the view that British immigrants to Spain who open pubs fish and chip shops and full English breakfast cafés ADD to the culture and diversity of Spain?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.[/p][/quote]Presumably you would also support the view that British immigrants to Spain who open pubs fish and chip shops and full English breakfast cafés ADD to the culture and diversity of Spain? Home Rule for England

2:00pm Sun 22 Dec 13

maiya0405 says...

I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance. maiya0405

2:05pm Sun 22 Dec 13

jen1 says...

maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people
[quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people jen1

2:22pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else.
You use the word "bigoted" which tells all that you're a socialist. It's their word. You choose to take take offence because you believe in the rigid dogma of socialism. Most people don't. Your party quietly let millions slip into our country. That was not in their Manifesto but they felt obliged to do it because of the socialist dogma. I think that is vile and dishonest, as do most people. To take offence at one man protesting is, well how about another of your words-prejudiced.
[quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else. You use the word "bigoted" which tells all that you're a socialist. It's their word. You choose to take take offence because you believe in the rigid dogma of socialism. Most people don't. Your party quietly let millions slip into our country. That was not in their Manifesto but they felt obliged to do it because of the socialist dogma. I think that is vile and dishonest, as do most people. To take offence at one man protesting is, well how about another of your words-prejudiced. Dai Rear

2:56pm Sun 22 Dec 13

southy says...

jen1 wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people
He speaks for the Minority and never for the Majority
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people[/p][/quote]He speaks for the Minority and never for the Majority southy

2:56pm Sun 22 Dec 13

On the inside says...

Lazy wrote:
I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!!

THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!!

THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :(
P*ss off somewhere else then. I hate people who hate my country.
[quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: I SAY LEAVE THE SIGN UP 365 DAYS A YEAR !!! THINK ABOUT THIS ... IN AMERICA NEARLY EVERY HOME HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG FLYING BUT IF WE DARE FLY THE ENGLISH FLAG HERE WE GET IN TROUBLE !!! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS :([/p][/quote]P*ss off somewhere else then. I hate people who hate my country. On the inside

3:00pm Sun 22 Dec 13

southy says...

Northamboy wrote:
I can't see a problem with the sign myself.
The sign could have 2 meanings, either its a pig whistling racist poster or it means win our government back from the professionals politicians
[quote][p][bold]Northamboy[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem with the sign myself.[/p][/quote]The sign could have 2 meanings, either its a pig whistling racist poster or it means win our government back from the professionals politicians southy

3:12pm Sun 22 Dec 13

mickey01 says...

i remeber enoch powell and his speach and all the do gooders daming him for it . but who would say that he did not have this country interests at heart and that he could see what was coming .
the only difference is that he saw the enemy coming from a different continent
then that which it is coming from . but still the rivers of blood may one day be flowing and that he will one day be seen as a man of the peolple unlike the lilly livered lot we have today
i remeber enoch powell and his speach and all the do gooders daming him for it . but who would say that he did not have this country interests at heart and that he could see what was coming . the only difference is that he saw the enemy coming from a different continent then that which it is coming from . but still the rivers of blood may one day be flowing and that he will one day be seen as a man of the peolple unlike the lilly livered lot we have today mickey01

3:26pm Sun 22 Dec 13

thesouth says...

jen1 wrote:
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless.
The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with[/p][/quote]Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless. The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really. thesouth

3:27pm Sun 22 Dec 13

thesouth says...

The photo with this article just oozes ignorant, sad tw*t. Why would you want to back anything he says?!?!
The photo with this article just oozes ignorant, sad tw*t. Why would you want to back anything he says?!?! thesouth

3:31pm Sun 22 Dec 13

thesouth says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
thesouth wrote:
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
Hahahahaha, I bet you don't even live in an area that is affected by the problem!
I live and work in a diverse community that's why I'm not ignorant
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?[/p][/quote]Hahahahaha, I bet you don't even live in an area that is affected by the problem![/p][/quote]I live and work in a diverse community that's why I'm not ignorant thesouth

3:50pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Reginald Miller says...

What about coming over to Gosport and standing for UKIP in the next general election? We could do with somebody like you!
What about coming over to Gosport and standing for UKIP in the next general election? We could do with somebody like you! Reginald Miller

3:58pm Sun 22 Dec 13

jen1 says...

thesouth wrote:
jen1 wrote:
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless.
The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.
I might well be Indian, African or anything else for all you know. but I'm certainly not weak and spineless or stupid. You immediately assume that I'm against all immigrants and all non white races and you show up your bigoted ignorance. No sane person wants to reverse all immigration or is against other races but we do need to go back and fix and manage the problem sensibly. I will repeat this once again because people like you refuse to accept it. IT IS THE RAMPANT, UNRESTRICTED IMMIGRATION TO THIS COUNTRY THAT WE ARE AGAINST. Lose the "hard working immigrant, lazy Brit" argument too. It's been proved false time and time again.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with[/p][/quote]Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless. The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.[/p][/quote]I might well be Indian, African or anything else for all you know. but I'm certainly not weak and spineless or stupid. You immediately assume that I'm against all immigrants and all non white races and you show up your bigoted ignorance. No sane person wants to reverse all immigration or is against other races but we do need to go back and fix and manage the problem sensibly. I will repeat this once again because people like you refuse to accept it. IT IS THE RAMPANT, UNRESTRICTED IMMIGRATION TO THIS COUNTRY THAT WE ARE AGAINST. Lose the "hard working immigrant, lazy Brit" argument too. It's been proved false time and time again. jen1

4:14pm Sun 22 Dec 13

warrens 76 says...

Good man.
Good man. warrens 76

4:21pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Redhaired22 says...

thesouth wrote:
jen1 wrote:
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless.
The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.
Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots.....

The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with[/p][/quote]Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless. The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots..... The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P Redhaired22

4:26pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
jen1 wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people
He speaks for the Minority and never for the Majority
Speaking for the minority is a quantum leap greater than the number you will ever be asked to speak for.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people[/p][/quote]He speaks for the Minority and never for the Majority[/p][/quote]Speaking for the minority is a quantum leap greater than the number you will ever be asked to speak for. Torchie1

4:32pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Torchie1 says...

Redhaired22 wrote:
thesouth wrote:
jen1 wrote:
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless.
The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.
Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots.....

The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P
I think the reality is that the message has been put across in a clever way that has prevented people like you using the law to support your personal prejudices, and judging by your reply it has got right under your skin.
[quote][p][bold]Redhaired22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with[/p][/quote]Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless. The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots..... The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P[/p][/quote]I think the reality is that the message has been put across in a clever way that has prevented people like you using the law to support your personal prejudices, and judging by your reply it has got right under your skin. Torchie1

4:34pm Sun 22 Dec 13

THEKILLER says...

Redhaired22 wrote:
thesouth wrote:
jen1 wrote:
I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with
Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless.
The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.
Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots.....

The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P
Who owns our water companies, banks, electric/gas companies, etc.??? The French, Germans, Spanish, Chinese, Yanks everyone but us, so is it racist to say we want our country back
[quote][p][bold]Redhaired22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: I agree with him 100%. I hope the sign stays put and I might find one for myself. As for the idiotic comment from the poster calling themselves thesouth. No, the sign is not racist, it's no more racist than a sign saying "Beware of the Dog." Do you even know what racism means? It certainly is not racist to want to prevent your country being over run by economic migrants, criminals and general riff raff that we cannot afford and cannot cope with[/p][/quote]Let's get rid of most of the Brits then as that's what you just described. I'm young and British and not proud of it.... Our country is moral-less and likes to blame everyone else for its sad state. Hard working does not merely mean having a job it means having a Job and working hard at it, something many Brits don't do. If you really feel the way you feel, tell the man behind the counter next time you get your Indian take away from him. - you won't though as you are weak and spineless. The banner is not overtly racist but it's defiantly shown the true colours of a lot of DE readers. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Well said, However, arguing with 'most' DE column contributors is like fighting a battle of wits with unarmed idiots..... The sign is pathetic, he is clearly a Kn*b and his ignorance speaks for itself.... I think the sign may well fall foul of planning permission but frankly I don't care about this finkwit and his UKIP nonsense! However, It is a land of free speech and the majority of (sensible) people know that UKIP is a thinly disguised party of racists, as has been shown by some of their appalling views in the Media. It's deliberately vague because he hasn't got the bollards to actually say what he means. Let him keep the sign, it will remind people NOT to vote for them! :P[/p][/quote]Who owns our water companies, banks, electric/gas companies, etc.??? The French, Germans, Spanish, Chinese, Yanks everyone but us, so is it racist to say we want our country back THEKILLER

6:47pm Sun 22 Dec 13

dolomiteman says...

mike coll wrote:
I think this is so funny a UKIP member not seeing the bigger picture (he drives a taxi for a living so I suppose he reads The Sun)
There is a Mercedes in his drive, not a landrover, not a metro cab, not an MG or a Rover, TVR, Caterham, etc but a Mercedes. I am so pleased he is doing his bit to help the German economy,
If he wants his country back then he should begin by helping his country, why ho why does he mention 11th November sunday on one hand then he ensures the nation millions of Britons dies fighting are the most wealthy in Europe. let the trolls (sun readers) begin.
Well said Mike.
The sign isn't racist he just doesn't want foreigners in the UK.

Is he the Taxi Driver that started the campaign to get all non UK born drivers to have to take an English test of some sort?
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: I think this is so funny a UKIP member not seeing the bigger picture (he drives a taxi for a living so I suppose he reads The Sun) There is a Mercedes in his drive, not a landrover, not a metro cab, not an MG or a Rover, TVR, Caterham, etc but a Mercedes. I am so pleased he is doing his bit to help the German economy, If he wants his country back then he should begin by helping his country, why ho why does he mention 11th November sunday on one hand then he ensures the nation millions of Britons dies fighting are the most wealthy in Europe. let the trolls (sun readers) begin.[/p][/quote]Well said Mike. The sign isn't racist he just doesn't want foreigners in the UK. Is he the Taxi Driver that started the campaign to get all non UK born drivers to have to take an English test of some sort? dolomiteman

7:12pm Sun 22 Dec 13

maiya0405 says...

jen1 wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people
oh are we a country? Thanks for pointing that out, silly me I thought we were people living on an Island born to people who lived here before us and some of them that didn't,,,they used to be called explorers or conquerers . I grew up in Burnley so I know about immigrants living with people who have decendants that can be traced back a few hundred years . I lived down st mary's in southampton as a student - the thing is if youre nice to people they are nice to you. if you go around being bigoted then thats when problems start.
we've all been moving all over the world since humans began. Its not going to change now , so no its not tough if i don't like his sign, its tough for you that you arent going to be able to put up walls and keep people out, its lucky for me that there are immigrants working late shifts at the NHS for when my daughter needs to visit A&E. Its lucky for me that Asda now stock polish food because I like a lot of that food. Its lucky for the that when i arrived at A&E with my daughter i smiled at the polish man and his daughter waiting for treatment because his daughter played with mine and took her mind off her sores. Its unfortunate that people try and divide us when we can all get on quite happily without those bigoted signs and people moaning . live and let live and there for the grace of god go i.
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]We are a country, not a refuge for the poor of the world. Moving them all here will not help anyone. I fully support any country that looks after the interests of it's own people first and foremost and would never expect to go anywhere else and expect the people of that country to provide for me. Three cheers for the UKIP guy, I don't begrudge him his nice big house and car, after all he probably worked hard for them. If you object to the sign, then tough, understand that he speaks for the majority of sane British people[/p][/quote]oh are we a country? Thanks for pointing that out, silly me I thought we were people living on an Island born to people who lived here before us and some of them that didn't,,,they used to be called explorers or conquerers . I grew up in Burnley so I know about immigrants living with people who have decendants that can be traced back a few hundred years . I lived down st mary's in southampton as a student - the thing is if youre nice to people they are nice to you. if you go around being bigoted then thats when problems start. we've all been moving all over the world since humans began. Its not going to change now , so no its not tough if i don't like his sign, its tough for you that you arent going to be able to put up walls and keep people out, its lucky for me that there are immigrants working late shifts at the NHS for when my daughter needs to visit A&E. Its lucky for me that Asda now stock polish food because I like a lot of that food. Its lucky for the that when i arrived at A&E with my daughter i smiled at the polish man and his daughter waiting for treatment because his daughter played with mine and took her mind off her sores. Its unfortunate that people try and divide us when we can all get on quite happily without those bigoted signs and people moaning . live and let live and there for the grace of god go i. maiya0405

7:30pm Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

Home Rule for England wrote:
freefinker wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
Presumably you would also support the view that British immigrants to Spain who open pubs fish and chip shops and full English breakfast cafés ADD to the culture and diversity of Spain?
Yep, I would support that view.
[quote][p][bold]Home Rule for England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.[/p][/quote]Presumably you would also support the view that British immigrants to Spain who open pubs fish and chip shops and full English breakfast cafés ADD to the culture and diversity of Spain?[/p][/quote]Yep, I would support that view. freefinker

7:39pm Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
freefinker wrote:
.. what on earth does he mean?
Our country is still here.
No one has taken it away.
He still lives in it.
Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
.. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great.

From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.
Nothing against you I'm sure you're a very nice person, but almost everyone on here agrees with the sign not being racist and non-offensive - as do the Police.

A few people think he should take it down.

When you ask the audience, the majority vote is very rarely the wrong answer. Just saying.
I didn't say it's racist, did I?
I said the man is a fool, and he is.
Majority?
Of whom?
What section of society are you referring to?
Is that majority you refer to actually just a minority of us all?
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: .. what on earth does he mean? Our country is still here. No one has taken it away. He still lives in it. Seems to me it's a mental problem of his own making.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point![/p][/quote].. no, not at all. It's the 'bongo bongo' UKIP nutters who refuse to see the truth. This country is a nation of immigrants; always was and always will be. And, that's what makes it great. From the Beaker People, Celts, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Germans, Afro-Caribbeans, South Indians and now East Europeans - they all ADD to the culture and diversity of this great place to live. And long may it continue. What this country doesn't need is myopic Little Englanders like this fool.[/p][/quote]Nothing against you I'm sure you're a very nice person, but almost everyone on here agrees with the sign not being racist and non-offensive - as do the Police. A few people think he should take it down. When you ask the audience, the majority vote is very rarely the wrong answer. Just saying.[/p][/quote]I didn't say it's racist, did I? I said the man is a fool, and he is. Majority? Of whom? What section of society are you referring to? Is that majority you refer to actually just a minority of us all? freefinker

7:52pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

IF I should die, think only this of me;
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, 5
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
IF I should die, think only this of me; That there's some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England. There shall be In that rich earth a richer dust concealed; A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, 5 Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam, A body of England's breathing English air, Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home. And think, this heart, all evil shed away, A pulse in the eternal mind, no less Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given; Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day; And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness, In hearts at peace, under an English heaven. Dai Rear

7:59pm Sun 22 Dec 13

freefinker says...

Dai Rear wrote:
IF I should die, think only this of me;
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, 5
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
Oh, get the violins out!!
Sentimental crap-trap.
ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ,
ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ,
ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ,
ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ,
ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: IF I should die, think only this of me; That there's some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England. There shall be In that rich earth a richer dust concealed; A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, 5 Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam, A body of England's breathing English air, Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home. And think, this heart, all evil shed away, A pulse in the eternal mind, no less Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given; Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day; And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness, In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.[/p][/quote]Oh, get the violins out!! Sentimental crap-trap. ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ. freefinker

8:05pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Inform Al says...

thesouth wrote:
A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person."
Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article
I think your post is racist, against the indigenous population. Do you want me to waste valuable police time by making a complaint? A couple of years ago when a dedicated teacher was imprisoned in Tunisia because she allowed her pupils to name an innocent teddy bear Mohammed, I put a cuddly toy dog in my front garden with the same name under it. a local Puritanically Corrupt idiot complained to the police and to save them bother I altered the name to Still, still Mohammed. Only a complete muppet would think the sign in the article is racist and it is something that at least 60% of us agree with.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: A racial incident in law is ''any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person." Hants police may need to re think their comments in this article[/p][/quote]I think your post is racist, against the indigenous population. Do you want me to waste valuable police time by making a complaint? A couple of years ago when a dedicated teacher was imprisoned in Tunisia because she allowed her pupils to name an innocent teddy bear Mohammed, I put a cuddly toy dog in my front garden with the same name under it. a local Puritanically Corrupt idiot complained to the police and to save them bother I altered the name to Still, still Mohammed. Only a complete muppet would think the sign in the article is racist and it is something that at least 60% of us agree with. Inform Al

8:27pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else.
You use the word "bigoted" which tells all that you're a socialist. It's their word. You choose to take take offence because you believe in the rigid dogma of socialism. Most people don't. Your party quietly let millions slip into our country. That was not in their Manifesto but they felt obliged to do it because of the socialist dogma. I think that is vile and dishonest, as do most people. To take offence at one man protesting is, well how about another of your words-prejudiced.
I consider myself socialist, but do not support the current over immigration. This socialist is a firm believer in UKIP and all they stand for (mainly us ) please do not tar all of us with the same brush. You may like to read the UKIP local government manifesto, they are the only party that tells their candidates that if elected they are to represent their constituents, not the party.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else. You use the word "bigoted" which tells all that you're a socialist. It's their word. You choose to take take offence because you believe in the rigid dogma of socialism. Most people don't. Your party quietly let millions slip into our country. That was not in their Manifesto but they felt obliged to do it because of the socialist dogma. I think that is vile and dishonest, as do most people. To take offence at one man protesting is, well how about another of your words-prejudiced.[/p][/quote]I consider myself socialist, but do not support the current over immigration. This socialist is a firm believer in UKIP and all they stand for (mainly us ) please do not tar all of us with the same brush. You may like to read the UKIP local government manifesto, they are the only party that tells their candidates that if elected they are to represent their constituents, not the party. Inform Al

8:28pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
Northamboy wrote:
I can't see a problem with the sign myself.
The sign could have 2 meanings, either its a pig whistling racist poster or it means win our government back from the professionals politicians
Rubbish
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northamboy[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem with the sign myself.[/p][/quote]The sign could have 2 meanings, either its a pig whistling racist poster or it means win our government back from the professionals politicians[/p][/quote]Rubbish Inform Al

9:36pm Sun 22 Dec 13

WarwickNights says...

We're not allowed to have pollywogs anymore and its's racist to call negroes "coloured" would you believe. I'm not allowed to whistle at ladies in mini skirts anymore either. Its political correctness gone mad
We're not allowed to have pollywogs anymore and its's racist to call negroes "coloured" would you believe. I'm not allowed to whistle at ladies in mini skirts anymore either. Its political correctness gone mad WarwickNights

10:01pm Sun 22 Dec 13

maiya0405 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else.
You use the word "bigotedi'm not a socialist?!! I'm a person who doesnt like his sign - simple , because he saying ' we want our country back' . Arrogance just like your post. Read the news, if immigrants left, the country would grind to a halt. UKIP want scape goats to blame for any failings in this country. My party you say, how do you know what 'my party' is??! Same as this man with his sign thinking you know what everyone else is and wants.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else. You use the word "bigotedi'm not a socialist?!! I'm a person who doesnt like his sign - simple , because he saying ' we want our country back' . Arrogance just like your post. Read the news, if immigrants left, the country would grind to a halt. UKIP want scape goats to blame for any failings in this country. My party you say, how do you know what 'my party' is??! Same as this man with his sign thinking you know what everyone else is and wants. maiya0405

10:12pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Burt HInkler says...

Good for him and i cannot wait to vote UKIP In next years elections. We have seen today from the lib dems that they endorse cheap foreign labour that is causing havoc in our country.

We didnt need all these eastern europeans in 2004 and we dont need them now ! Anyone believing the rubbish spouted by Cable and Clegg would think this country didnt function and needed labours mass immigration disaster that we never voted for.
Good for him and i cannot wait to vote UKIP In next years elections. We have seen today from the lib dems that they endorse cheap foreign labour that is causing havoc in our country. We didnt need all these eastern europeans in 2004 and we dont need them now ! Anyone believing the rubbish spouted by Cable and Clegg would think this country didnt function and needed labours mass immigration disaster that we never voted for. Burt HInkler

10:13pm Sun 22 Dec 13

TheRiseofUKIP says...

UKIP Eastleigh Branch stands firmly behind Tim
and will be sending him a bottle of something to Celebrate Christmas.
A Very Merry Christmas to the People of Eastleigh.
Happy New Year!
UKIP Eastleigh Branch stands firmly behind Tim and will be sending him a bottle of something to Celebrate Christmas. A Very Merry Christmas to the People of Eastleigh. Happy New Year! TheRiseofUKIP

7:57am Mon 23 Dec 13

Huffter says...

I wouldn't vote for a politician who thought that Father Christmas was the answer to the country's problems.
I wouldn't vote for a politician who thought that Father Christmas was the answer to the country's problems. Huffter

8:36am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

maiya0405 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else.
You use the word "bigotedi'm not a socialist?!! I'm a person who doesnt like his sign - simple , because he saying ' we want our country back' . Arrogance just like your post. Read the news, if immigrants left, the country would grind to a halt. UKIP want scape goats to blame for any failings in this country. My party you say, how do you know what 'my party' is??! Same as this man with his sign thinking you know what everyone else is and wants.If you're not a socialist, why use one of their words? "Bigoted" pretty much has Brown's copyright on it-anyone who dares to disagree with vile socialist dogma. And don't split hairs, if you vote Social Democrat or whatever Clegg's lot is supposed to be you're a socialist. Like freefinker you think abuse is the only response. That's socialism, longing for the days when your opponents could be sent to gas chamber or gulag or shot like the North Korean uncle; abuse is the best you can do on the internet. If immigrants left the slack would have to be taken up by the lardass chavs on welfare. They wouldn't be anywhere near as good as the immigrants but it would mean that the public sector part of our education system would have to grow up. That's what "getting our country back" also means. UKIP isn't looking for "scape goats" or indeed scapegoats, it just stands for getting us out of a toxic autocracy wished upon us by all the usual college kid buffoons like the schoolboys leading the 3 "major" parties. What "this man and his sign" is doing is reflecting the vast dissatisfaction of the electorate with the mess we're in from which none of the "major" parties offers an exit.
[quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]No. Because if you'd been born somewhere else you would be someone else. You use the word "bigotedi'm not a socialist?!! I'm a person who doesnt like his sign - simple , because he saying ' we want our country back' . Arrogance just like your post. Read the news, if immigrants left, the country would grind to a halt. UKIP want scape goats to blame for any failings in this country. My party you say, how do you know what 'my party' is??! Same as this man with his sign thinking you know what everyone else is and wants.[/p][/quote]If you're not a socialist, why use one of their words? "Bigoted" pretty much has Brown's copyright on it-anyone who dares to disagree with vile socialist dogma. And don't split hairs, if you vote Social Democrat or whatever Clegg's lot is supposed to be you're a socialist. Like freefinker you think abuse is the only response. That's socialism, longing for the days when your opponents could be sent to gas chamber or gulag or shot like the North Korean uncle; abuse is the best you can do on the internet. If immigrants left the slack would have to be taken up by the lardass chavs on welfare. They wouldn't be anywhere near as good as the immigrants but it would mean that the public sector part of our education system would have to grow up. That's what "getting our country back" also means. UKIP isn't looking for "scape goats" or indeed scapegoats, it just stands for getting us out of a toxic autocracy wished upon us by all the usual college kid buffoons like the schoolboys leading the 3 "major" parties. What "this man and his sign" is doing is reflecting the vast dissatisfaction of the electorate with the mess we're in from which none of the "major" parties offers an exit. Dai Rear

8:45am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950?
Do you even know OF anyone who does?
maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950? Do you even know OF anyone who does? Dai Rear

8:50am Mon 23 Dec 13

freefinker says...

Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950?
Do you even know OF anyone who does?
In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950? Do you even know OF anyone who does?[/p][/quote]In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes freefinker

8:57am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

" people who have decendants that can be traced back a few hundred years ."

I love that one. Not quite sure what you were a student of; not English obviously, but substituting "descendants" it really is worthy of the late David Coleman.
Well done! Made my Christmas.
" people who have decendants that can be traced back a few hundred years ." I love that one. Not quite sure what you were a student of; not English obviously, but substituting "descendants" it really is worthy of the late David Coleman. Well done! Made my Christmas. Dai Rear

9:04am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

freefinker wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950?
Do you even know OF anyone who does?
In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes
Do they let you have access to the 'net in mental health institutions? I guess you're a voluntary patient.
Socialist-type abuse I know, but at least I attempt to be funny, and humour isn't their forte.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950? Do you even know OF anyone who does?[/p][/quote]In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes[/p][/quote]Do they let you have access to the 'net in mental health institutions? I guess you're a voluntary patient. Socialist-type abuse I know, but at least I attempt to be funny, and humour isn't their forte. Dai Rear

9:08am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

freefinker wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950?
Do you even know OF anyone who does?
In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes
Jumped in too quickly there first time.
OH NO YOU DON'T!
HE'S BEHIND YOU!
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950? Do you even know OF anyone who does?[/p][/quote]In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes[/p][/quote]Jumped in too quickly there first time. OH NO YOU DON'T! HE'S BEHIND YOU! Dai Rear

9:28am Mon 23 Dec 13

freefinker says...

Dai Rear wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950?
Do you even know OF anyone who does?
In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes
Do they let you have access to the 'net in mental health institutions? I guess you're a voluntary patient.
Socialist-type abuse I know, but at least I attempt to be funny, and humour isn't their forte.
You ask the questions.
I answer them; accurately from my prospective.
You don't like the answers.
So, you resort to insults.
Says a lot about you (and your ilk).
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: maiya0405 and freefinker do you think South London is a good place? Do you really, really, think it is better than it was in 1950? Do you even know OF anyone who does?[/p][/quote]In answer to your 3 questions, yes, yes and yes[/p][/quote]Do they let you have access to the 'net in mental health institutions? I guess you're a voluntary patient. Socialist-type abuse I know, but at least I attempt to be funny, and humour isn't their forte.[/p][/quote]You ask the questions. I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers. So, you resort to insults. Says a lot about you (and your ilk). freefinker

10:33am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

"I answer them; accurately from my prospective.
You don't like the answers."
You mean perspective, and no you don't. You are just being silly and I gave a silly answer in response..
"Says a lot about you (and your ilk)."
It says we can swop silliness all day. Next ?
"I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers." You mean perspective, and no you don't. You are just being silly and I gave a silly answer in response.. "Says a lot about you (and your ilk)." It says we can swop silliness all day. Next ? Dai Rear

11:57am Mon 23 Dec 13

maiya0405 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two. maiya0405

12:16pm Mon 23 Dec 13

jen1 says...

maiya0405 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two.It's frightening to think that anyone over 18 is allowed to vote, without first having to pass some kind of basic intelligent test
[quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two.[/p][/quote]It's frightening to think that anyone over 18 is allowed to vote, without first having to pass some kind of basic intelligent test jen1

12:37pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

jen1 wrote:
maiya0405 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two.It's frightening to think that anyone over 18 is allowed to vote, without first having to pass some kind of basic intelligent testYes it is, isn't it? But to help you the word you sought was "predecessor"
If you have digestive problems contemplating what socialists like to get up to then I hope you'll avoid a socialist government, by voting for a nicer party. And yes "bigoted" is used by ordinary people so infrequently that, to all intents and purposes it has become a socialist word; I suggest you don't use it if you do not wish to be perceived as having reactionary views, like Brown.
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "I answer them; accurately from my prospective. You don't like the answers.'use one of their words'? What on earth are you on about - putting me in a group again that have certain words of use. I can use what ever words I like . And as for abuse, your reference to gas chambers and shooting people is the most disgusting reference on here. No English wasn't what I studied at college but the english language is changing all the time just like this country we all live in - move with the times, embrace change. Hug a tree and go for a walk and calm down. Oops did I give away my political views there - what group are you putting me in now Green Party maybe? Ok i'll be that for an hour or two.[/p][/quote]It's frightening to think that anyone over 18 is allowed to vote, without first having to pass some kind of basic intelligent test[/p][/quote]Yes it is, isn't it? But to help you the word you sought was "predecessor" If you have digestive problems contemplating what socialists like to get up to then I hope you'll avoid a socialist government, by voting for a nicer party. And yes "bigoted" is used by ordinary people so infrequently that, to all intents and purposes it has become a socialist word; I suggest you don't use it if you do not wish to be perceived as having reactionary views, like Brown. Dai Rear

2:22pm Mon 23 Dec 13

bemused26 says...

No one is asking for all immigrants to leave. No one is saying that we do not benefit from having a diverse society. No one here is saying we do not like people from other races, cultures, nations etc... What I can garner is that people are saying we cannot keep stuffing more and more people onto our little island. Surely it's about numbers and not race or ethnicity?
No one is asking for all immigrants to leave. No one is saying that we do not benefit from having a diverse society. No one here is saying we do not like people from other races, cultures, nations etc... What I can garner is that people are saying we cannot keep stuffing more and more people onto our little island. Surely it's about numbers and not race or ethnicity? bemused26

3:56pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Inform Al says...

To all those who think the sign is aimed at immigrants, its not. To want our country back is merely a comment about the loss of our sovereignty which has been surrendered to the money grabbing EU.
To all those who think the sign is aimed at immigrants, its not. To want our country back is merely a comment about the loss of our sovereignty which has been surrendered to the money grabbing EU. Inform Al

4:16pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

"Sentimental crap-trap"
There we are then freefinker. that's our greatest war poets.
Do you really think that?
How sad..
"Sentimental crap-trap" There we are then freefinker. that's our greatest war poets. Do you really think that? How sad.. Dai Rear

1:43pm Sat 28 Dec 13

st1halo says...

thesouth wrote:
I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?
Now that is what you call a bigoted post.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: I welcome other cultures, they are generally more humble, harder working, more interesting than your average pot belly lazy Brit. I assume the people with the above comments only ever eat British influenced food, don't go abroad and only listen to traditional English music?[/p][/quote]Now that is what you call a bigoted post. st1halo

2:14pm Sat 28 Dec 13

st1halo says...

maiya0405 wrote:
I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.
The problem isn't the sign but your own interpretation of it. I take it to mean he wants us out of the European Union and to recover powers lost as this is the UKIP mantra. One I wholeheartedly agree with. If indeed he is referring to mass immigration, then 'bigoted' would be too harsh a word to use, partisan maybe but certainly not racist.
Don't agree or like your last comment, we have a long history of welcoming people to our shores from all across the globe, it's the sheer volume of immigration that makes a lot of people think that our tolerance has been taken advantage of. Indignation, not arrogance.
[quote][p][bold]maiya0405[/bold] wrote: I drive home past this sign, its on a nice road and he lives in a nice big house, i find this sign offensive because Its bigoted. Lets hope he or anyone else who moan about immigrants never need to move to another country to make a better life for their families. You were born here, so what you could have easily have been born somewhere else, luck of the draw - total arrogance.[/p][/quote]The problem isn't the sign but your own interpretation of it. I take it to mean he wants us out of the European Union and to recover powers lost as this is the UKIP mantra. One I wholeheartedly agree with. If indeed he is referring to mass immigration, then 'bigoted' would be too harsh a word to use, partisan maybe but certainly not racist. Don't agree or like your last comment, we have a long history of welcoming people to our shores from all across the globe, it's the sheer volume of immigration that makes a lot of people think that our tolerance has been taken advantage of. Indignation, not arrogance. st1halo

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