Residents vow to "fight to the end" after McDonalds submit plans for The Bittern pub

Daily Echo: Pub campaigners fight McDonalds plan Pub campaigners fight McDonalds plan

“WE’LL fight to the bitter end.”

That is the message from |campaigners as they make a last stand in their bid to save their beloved pub from the bulldozers.

Fast food giant McDonald’s has submitted a planning application to knock down The Bittern in Southampton and replace it with a 24-hour takeaway.

As revealed by the Daily Echo, pub owners Punch Taverns exchanged contracts with McDonald’s over the sale of the site earlier this year – despite campaigners offering to buy it at market value.

Backed by Itchen MP John Denham, they have battled against the proposals and plan to continue their fight through the planning process.

It is thought the building was originally built as a post office during the First World War, and was then converted to a pub during the 1930s.

McDonald’s plans for the site in Thornhill Park Road are for a 659 sq m, two-storey restaurant with a drive through and 38 car parking spaces. The company says the restaurant would operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and create 65 jobs.

The plans are likely to go before Southampton City Council’s planning panel in January or February.

And although they will be determined on planning matters, the campaigners believe they have sufficient ammunition to convince the panel to throw the plans out.

The restaurant’s operating hours and the fact that the pub was designated Southampton’s first-ever community asset earlier this year are likely to be included in arguments to save it.

Pub manager and campaigner Glen McInnes said: “We’re not loving it – we know it will be a struggle but we’re going to fight this to the end.

“Traffic on Thornhill Park Road is already a nightmare and that is only going to get worse if these plans are approved.

“It’s the city’s first community asset, yet McDonald’s and Punch Taverns don’t care about that.”

A spokesman for McDonald’s said the plan would bring new jobs and training, and added: |“I can confirm that we have a contract in place with Punch Taverns which will see us receive ownership of the site if our application is successful.”

A spokesman for Punch said: “We look to consider all offers submitted, and after we were approached with a significantly high offer the commercial decision was made to progress and exchange contracts.”

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7:26am Mon 23 Dec 13

AndyAndrews says...

I prefer a McD's drive-in to a failed pub any day! Bring it on!
I prefer a McD's drive-in to a failed pub any day! Bring it on! AndyAndrews

7:56am Mon 23 Dec 13

sburman says...

Sounds like the `Bitter` will end soon.

Rightly or wrongly smoking was banned in Pubs. This started the decline of the traditional pub.
Sounds like the `Bitter` will end soon. Rightly or wrongly smoking was banned in Pubs. This started the decline of the traditional pub. sburman

8:36am Mon 23 Dec 13

J.P.M... says...

Move along
Move along J.P.M...

8:47am Mon 23 Dec 13

issacchunt says...

Sadly it's over. Tesco wanted it but knew it was already sold to Mc'd. The councillors will along with your MP pay lip service to protect there standing come vote time but really they are negotiating concessions to help with the road outside.

red lion totton, hampton swaything and now the bittern. All 3 sides of the city covered and Mc'd always get what they want.prepare for macdonalds litter everywhere.

I still remember when this huge corporation just an a farm, ee eye ee eye u!
Sadly it's over. Tesco wanted it but knew it was already sold to Mc'd. The councillors will along with your MP pay lip service to protect there standing come vote time but really they are negotiating concessions to help with the road outside. red lion totton, hampton swaything and now the bittern. All 3 sides of the city covered and Mc'd always get what they want.prepare for macdonalds litter everywhere. I still remember when this huge corporation just an a farm, ee eye ee eye u! issacchunt

9:01am Mon 23 Dec 13

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

Should bring some much needed culture to the reservation residents.
Should bring some much needed culture to the reservation residents. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

9:03am Mon 23 Dec 13

S Pance says...

Never drink in a pub with a flat roof.

I think Issac might have a point. McD are trying to ensure that every entrance/exit road to Southampton is covered by a McD restaurant.

What roads currently don't have plans for a McD? I'd bet a shiny shilling that they'll have one within the next 5 years or so.
Never drink in a pub with a flat roof. I think Issac might have a point. McD are trying to ensure that every entrance/exit road to Southampton is covered by a McD restaurant. What roads currently don't have plans for a McD? I'd bet a shiny shilling that they'll have one within the next 5 years or so. S Pance

9:52am Mon 23 Dec 13

Saintsincethe60s says...

Got to have somewhere for the chavs to eat, so more rubbish thrown everywhere.

puzzles me why anyone wants to eat that carp at all let alone 24 hours a day
Got to have somewhere for the chavs to eat, so more rubbish thrown everywhere. puzzles me why anyone wants to eat that carp at all let alone 24 hours a day Saintsincethe60s

10:05am Mon 23 Dec 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

still got the Hinkler, go there and later enjoy a burger, win win
still got the Hinkler, go there and later enjoy a burger, win win likewatchingbrazil

10:24am Mon 23 Dec 13

Hdg end mo says...

With pubs closing down at a alarming rate surely a restaurant would be a better option to the community rather than a developer turning it into flats.
More jobs for the local people, you may have extra volume of traffic however the McDonald's in burgess road seams to work fine on a busy road as do know doubt a lot more do
With pubs closing down at a alarming rate surely a restaurant would be a better option to the community rather than a developer turning it into flats. More jobs for the local people, you may have extra volume of traffic however the McDonald's in burgess road seams to work fine on a busy road as do know doubt a lot more do Hdg end mo

11:14am Mon 23 Dec 13

Mary80 says...

I get driven down that road at least twice a day and at the best of times its a total nightmare. The traffic will only get worse as its a small 2 lane road not built for the amount of cars and stuff that use it all the time. Are they gonna get rid of that stupid bus stop that makes congestion worse if the drive thru is built?
I get driven down that road at least twice a day and at the best of times its a total nightmare. The traffic will only get worse as its a small 2 lane road not built for the amount of cars and stuff that use it all the time. Are they gonna get rid of that stupid bus stop that makes congestion worse if the drive thru is built? Mary80

11:32am Mon 23 Dec 13

Dasal says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
still got the Hinkler, go there and later enjoy a burger, win win
Easily pleased, then................
.................
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: still got the Hinkler, go there and later enjoy a burger, win win[/p][/quote]Easily pleased, then................ ................. Dasal

2:57pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Jesus_02 says...

Hdg end mo wrote:
With pubs closing down at a alarming rate surely a restaurant would be a better option to the community rather than a developer turning it into flats.
More jobs for the local people, you may have extra volume of traffic however the McDonald's in burgess road seams to work fine on a busy road as do know doubt a lot more do
A restaurant might be a better idea - But I wouldnt class a McDonalds as a restaurant.

The idea solution is to get Element Arts to take over (stop them winging about Wool House)
[quote][p][bold]Hdg end mo[/bold] wrote: With pubs closing down at a alarming rate surely a restaurant would be a better option to the community rather than a developer turning it into flats. More jobs for the local people, you may have extra volume of traffic however the McDonald's in burgess road seams to work fine on a busy road as do know doubt a lot more do[/p][/quote]A restaurant might be a better idea - But I wouldnt class a McDonalds as a restaurant. The idea solution is to get Element Arts to take over (stop them winging about Wool House) Jesus_02

3:22pm Mon 23 Dec 13

lowe esteem says...

sburman wrote:
Sounds like the `Bitter` will end soon.

Rightly or wrongly smoking was banned in Pubs. This started the decline of the traditional pub.
no it didn't.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the `Bitter` will end soon. Rightly or wrongly smoking was banned in Pubs. This started the decline of the traditional pub.[/p][/quote]no it didn't. lowe esteem

5:34pm Mon 23 Dec 13

issacchunt says...

"Lowe esteem" ask your carer to explain to you what has happened to pubs while you've been in a coma.
"Lowe esteem" ask your carer to explain to you what has happened to pubs while you've been in a coma. issacchunt

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