Icy reception for new skating rink idea

Daily Echo: Icy reception for new skating rink idea Icy reception for new skating rink idea

HOPES for a new ice rink in the south have once again been dashed.

The idea of a new skating facility has been discussed in Southampton for the last 25 years with many failed proposals since Top Rank closed its doors.

But when the issue of a possible ice rink in Eastleigh was suggested at a council meeting it was immediately shelved – because leaders think it wouldn’t be viable. Eastleigh Borough Council’s opposition leader Cllr Godfrey Olson, below right, had raised the idea of including an ice rink as part of plans to demolish Fleming Park Leisure Centre, in Eastleigh, in favour of a new £15m leisure facility.

But council leader Cllr Keith House, left, said the difficulty was making such a facility financially viable and that there were no plans for a stand alone rink at the venue.

Cllr House said in recent years the council had had a number of representations from those keen to bring back an ice rink to the area after the Southampton rink closed in 1988.

He told a meeting of the full council that they needed to be conscious that any project was sustainable and financially viable, that there was a limited market for ice and that any rink was likely to “cannibalise” existing facilities at Basingstoke and Gosport.

He pointed to the fact that Southampton had failed for 25 years to bring an ice rink back to the city.

He added: “We’re looking at other options there might be as regards Fleming Park, all be it it won’t be a stand alone ice rink.”

Asked if there was a possibility of a facility elsewhere in the borough, such as the Ageas Bowl, Cllr House told councillors: “The issues are the same wherever you look at them.

“They don’t tend to be profitable – whether it’s at Fleming Park or elsewhere, it’s making it stand up economically.”

He told the Daily Echo a seasonal ice rink at winter in an indoor multi-use hall was one of many plans being weighed up for the Fleming Park redevelopment.

“We want to include an element of ice in the leisure scheme, but it will almost certainly be a seasonal facility and that’s something we’re working on.”

He added: “It’s almost impossible to make ice work.

“It’s highly unlikely that we’ll see a new ice rink provided anywhere in Hampshire because of the issues in making it pay.

“Realistically it’s not likely to happen in Hampshire.”

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12:36pm Mon 23 Dec 13

jazzy54zz says...

Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !!
Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !! jazzy54zz

1:40pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Saint Botley says...

jazzy54zz wrote:
Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !!
Yep, if its not clumsily justified housing on green belt land then frankly it's a no go from the off.
[quote][p][bold]jazzy54zz[/bold] wrote: Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !![/p][/quote]Yep, if its not clumsily justified housing on green belt land then frankly it's a no go from the off. Saint Botley

2:38pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Cyber__Fug says...

jazzy54zz wrote:
Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !!
In the same way that majority of people think about an ice rink !!
[quote][p][bold]jazzy54zz[/bold] wrote: Unless it's vast areas of new housing then Cllr House isn't interested !![/p][/quote]In the same way that majority of people think about an ice rink !! Cyber__Fug

3:05pm Mon 23 Dec 13

03alpe01 says...

He didn't even research this properly. This wouldn't be a stand alone ice rink as there would have been other facilities there. If this was a rink on its own in the middle of nowhere, he might have half a point, but if rinks in leisure centres don't make money then how come Swindon, Guildford and Basingstoke etc all manage to pull it off?
He didn't even research this properly. This wouldn't be a stand alone ice rink as there would have been other facilities there. If this was a rink on its own in the middle of nowhere, he might have half a point, but if rinks in leisure centres don't make money then how come Swindon, Guildford and Basingstoke etc all manage to pull it off? 03alpe01

5:10pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Lazy says...

We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lazy

6:40pm Mon 23 Dec 13

commonsense888 says...

What a load of tosh!

More like there are not enough sweetners in it for the council.......
What a load of tosh! More like there are not enough sweetners in it for the council....... commonsense888

6:46pm Mon 23 Dec 13

cantthinkofone says...

Lazy wrote:
We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen.

It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry.

And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.
[quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen. It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry. And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie. cantthinkofone

6:59pm Mon 23 Dec 13

03alpe01 says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Lazy wrote:
We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen.

It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry.

And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.
just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen. It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry. And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.[/p][/quote]just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are. 03alpe01

7:09pm Mon 23 Dec 13

repcosy says...

If mo roller can succeed so can a ice rink! No question in it!
If mo roller can succeed so can a ice rink! No question in it! repcosy

7:14pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Micle1974 says...

Mo:roller hold club nights with top name Dj's, they have bands etc down there too, so it's not just roller booting that makes their ££££
Mo:roller hold club nights with top name Dj's, they have bands etc down there too, so it's not just roller booting that makes their ££££ Micle1974

7:35pm Mon 23 Dec 13

03alpe01 says...

Micle1974 wrote:
Mo:roller hold club nights with top name Dj's, they have bands etc down there too, so it's not just roller booting that makes their ££££
much like ice rinks have ice dance/figure skating clubs/shows, ice hockey matches, training etc so its not just public skate sessions that makes their ££££
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: Mo:roller hold club nights with top name Dj's, they have bands etc down there too, so it's not just roller booting that makes their ££££[/p][/quote]much like ice rinks have ice dance/figure skating clubs/shows, ice hockey matches, training etc so its not just public skate sessions that makes their ££££ 03alpe01

8:54pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Huffter says...

No good for me - 25 years ago I might have been interested - now I'm too old to skate!
No good for me - 25 years ago I might have been interested - now I'm too old to skate! Huffter

4:39am Tue 24 Dec 13

issacchunt says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Lazy wrote:
We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen.

It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry.

And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.
Others waste money on cricket clubs, 30 million on a folly. I feel any ice-rink could only succeed when attached to other outlets and not all commentators live in Southampton you know.

it'll never happen as land is at a premium and as discussed a few commentators don' t assure attendance.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen. It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry. And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.[/p][/quote]Others waste money on cricket clubs, 30 million on a folly. I feel any ice-rink could only succeed when attached to other outlets and not all commentators live in Southampton you know. it'll never happen as land is at a premium and as discussed a few commentators don' t assure attendance. issacchunt

7:26am Tue 24 Dec 13

jane75 says...

Since having a cinema built in eastleigh I have been more often. I would definitely use the ice rink, it's fun and good exercise for all. My kids loved it when we took them for there 1st time. But don't fancy driving for miles away to get to one. Come on council, forget the crappy hotel at ageas bowl and give us more leisure facilities and get the kids out the house and have some fun!
Since having a cinema built in eastleigh I have been more often. I would definitely use the ice rink, it's fun and good exercise for all. My kids loved it when we took them for there 1st time. But don't fancy driving for miles away to get to one. Come on council, forget the crappy hotel at ageas bowl and give us more leisure facilities and get the kids out the house and have some fun! jane75

9:22am Tue 24 Dec 13

THE BRICK says...

Hmmmm, Ya see, when politicians in the south hear the key words 'ice rink development' they automatically start to recite a scripted response. They are running this response installed after a certain politician in Southampton City Council once told an unsuspecting crowd of victims that they would be rescued by the council after losing the Banister rink in 1978.

That land was allowed to be redeveloped by the Rank Organisation because on the horizon at the time was a plan that not many people knew about, a plan that ABP and REDELCO and the council called the Queens Ice Rink plan, and Rank were going to get the West Quay leisure complex out of it and rid of the Gaumont Theatre too..............The
n ABP pulled out of the deal and all was lost, well apart from Rank, who still got their part of the deal, but the skaters lost their rink, and the city got their theatre, the Mayflower.

Now, to cover the deals done, we never have been able to get an ice rink because of the shame of what happened. The banister ice rink that closed in 1978 was making money, I have the proof of that, I also have the proof of what I have written above, and I am sick to death of politicians claiming that ice rinks won't pay because of the same old words that pour forth from their mouths when they hear 'ice rink development' key words, because that all they do, word association.

Shame on all politicians with no balls and even less pucks!
Hmmmm, Ya see, when politicians in the south hear the key words 'ice rink development' they automatically start to recite a scripted response. They are running this response installed after a certain politician in Southampton City Council once told an unsuspecting crowd of victims that they would be rescued by the council after losing the Banister rink in 1978. That land was allowed to be redeveloped by the Rank Organisation because on the horizon at the time was a plan that not many people knew about, a plan that ABP and REDELCO and the council called the Queens Ice Rink plan, and Rank were going to get the West Quay leisure complex out of it and rid of the Gaumont Theatre too..............The n ABP pulled out of the deal and all was lost, well apart from Rank, who still got their part of the deal, but the skaters lost their rink, and the city got their theatre, the Mayflower. Now, to cover the deals done, we never have been able to get an ice rink because of the shame of what happened. The banister ice rink that closed in 1978 was making money, I have the proof of that, I also have the proof of what I have written above, and I am sick to death of politicians claiming that ice rinks won't pay because of the same old words that pour forth from their mouths when they hear 'ice rink development' key words, because that all they do, word association. Shame on all politicians with no balls and even less pucks! THE BRICK

2:06pm Tue 24 Dec 13

cantthinkofone says...

03alpe01 wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Lazy wrote:
We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen.

It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry.

And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.
just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are.
I don't mind either way tbh. It's not something that arouses strong feelings in sane people... ;)
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen. It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry. And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.[/p][/quote]just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are.[/p][/quote]I don't mind either way tbh. It's not something that arouses strong feelings in sane people... ;) cantthinkofone

2:32pm Wed 25 Dec 13

03alpe01 says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Lazy wrote:
We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen.

It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry.

And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.
just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are.
I don't mind either way tbh. It's not something that arouses strong feelings in sane people... ;)
Well they do say you have to be insane to step out onto the ice and risk getting your teeth knocked out! But I wouldn't have it any other way! Merry Christmas!
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazy[/bold] wrote: We have been waiting 20 years !! they PROMISED us when they shut down the ice rink that a new one would be built !!! 20 **** years and still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good. Southampton residents' (or DE commentators anyway) obsession with ice rinks is just weird tbh. It's like something out of League of Gentlemen. It's a niche activity. It's no more justified than demands for a speedway arena or a school of puppetry. And yeah yeah yeah they closed one ages ago and said they'd replace it. The tories promised they'd not privatise the NHS as well. Politicians lie.[/p][/quote]just out of interest are you in favour of one or not? The old ice rink was turning profit when it closed. The new one was promised, it was a condition when the old one shut that a new one be built. I think that the amount of comments that we still get now about an ice rink some 25 years on still shows the support there is for one and how wrong all these councillors are.[/p][/quote]I don't mind either way tbh. It's not something that arouses strong feelings in sane people... ;)[/p][/quote]Well they do say you have to be insane to step out onto the ice and risk getting your teeth knocked out! But I wouldn't have it any other way! Merry Christmas! 03alpe01

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