Town Depot site hoped to kickstart regeneration in Southampton

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CIVIC bosses in Southampton have put a key waterfront site up for sale.

They hope a housing, leisure and business complex at Chapel Riverside will kick-start widespread redevelopment of the Itchen waterfront.

The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome.

But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities.

Over the coming decades they see the area between St Mary’s Stadium and Ocean’s Village as key to fulfilling their ambitious growth plans for Southampton.

The 8.9-acre site is a key component of their city centre master plan, which is the vision for how they want Southampton to develop over the next 17 years.

Although it was once the site of one of the city’s earliest settlements, Chapel Riverside is now largely empty, although it features temporary car parking for the city port and several Southern Water facilities.

With its riverside location, council chiefs say that any use of the site near the Itchen Bridge must feature maritime employment.

Their vision for the site features maritime employment, housing, bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses.

Any development will also have to include public access to the waterfront, and to preserve views of the river and maritime activities.

And it is hoped that redevelopment at Chapel Riverside will lead to renewed interest from developers in the neighbouring wharf sites.

Southampton City Council leader Simon Letts said: “I am delighted that we are now starting the process to develop the Itchen Riverside.

“Although the project is in its infancy, I am sure we will attract a lot of positive interest and secure a developer committed, like me, to bringing jobs and homes to the city.

“We will ensure that whatever is proposed will include full public access to the waterfront.

“We are seeking to attract a range of high-tech marine activities that compliment and support existing businesses and make best use of the riverside setting.

“These will sit alongside well-designed high-quality homes that have good links to the city centre and south towards the water sports clubs and Ocean Village

Potential developers can find out more by visiting chapelriverside.co.uk.

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7:26am Fri 3 Jan 14

Zexagon says...

Provide views of the river? Flamingos or hippos?
Provide views of the river? Flamingos or hippos? Zexagon

7:41am Fri 3 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

has to be,let me guess ? flats?
has to be,let me guess ? flats? WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

9:28am Fri 3 Jan 14

loosehead says...

so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough?
Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities?
nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it? loosehead

10:15am Fri 3 Jan 14

Micle1974 says...

The St Marys turf doesnt look very nice in the ariel picture at chapelriverside.co.u
k
The St Marys turf doesnt look very nice in the ariel picture at chapelriverside.co.u k Micle1974

11:19am Fri 3 Jan 14

vag says...

It will be yet more new build flats. Yet more new builds = yet more social housing. Oh deep joy.
It will be yet more new build flats. Yet more new builds = yet more social housing. Oh deep joy. vag

11:51am Fri 3 Jan 14

Maine Lobster says...

loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I don't want it used for flats either but to blame Labour for the city' recent proliferation of flat developments is just twaddle. They weren't running the council then! That was your Tory idol Mr Smith.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I don't want it used for flats either but to blame Labour for the city' recent proliferation of flat developments is just twaddle. They weren't running the council then! That was your Tory idol Mr Smith. Maine Lobster

12:05pm Fri 3 Jan 14

thinklikealocal says...

loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough?
Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities?
nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once
ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed?

Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter. thinklikealocal

12:23pm Fri 3 Jan 14

southy says...

So the Labour Council is no different from the Tory council in selling of the city assets
So the Labour Council is no different from the Tory council in selling of the city assets southy

12:39pm Fri 3 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough?
Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities?
nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
Think you've hit the nail on the head.

How maritime employment, housing, bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses is ensuring 'development at the site to be focused around marine activities' is beyond me.

The same useless Labour council that last year scrapped the Snowdome scheme because it was martime focussed enough are now planning on cashing in along with private developers to build flats and restaurants.

What are the chances that this martitme theme that was the refusal of the Snowdome ends up as being nothing more than access to the waterfront and a seafood restaurant…
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]Think you've hit the nail on the head. How maritime employment, housing, bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses is ensuring 'development at the site to be focused around marine activities' is beyond me. The same useless Labour council that last year scrapped the Snowdome scheme because it was martime focussed enough are now planning on cashing in along with private developers to build flats and restaurants. What are the chances that this martitme theme that was the refusal of the Snowdome ends up as being nothing more than access to the waterfront and a seafood restaurant… sotonboy84

12:47pm Fri 3 Jan 14

ToastyTea says...

Let Cortese have it
Let Cortese have it ToastyTea

3:28pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Harrysdog says...

Should be offered to Saints as a reward for getting back into the Prem!!!
Should be offered to Saints as a reward for getting back into the Prem!!! Harrysdog

3:39pm Fri 3 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I don't want it used for flats either but to blame Labour for the city' recent proliferation of flat developments is just twaddle. They weren't running the council then! That was your Tory idol Mr Smith.
maine remember the tories put up an amount of the cities housing stock that had to remain houses & if that level was to drop they would not allow any houses to be knocked down for flats to be built.
I'm against flats no matter who's allowed them unless they're one bedroomed flats & those in houses or flats with more rooms than they need can move into the one bedroomed flats so letting young families move into a family home.
i don't care if the people are unemployed or working if it's council it should be for families not a couple or like my neighbour a single man in a two bedroomed house.
Maine I felt the Snowdome development with a new rowing club was a great idea for our young but Labour/Williams scrapped it using not water based enough are they now saying flats are?
That's why I'm attacking Labour!
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I don't want it used for flats either but to blame Labour for the city' recent proliferation of flat developments is just twaddle. They weren't running the council then! That was your Tory idol Mr Smith.[/p][/quote]maine remember the tories put up an amount of the cities housing stock that had to remain houses & if that level was to drop they would not allow any houses to be knocked down for flats to be built. I'm against flats no matter who's allowed them unless they're one bedroomed flats & those in houses or flats with more rooms than they need can move into the one bedroomed flats so letting young families move into a family home. i don't care if the people are unemployed or working if it's council it should be for families not a couple or like my neighbour a single man in a two bedroomed house. Maine I felt the Snowdome development with a new rowing club was a great idea for our young but Labour/Williams scrapped it using not water based enough are they now saying flats are? That's why I'm attacking Labour! loosehead

3:47pm Fri 3 Jan 14

loosehead says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough?
Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities?
nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once
ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed?

Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers?
So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then?
Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses.
this is it can you see housing?
and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development loosehead

5:07pm Fri 3 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Leisure? Hahahahahaha! Don't bloody think so! Any 'leisure' here will just be a waterfall running down off the roof of the flats so it's water based. This will be nothing but 'landmark' flats
Leisure? Hahahahahaha! Don't bloody think so! Any 'leisure' here will just be a waterfall running down off the roof of the flats so it's water based. This will be nothing but 'landmark' flats 03alpe01

6:54pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough?
Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities?
nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
Think you've hit the nail on the head.

How maritime employment, housing, bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses is ensuring 'development at the site to be focused around marine activities' is beyond me.

The same useless Labour council that last year scrapped the Snowdome scheme because it was martime focussed enough are now planning on cashing in along with private developers to build flats and restaurants.

What are the chances that this martitme theme that was the refusal of the Snowdome ends up as being nothing more than access to the waterfront and a seafood restaurant…
@sotonboy84 are you up for a cannabis debate on the Bournemouth echo?

http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/10
912808.Large_amount_
of_cannabis_discover
ed_at_address_in_Poo
le/
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]Think you've hit the nail on the head. How maritime employment, housing, bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses is ensuring 'development at the site to be focused around marine activities' is beyond me. The same useless Labour council that last year scrapped the Snowdome scheme because it was martime focussed enough are now planning on cashing in along with private developers to build flats and restaurants. What are the chances that this martitme theme that was the refusal of the Snowdome ends up as being nothing more than access to the waterfront and a seafood restaurant…[/p][/quote]@sotonboy84 are you up for a cannabis debate on the Bournemouth echo? http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/news/10 912808.Large_amount_ of_cannabis_discover ed_at_address_in_Poo le/ Dr Martin

8:53pm Fri 3 Jan 14

thinklikealocal says...

loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case. thinklikealocal

9:04pm Fri 3 Jan 14

loosehead says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company.
The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities.
so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it?
Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water?
as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility?
You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.[/p][/quote]look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once? loosehead

9:18pm Fri 3 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Couple of questions:

1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based?

2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats?

And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety?
Couple of questions: 1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based? 2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats? And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety? 03alpe01

9:34am Sat 4 Jan 14

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Couple of questions:

1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based?

2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats?

And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety?
floating flats? would you go there for a night out? at least the snowdome would have bought some ilfe to the area instead let's build more ghetto flats!
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Couple of questions: 1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based? 2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats? And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety?[/p][/quote]floating flats? would you go there for a night out? at least the snowdome would have bought some ilfe to the area instead let's build more ghetto flats! loosehead

9:46am Sat 4 Jan 14

thinklikealocal says...

loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?
As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that!

I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.[/p][/quote]look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?[/p][/quote]As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that! I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article. thinklikealocal

3:51pm Sat 4 Jan 14

loosehead says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?
As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that!

I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.
so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based?
How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it.
so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities?
so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats?
Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.[/p][/quote]look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?[/p][/quote]As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that! I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.[/p][/quote]so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based? How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it. so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities? so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats? Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy? loosehead

11:31pm Sat 4 Jan 14

thinklikealocal says...

loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?
As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that!

I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.
so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based?
How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it.
so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities?
so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats?
Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy?
well, for the third time! As far as I know, the land was ORIGINALLY designated too much of a flood risk for residential development, but I guess the criteria against which these decisions are made has now CHANGED. I really cannot think of a reason why cannot understand what I am saying!

Read the article again, it clearly states that the plan is to attract a range of high tech marine based activities in addition to the residential side of things. MARINE BASED ACTIVITIES.

My summary of the situation is that overall the plan remains the same. A mixed used to include marine based activities.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.[/p][/quote]look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?[/p][/quote]As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that! I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.[/p][/quote]so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based? How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it. so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities? so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats? Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy?[/p][/quote]well, for the third time! As far as I know, the land was ORIGINALLY designated too much of a flood risk for residential development, but I guess the criteria against which these decisions are made has now CHANGED. I really cannot think of a reason why cannot understand what I am saying! Read the article again, it clearly states that the plan is to attract a range of high tech marine based activities in addition to the residential side of things. MARINE BASED ACTIVITIES. My summary of the situation is that overall the plan remains the same. A mixed used to include marine based activities. thinklikealocal

1:56am Sun 5 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Couple of questions:

1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based?

2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats?

And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety?
floating flats? would you go there for a night out? at least the snowdome would have bought some ilfe to the area instead let's build more ghetto flats!
Only people who would go to a block of flats for a night out are the Southampton Councillors! I want a Snow Dome, it would actually attract people from far and wide to the City and would most definitely bring money in. With regards to the marine based activities as mentioned above I think we need to be realistic. The only water based thing here will be the waterfall like fountain on top of the flats to keep it 'water based'. Any other 'marine employment' will just be a guy standing there with a hose spraying the flats. I wouldn't like to foot their water bill! But hey! Anything for flats right Council? And even more bloody restaurants and bars. Forget the pub opposite (The Kingsland Tavern) lets just go for more of what we already have in abundance and more! Public access to the waterfront just means residents of the flats will get access to the waterfront whilst everyone else just gets to look at flats.

Welcome everyone to Southampton! The only place in the World where rowing is not considered a water based activity, yet a block of flats is!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Couple of questions: 1) How is a Snow Dome/Ice Rink/ Rowing Club not water based when if you think about it, all 3 relate to water in some way shape or form, and yet flats are deemed to be water based? 2) When they say they want public access to the waterfront, do they mean any member of the public, or the residents who live in all these watery flats? And even more bars and restaurants I see. When will they learn to give us some variety?[/p][/quote]floating flats? would you go there for a night out? at least the snowdome would have bought some ilfe to the area instead let's build more ghetto flats![/p][/quote]Only people who would go to a block of flats for a night out are the Southampton Councillors! I want a Snow Dome, it would actually attract people from far and wide to the City and would most definitely bring money in. With regards to the marine based activities as mentioned above I think we need to be realistic. The only water based thing here will be the waterfall like fountain on top of the flats to keep it 'water based'. Any other 'marine employment' will just be a guy standing there with a hose spraying the flats. I wouldn't like to foot their water bill! But hey! Anything for flats right Council? And even more bloody restaurants and bars. Forget the pub opposite (The Kingsland Tavern) lets just go for more of what we already have in abundance and more! Public access to the waterfront just means residents of the flats will get access to the waterfront whilst everyone else just gets to look at flats. Welcome everyone to Southampton! The only place in the World where rowing is not considered a water based activity, yet a block of flats is! 03alpe01

7:09am Sun 5 Jan 14

loosehead says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
loosehead wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.
read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development
So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.
look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?
As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that!

I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.
so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based?
How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it.
so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities?
so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats?
Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy?
well, for the third time! As far as I know, the land was ORIGINALLY designated too much of a flood risk for residential development, but I guess the criteria against which these decisions are made has now CHANGED. I really cannot think of a reason why cannot understand what I am saying!

Read the article again, it clearly states that the plan is to attract a range of high tech marine based activities in addition to the residential side of things. MARINE BASED ACTIVITIES.

My summary of the situation is that overall the plan remains the same. A mixed used to include marine based activities.
your just not getting it are you? Water based/ MARINE BASED?
exactly where do rowers row? why are we building residential properties on land that's designated as a flood plain?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so Ice & snow plus rowing clubs wasn't water based enough? Or is it they just couldn't get enough flats on the site with a Snow dome +Ice rink + new rowing club facilities? nearer to the east of the city but still central the Dome could have been a good water based activity centre for both sides of the city but hey flats will always come first with Labour won't it?[/p][/quote]I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Environment Agency once ruled that the land could not be used for housing re the flood risk. That left no option but commercial use. Maybe things have changed planning wise and housing will now be allowed? Restricted to commercial use I doubt if the land would have sold at all. Large brownfield site to clean up and the riverbank needs substantial and expensive work to make it fit for purpose. You can try and play the party political card all day long but the harsh financial reality is all developers are commercial profit making enterprises and without housing this site is anon starter.[/p][/quote]read the article it does say flats doesn't it? as for brownfield & suggesting it wouldn't attract developers? So what exactly were the company that was going to build a Snow Dome with an Ice Rink & the amalgamation of our two rowing clubs into a brand new facility then? Their vision for the site features maritime employment," housing", bars, restaurants, and leisure and recreational uses. this is it can you see housing? and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome. so you see it was a viable development[/p][/quote]So where exactly are the company that were gonna build a snow dome? I rest my case.[/p][/quote]look I know you like to make out every thing I say is wrong but why does it say this if there was no company. The site – otherwise known as Town Depot – has previously been used as the city council’s waste and recycling centre, and was earmarked as the site of a snowdome But that scheme was scrapped by Labour council chiefs last year, who said they wanted any development at the site to be focused around marine activities. so looks like there was plans & interested parties doesn't it? Now why don't you answer the question if you say this l;and can't be used for housing how can they build flats on it? How the hell is a block of flats Maritime based unless they're going to float in the water? as the Itchen has just burst it's banks should this area not be counted as flood plains? If No is the answer exactly what wasn't water based about Snow,Ice & a rowing club facility? You've ripped so much into me in the past why not tell the truth for once?[/p][/quote]As I said in my original post, as far as I know, the area was originally designated as non residential in terms of any development because if the flood risk. I guess the criteria for making this designation must now have changed. Not sure what you can't understand about that! I think any attempt to say a snow dome is a 'marine activity' because snow and ice are made of water is quite frankly laughable. This is a very large site and will end up as mixed use including marine based activities as stated in the article.[/p][/quote]so if your right the council can't build flats? under the Snow Dome was to be built a purpose built ROWING CLUB to house our two rowing clubs isn't rowing water based? How do I knopw this? a president of one of the clubs is a Rugby coach & at the other club Coalporters I worked with a member there & he told me about it. so we have a Labour council building flats on a flood plain? Rowing isn't water based? Restaurants are water based ( ships?) & Snow & Ice aren't water based attractions oh! sorry aren't using the Itchen for their activities? so the Flat owners will they be getting moorings? or is this going to be Housing Association flats? Please explain this as you seem to know so much about council policy?[/p][/quote]well, for the third time! As far as I know, the land was ORIGINALLY designated too much of a flood risk for residential development, but I guess the criteria against which these decisions are made has now CHANGED. I really cannot think of a reason why cannot understand what I am saying! Read the article again, it clearly states that the plan is to attract a range of high tech marine based activities in addition to the residential side of things. MARINE BASED ACTIVITIES. My summary of the situation is that overall the plan remains the same. A mixed used to include marine based activities.[/p][/quote]your just not getting it are you? Water based/ MARINE BASED? exactly where do rowers row? why are we building residential properties on land that's designated as a flood plain? loosehead

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