Southampton praised for weekly bin collections

Daily Echo: Southampton praised for weekly bin collections Southampton praised for weekly bin collections

SOUTHAMPTON has been hailed for keeping weekly bin collections – and other Hampshire councils told to bring them back.

Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles picked out the city council for praise in a new report designed to demolish “myths” about rubbish and recycling.

The study insists supporters of fortnightly collections – now widely adopted across Hampshire – are wrong to argue they are necessary to save cash and boost recycling.

And it concludes: “Innovative solutions can mean councils can protect weekly collections at little or no extra cost.”

Among those authorities is Southampton, Mr Pickles argued – pointing out it expected to slash £1.3m from its £13m waste bill by next year.

It had joined forces with neighbouring councils to cut back-office costs and was saving funds on agency and overtime working.

Southampton was also imaginatively using “social media technology to target its student population and encourage it to increase recycling”.

These changes were allowing the council to “retain a weekly collection of waste during a period when the city is expected to increase the number of households it collects from by over 4,000 households, a four per cent increase by 2017”.

However, Mr Pickles had fierce criticism for the majority of Hampshire councils that have defied him by switching to collecting waste every fortnight. They include Eastleigh, Fareham, Gosport, the Isle of Wight, Test Valley and Winchester. New Forest has retained weekly collections.

Mr Pickles said his myth-busting “bin bible” report had found a staggering 95 per cent of residents wanted their rubbish taken away every week. And he added: “Rubbish collections are the most visible service that people get for their £120 a month council tax bill.

“We have exposed ten false fictions that fortnightly bin barons cling to as excuses for cutting services.

“If councils adopt this new guide as their ‘bin bible’, they will be able to save taxpayers’ money and still increase the frequency and quality of rubbish and recycling collections.”

However, in reality, Mr Pickles appears to have lost the battle to persuade town halls – including Conservative ones – to switch back to weekly collections.

A £250m fund was instead gobbled up by councils that already picked up rubbish every seven days, in order to boost recycling.

Southampton was awarded £8.3m, which it will use to run ten new vehicles to collect glass and to replace older vehicles that can no longer be used.

And a phone app will allow residents to set up mobile phone reminders to put out their bins on the correct day and find their nearest communal recycling facilities.

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12:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

waggers5 says...

Pickles is clueless, as is this reporter. Eastleigh hasn't "defied him by switching to collecting waste every fortnight" - we've had fortnightly collections for many years, long before Pickles came to power. And they work.

Southampton is way behind the curve on recycling - in Eastleigh the rate is 41.14% (3rd in Hampshire) compared with Southampton's dire 27.81% (3rd from bottom). Yes Southampton are putting in measures to save money on waste collection but these are measures other local councils put in place long ago.
Pickles is clueless, as is this reporter. Eastleigh hasn't "defied him by switching to collecting waste every fortnight" - we've had fortnightly collections for many years, long before Pickles came to power. And they work. Southampton is way behind the curve on recycling - in Eastleigh the rate is 41.14% (3rd in Hampshire) compared with Southampton's dire 27.81% (3rd from bottom). Yes Southampton are putting in measures to save money on waste collection but these are measures other local councils put in place long ago. waggers5
  • Score: 5

1:07pm Tue 7 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

If the aim is to reduce the rubbish collection bill then the council should stick to collecting and disposing of waste and not spending money on useless 'Bin it to win it' schemes. I'm sure a lot of money was spend on devising and implementing it and all you're left with is a scheme that's of interest to very little people and impossible to manage properly.
If the aim is to reduce the rubbish collection bill then the council should stick to collecting and disposing of waste and not spending money on useless 'Bin it to win it' schemes. I'm sure a lot of money was spend on devising and implementing it and all you're left with is a scheme that's of interest to very little people and impossible to manage properly. sotonboy84
  • Score: 3

3:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Linesman says...

Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration.
Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration. Linesman
  • Score: -1

4:19pm Tue 7 Jan 14

House Sparrow says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
If the aim is to reduce the rubbish collection bill then the council should stick to collecting and disposing of waste and not spending money on useless 'Bin it to win it' schemes. I'm sure a lot of money was spend on devising and implementing it and all you're left with is a scheme that's of interest to very little people and impossible to manage properly.
Are leprechauns that interested in rubbish collections. Perhaps they would only ask for very small wages to empty the bins!
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: If the aim is to reduce the rubbish collection bill then the council should stick to collecting and disposing of waste and not spending money on useless 'Bin it to win it' schemes. I'm sure a lot of money was spend on devising and implementing it and all you're left with is a scheme that's of interest to very little people and impossible to manage properly.[/p][/quote]Are leprechauns that interested in rubbish collections. Perhaps they would only ask for very small wages to empty the bins! House Sparrow
  • Score: 2

6:34pm Tue 7 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Well done the last Tory council for applying for the grant to keep weekly collections as Labour was going to go Fortnightly but then upped the grant needed & then sought the Tories support to get the grant so well done our Tory MP & our local Tory party!!
Or did the Echo report it wrongly when Williams said fortnightly bin collections & one in ten refuse collectors would lose their jobs?
Well done the last Tory council for applying for the grant to keep weekly collections as Labour was going to go Fortnightly but then upped the grant needed & then sought the Tories support to get the grant so well done our Tory MP & our local Tory party!! Or did the Echo report it wrongly when Williams said fortnightly bin collections & one in ten refuse collectors would lose their jobs? loosehead
  • Score: 0

6:35pm Tue 7 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration.
Try looking at what Labour said when elected about refuse collections!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration.[/p][/quote]Try looking at what Labour said when elected about refuse collections! loosehead
  • Score: 3

7:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections.
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After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........
I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections. . After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ........... Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Tue 7 Jan 14

StevenGalton says...

I think Mr Pickles is giving himself a pat on the back here.

The facts: Conservatives promised to keep weekly bin collections, as did Labour prior to the 2012 local elections.

Summer/Autumn 2012 Labour announced bi-weekly collections just months after promising they wouldn't should they gain control of the Council!

As this article from Nov 2012 shows - http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/10065651
.Weekly_bin_collecti
ons_saved_by___8m_Go
vernment_cash/ - the reason we have weekly bin collections is the government grant - Labour planned to scrap weekly collections despite the promise to keep them.

Labour also promised to maintain free green waste collections if they got the grant - they didn't keep that side of the bargain and it becomes another one of Labours broken promises to Southampton residents.
I think Mr Pickles is giving himself a pat on the back here. The facts: Conservatives promised to keep weekly bin collections, as did Labour prior to the 2012 local elections. Summer/Autumn 2012 Labour announced bi-weekly collections just months after promising they wouldn't should they gain control of the Council! As this article from Nov 2012 shows - http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/10065651 .Weekly_bin_collecti ons_saved_by___8m_Go vernment_cash/ - the reason we have weekly bin collections is the government grant - Labour planned to scrap weekly collections despite the promise to keep them. Labour also promised to maintain free green waste collections if they got the grant - they didn't keep that side of the bargain and it becomes another one of Labours broken promises to Southampton residents. StevenGalton
  • Score: 2

9:03pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

StevenGalton wrote:
I think Mr Pickles is giving himself a pat on the back here.

The facts: Conservatives promised to keep weekly bin collections, as did Labour prior to the 2012 local elections.

Summer/Autumn 2012 Labour announced bi-weekly collections just months after promising they wouldn't should they gain control of the Council!

As this article from Nov 2012 shows - http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/news/10065651

.Weekly_bin_collecti

ons_saved_by___8m_Go

vernment_cash/ - the reason we have weekly bin collections is the government grant - Labour planned to scrap weekly collections despite the promise to keep them.

Labour also promised to maintain free green waste collections if they got the grant - they didn't keep that side of the bargain and it becomes another one of Labours broken promises to Southampton residents.
Mr Galton ........ didnt the Tories propose to charge for Geen Waste collection in your own "Summary of Efficiencies".
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[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: I think Mr Pickles is giving himself a pat on the back here. The facts: Conservatives promised to keep weekly bin collections, as did Labour prior to the 2012 local elections. Summer/Autumn 2012 Labour announced bi-weekly collections just months after promising they wouldn't should they gain control of the Council! As this article from Nov 2012 shows - http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/10065651 .Weekly_bin_collecti ons_saved_by___8m_Go vernment_cash/ - the reason we have weekly bin collections is the government grant - Labour planned to scrap weekly collections despite the promise to keep them. Labour also promised to maintain free green waste collections if they got the grant - they didn't keep that side of the bargain and it becomes another one of Labours broken promises to Southampton residents.[/p][/quote]Mr Galton ........ didnt the Tories propose to charge for Geen Waste collection in your own "Summary of Efficiencies". . Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

9:13pm Tue 7 Jan 14

loosehead says...

mr Galton Isn't it great to see Labour & it's supporters once again taking credit for a Tory initiative.
If I remember they were looking at ways to get people to recycle more(Tories) but under this Labour council with it's threats of £100 fines why recycle why not just bag it & put it into your green bin?
No fine & a loss of revenue to the council sounds a good idea doesn't it? as this is what Labour are forcing people to do.
what happened to the heating/hot water scheme councillor Hannides was promoting & Labour said they were looking into for Itchen from the incinerator?
mr Galton Isn't it great to see Labour & it's supporters once again taking credit for a Tory initiative. If I remember they were looking at ways to get people to recycle more(Tories) but under this Labour council with it's threats of £100 fines why recycle why not just bag it & put it into your green bin? No fine & a loss of revenue to the council sounds a good idea doesn't it? as this is what Labour are forcing people to do. what happened to the heating/hot water scheme councillor Hannides was promoting & Labour said they were looking into for Itchen from the incinerator? loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:17pm Tue 7 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections.
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After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........
so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents?
well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor?
The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections. . After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........[/p][/quote]so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents? well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor? The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike? loosehead
  • Score: -1

10:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Steevm says...

Moving away from the politics, as Southampton is sat around two rivers, I like the idea of weekly bin collections rather than fortnightly for fear of increasing the rodent populace in residential areas. It was bad enough in hedge end for that, I only half fill the bin but it goes out each week regardless.
Moving away from the politics, as Southampton is sat around two rivers, I like the idea of weekly bin collections rather than fortnightly for fear of increasing the rodent populace in residential areas. It was bad enough in hedge end for that, I only half fill the bin but it goes out each week regardless. Steevm
  • Score: 1

11:10pm Tue 7 Jan 14

StevenGalton says...

Mr Lone Ranger - The Conservatives NEVER introduced a green waste charge and made it very clear they/we wouldn't - the government bid was all about improving recycling rates by adding kerbside glass to a weekly bin collection and FREE fortnightly green waste - The amended bid by Labour included these facts as promises and commitments yet Southampton Labour clearly have no qualms about going back on their word!

As an aside in the impact assessment of the new Labour green waste charge service there was a risk of job losses as a result of the new, reduced service - I genuinely wonder if anyone did lose their job as a result of charging for green waste?

Potentially reduced recycling and reduced jobs, yet money was given to Soton Labour by the central government to protect the service and therefore jobs - the only question should be to Labour and why they did this despite their promises...
Mr Lone Ranger - The Conservatives NEVER introduced a green waste charge and made it very clear they/we wouldn't - the government bid was all about improving recycling rates by adding kerbside glass to a weekly bin collection and FREE fortnightly green waste - The amended bid by Labour included these facts as promises and commitments yet Southampton Labour clearly have no qualms about going back on their word! As an aside in the impact assessment of the new Labour green waste charge service there was a risk of job losses as a result of the new, reduced service - I genuinely wonder if anyone did lose their job as a result of charging for green waste? Potentially reduced recycling and reduced jobs, yet money was given to Soton Labour by the central government to protect the service and therefore jobs - the only question should be to Labour and why they did this despite their promises... StevenGalton
  • Score: 0

9:01am Wed 8 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Mr Lone Ranger - The Conservatives NEVER introduced a green waste charge and made it very clear they/we wouldn't - the government bid was all about improving recycling rates by adding kerbside glass to a weekly bin collection and FREE fortnightly green waste - The amended bid by Labour included these facts as promises and commitments yet Southampton Labour clearly have no qualms about going back on their word!

As an aside in the impact assessment of the new Labour green waste charge service there was a risk of job losses as a result of the new, reduced service - I genuinely wonder if anyone did lose their job as a result of charging for green waste?

Potentially reduced recycling and reduced jobs, yet money was given to Soton Labour by the central government to protect the service and therefore jobs - the only question should be to Labour and why they did this despite their promises...
Mr Galton ....... I am well aware that your Tory council did not bring in charges for Green Waste BECAUSE you were not in power to carry out your plans as stated in the "Summary of Efficiencies".
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However, i did ask whether you proposed to bring them in as shown in your "Summary of Efficiencies".
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There were other areas of debate contained in that document that your council were accredited to .... But try to wriggle out of when questioned.
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The point is that the Tories were up in arms about this yet it was well in their plans to carry this out ....... Wouldnt you agree
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Mr Lone Ranger - The Conservatives NEVER introduced a green waste charge and made it very clear they/we wouldn't - the government bid was all about improving recycling rates by adding kerbside glass to a weekly bin collection and FREE fortnightly green waste - The amended bid by Labour included these facts as promises and commitments yet Southampton Labour clearly have no qualms about going back on their word! As an aside in the impact assessment of the new Labour green waste charge service there was a risk of job losses as a result of the new, reduced service - I genuinely wonder if anyone did lose their job as a result of charging for green waste? Potentially reduced recycling and reduced jobs, yet money was given to Soton Labour by the central government to protect the service and therefore jobs - the only question should be to Labour and why they did this despite their promises...[/p][/quote]Mr Galton ....... I am well aware that your Tory council did not bring in charges for Green Waste BECAUSE you were not in power to carry out your plans as stated in the "Summary of Efficiencies". . However, i did ask whether you proposed to bring them in as shown in your "Summary of Efficiencies". . There were other areas of debate contained in that document that your council were accredited to .... But try to wriggle out of when questioned. . The point is that the Tories were up in arms about this yet it was well in their plans to carry this out ....... Wouldnt you agree Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 1

9:22am Wed 8 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration.
Try looking at what Labour said when elected about refuse collections!
Try looking at what your beloved Tories said in the run-up to the last election.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Nice of Mr Pickles to congratulate the Labour-run City Council for maintaining a weekly service, instead of the fortnightly service promised by Royston Smith's administration.[/p][/quote]Try looking at what Labour said when elected about refuse collections![/p][/quote]Try looking at what your beloved Tories said in the run-up to the last election. Linesman
  • Score: 2

9:34am Wed 8 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections.
.
After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........
so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents?
well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor?
The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike?
The strike action was taken by the Unions IN RESPONSE TO ACTION TAKEN BY THE TORY ADMINISTRATION IN SOUTHAMPTON.

This was purely a LOCAL issue.

I can think of no other Local Authority that caused as much chaos as that run by Royston Smith and his cohorts.

Why was this the case?

Because other authorities NEGOTIATED with the Unions, where Smith&Co adopted a dictatorial stance, thinking that they would get backing from Westminster.

loosehead may not be able to see the truth through his blue-tinted glasses, but the citizens of Southampton could, and removed the Tories at the first opportunity.

That rather knocks a hole in loosehead's claim, "well really shows the contempt Labour & those two Unions have for the residents of this city."

If that were the case, why is there now a Labour administration.

Is loosehead claiming that the Southampton electorate are ignorant?

I think he needs to give an explanation to justify his claim.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections. . After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........[/p][/quote]so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents? well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor? The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike?[/p][/quote]The strike action was taken by the Unions IN RESPONSE TO ACTION TAKEN BY THE TORY ADMINISTRATION IN SOUTHAMPTON. This was purely a LOCAL issue. I can think of no other Local Authority that caused as much chaos as that run by Royston Smith and his cohorts. Why was this the case? Because other authorities NEGOTIATED with the Unions, where Smith&Co adopted a dictatorial stance, thinking that they would get backing from Westminster. loosehead may not be able to see the truth through his blue-tinted glasses, but the citizens of Southampton could, and removed the Tories at the first opportunity. That rather knocks a hole in loosehead's claim, "well really shows the contempt Labour & those two Unions have for the residents of this city." If that were the case, why is there now a Labour administration. Is loosehead claiming that the Southampton electorate are ignorant? I think he needs to give an explanation to justify his claim. Linesman
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Wed 8 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections.
.
After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........
so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents?
well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor?
The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike?
The strike action was taken by the Unions IN RESPONSE TO ACTION TAKEN BY THE TORY ADMINISTRATION IN SOUTHAMPTON.

This was purely a LOCAL issue.

I can think of no other Local Authority that caused as much chaos as that run by Royston Smith and his cohorts.

Why was this the case?

Because other authorities NEGOTIATED with the Unions, where Smith&Co adopted a dictatorial stance, thinking that they would get backing from Westminster.

loosehead may not be able to see the truth through his blue-tinted glasses, but the citizens of Southampton could, and removed the Tories at the first opportunity.

That rather knocks a hole in loosehead's claim, "well really shows the contempt Labour & those two Unions have for the residents of this city."

If that were the case, why is there now a Labour administration.

Is loosehead claiming that the Southampton electorate are ignorant?

I think he needs to give an explanation to justify his claim.
So the very fact even at ACAS the two unions refused to negotiate as they had done at the start of the talks on the cut in the budget had nothing to do with the strikes?
the very same Unions who had written to Labour saying they were going to do all in their power to oust a elected Tory Council?
When 5 proposals are put forward with 5 amendments & the time for decisions are getting towards the point of no return they the unions were still saying hit the bankers & would not negotiate at all so come on Linesman what alternatives did the Tory Council have?
Now let's see the result of Labour restoring pay. Job Cuts, Services Cut many of those jobs were of the lower paid council workers who trusted Labour &* went on strike to get a Labour council.
Why did they scrap a deal with the Isle Of Wight council that would have seen some top earners on either council losing their jobs but saving each councils millions?
What about the promise in the grant application to keep free green waste collections only to renege on that promise? a bit like Liverpools grant application wasn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I would think that Pickles would congratulate the Labour run council for maintaining weekly bin collections. . After all it wasnt that long ago that under the Tories leadership the bins were not being emptied at all ...........[/p][/quote]so your proud of a political strike/action bought on by two unions to re-elect Labour & how it effected this cities residents? well really shows the contempt Labour & those two unions have for the residents of this city doesn't it councillor? The Tories hired more permanent refuse collectors Labour wanted to cut one in ten so why did they strike?[/p][/quote]The strike action was taken by the Unions IN RESPONSE TO ACTION TAKEN BY THE TORY ADMINISTRATION IN SOUTHAMPTON. This was purely a LOCAL issue. I can think of no other Local Authority that caused as much chaos as that run by Royston Smith and his cohorts. Why was this the case? Because other authorities NEGOTIATED with the Unions, where Smith&Co adopted a dictatorial stance, thinking that they would get backing from Westminster. loosehead may not be able to see the truth through his blue-tinted glasses, but the citizens of Southampton could, and removed the Tories at the first opportunity. That rather knocks a hole in loosehead's claim, "well really shows the contempt Labour & those two Unions have for the residents of this city." If that were the case, why is there now a Labour administration. Is loosehead claiming that the Southampton electorate are ignorant? I think he needs to give an explanation to justify his claim.[/p][/quote]So the very fact even at ACAS the two unions refused to negotiate as they had done at the start of the talks on the cut in the budget had nothing to do with the strikes? the very same Unions who had written to Labour saying they were going to do all in their power to oust a elected Tory Council? When 5 proposals are put forward with 5 amendments & the time for decisions are getting towards the point of no return they the unions were still saying hit the bankers & would not negotiate at all so come on Linesman what alternatives did the Tory Council have? Now let's see the result of Labour restoring pay. Job Cuts, Services Cut many of those jobs were of the lower paid council workers who trusted Labour &* went on strike to get a Labour council. Why did they scrap a deal with the Isle Of Wight council that would have seen some top earners on either council losing their jobs but saving each councils millions? What about the promise in the grant application to keep free green waste collections only to renege on that promise? a bit like Liverpools grant application wasn't it? loosehead
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Wed 8 Jan 14

StevenGalton says...

Lone - You rightly point out there was one draft Conservative budget consultation that carried these proposals during the Conservative tenure, however it was removed immediately as a plausible idea as proven by the Feb budget that was set removing the item. Conservatives then made it very clear we would protect the free service and continue to provide it regardless of receiving any additional money from central government.

Labour matched this pledge in their election material - they also guaranteed in the modified grant proposal that they would maintain it for free along with a weekly refuse collection if the full money was given.

Why can you not just accept Southampton Labour lied on this - Conservatives were very clear and I've always provided 100% facts not opinion or misguided information (I believe I've previously posted links to relevant documents on other related posts, alternatively search the SCC website for documents).

It is very disingenuous to suggest anything else and continuing to try and say it was a Conservative plan is just an attempt to divert from the fact Labour lied and went back on their word on free green waste collections. All budgets are set in February and the Conservatives carried out all actions prior to handover of the Council - it's why Labour promised to hold an immediate "summer" mini budget if they won power.
Lone - You rightly point out there was one draft Conservative budget consultation that carried these proposals during the Conservative tenure, however it was removed immediately as a plausible idea as proven by the Feb budget that was set removing the item. Conservatives then made it very clear we would protect the free service and continue to provide it regardless of receiving any additional money from central government. Labour matched this pledge in their election material - they also guaranteed in the modified grant proposal that they would maintain it for free along with a weekly refuse collection if the full money was given. Why can you not just accept Southampton Labour lied on this - Conservatives were very clear and I've always provided 100% facts not opinion or misguided information (I believe I've previously posted links to relevant documents on other related posts, alternatively search the SCC website for documents). It is very disingenuous to suggest anything else and continuing to try and say it was a Conservative plan is just an attempt to divert from the fact Labour lied and went back on their word on free green waste collections. All budgets are set in February and the Conservatives carried out all actions prior to handover of the Council - it's why Labour promised to hold an immediate "summer" mini budget if they won power. StevenGalton
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