Mentally ill patient stabs doctor with fountain pen

Daily Echo: Mentally ill patient stabs doctor with fountain pen Mentally ill patient stabs doctor with fountain pen

A PATIENT with a personality disorder stabbed a doctor with a fountain pen during a consultation, Southampton Crown Court heard.

Neil Campbell had been accompanied to the practice in Stoneham Lane with two friends to help him resolve a problem he had been experiencing with the Department of Work and Pensions over his benefit.

Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it.

Campbell then flew into a rage, yelling it had been “a complete of waste of time”, before grabbing the doctor’s pen.

He then removed the top, lunged at the GP and stabbed him with the pen in his lower left arm.

He then removed the pen and threw it down before leaving.

Dr Hamid followed, applying first aid to the puncture wound. He told police it had been very painful at the time and the shock had added to it.

Campbell, 38, of Monks Way, Mansbridge, admitted wounding.

Recorder Nicholas Haggan QC, who read two psychiatric reports, accepted the stabbing had not been premeditated.

Giving him a 12-month suspended sentence coupled with 18 months’ supervision, the judge added: “You knew what you did was serious. The doctor was doing his public duty and was vulnerable to attack.

“But in my view had you not been unwell, I accept this would not have happened and you would not have behaved in this way.”

In mitigation, Richard Martin described Campbell, who once had suffered a breakdown, as living an isolated existence. He had been signed off work but was not work shy and added that the appointment with the doctor got off to a bad start when Campbell went to the toilet and another patient was called.

“There is no criticism of the doctor here. He was doing his best but could not resolve the defendant’s situation, and it was at this point Campbell doesn’t remember what happened but accepts he attacked the doctor after picking up the pen.”

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12:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence. sotonboy84
  • Score: 10

12:38pm Mon 13 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

that surgery is notorious for that kind of treatment of vulnerable people.
that surgery is notorious for that kind of treatment of vulnerable people. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: -10

2:00pm Mon 13 Jan 14

userds5050 says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police." userds5050
  • Score: -4

3:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness. sotonboy84
  • Score: 10

3:15pm Mon 13 Jan 14

userds5050 says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
No, but having a personality disorder does. Try reading the story before replying to me in the future.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.[/p][/quote]No, but having a personality disorder does. Try reading the story before replying to me in the future. userds5050
  • Score: -10

4:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

freefinker says...

Adds a whole new meaning to Woody Guthrie's lyrics: -
"Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen."
Adds a whole new meaning to Woody Guthrie's lyrics: - "Some will rob you with a six-gun, And some with a fountain pen." freefinker
  • Score: -8

4:07pm Mon 13 Jan 14

localnews says...

So the pen IS mightier than the sword
So the pen IS mightier than the sword localnews
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Charlie Bucket says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.[/p][/quote]Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: -1

5:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.
I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.[/p][/quote]Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.[/p][/quote]I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong. sotonboy84
  • Score: 10

5:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Charlie Bucket says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.
I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong.
You said "Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness". If that's not you connecting the incident with his diagnosis, then what is it?
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.[/p][/quote]Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.[/p][/quote]I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong.[/p][/quote]You said "Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness". If that's not you connecting the incident with his diagnosis, then what is it? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: -2

5:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Charlie Bucket says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor.

He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.
"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?"
Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you."
Stabs doctor with fountain pen.
Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."
"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it."

Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.
Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.
I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong.
You said "Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness". If that's not you connecting the incident with his diagnosis, then what is it?
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Mentall illness is no excuse for what he did. He had arranged to go to the doctor, arranged for friends to go with him and try to sort out an exisiting issue which all suggests a logical thought process at the time of the attack. He did not get what he went for and so lashed out and attacked the doctor. He should be held accountable for his actions and punished and not just given a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]"I'm mentally ill will you help me with my appeal against theDWP?" Doctor: "No, there's nothing wrong with you." Stabs doctor with fountain pen. Doctor: "You're mentally ill. I'm calling the police."[/p][/quote]"Prosecutor Dawn Hyland said Campbell wanted Dr Yasir Hamid to write a letter to the department to support his claim but the doctor felt he could not do it." Although there is no detail in the story to say what the man asked the doctor, the doctor used his medical judgement and said he couldn't do what the man asked. Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness.[/p][/quote]Nowhere in the story does it say this attack was what led to the diagnosis. Everything points to his illness being a known condition prior to this.[/p][/quote]I haven't suggested that the attack led to his diagnosis but for somebody that displayed a logical thought process beforehand then lashed out because they couldn't get what they wanted should be held accountable for their actions. A label of mental illness is not an all-rounder excuse when somebody does wrong.[/p][/quote]You said "Stabbing somebody with a pen in itself does not diagnose a mental illness". If that's not you connecting the incident with his diagnosis, then what is it? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: -5

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