Future of Bitterne Park Hotel in doubt

Historic pub boarded up as landlord quits

Historic pub boarded up as landlord quits

First published in News

A HISTORIC Hampshire pub has been shut and boarded up after the landlord called time and announced he was leaving.

Regulars at the Bitterne Park Hotel were called in for a farewell party by landlord Ian Houston as he revealed he was closing for good.

It’s the latest in a number of pubs in the area to close its doors, with the Castle Pub in Midanbury becoming a Tesco Express, while the Bittern Pub is set to become a McDonalds despite a campaign to save it.

However, owners Enterprise Inns have insisted the Cobden Road site will remain as a pub and say they are now looking for someone new to run it.

But that’s not stopped residents and local traders fearing it could be the death knell for another community landmark, following the loss of a chemist and post office in recent years.

Some shop owners told the Daily Echo they fear the site could become a fast food restaurant, which would finish off small cafes that have opened in the area.

Graham Cotton, of Cottons Bakery, had been drinking at the pub for more than 40 years.

He said: “I have been going there since 1968. It was the last centre of the community. I used to use it all the time.”

He added: “I would like to see someone step in and take it over, but I fear that won’t happen.”

Nick Nicolaou, manager of Andy’s Fish and Chips, wasn’t surprised by the sudden closure.

He said: “It’s sad, everything seems to have gone, the post office closed, as did the chemists. The community here is disappearing.”

According to the Bitterne Local History society, the pub dates back to the end of the 19th century.

Conservative councillor for Bitterne Park Ward Peter Bailey said: “Ian has done a terrific job in very difficult circumstances.

“There is a big market for a pub in Bitterne Park and it would be a loss to the community if it was closed for good, but I expect it to re-open.”

A statement from Enterprise Inns, who own the pub, said: “We can confirm that the Bitterne Park Hotel closed following the publican’s decision to cease trading.

“However our aim is for the pub to resume trading at the earliest opportunity and we are actively recruiting for a new publican.”

The closure comes as civic chiefs in Southampton suffered a setback in their bid to protect city pubs, which would have made it harder to convert pubs into shops and takeaways.

Leader of Southampton City Council, Simon Letts, said: “I fully support Enterprise Inns seeking a new tenant to take the pub on. Let’s hope we can trust them on this.”

Graeme Hilton, spokesman for the Campaign for Real Ale in Hampshire (CAMRA), said: “It is always sad to see a pub close, especially when they could be turned into convenience stores almost overnight.

“The closure of the Bitterne Park Hotel is a sad loss for the Bitterne Park community.”

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8:06am Fri 17 Jan 14

elvisimo says...

problem with enterprise inns is they want huge rents, a beer tie, AWP income and a cut of food. Whilst the rents are less that a non tied unit the cumulative parts are just too high, They want £35k rent for this and have the Fox & Hounds on the market plus The Avenue and the Dorchester Arms. Sensible deals based on turnover would work.
problem with enterprise inns is they want huge rents, a beer tie, AWP income and a cut of food. Whilst the rents are less that a non tied unit the cumulative parts are just too high, They want £35k rent for this and have the Fox & Hounds on the market plus The Avenue and the Dorchester Arms. Sensible deals based on turnover would work. elvisimo
  • Score: 37

8:11am Fri 17 Jan 14

SotonGreen says...

The issue is the business model lanlords impose on tenants is such it is almost impossible for these local pubs to provide a living wage for those operating them. Enterprise Inns are as much part of the problem as they are the solution.
The issue is the business model lanlords impose on tenants is such it is almost impossible for these local pubs to provide a living wage for those operating them. Enterprise Inns are as much part of the problem as they are the solution. SotonGreen
  • Score: 40

9:13am Fri 17 Jan 14

naughtyeyes says...

like elivsmo said...enterprise inns do have large rents and beer cost and it stop inn keepers from being able to make profit and keep the doors open.....I my self have been working for punch tavern as a holding manager while pubs are being sold and am now out of work after the swan pub in totton was sold and is now to become a indian restaurant....I want to run another pub and put live music on,do bar food and have a happy bunch of punters but I cant even get a job as a manager at the moment....the government,brewerys and beer costs being cheeper at the super maket are killing the pubs as well as the smoking ban...its discusting
like elivsmo said...enterprise inns do have large rents and beer cost and it stop inn keepers from being able to make profit and keep the doors open.....I my self have been working for punch tavern as a holding manager while pubs are being sold and am now out of work after the swan pub in totton was sold and is now to become a indian restaurant....I want to run another pub and put live music on,do bar food and have a happy bunch of punters but I cant even get a job as a manager at the moment....the government,brewerys and beer costs being cheeper at the super maket are killing the pubs as well as the smoking ban...its discusting naughtyeyes
  • Score: 26

9:24am Fri 17 Jan 14

spotburst says...

Here's a little of what Enterprise do to good landlords:

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Note in particular:
(landlord) Brian Mannion, 45, says he is forced to pay prices for certain draught beers that are 66pc above market rates.

Why? because Enterprise can.
Here's a little of what Enterprise do to good landlords: http://www.telegraph .co.uk/finance/newsb ysector/retailandcon sumer/10080033/Histo ric-pub-to-stop-serv ing-pints-in-protest -at-beer-tie-fees.ht ml Note in particular: (landlord) Brian Mannion, 45, says he is forced to pay prices for certain draught beers that are 66pc above market rates. Why? because Enterprise can. spotburst
  • Score: 29

9:27am Fri 17 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose
great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 22

9:36am Fri 17 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

more flats vicar ?
more flats vicar ? WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: -5

9:47am Fri 17 Jan 14

sophisticated says...

I would use this place if it looked a bit more family friendly and tidier on the outside, nothing entices me to walk in and have a drink. It looks a bit run down.
I would use this place if it looked a bit more family friendly and tidier on the outside, nothing entices me to walk in and have a drink. It looks a bit run down. sophisticated
  • Score: 18

10:09am Fri 17 Jan 14

naughtyeyes says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose
I would like the chance to run it but I don't have the ingoing that the brewery want
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose[/p][/quote]I would like the chance to run it but I don't have the ingoing that the brewery want naughtyeyes
  • Score: 8

10:26am Fri 17 Jan 14

Harrysdog says...

Drive past it every day to work, this has to be one of the most filthy looking pubs in Southampton, doubt if a single penny has been spent on maintenance of the building. I did notice that they were offering B&B rooms, I can only imagine what they look like....
Drive past it every day to work, this has to be one of the most filthy looking pubs in Southampton, doubt if a single penny has been spent on maintenance of the building. I did notice that they were offering B&B rooms, I can only imagine what they look like.... Harrysdog
  • Score: 18

10:28am Fri 17 Jan 14

spotburst says...

naughtyeyes wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose
I would like the chance to run it but I don't have the ingoing that the brewery want
Note - Enterprise Inns isn't a brewery. You'd be giving brewers a bad name!
[quote][p][bold]naughtyeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: great loss . A good pub with excellent music , and no nonsense , due to the biker presence . Fingers crossed it re opens soon as can be as good . The B.P. is to good to lose[/p][/quote]I would like the chance to run it but I don't have the ingoing that the brewery want[/p][/quote]Note - Enterprise Inns isn't a brewery. You'd be giving brewers a bad name! spotburst
  • Score: 10

11:02am Fri 17 Jan 14

52NotOut says...

Best of luck to Ian and Michelle! And thanks. Fraser
Best of luck to Ian and Michelle! And thanks. Fraser 52NotOut
  • Score: 13

12:26pm Fri 17 Jan 14

wwozzer says...

To be fair the Bitterne Park Hotel looked anything but inviting, I never once drove past on my way home from work and yearned for a pint in there, It had the look of a place where the juke box would stop if I walked in.

Not many boozers can survive on just their regulars anymore, partly due to the smoking ban. They need to adapt and get into food, attract new customers lunchtime and evening. All the successful ones seem to be at least 50/50 restaurant/pub, some are even 80/20.
To be fair the Bitterne Park Hotel looked anything but inviting, I never once drove past on my way home from work and yearned for a pint in there, It had the look of a place where the juke box would stop if I walked in. Not many boozers can survive on just their regulars anymore, partly due to the smoking ban. They need to adapt and get into food, attract new customers lunchtime and evening. All the successful ones seem to be at least 50/50 restaurant/pub, some are even 80/20. wwozzer
  • Score: 9

12:26pm Fri 17 Jan 14

chimneysweep 1234 says...

It's a dump thank good it's the blight of bittern by by good ridence
It's a dump thank good it's the blight of bittern by by good ridence chimneysweep 1234
  • Score: -13

12:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

cliffwalker says...

I have to agree with those referring to its unattractive exterior and unwelcoming appearance. I have often been in the area but have never felt tempted to try this Dracula's lair looking pub.
I have to agree with those referring to its unattractive exterior and unwelcoming appearance. I have often been in the area but have never felt tempted to try this Dracula's lair looking pub. cliffwalker
  • Score: 10

1:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

bobbywestie says...

Another watering hole in Southampton gone. This is not good. Woolston & Sholing Conservative Club closed it's doors on Sunday 12 January. Grim day for members, staff and Committee members alike
Another watering hole in Southampton gone. This is not good. Woolston & Sholing Conservative Club closed it's doors on Sunday 12 January. Grim day for members, staff and Committee members alike bobbywestie
  • Score: 3

1:24pm Fri 17 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well.
It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands.
The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you.
It will be a big loss to the community for sure.
Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well. It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands. The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you. It will be a big loss to the community for sure. bigfella777
  • Score: 34

2:10pm Fri 17 Jan 14

kiddynamite says...

sophisticated wrote:
I would use this place if it looked a bit more family friendly and tidier on the outside, nothing entices me to walk in and have a drink. It looks a bit run down.
It looks no better inside.
[quote][p][bold]sophisticated[/bold] wrote: I would use this place if it looked a bit more family friendly and tidier on the outside, nothing entices me to walk in and have a drink. It looks a bit run down.[/p][/quote]It looks no better inside. kiddynamite
  • Score: 5

2:24pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Sooz1988 says...

Finally.. bye bye
Finally.. bye bye Sooz1988
  • Score: -2

3:16pm Fri 17 Jan 14

durkiboy says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well.
It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands.
The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you.
It will be a big loss to the community for sure.
Hear hear, is such a shame to see the BP go, Ian will be missed, a proper publican with a proper pub!!!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well. It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands. The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you. It will be a big loss to the community for sure.[/p][/quote]Hear hear, is such a shame to see the BP go, Ian will be missed, a proper publican with a proper pub!!! durkiboy
  • Score: 23

6:36pm Fri 17 Jan 14

boxing_nut says...

Sums it up:

"I used to use it all the time.”

If people used their local pubs more instead of moaning about them closing then they wouldn't close.

Plenty of busy pubs still out there but they are well run, clean, inviting and don't let riff raff in.
Sums it up: "I used to use it all the time.” If people used their local pubs more instead of moaning about them closing then they wouldn't close. Plenty of busy pubs still out there but they are well run, clean, inviting and don't let riff raff in. boxing_nut
  • Score: 6

6:45pm Fri 17 Jan 14

misshouston1986 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well.
It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands.
The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you.
It will be a big loss to the community for sure.
Thank u bigfella777.....peop
le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well. It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands. The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you. It will be a big loss to the community for sure.[/p][/quote]Thank u bigfella777.....peop le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special. misshouston1986
  • Score: 13

8:20pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Bronson69 says...

An absolute dump full of people you don't want anywhere near families , there were more drugs in there than a chemist !!

Goodbye and thank goodness its gone , only trouble is the scum that frequented it will now move onto another pub and ruin it
An absolute dump full of people you don't want anywhere near families , there were more drugs in there than a chemist !! Goodbye and thank goodness its gone , only trouble is the scum that frequented it will now move onto another pub and ruin it Bronson69
  • Score: -12

8:47pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Positively4thStreet says...

cliffwalker wrote:
I have to agree with those referring to its unattractive exterior and unwelcoming appearance. I have often been in the area but have never felt tempted to try this Dracula's lair looking pub.
Where's your sense of adventure!The rough looking ones are always the most exciting to walk into,that slightslight feeling of trepidation as you open the door,and it all goes quiet,and the whole room stares at you . ;0)
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with those referring to its unattractive exterior and unwelcoming appearance. I have often been in the area but have never felt tempted to try this Dracula's lair looking pub.[/p][/quote]Where's your sense of adventure!The rough looking ones are always the most exciting to walk into,that slightslight feeling of trepidation as you open the door,and it all goes quiet,and the whole room stares at you . ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 7

9:30pm Fri 17 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

Bronson69 wrote:
An absolute dump full of people you don't want anywhere near families , there were more drugs in there than a chemist !!

Goodbye and thank goodness its gone , only trouble is the scum that frequented it will now move onto another pub and ruin it
used to think it was something to do with a new pope ,all the smoke wafting out .
[quote][p][bold]Bronson69[/bold] wrote: An absolute dump full of people you don't want anywhere near families , there were more drugs in there than a chemist !! Goodbye and thank goodness its gone , only trouble is the scum that frequented it will now move onto another pub and ruin it[/p][/quote]used to think it was something to do with a new pope ,all the smoke wafting out . WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: -6

9:30pm Fri 17 Jan 14

mack chinnon says...

Proper pub. Will be missed.
Proper pub. Will be missed. mack chinnon
  • Score: 4

9:57pm Fri 17 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Allow me to translate: we want it to continue as a pub = we want 'landmark' flats to be built in its place.
Allow me to translate: we want it to continue as a pub = we want 'landmark' flats to be built in its place. 03alpe01
  • Score: 6

11:03pm Fri 17 Jan 14

mike coll says...

I used to be a regular 25 odd years ago as my then girlfriend worked there, on a trip back to the U.K in 2011 my now wife and I popped in for a pint, it was dire, filthy glasses, bad beer, had to walk over the broken glass on the steps outside before we got in.
Frankly I am surprised it has lasted this long, cant see it ever re opening unless 100k is spent on it and no one in their right mind would throw 100k at this place, they would never get their money back.
Glad I have a choice of good ex pat pubs in Zurich to choose from.
I used to be a regular 25 odd years ago as my then girlfriend worked there, on a trip back to the U.K in 2011 my now wife and I popped in for a pint, it was dire, filthy glasses, bad beer, had to walk over the broken glass on the steps outside before we got in. Frankly I am surprised it has lasted this long, cant see it ever re opening unless 100k is spent on it and no one in their right mind would throw 100k at this place, they would never get their money back. Glad I have a choice of good ex pat pubs in Zurich to choose from. mike coll
  • Score: 3

11:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

I managed the Angel in Palmerston Road before it was sold off by the brewery to I believe Inntrepeneur, which is probably an old name for Enterprise Inns. I only found out from the new licensee that Intrepeneur had paid a lot less for the pub than I had offered so someone was taking brown envelopes. That manager at least ran the pub properly but after he went the pub went down hill and got into a disgusting flthy state. I have been in a few months ago and another new licensee seemed to be trying to get on top of it. If we want to keep decent pubs in Southampton we need to get rid of Enterprise Inns.
I managed the Angel in Palmerston Road before it was sold off by the brewery to I believe Inntrepeneur, which is probably an old name for Enterprise Inns. I only found out from the new licensee that Intrepeneur had paid a lot less for the pub than I had offered so someone was taking brown envelopes. That manager at least ran the pub properly but after he went the pub went down hill and got into a disgusting flthy state. I have been in a few months ago and another new licensee seemed to be trying to get on top of it. If we want to keep decent pubs in Southampton we need to get rid of Enterprise Inns. Inform Al
  • Score: 12

6:56am Sat 18 Jan 14

WECOMING4U says...

The demise of the pub is getting worse as each week passes. 20 years from now we will be building new family pubs as we realise they are part of the community. Funny how big supermarkets closed down little corner shops, now little tesco/sainsburys express/locals will start to close down big supermarkets. These sites will probably be where the new pubs in 20 years will be built.
The demise of the pub is getting worse as each week passes. 20 years from now we will be building new family pubs as we realise they are part of the community. Funny how big supermarkets closed down little corner shops, now little tesco/sainsburys express/locals will start to close down big supermarkets. These sites will probably be where the new pubs in 20 years will be built. WECOMING4U
  • Score: 4

1:24pm Sat 18 Jan 14

dollybox says...

misshouston1986 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well.
It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands.
The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you.
It will be a big loss to the community for sure.
Thank u bigfella777.....peop

le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special.
Ian was a top landlord, hard working and generous to all his customers. He did brillint Sunday dinners , kept a good pint and always served you with a smile and genuine respect. He will be sorely missed
[quote][p][bold]misshouston1986[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well. It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands. The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you. It will be a big loss to the community for sure.[/p][/quote]Thank u bigfella777.....peop le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special.[/p][/quote]Ian was a top landlord, hard working and generous to all his customers. He did brillint Sunday dinners , kept a good pint and always served you with a smile and genuine respect. He will be sorely missed dollybox
  • Score: 13

2:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

naughtyeyes says...

well I don't have th emoney that enterprise inns want for this pub but I would be happy to run it...music/disco/kar
aoke/darts/pool/good beer and company....get the paint brushes out and give it a make over lol ....but people like me don't ge tthese sort of chances
well I don't have th emoney that enterprise inns want for this pub but I would be happy to run it...music/disco/kar aoke/darts/pool/good beer and company....get the paint brushes out and give it a make over lol ....but people like me don't ge tthese sort of chances naughtyeyes
  • Score: 4

6:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ShakeyWiffles says...

Harrysdog wrote:
Drive past it every day to work, this has to be one of the most filthy looking pubs in Southampton, doubt if a single penny has been spent on maintenance of the building. I did notice that they were offering B&B rooms, I can only imagine what they look like....
If you actually care to research on Enterprise you have to pay for any upgrades yourself and in turn? The put the rent up. We were made bankrupt twice, the second time we had leaks so that it was raining indoors but if we did anything to improve the interior they'd charge us more. It's a like it or lump it situation I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: Drive past it every day to work, this has to be one of the most filthy looking pubs in Southampton, doubt if a single penny has been spent on maintenance of the building. I did notice that they were offering B&B rooms, I can only imagine what they look like....[/p][/quote]If you actually care to research on Enterprise you have to pay for any upgrades yourself and in turn? The put the rent up. We were made bankrupt twice, the second time we had leaks so that it was raining indoors but if we did anything to improve the interior they'd charge us more. It's a like it or lump it situation I'm afraid. ShakeyWiffles
  • Score: 7

9:32pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Saint fans says...

Had many good times in the BP especially on a weekend with the local bands that Ian supported over the years, we met some great people. We would like to thank Ian for always making us welcome, he always served a good pint. A clever magician on the side, it was a shame he could not make Enterprise disappear. So Come on Enterprise time to invest in the pub you have neglected for many years. Bitterne Park Triangle is gradually dying and now with the possible loss of the pub it will affect the trade of the remaining struggling businesses even more.
Had many good times in the BP especially on a weekend with the local bands that Ian supported over the years, we met some great people. We would like to thank Ian for always making us welcome, he always served a good pint. A clever magician on the side, it was a shame he could not make Enterprise disappear. So Come on Enterprise time to invest in the pub you have neglected for many years. Bitterne Park Triangle is gradually dying and now with the possible loss of the pub it will affect the trade of the remaining struggling businesses even more. Saint fans
  • Score: 10

3:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Laur1234 says...

Ian and his wife where genuinely lovely people, always welcoming! As for the "undesirable exterior" who goes to a pub to admire the building you go for the social aspect and that is one thing you couldn't fault!
Ian and his wife where genuinely lovely people, always welcoming! As for the "undesirable exterior" who goes to a pub to admire the building you go for the social aspect and that is one thing you couldn't fault! Laur1234
  • Score: 8

8:27pm Wed 22 Jan 14

dtokez says...

misshouston1986 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well.
It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands.
The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you.
It will be a big loss to the community for sure.
Thank u bigfella777.....peop

le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special.
Bricks and mortar don't you mean hahaha
[quote][p][bold]misshouston1986[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian was a top landlord who worked his socks off 16 hours a day for the last 20 odd years as well as bringing 5 children up and surviving cancer, he was a gentleman and a proper comedian as well. It was a proper old school boozer, yes there have been plenty of dust ups in there but also a lot of really good times. There was always live entertainment at weekends and it supported local bands. The pub had bags of character not like when you walk into a bland Wetherspoons and wait for ten minutes for some miserable student to serve you. It will be a big loss to the community for sure.[/p][/quote]Thank u bigfella777.....peop le need to see the bigger picture.....the bp is just bricks and water.....our family, the locals and the good times we all had in there r wot make that pub so special.[/p][/quote]Bricks and mortar don't you mean hahaha dtokez
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Footso says...

A typical smattering of ill-informed and smug comments, upon a subject they know little or nothing about. The people that really knew the BP, know that it was a good old-fashioned boozer, run by a super landlord. A proper gent, as you said, bigfella.

One should not judge a book by its cover, especially when the PubCo that are responsible for that "cover" were only keen on grabbing their rent, and not spending a penny on the place. Those people posting positive comments, know that Ian ran a good pub, that real people liked to visit. Good luck to him and his family. They are decent folk, and like many, deserved better treatment that they were given by Enterprise Inns.
A typical smattering of ill-informed and smug comments, upon a subject they know little or nothing about. The people that really knew the BP, know that it was a good old-fashioned boozer, run by a super landlord. A proper gent, as you said, bigfella. One should not judge a book by its cover, especially when the PubCo that are responsible for that "cover" were only keen on grabbing their rent, and not spending a penny on the place. Those people posting positive comments, know that Ian ran a good pub, that real people liked to visit. Good luck to him and his family. They are decent folk, and like many, deserved better treatment that they were given by Enterprise Inns. Footso
  • Score: 9

12:58pm Thu 23 Jan 14

garethsmith72 says...

It will be interesting to see how many of the regulars use the new micro pub (The Butchers Hook) that's due to open in the triangle.
It will be interesting to see how many of the regulars use the new micro pub (The Butchers Hook) that's due to open in the triangle. garethsmith72
  • Score: 4

11:48am Wed 29 Jan 14

danrichardson says...

I'm one of the guys involved in the new Micropub in the triangle. Although I was never a regular in the BP I know from the locals that Ian was a very hard working and respected guy. It's very easy to turn your nose up at the crumbling old pubs all over the UK and scapegoat the publicans for not tidying the place up. But the fact is in the hands of a Pubco it is impossibly difficult to make a living as a pub landlord. These people work twice the hours and for half the pay that most of us manage on and should be respected for that. If you really want these pubs to improve and have a chance of staying open don't just criticise people stick you name on here and help get rid of the real problem http://www.pubscanda
l.org.uk/
I'm one of the guys involved in the new Micropub in the triangle. Although I was never a regular in the BP I know from the locals that Ian was a very hard working and respected guy. It's very easy to turn your nose up at the crumbling old pubs all over the UK and scapegoat the publicans for not tidying the place up. But the fact is in the hands of a Pubco it is impossibly difficult to make a living as a pub landlord. These people work twice the hours and for half the pay that most of us manage on and should be respected for that. If you really want these pubs to improve and have a chance of staying open don't just criticise people stick you name on here and help get rid of the real problem http://www.pubscanda l.org.uk/ danrichardson
  • Score: 6

3:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

halfbrain says...

A shame it's gone, always a friendly place with a good cheap pint and a good vibe.

I liked the garden too.

All the best to Ian and co.
A shame it's gone, always a friendly place with a good cheap pint and a good vibe. I liked the garden too. All the best to Ian and co. halfbrain
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Saint fans says...

Great news that the BP could be open again within a couple of weeks. Check out new landlord comments on Bitterne Park info web site under latest news, Sounds promising.
Great news that the BP could be open again within a couple of weeks. Check out new landlord comments on Bitterne Park info web site under latest news, Sounds promising. Saint fans
  • Score: 2

2:33am Sat 1 Feb 14

misshouston1986 says...

Gutted that our dad's pub that he worked his **** off for 21years is cumin under scrutiny from people that hav never stepped in the place. My dad welcomed every individual with open arms, had many a drama in there but stil every day kept his regulars happy. Our dad ran a pub that for alot of people was more than a pub, it was there home and dad and our family were all that they had. Our dad raised money evry year for toys for the childrens wars in thehospital and regularly dun fundraisers to raise money for the cancer wars that took care of his mother. These r just a few of the things he done over the 21years he had the pub. Maybe a few of u need to realise this b4 slagging such a good man off.
Gutted that our dad's pub that he worked his **** off for 21years is cumin under scrutiny from people that hav never stepped in the place. My dad welcomed every individual with open arms, had many a drama in there but stil every day kept his regulars happy. Our dad ran a pub that for alot of people was more than a pub, it was there home and dad and our family were all that they had. Our dad raised money evry year for toys for the childrens wars in thehospital and regularly dun fundraisers to raise money for the cancer wars that took care of his mother. These r just a few of the things he done over the 21years he had the pub. Maybe a few of u need to realise this b4 slagging such a good man off. misshouston1986
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

misshouston1986 wrote:
Gutted that our dad's pub that he worked his **** off for 21years is cumin under scrutiny from people that hav never stepped in the place. My dad welcomed every individual with open arms, had many a drama in there but stil every day kept his regulars happy. Our dad ran a pub that for alot of people was more than a pub, it was there home and dad and our family were all that they had. Our dad raised money evry year for toys for the childrens wars in thehospital and regularly dun fundraisers to raise money for the cancer wars that took care of his mother. These r just a few of the things he done over the 21years he had the pub. Maybe a few of u need to realise this b4 slagging such a good man off.
Unfortunately there are far too many cretins in the area with no life who think it clever to slag off everyone they can. It is also unfortunate that most of them just sit in front of their PCs all their waking hours, like many of those who post on this site seem to do.
[quote][p][bold]misshouston1986[/bold] wrote: Gutted that our dad's pub that he worked his **** off for 21years is cumin under scrutiny from people that hav never stepped in the place. My dad welcomed every individual with open arms, had many a drama in there but stil every day kept his regulars happy. Our dad ran a pub that for alot of people was more than a pub, it was there home and dad and our family were all that they had. Our dad raised money evry year for toys for the childrens wars in thehospital and regularly dun fundraisers to raise money for the cancer wars that took care of his mother. These r just a few of the things he done over the 21years he had the pub. Maybe a few of u need to realise this b4 slagging such a good man off.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately there are far too many cretins in the area with no life who think it clever to slag off everyone they can. It is also unfortunate that most of them just sit in front of their PCs all their waking hours, like many of those who post on this site seem to do. Inform Al
  • Score: 4

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