£1.6m to be spent on new homes in Southampton

£1.6m to be spent on new homes in Southampton

£1.6m to be spent on new homes in Southampton

First published in News

MORE than £1.6m could be spent on new affordable housing in Southampton.

Labour city council bosses have £1.68m of funding raised from sales through the Right to Buy scheme which must be used to build new homes.

The money had been earmarked for use on a £10m overhaul of the Erskine Court sheltered housing facility.

But a change in Government rules means it cannot be used alongside Housing Revenue Account money – council house rent – which forms part of the funding for the work at Erskine Court.

Therefore the council will work alongside housing associations in the city to look at opportunities to build new affordable housing with the funding.

The associations would be expected to fund 70 per cent of any new development, with the remaining 30 per cent being funded by the council cash.

Comments (28)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

12:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

southy says...

Handing state money over to the private sector
Handing state money over to the private sector southy
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Sun 19 Jan 14

befriendly says...

southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Prove your socialism by forming a collective (company) with all your like thinking cronies, bid for the work and build the houses without making any profit.
You're always on about people making profits and we the people might take you more seriously and vote for you if you actually did something to prove your way was better instead of sitting in your ivory tower moaning.

Nothing limits intelligence more than ignorance; nothing fosters ignorance more than one's own opinions; nothing strengthens opinions more than refusing to look at reality.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Prove your socialism by forming a collective (company) with all your like thinking cronies, bid for the work and build the houses without making any profit. You're always on about people making profits and we the people might take you more seriously and vote for you if you actually did something to prove your way was better instead of sitting in your ivory tower moaning. Nothing limits intelligence more than ignorance; nothing fosters ignorance more than one's own opinions; nothing strengthens opinions more than refusing to look at reality. befriendly
  • Score: 2

12:43pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

This money comes from the sale of council houses, in a real world it would go into the housing revenue account, just more evidence of council tenants still being taxed through their rents.
This money comes from the sale of council houses, in a real world it would go into the housing revenue account, just more evidence of council tenants still being taxed through their rents. Inform Al
  • Score: 4

1:08pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

so all these anti selling of council homes & now look people get to own the property they live in so making it their home & now that money or at least a percentage of it goes to build hopefully ECO homes as built under the Tory council or will it just be more flats?
so all these anti selling of council homes & now look people get to own the property they live in so making it their home & now that money or at least a percentage of it goes to build hopefully ECO homes as built under the Tory council or will it just be more flats? loosehead
  • Score: -2

1:10pm Sun 19 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

1.6 million? What will that build once it's put out to tender, a shed?
1.6 million? What will that build once it's put out to tender, a shed? bigfella777
  • Score: 3

1:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

pyan says...

southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth
er tower-with-a-penthou
se private speculators...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators... pyan
  • Score: 4

2:08pm Sun 19 Jan 14

southy says...

pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth

er tower-with-a-penthou

se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
[quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list southy
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth


er tower-with-a-penthou


se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
Cor Blimey Southy, we finally agree on something.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]Cor Blimey Southy, we finally agree on something. Inform Al
  • Score: 2

2:25pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

bigfella777 wrote:
1.6 million? What will that build once it's put out to tender, a shed?
Probably about 8 houses
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: 1.6 million? What will that build once it's put out to tender, a shed?[/p][/quote]Probably about 8 houses Inform Al
  • Score: 2

3:09pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth


er tower-with-a-penthou


se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council loosehead
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth



er tower-with-a-penthou



se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

3:25pm Sun 19 Jan 14

pyan says...

southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth


er tower-with-a-penthou


se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
Southy said:
"What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit,"

...which is all ploughed back into more new homes, disabled conversions, etc, etc.
There's no shareholders to demand dividends, or owners to keep in luxury. Where in your fantasy world does the "profit" go?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]Southy said: "What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit," ...which is all ploughed back into more new homes, disabled conversions, etc, etc. There's no shareholders to demand dividends, or owners to keep in luxury. Where in your fantasy world does the "profit" go? pyan
  • Score: -2

3:34pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth




er tower-with-a-penthou




se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live? loosehead
  • Score: -2

3:47pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth





er tower-with-a-penthou





se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren Inform Al
  • Score: 1

5:33pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth






er tower-with-a-penthou






se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes? loosehead
  • Score: -1

5:45pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth







er tower-with-a-penthou







se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth








er tower-with-a-penthou








se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it? loosehead
  • Score: -1

6:12pm Sun 19 Jan 14

jackois says...

I'll be interested to see how many they manage to build, given the mess Councils usually make of any tendering process they are involved in.
I'll be interested to see how many they manage to build, given the mess Councils usually make of any tendering process they are involved in. jackois
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth









er tower-with-a-penthou









se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

7:00pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth









er tower-with-a-penthou









se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

8:52pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth










er tower-with-a-penthou










se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth











er tower-with-a-penthou











se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

6:41am Mon 20 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth












er tower-with-a-penthou












se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties loosehead
  • Score: 0

8:22am Mon 20 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth













er tower-with-a-penthou













se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties[/p][/quote]And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

11:44am Mon 20 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth














er tower-with-a-penthou














se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.
rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend.
more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class.
hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay?
45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands.
it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties[/p][/quote]And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.[/p][/quote]rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend. more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class. hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay? 45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands. it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now? loosehead
  • Score: 0

12:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth















er tower-with-a-penthou















se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.
rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend.
more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class.
hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay?
45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands.
it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?
Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties[/p][/quote]And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.[/p][/quote]rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend. more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class. hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay? 45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands. it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?[/p][/quote]Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

3:24pm Mon 20 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth
















er tower-with-a-penthou
















se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.
rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend.
more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class.
hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay?
45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands.
it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?
Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course.
So the floods are caused by the New Laws on Gay marriages are they? according to a UKIP parish councillor they are?
Okay he's been suspended but this is the party that you say will win at the next election?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties[/p][/quote]And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.[/p][/quote]rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend. more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class. hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay? 45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands. it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?[/p][/quote]Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course.[/p][/quote]So the floods are caused by the New Laws on Gay marriages are they? according to a UKIP parish councillor they are? Okay he's been suspended but this is the party that you say will win at the next election? loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
pyan wrote:
southy wrote:
Handing state money over to the private sector
Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth

















er tower-with-a-penthou

















se private speculators...
What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list
their own money? so exactly where does that money come from?
if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that?
As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if.
1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house.
2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed.
Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council?
Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council
We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.
no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available.
Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you?
I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home.
Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy?
There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me,
move those who can afford to buy,
move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them .
OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on?
no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?
G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren
you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes!
You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built?
It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?
Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.
did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?
You should know.
only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it.
Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for.
why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks?
He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices.
it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing.
now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices?
at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off .
This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you
Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.
try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP.
I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties
And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.
rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend.
more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class.
hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay?
45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands.
it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?
Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course.
So the floods are caused by the New Laws on Gay marriages are they? according to a UKIP parish councillor they are?
Okay he's been suspended but this is the party that you say will win at the next election?
So a UKIP councillor is a bit iffy, at least the UKIP boss isn't. unlike the other parties.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pyan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Handing state money over to the private sector[/p][/quote]Better to go to housing associations, which are by law, non-profit making organisations, than to the let's-stick-up-anoth er tower-with-a-penthou se private speculators...[/p][/quote]What they are meant to be and what they are is different, they make a profit a fair size profit, The system set up is all wrong, councils should be allowed to build there own homes with there own money with out going to government and asking permission councils should be allowed to maintain a level equal to there waiting list[/p][/quote]their own money? so exactly where does that money come from? if your talking about the money received on the sell of council houses I thought you & other posters were against that? As proven on this website before the so called waiting list would be no where as large as it is if. 1/ people who could quite easily buy in the private sector did just that & freed up a council house. 2/ all the people working or on welfare who are council tenants did what it states on the homebid contract & told of changes to their circumstances then families waiting for 2/3/4 bedroomed properties could be housed. Southy & Inform Al the problem there is with housing is these are COUNCIL properties they're not the tenants hence the word "tenant" put tenants in the right size accommodation for example a married couple no kids to old for kids it's a one bedroomed flat & a single person it's a studio flat these are council rules yet how many people are moved? how many people put themselves down on Home bid for a transfer to a property which fits the guidelines of the council? Don't please give me this rubbish it's a family home as it isn't it belongs to the council[/p][/quote]We live in a society where it is almost impossible for the ordinary working man to afford to buy his own home, thanks to every government since Maggies, yet you very unrealistically want to denigrate them. Every family should be entitled to their home for life, and their childrens. not just the rich or lucky. And it is tenants money that has completely financed these homes, not yours, not the council's, it's totally tenant financed.[/p][/quote]no one is entitled to a property that's owned by the city after all we're the owners & if they no longer such a size a smaller one can be made available. Your becoming a bit of a joke aren't you? I am on a company pension I earn after tax £16,000 a year & guess what I'm buying my home. Now come on mixed up voter why is it I could drive you around council estates & show you families with brand new BMW's & the likes who go on holidays yet are in homes for those that can't afford to buy? There's the word CAN'T afford to buy if your saying they can't & all council tenants are so poor they CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY your the one putting them down not me, move those who can afford to buy, move those who are in properties far larger than the councils own rules say they should have & give the houses up to rent to families who need them . OH! RENT doesn't mean buy RENT doesn't mean you own it or it becomes your families possession or are you saying when they signed up to Home Bid they were told here you are a three bedroomed property for you then your kids then there kids & so on? no your housed in a property that suits your needs at that time if those needs or circumstances change you are legally(contract) obliged to tell the housing office & suitable accommodation will be found this is the contract all council tenants sign so why try making out it isn't? where do you live?[/p][/quote]G'morons take on affordable housing is to saddle home buyers with a massive mortgage. Should that person lose his job he will lose his home. Makes sense at a time that jobs are getting very scarce not to take the chance. If like me you bought your first home before the prices shot through the roof you are very lucky, fortunately I was able to look after my children in this respect, but am getting very concerned for the future housing needs of my grandchildren and great grandchildren[/p][/quote]you blame Cameron but I didn't see Tony Blair or Brown stopping council tenants from buying council homes! You might not have noticed the first council homes built in this city for a decade were in fact built by a Tory Council or the ECO homes they built? It's okay for Labour to bang on about the needs to build more council homes but why didn't they change the rules allowing councils to use all the monies accrued from the sell of council homes to build more new ECO friendly homes?[/p][/quote]Not being a politacal donkey I am more prepared to put the blame where it belongs than the sheep that blindly follow other parties. Every government, even Maggies, has been worse than the one before since the Churchill government. It is widely accepted that the Tories have built more council houses since the war than Labour, but that unfortunately is history. The currant lot are a menace to the ordinary working class.[/p][/quote]did you not mean to say current not currant? I was hoping one day you'd take off your donkey blinkers & see the truth but instead you call every one else the donkey nothing like the blind leading the blind is it?[/p][/quote]You should know.[/p][/quote]only one word describes you but I'm feeling happy so I won't use it. Ed Milliband has now shown he doesn't care what6 hardships he brings on the public as long as he tries to stop the governments recovery of the Economy & cutting the debt that Labour was partially to blame for. why else would he the leader of the so called working mans party talk power bills up? why else would he talk down share prices in the banks? He did it because when people hear no more power price rises for 22months people see that but then the companies say okay you freeze them if you can ( we'll fight you) but in the mean time we'll raise our prices. it's only now people realise that's what happened & if it wasn't for Cameron & Osborne cutting the green levy & paying it through alternative sources the rise would have been far higher so Thanks Ed Milliband for nothing. now he has said break up the banks so your telling me he didn't know what would happen to share prices? at a point where the banks we bailed out were getting to the point in their recovery that we could sell our interest in them & at least get our money back this idiot thinks if this government sells them lowers the debt as they said they would Labour wouldn't win an election so the idiot makes a statement hoping he's stopped any chance of the debt being slashed with the monies from the bank sell off . This government has told us from day one they're not in it to win a popularity contest but to get rid of the debt & to make us live with in our own means & if you can't see that then Labour NO the TUSC is welcome to you[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered to read all the above party political rant. When will you get it into your head that I do not sheeplike follow any political party. All three of the current main ones have let us diown badly, so as an independent thinker will give UKIP my vote next time. They certainly can't do any worse than the present coalition.[/p][/quote]try reading my posts & you'll see I vote for the party that stands a chance of winning & is best suited for my needs & at this moment that's not UKIP. I don't follow like sheep but if a party comes up with a good idea I agree with them but at this moment Labour hasn't got a clue & UKIP's anti green agenda puts me off of their parties[/p][/quote]And the current government are kicking the working class for the benefit of their rich party backers, so if the Tories are the party for you that would make you a rich person.[/p][/quote]rich backers? this really shows your blinkered. raising the tax threshold increases the money the low paid have to spend. more jobs than there has been since the war so again helping the working class. hitting the welfare state making it so to work becomes the norm & stop people making a life out of living on welfare which you seem to think is okay? 45p in the pound tax for the rich isn't putting money in their pockets the very rich who take the gamble build up a company & employ countless hundreds if not thousands. it's idiots like you in past Labour governments that drove away industry to cheaper climates or haven't you realised that now?[/p][/quote]Get real, you are the blinkred one. I do not support ant party where it has gone wrong. Whilst I agree that the party you keep knocking has in trhe past got it wrong, I also am able to see that the party that you so blindly follow is the worst party in government that we have ever had to endure. Only if you are working class of course.[/p][/quote]So the floods are caused by the New Laws on Gay marriages are they? according to a UKIP parish councillor they are? Okay he's been suspended but this is the party that you say will win at the next election?[/p][/quote]So a UKIP councillor is a bit iffy, at least the UKIP boss isn't. unlike the other parties. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree