The moment police arrested James Poole after 90mph chase through Hampshire

Daily Echo: James Poole is arrested after a high speed police chase James Poole is arrested after a high speed police chase

IT was a reckless piece of driving that put countless lives at risk.

Motorists were forced to swerve out of the way as a stolen BMW was raced through the streets of Hampshire, dodging oncoming traffic and hurtling past those in front at break-neck speed.

Pursued by police, driver James Poole put his foot down to shake them off – jumping red lights and speeding along the wrong side of the road.

The eight-mile chase came to an end only when 20-year-old Poole crashed into a school bus which had stopped at traffic lights, having failed to squeeze between it and an oncoming lorry.

The entire drama was captured on camera inside a police patrol car, Southampton Crown Court heard.

Prosecutor Edward Phillips told how PC Mark Bailey was driving an unmarked police vehicle southbound on the M3 just north of Winchester when he spotted a grey BMW undertaking another car.

Video footage Video footage played to the court showed Poole then returning to the outside lane before undercutting other vehicles.

The officer then turned on his blue lights and sirens – but Poole ignored it and carried on, accelerating and reaching speeds of up to 90mph before careering off the motorway at Winchester and hurtling down the B3335 Twyford Road.

In the car, PC Bailey’s colleague PC Tony Flatman maintained a running commentary to the police control room as Poole made no attempt to slow down. Instead, the court was told, he continued to overtake vehicles at speed and once crossed double white lines on a blind bend, miraculously not hitting anything coming from the other direction.

In Twyford, he jumped the village traffic lights at 60mph where police were forced to slow down. As they tried to catch up again, Poole continued overtaking other vehicles on the wrong side of the road, well in excess of the speed limit.

The court was told how he ignored ‘keep left’ bollards and forced oncoming motorists to pull over to avoid a crash. The pursuit finally ended when Poole tried to squeeze between stationary cars and oncoming traffic at the lights at the Fishers Pond junction before crashing into the bus.

His passengers ran off but Poole was arrested sitting in the driver’s seat.

Charges Poole, 20, of no fixed abode, admitted driving the taken car, driving dangerously, without insurance and a licence.

He also admitted stealing another BMW on a separate occasion.

Jailing him for 22 months and imposing a three-year driving ban, Recorder Nigel Lickley QC told Poole he had acted with complete disregard for the safety of other drivers and his passengers.

He said: “This case clearly crosses the custody threshold and a suspended sentence is not appropriate. You were very fortunate nobody was seriously injured.”

In mitigation, Nichola Attwood said Poole had reached a crossroads in his life and realised he had to change his ways.

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7:13am Tue 21 Jan 14

robj1969 says...

that footage shows some crazy driving....thankfull
y nobody was hurt
that footage shows some crazy driving....thankfull y nobody was hurt robj1969
  • Score: 12

7:22am Tue 21 Jan 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

worthless bellend
worthless bellend likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: 33

8:26am Tue 21 Jan 14

Higginz says...

Hats off to the Police driver - good job done.
As for the other driver - it's a shame he didn't do himself some permanent damage.
Hats off to the Police driver - good job done. As for the other driver - it's a shame he didn't do himself some permanent damage. Higginz
  • Score: 29

8:55am Tue 21 Jan 14

Big Mac says...

reached a crossroads in his life? Bet he didn't even bother to look either way.
And what happened to his passenger?
reached a crossroads in his life? Bet he didn't even bother to look either way. And what happened to his passenger? Big Mac
  • Score: 16

8:56am Tue 21 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

Higginz wrote:
Hats off to the Police driver - good job done.
As for the other driver - it's a shame he didn't do himself some permanent damage.
That would have meant damage to someone else's car though, and probably someone else's property.
[quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Hats off to the Police driver - good job done. As for the other driver - it's a shame he didn't do himself some permanent damage.[/p][/quote]That would have meant damage to someone else's car though, and probably someone else's property. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -5

9:00am Tue 21 Jan 14

wwozzer says...

This moron will be released before xmas with good behaviour, what a joke.
This moron will be released before xmas with good behaviour, what a joke. wwozzer
  • Score: 19

9:24am Tue 21 Jan 14

Huey says...

In mitigation, Nichola Attwood said Poole had reached a crossroads in his life...
Didn't see that in the video! Must have been going too fast
In mitigation, Nichola Attwood said Poole had reached a crossroads in his life... Didn't see that in the video! Must have been going too fast Huey
  • Score: 17

10:32am Tue 21 Jan 14

jackois says...

"In mitigation, Nichola Attwood said Poole had reached a crossroads in his life and realised he had to change his ways."

My favourite part of any court report... priceless!
"In mitigation, Nichola Attwood said Poole had reached a crossroads in his life and realised he had to change his ways." My favourite part of any court report... priceless! jackois
  • Score: 10

11:33am Tue 21 Jan 14

itsnotjustice says...

just watched the video.... what fantastic driving by the police... and how quick the officer on the left was out the car was perfect...

shame the courts cant be tougher on morons like him.
just watched the video.... what fantastic driving by the police... and how quick the officer on the left was out the car was perfect... shame the courts cant be tougher on morons like him. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 20

12:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

boilerman says...

The Moron should be banned for life.
Also when will courts impose proper fines for no insurance? you get honest young people who pay through the nose for insurance, it is probably cheaper to pay the fine rather than the insurance.
It makes me laugh the way the defence offer up mitigation, there was no mitigation, they stole a car , they new it was wrong and got caught.
If tougher penalties were imposed and enforced it might make people think twice.
The Moron should be banned for life. Also when will courts impose proper fines for no insurance? you get honest young people who pay through the nose for insurance, it is probably cheaper to pay the fine rather than the insurance. It makes me laugh the way the defence offer up mitigation, there was no mitigation, they stole a car , they new it was wrong and got caught. If tougher penalties were imposed and enforced it might make people think twice. boilerman
  • Score: 13

12:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

boilerman wrote:
The Moron should be banned for life.
Also when will courts impose proper fines for no insurance? you get honest young people who pay through the nose for insurance, it is probably cheaper to pay the fine rather than the insurance.
It makes me laugh the way the defence offer up mitigation, there was no mitigation, they stole a car , they new it was wrong and got caught.
If tougher penalties were imposed and enforced it might make people think twice.
There have been studies that have found that paying the fines often is cheaper than any actual insurance, £3k to fully insure a little 1.2 or 1.4 litre engined car for new drivers.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: The Moron should be banned for life. Also when will courts impose proper fines for no insurance? you get honest young people who pay through the nose for insurance, it is probably cheaper to pay the fine rather than the insurance. It makes me laugh the way the defence offer up mitigation, there was no mitigation, they stole a car , they new it was wrong and got caught. If tougher penalties were imposed and enforced it might make people think twice.[/p][/quote]There have been studies that have found that paying the fines often is cheaper than any actual insurance, £3k to fully insure a little 1.2 or 1.4 litre engined car for new drivers. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 16

12:35pm Tue 21 Jan 14

soton_resident says...

The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police. soton_resident
  • Score: -56

1:11pm Tue 21 Jan 14

kiddynamite says...

I expect the poor lad had a tough upbringing!! A few hours community service and im sure this lad will rectify his ways.
I expect the poor lad had a tough upbringing!! A few hours community service and im sure this lad will rectify his ways. kiddynamite
  • Score: -7

1:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
Heaven forbid the police should ever actually try and catch criminals. They can't win, really, can they?
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]Heaven forbid the police should ever actually try and catch criminals. They can't win, really, can they? gilbertratchet
  • Score: 30

2:15pm Tue 21 Jan 14

localnews says...

Nicked the car,drove like a right tool and had no Licence or insurance,I bet that 3yr driving ban has terrified him,22 months should've been at least 5 years with no chance of early release
Nicked the car,drove like a right tool and had no Licence or insurance,I bet that 3yr driving ban has terrified him,22 months should've been at least 5 years with no chance of early release localnews
  • Score: 19

2:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Eric Pickles says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
As you say, he certainly wasn't an angel. How do you suggest the Police stop him then. Ask the village bobby up the road to wave him down with a red flag ? Plonker !
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]As you say, he certainly wasn't an angel. How do you suggest the Police stop him then. Ask the village bobby up the road to wave him down with a red flag ? Plonker ! Eric Pickles
  • Score: 19

2:19pm Tue 21 Jan 14

camerajuan says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
I somehow think you've missed the point!
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]I somehow think you've missed the point! camerajuan
  • Score: 15

2:54pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Brock_and_Roll says...

Something slightly odd here - the report states that the passengers ran off, but the video quite clearly shows the driver being nicked as well as one of the passengers who is buddle to the ground and presumably cuffed with no chance of escape....
Something slightly odd here - the report states that the passengers ran off, but the video quite clearly shows the driver being nicked as well as one of the passengers who is buddle to the ground and presumably cuffed with no chance of escape.... Brock_and_Roll
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Tue 21 Jan 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
you dunce
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]you dunce likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: 13

3:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

B. L. says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
you dunce
I can think of a better description than that.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]you dunce[/p][/quote]I can think of a better description than that. B. L.
  • Score: 5

4:12pm Tue 21 Jan 14

vpharm says...

he should be jailled for 10 years & given a 10 year driving ban to srat when he gets out of jail & should be banned from climing benefits as well!

give him the snip so he cant breed
he should be jailled for 10 years & given a 10 year driving ban to srat when he gets out of jail & should be banned from climing benefits as well! give him the snip so he cant breed vpharm
  • Score: 4

4:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

A-non1 says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
If your car was stolen, or your house burgled I have no doubt you would be sharing your views on how terrible the police are, how your taxes fund them blah blah blah boring unfounded nonsense.

Equally if you were to ever contravene the speed limit- (which I'm sure an expert driver like you would not) and be issues with a NIP or fixed penalty ticket would you be wanting the police to go and catch 'burglars and real criminals).

In this case the police are doing just that- striking a fine and ever moving balance between keeping the public safe and detaining an offender. From this footage the police driver seems to do a fantastic job- as does his colleague in safely detaining the suspects.

I'm sure you too would have made the correct decision in a split second and expected criticism for doing the right thing.
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]If your car was stolen, or your house burgled I have no doubt you would be sharing your views on how terrible the police are, how your taxes fund them blah blah blah boring unfounded nonsense. Equally if you were to ever contravene the speed limit- (which I'm sure an expert driver like you would not) and be issues with a NIP or fixed penalty ticket would you be wanting the police to go and catch 'burglars and real criminals). In this case the police are doing just that- striking a fine and ever moving balance between keeping the public safe and detaining an offender. From this footage the police driver seems to do a fantastic job- as does his colleague in safely detaining the suspects. I'm sure you too would have made the correct decision in a split second and expected criticism for doing the right thing. A-non1
  • Score: 11

5:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

soton34 says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
Whilst reading the article and BEFORE reading the posts I thought how long will it take for someone to make an ill thought out comment of 'prosecute the Police driver'. Guess first prize goes to you then! Whilst you give almost every possible 'what if scenario' you fail to state in your opinion what the Police should do when the dregs of society do as they please and steal others property? Personally I don't want our Police to sit back and do nothing because of the 100% risk adverse brigade. I want them to try and catch the criminals in as safe a manner as possible. No Police chase will be 100% safe and I do not support a chase at any cost. The video shows a high degree of driving by the Police officer and just remember Poole (BMW driver) was making his own decisions. How do you know he wouldn't have driven recklessly without the Police behind him? Poole demonstrated his dangerous driving which alerted the Police to him in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]Whilst reading the article and BEFORE reading the posts I thought how long will it take for someone to make an ill thought out comment of 'prosecute the Police driver'. Guess first prize goes to you then! Whilst you give almost every possible 'what if scenario' you fail to state in your opinion what the Police should do when the dregs of society do as they please and steal others property? Personally I don't want our Police to sit back and do nothing because of the 100% risk adverse brigade. I want them to try and catch the criminals in as safe a manner as possible. No Police chase will be 100% safe and I do not support a chase at any cost. The video shows a high degree of driving by the Police officer and just remember Poole (BMW driver) was making his own decisions. How do you know he wouldn't have driven recklessly without the Police behind him? Poole demonstrated his dangerous driving which alerted the Police to him in the first place. soton34
  • Score: 12

5:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

soton34 says...

A-non1 wrote:
soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
If your car was stolen, or your house burgled I have no doubt you would be sharing your views on how terrible the police are, how your taxes fund them blah blah blah boring unfounded nonsense.

Equally if you were to ever contravene the speed limit- (which I'm sure an expert driver like you would not) and be issues with a NIP or fixed penalty ticket would you be wanting the police to go and catch 'burglars and real criminals).

In this case the police are doing just that- striking a fine and ever moving balance between keeping the public safe and detaining an offender. From this footage the police driver seems to do a fantastic job- as does his colleague in safely detaining the suspects.

I'm sure you too would have made the correct decision in a split second and expected criticism for doing the right thing.
A-non1. I should have just quoted you! Good point well made :)
[quote][p][bold]A-non1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]If your car was stolen, or your house burgled I have no doubt you would be sharing your views on how terrible the police are, how your taxes fund them blah blah blah boring unfounded nonsense. Equally if you were to ever contravene the speed limit- (which I'm sure an expert driver like you would not) and be issues with a NIP or fixed penalty ticket would you be wanting the police to go and catch 'burglars and real criminals). In this case the police are doing just that- striking a fine and ever moving balance between keeping the public safe and detaining an offender. From this footage the police driver seems to do a fantastic job- as does his colleague in safely detaining the suspects. I'm sure you too would have made the correct decision in a split second and expected criticism for doing the right thing.[/p][/quote]A-non1. I should have just quoted you! Good point well made :) soton34
  • Score: 4

6:06pm Tue 21 Jan 14

MisterTom says...

Im surprised the police are allow to chase cars at 90mph (due to endangering others) normally they get someone in the air to follow the crooks, then grab them once they located the base.
Im surprised the police are allow to chase cars at 90mph (due to endangering others) normally they get someone in the air to follow the crooks, then grab them once they located the base. MisterTom
  • Score: -5

7:52pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Snowfox84 says...

wwozzer wrote:
This moron will be released before xmas with good behaviour, what a joke.
Why they didn't blur the undercover car's number plate in the top left hand corner of the video is beyond me.

@wwozzer: Half-way release is automatic and not dependent on good behaviour.

@soton_resident: Not your emotive Helen Lovejoy nonsense again.

@MisterTom: I think you watch too much RoadWars!

@localnews and vpharm: Agreed , 22 months was a joke of a sentence. Unfortunately, our legislators don't treat it seriously enough with a maximum sentence for dangerous driving being a miserly 2 years.
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: This moron will be released before xmas with good behaviour, what a joke.[/p][/quote]Why they didn't blur the undercover car's number plate in the top left hand corner of the video is beyond me. @wwozzer: Half-way release is automatic and not dependent on good behaviour. @soton_resident: Not your emotive Helen Lovejoy nonsense again. @MisterTom: I think you watch too much RoadWars! @localnews and vpharm: Agreed , 22 months was a joke of a sentence. Unfortunately, our legislators don't treat it seriously enough with a maximum sentence for dangerous driving being a miserly 2 years. Snowfox84
  • Score: 3

8:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Down to Earth & Sensible says...

It is about time this "Manmby-Pamby" approach to these types of incidents were stopped. Society need to "toughen up" and bring back the death sentence. That is the only way that Idiots like this will actually acknowledge that behavior like this will not be tolerated.
It is about time this "Manmby-Pamby" approach to these types of incidents were stopped. Society need to "toughen up" and bring back the death sentence. That is the only way that Idiots like this will actually acknowledge that behavior like this will not be tolerated. Down to Earth & Sensible
  • Score: 2

8:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

elvisimo says...

soton_resident wrote:
The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle.

Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.
Genius
[quote][p][bold]soton_resident[/bold] wrote: The Police driver should be taken to Court for dangerous driving! Up to 81mph in a built up part of Colden Common, houses either side of the road and a pavement less than 2 metres wide. What if a child ran into the road? A pushchair or pram rolled off the pavement? The stopping distance alone (assuming 0.00m/secs thinking time) is 106 yards or 97 metres. That's over 22 car lengths! The Police drivers may have extensive training but that doesn't reduce the stopping distance of the vehicle. Would the moron in the stolen BMW have driven at the speed he did if he didn't have a Police car with 'blues and twos' chasing him? I doubt it. He certainly wasn't an angel having drawn attention to himself by undertaking but I can't believe that he would have driven at 81mph through Colden Common if he thought he'd not been spotted by the Police.[/p][/quote]Genius elvisimo
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8:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

westhantsboy says...

That's quality driving by the Police officer. In control at all time to take worthless idiots off our streets. Well done
That's quality driving by the Police officer. In control at all time to take worthless idiots off our streets. Well done westhantsboy
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11:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dolomiteman says...

westhantsboy wrote:
That's quality driving by the Police officer. In control at all time to take worthless idiots off our streets. Well done
Agreed.
I amazed how quickly Tony was out of the car.
[quote][p][bold]westhantsboy[/bold] wrote: That's quality driving by the Police officer. In control at all time to take worthless idiots off our streets. Well done[/p][/quote]Agreed. I amazed how quickly Tony was out of the car. dolomiteman
  • Score: 3

4:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

B. L. says...

MisterTom wrote:
Im surprised the police are allow to chase cars at 90mph (due to endangering others) normally they get someone in the air to follow the crooks, then grab them once they located the base.
It's Hampshire Police not L.A. County Sheriff's Department. Where do you think all these available helicopters are based ?
[quote][p][bold]MisterTom[/bold] wrote: Im surprised the police are allow to chase cars at 90mph (due to endangering others) normally they get someone in the air to follow the crooks, then grab them once they located the base.[/p][/quote]It's Hampshire Police not L.A. County Sheriff's Department. Where do you think all these available helicopters are based ? B. L.
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