Mum's nightmare as Valentine Junior School in Southampton 'loses' eight-year-old pupil

School 'loses' eight-year-old pupil

School 'loses' eight-year-old pupil

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A POLICE search was carried out after a mum arrived to collect her eight-year-old daughter from school – to find she had vanished.

Panic-stricken Krystle Singleton and police officers spent 45 minutes looking for eight-year-old Scarlett before she was found half a mile away – having walked alone to her grandmother’s home in the dark.

It is the latest incident at Valentine Primary School in Southampton to infuriate a group of parents who have handed in a petition demanding action.

However, despite repeated requests for comments about what has happened, both the school and Southampton City Council’s education bosses have refused to answer questions from the Daily Echo.

Mrs Singleton, 27, remains furious with staff at the school who she says have failed to apologise for letting her daughter go on Monday afternoon.

Recalling what happened, she said: “I went in and said: ‘I’m here for Scarlett’ and they said all the children had already gone. They didn’t have a clue where she was and I couldn’t believe it so I called the police.”

She added: “It turns out Scarlett went out via the back gate. The police and I were looking for her for 45 minutes. When we found her I just collapsed; the police had to drive me home because my legs had turned to jelly. I never want to experience anything like that again in my life.

“This morning I went into the school to complain and no one has even said sorry.”

The incident comes in the wake of a group of angry mums handing a petition to head teacher Diane Hobbs at the Valentine Avenue school.

More than 80 parents have signed the document, stating their unhappiness with the school and the way it is being run. Many others say they have written letters of complaint.

Concerns include children being left on dark pathways following after-school clubs rather than the main entrance. Others said they were unhappy with communication and leadership before and after this month’s merger.

The merger came after Heathfield Junior was found to have serious weaknesses in an Ofsted inspection in January 2013, although the new school retains Valentine’s previous good grade.

Children at Heathfield have had three head teachers in the past year.

Billy Davies left last summer to be temporarily replaced by Fair Isle Junior School head Peter Howard. In November, Diane Hobbs took on the role – initially running both schools before they merged, leaving her in charge of 500 pupils.

There is set to be further change at the Valentine Avenue school this April when she retires.

The school was also the scene of a brawl between a pair of mums in December last year, resulting in police being called and a 30-year-old woman being cautioned.

Patricia Herbert, of Sholing, whose seven-year-old son Ryan is in Year 3, said: “After-school clubs are a major concern. Children are left out by a side hall rather than the main office and with the weather we have had it means they are in the dark with no shelter.”

Rachel Ralph, who commutes from Woolston to bring her seven-year-old daughter Kacey to school, added: “My little girl came to me in tears to tell me she had to change class because her teacher was leaving.

“We have to find this out through our children and they have no idea what is going on with the merger.”

The school sent out a newsletter detailing the merger and head teacher changes in November but parents claim they have heard little since.

Despite repeated attempts by the Daily Echo to put parents' concerns to the school, the head teacher has not responded.

Instead the city council released the following statement without consideration of the specific complaints, and did not respond to further request for comment after Scarlett went missing.

The statement said: “The head teacher is not available for interview.

Heathfield Junior School closed and Valentine Infant School expanded to form Valentine Primary School in January 2014.

“Diane Hobbs became head teacher of the primary school following on from her leadership of Valentine Infant School which was rated as 'good' by Ofsted. This also gives a smooth transition to the primary school for the staff and pupils.

“Diane Hobbs is due to retire in Easter 2014 meaning that the school has just started the recruitment process to find a new head teacher, something which parents have been kept updated on through regular correspondence.

“In addition to this, the school operates an 'open door' policy for parents through which any parent can arrange to meet with the head teacher, senior management team or any other members of staff to discuss any aspect of their child's education and welfare at the school.”

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8:59am Wed 22 Jan 14

Lockssmart says...

You can never advise a teacher. They know everything.
You can never advise a teacher. They know everything. Lockssmart
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9:28am Wed 22 Jan 14

Heathfield Mum says...

That explains why parents got 40 minutes notice yesterday that after school clubs were cancelled.

I love the bit where Mrs Hobbs has an open door policy. Hahaha. Got to get passed the guard dogs first, and she is semi retired so never there!

When she is she ignores you. I have tried to get an appointment on numerous occasion! What a joke.

The attitude of the reception staff is to treat parents like something they found at the bottom of their shoes.

Bring back the receptionists at the Upper School, never had those sort of problems we are experiencing now, and they seemed genuinely willing to help.

Lower Schools reception policy is - don't disturb us, and that's if they manage to get of their arses to open the gate, then all we get is WHAT!
That explains why parents got 40 minutes notice yesterday that after school clubs were cancelled. I love the bit where Mrs Hobbs has an open door policy. Hahaha. Got to get passed the guard dogs first, and she is semi retired so never there! When she is she ignores you. I have tried to get an appointment on numerous occasion! What a joke. The attitude of the reception staff is to treat parents like something they found at the bottom of their shoes. Bring back the receptionists at the Upper School, never had those sort of problems we are experiencing now, and they seemed genuinely willing to help. Lower Schools reception policy is - don't disturb us, and that's if they manage to get of their arses to open the gate, then all we get is WHAT! Heathfield Mum
  • Score: 27

9:53am Wed 22 Jan 14

mrblunt says...

If all the children were gone when the Mum got there to collect her daughter, was the Mum late. Was the school specifically asked to keep her daughter in the school until she arrived and they failed to do this. Has the girl not been told not to go from the school gate until her Mum arrived. Easy to blame the school but I don't think all the story is being told about this incident. Is this just another stick to beat the school with because people are unhappy about the way it is being run.
If all the children were gone when the Mum got there to collect her daughter, was the Mum late. Was the school specifically asked to keep her daughter in the school until she arrived and they failed to do this. Has the girl not been told not to go from the school gate until her Mum arrived. Easy to blame the school but I don't think all the story is being told about this incident. Is this just another stick to beat the school with because people are unhappy about the way it is being run. mrblunt
  • Score: 89

10:18am Wed 22 Jan 14

Proudmumoftwins says...

When I was at school we had a register in the afternoon? Why wasn't it picked up she was missing then? Or did she slip out the gate at the end of school because of the parents not being there on time to collect her? Why didn't the grand parents notify the parents to say their 8 year old daughter is wondering the streets alone? Think there's more to this story??!!
When I was at school we had a register in the afternoon? Why wasn't it picked up she was missing then? Or did she slip out the gate at the end of school because of the parents not being there on time to collect her? Why didn't the grand parents notify the parents to say their 8 year old daughter is wondering the streets alone? Think there's more to this story??!! Proudmumoftwins
  • Score: 29

10:27am Wed 22 Jan 14

madmandy says...

most children would go back in and tell a teacher mummy not there why did she not do this . sometimes schools get bad write ups which are not justified because they cannot comment, it leave them open to these stories. maybe mum should talk to the her child and remind her of dangers of walking of .
most children would go back in and tell a teacher mummy not there why did she not do this . sometimes schools get bad write ups which are not justified because they cannot comment, it leave them open to these stories. maybe mum should talk to the her child and remind her of dangers of walking of . madmandy
  • Score: 42

10:42am Wed 22 Jan 14

Heathfield Mum says...

People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school.

The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it.

Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over.
People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school. The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it. Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over. Heathfield Mum
  • Score: -23

11:09am Wed 22 Jan 14

Mumofchild in school says...

Just a matter of time before this happened, this school is lacking in communication organisation skills, and good educational skills. Not the first time this has happened we were giving a time to pick children up from an after school club it actually finished 10 mins before and I discovered a friends child walking out of school on own. The children have been giving their own water bottles in school and they are washed once a week and topped up daily (disgusting) as their names have rubbed off bottles they drink from what ever bottle they wish. As for the homework what sort of planning goes into that. Southampton City Council you should be ashamed of yourselves, who can blame Mrs Hobbs from retiring she done a fantastic job in the infant school why should she have to sort the mess out in the failing junior school. Let's hope they do something fast before we transfer our children out.
Just a matter of time before this happened, this school is lacking in communication organisation skills, and good educational skills. Not the first time this has happened we were giving a time to pick children up from an after school club it actually finished 10 mins before and I discovered a friends child walking out of school on own. The children have been giving their own water bottles in school and they are washed once a week and topped up daily (disgusting) as their names have rubbed off bottles they drink from what ever bottle they wish. As for the homework what sort of planning goes into that. Southampton City Council you should be ashamed of yourselves, who can blame Mrs Hobbs from retiring she done a fantastic job in the infant school why should she have to sort the mess out in the failing junior school. Let's hope they do something fast before we transfer our children out. Mumofchild in school
  • Score: 2

11:17am Wed 22 Jan 14

terrij says...

There is a lot of emotion running through all these posts and I doubt whether all the details are correct.The after school club should keep children on the premises until collected and the child should know ,at 8,not to wander off.Maybe they thought they were being "grown up" making their own way to the grandparent.I totally sympathize with the feeling of the parent and those dark moments when a child is lost is chilling.However,do not take this as an opportunity to vent your anger about the changes happening to the two schools.Embrace the change, and get behind the staff and the governors and say "what can we do to make this better"?It is your school!There is no magic, it comes from positive action and genuine caring.Volunteer to help not hinder!As for Mrs Hobbs,what a long career of care and dedication she has provided to the school is that all to be forgotten in these last months before she retires?She is one of the last of a generation of heads that trained to see that children are happy,well turned out and not driven by test results and league tables.All of YOU make the school what it is,start being more supportive today!Happy retirement Mrs Hobbs.
There is a lot of emotion running through all these posts and I doubt whether all the details are correct.The after school club should keep children on the premises until collected and the child should know ,at 8,not to wander off.Maybe they thought they were being "grown up" making their own way to the grandparent.I totally sympathize with the feeling of the parent and those dark moments when a child is lost is chilling.However,do not take this as an opportunity to vent your anger about the changes happening to the two schools.Embrace the change, and get behind the staff and the governors and say "what can we do to make this better"?It is your school!There is no magic, it comes from positive action and genuine caring.Volunteer to help not hinder!As for Mrs Hobbs,what a long career of care and dedication she has provided to the school is that all to be forgotten in these last months before she retires?She is one of the last of a generation of heads that trained to see that children are happy,well turned out and not driven by test results and league tables.All of YOU make the school what it is,start being more supportive today!Happy retirement Mrs Hobbs. terrij
  • Score: 45

12:29pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mecharacter says...

I just wonder if the child was taught NEVER to leave school unattended and to wait no matter how long for someone to collect her. I presume this child will be grounded or be sternly reminded that she should NEVER wander alone after school,. Like I am reading it is all too easy to blame the school . IF Mum was running late could she not phone the school and ask that they hold her daughter in reception till she got there or something - More to this than meets the eye. Just saying .............
I just wonder if the child was taught NEVER to leave school unattended and to wait no matter how long for someone to collect her. I presume this child will be grounded or be sternly reminded that she should NEVER wander alone after school,. Like I am reading it is all too easy to blame the school . IF Mum was running late could she not phone the school and ask that they hold her daughter in reception till she got there or something - More to this than meets the eye. Just saying ............. mecharacter
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12:45pm Wed 22 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: -9

12:57pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

Heathfield Mum wrote:
People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school.

The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it.

Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over.
And the result of 'other events' taking over can lead to your child being left on their own. I'm not a parent but I can't really see how anything can overtake collecting an 8 year old child from school. If you can't make it, you arrange for somebody else to go, if you're running late, you call the school. A child is a parents responsibility so stop passing the blame.
[quote][p][bold]Heathfield Mum[/bold] wrote: People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school. The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it. Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over.[/p][/quote]And the result of 'other events' taking over can lead to your child being left on their own. I'm not a parent but I can't really see how anything can overtake collecting an 8 year old child from school. If you can't make it, you arrange for somebody else to go, if you're running late, you call the school. A child is a parents responsibility so stop passing the blame. sotonboy84
  • Score: 27

1:04pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

Mumofchild in school wrote:
Just a matter of time before this happened, this school is lacking in communication organisation skills, and good educational skills. Not the first time this has happened we were giving a time to pick children up from an after school club it actually finished 10 mins before and I discovered a friends child walking out of school on own. The children have been giving their own water bottles in school and they are washed once a week and topped up daily (disgusting) as their names have rubbed off bottles they drink from what ever bottle they wish. As for the homework what sort of planning goes into that. Southampton City Council you should be ashamed of yourselves, who can blame Mrs Hobbs from retiring she done a fantastic job in the infant school why should she have to sort the mess out in the failing junior school. Let's hope they do something fast before we transfer our children out.
I don't know how this school's run but it sounds like there are many parents that aren't happy. But, as it's your children's education, why don't you all get up and do something proactive rather than just moan and write letters of complaint. I'm sure between the 80 parents that have signed a petition that some of you could find the time to help the school in a voluntary capacity or maybe get involved with the running of the school and become a school governor. It's all very well moaning and threatening to move your children from the school, that's the easy part and gets very little done other than just do more damage to the school and ultimately the quality of the children's education. If you value your children's education then do something proactive because as parents of the children, you will have a voice.
[quote][p][bold]Mumofchild in school[/bold] wrote: Just a matter of time before this happened, this school is lacking in communication organisation skills, and good educational skills. Not the first time this has happened we were giving a time to pick children up from an after school club it actually finished 10 mins before and I discovered a friends child walking out of school on own. The children have been giving their own water bottles in school and they are washed once a week and topped up daily (disgusting) as their names have rubbed off bottles they drink from what ever bottle they wish. As for the homework what sort of planning goes into that. Southampton City Council you should be ashamed of yourselves, who can blame Mrs Hobbs from retiring she done a fantastic job in the infant school why should she have to sort the mess out in the failing junior school. Let's hope they do something fast before we transfer our children out.[/p][/quote]I don't know how this school's run but it sounds like there are many parents that aren't happy. But, as it's your children's education, why don't you all get up and do something proactive rather than just moan and write letters of complaint. I'm sure between the 80 parents that have signed a petition that some of you could find the time to help the school in a voluntary capacity or maybe get involved with the running of the school and become a school governor. It's all very well moaning and threatening to move your children from the school, that's the easy part and gets very little done other than just do more damage to the school and ultimately the quality of the children's education. If you value your children's education then do something proactive because as parents of the children, you will have a voice. sotonboy84
  • Score: 17

1:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better[/p][/quote]A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do. sotonboy84
  • Score: 19

1:13pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Richard Tunn says...

Concerned Parent,

I am sure the school staff were extremely upset over this incident.
Heathfield Junior School has suffered a number of problems in recent years and on January 6th this year was merged with Valentine Infants School.
I assume the thinking behind this was to raise standards to Valentines level and the fact is this cannot be achieved in 3 weeks. It takes a huge team effort over many months/years by staff and parents.

Perhaps parents would be better off discussing any genuine concerns with the school instead of rushing to the local press or using various forms of social media. These actions can only serve to promulgate an unfair negative image. Try saying something positive for a change !

Pupils best interests must be paramount. If this means raising difficult issues and at times challenging parents then so be it. Its about time everyone from the community got behind the school and its staff to assist them in their efforts to improve standards.
Concerned Parent, I am sure the school staff were extremely upset over this incident. Heathfield Junior School has suffered a number of problems in recent years and on January 6th this year was merged with Valentine Infants School. I assume the thinking behind this was to raise standards to Valentines level and the fact is this cannot be achieved in 3 weeks. It takes a huge team effort over many months/years by staff and parents. Perhaps parents would be better off discussing any genuine concerns with the school instead of rushing to the local press or using various forms of social media. These actions can only serve to promulgate an unfair negative image. Try saying something positive for a change ! Pupils best interests must be paramount. If this means raising difficult issues and at times challenging parents then so be it. Its about time everyone from the community got behind the school and its staff to assist them in their efforts to improve standards. Richard Tunn
  • Score: 30

1:43pm Wed 22 Jan 14

wilsoncastaway says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Heathfield Mum wrote:
People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school.

The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it.

Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over.
And the result of 'other events' taking over can lead to your child being left on their own. I'm not a parent but I can't really see how anything can overtake collecting an 8 year old child from school. If you can't make it, you arrange for somebody else to go, if you're running late, you call the school. A child is a parents responsibility so stop passing the blame.
I have two boys.One at secondary school, one at primary.There were a few occasions in the past where I was late collecting my children.Luckily the schools were brilliant in dealing with this situation.Once was when a course I was o for work over ran ten minutes and the traffic was awful.I had no one other than myself to collect my child.Being that my husband and parents were all working.Another time was when a delivery of a bed turned up when I was about to leave, belive me it can happen to the best of us.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heathfield Mum[/bold] wrote: People are missing the point. There was no one manning the reception as they only have one now, and that's in the lower school. The after school club was being run by an outside agency, and the only time when a member if staff was is the building, was to walk through the middle of the club disturbing the running of it. Yes it's a parents responsibility to be on time, but sometimes other life events take over.[/p][/quote]And the result of 'other events' taking over can lead to your child being left on their own. I'm not a parent but I can't really see how anything can overtake collecting an 8 year old child from school. If you can't make it, you arrange for somebody else to go, if you're running late, you call the school. A child is a parents responsibility so stop passing the blame.[/p][/quote]I have two boys.One at secondary school, one at primary.There were a few occasions in the past where I was late collecting my children.Luckily the schools were brilliant in dealing with this situation.Once was when a course I was o for work over ran ten minutes and the traffic was awful.I had no one other than myself to collect my child.Being that my husband and parents were all working.Another time was when a delivery of a bed turned up when I was about to leave, belive me it can happen to the best of us. wilsoncastaway
  • Score: 5

2:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.
If the mum was as the gate on time and the school spent 45 minutes searching for the missing girl , then work out the time factor . I quite agree that teacher s are not un paid babysitter s , but the SCHOOL still has a duty to each child & parent . This is not the 1st time for VALENTINE SCHOOL , once could be error twice is NEGLECT
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better[/p][/quote]A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.[/p][/quote]If the mum was as the gate on time and the school spent 45 minutes searching for the missing girl , then work out the time factor . I quite agree that teacher s are not un paid babysitter s , but the SCHOOL still has a duty to each child & parent . This is not the 1st time for VALENTINE SCHOOL , once could be error twice is NEGLECT SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: -5

3:22pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark
With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark Mary80
  • Score: -6

3:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.
If the mum was as the gate on time and the school spent 45 minutes searching for the missing girl , then work out the time factor . I quite agree that teacher s are not un paid babysitter s , but the SCHOOL still has a duty to each child & parent . This is not the 1st time for VALENTINE SCHOOL , once could be error twice is NEGLECT
"she was found half a mile away – having walked alone to her grandmother’s home in the dark"

Suggests it must have been at least 4:30pm already when she walked off so the mother was late picking her up.
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better[/p][/quote]A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.[/p][/quote]If the mum was as the gate on time and the school spent 45 minutes searching for the missing girl , then work out the time factor . I quite agree that teacher s are not un paid babysitter s , but the SCHOOL still has a duty to each child & parent . This is not the 1st time for VALENTINE SCHOOL , once could be error twice is NEGLECT[/p][/quote]"she was found half a mile away – having walked alone to her grandmother’s home in the dark" Suggests it must have been at least 4:30pm already when she walked off so the mother was late picking her up. sotonboy84
  • Score: 9

3:47pm Wed 22 Jan 14

still_thinking says...

When my youngest was at Valentine my eldest was 5 minutes late collecting him and he was not there. I called the school in panic only to find out they let my son go with two of my eldest sons friends all because they had seen my son with them before. Needless to say I was not happy but my son was found safe.
When my youngest was at Valentine my eldest was 5 minutes late collecting him and he was not there. I called the school in panic only to find out they let my son go with two of my eldest sons friends all because they had seen my son with them before. Needless to say I was not happy but my son was found safe. still_thinking
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Lulu02 says...

At my child's school (Foundry Lane) no child leaves the reception area following an after school club unless the member of staff on the door can see that the child's parent or carer is present. This is the standard of responsibility a parent should expect from a primary school and clearly other schools are managing to do this so it's only right parents of this school complain and raise their concerns.
At my child's school (Foundry Lane) no child leaves the reception area following an after school club unless the member of staff on the door can see that the child's parent or carer is present. This is the standard of responsibility a parent should expect from a primary school and clearly other schools are managing to do this so it's only right parents of this school complain and raise their concerns. Lulu02
  • Score: 2

4:37pm Wed 22 Jan 14

billy123456 says...

I dont think you can really blame the parents in this case. At the end of the day you leave your child with a professional you expect them to care for your child from the minute you drop them off to when you collect them. If they can let a child slip out without noticing thats terrible, anything could of happened to this little girl. Luckily she was ok. If a parent is late surely the teacher should look after the child make sure he/she is safe. Or take them to reception and wait until collected. Thank god my boys dont go to that school.
I dont think you can really blame the parents in this case. At the end of the day you leave your child with a professional you expect them to care for your child from the minute you drop them off to when you collect them. If they can let a child slip out without noticing thats terrible, anything could of happened to this little girl. Luckily she was ok. If a parent is late surely the teacher should look after the child make sure he/she is safe. Or take them to reception and wait until collected. Thank god my boys dont go to that school. billy123456
  • Score: 2

4:56pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Annie Anonymous says...

I don't think it's the school so much as it is the parents. Mrs Hobbs has maintained a fantastic Ofsted and a beautifully managed infants school with lovely teachers for the best part of 20 years, let her retire on a good note rather than seeing the school being slammed into the ground!
80 parents have signed this so called petition... What about the other 210 parents who haven't signed? Sounds like a minority vote.
As for 'other life events taking over' - your children should be a number one priority! It's no use blaming the school. Yes it's devastating to lose your child, there's no disputing it but she's safe. Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your own actions.
I don't think it's the school so much as it is the parents. Mrs Hobbs has maintained a fantastic Ofsted and a beautifully managed infants school with lovely teachers for the best part of 20 years, let her retire on a good note rather than seeing the school being slammed into the ground! 80 parents have signed this so called petition... What about the other 210 parents who haven't signed? Sounds like a minority vote. As for 'other life events taking over' - your children should be a number one priority! It's no use blaming the school. Yes it's devastating to lose your child, there's no disputing it but she's safe. Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your own actions. Annie Anonymous
  • Score: 7

5:03pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Annie Anonymous says...

Annie Anonymous wrote:
I don't think it's the school so much as it is the parents. Mrs Hobbs has maintained a fantastic Ofsted and a beautifully managed infants school with lovely teachers for the best part of 20 years, let her retire on a good note rather than seeing the school being slammed into the ground!
80 parents have signed this so called petition... What about the other 210 parents who haven't signed? Sounds like a minority vote.
As for 'other life events taking over' - your children should be a number one priority! It's no use blaming the school. Yes it's devastating to lose your child, there's no disputing it but she's safe. Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your own actions.
I beg your pardon... 610*
[quote][p][bold]Annie Anonymous[/bold] wrote: I don't think it's the school so much as it is the parents. Mrs Hobbs has maintained a fantastic Ofsted and a beautifully managed infants school with lovely teachers for the best part of 20 years, let her retire on a good note rather than seeing the school being slammed into the ground! 80 parents have signed this so called petition... What about the other 210 parents who haven't signed? Sounds like a minority vote. As for 'other life events taking over' - your children should be a number one priority! It's no use blaming the school. Yes it's devastating to lose your child, there's no disputing it but she's safe. Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your own actions.[/p][/quote]I beg your pardon... 610* Annie Anonymous
  • Score: 4

5:31pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sotonmum says...

The mum was picking the child up from an after school club which ended at 4:30pm. I also couldnt find my daughter has I had no instructions or letters home advising me where I could pick her up. Eventually I just walked straight into the school...which raisies many more issues regarding safety. I recently had a text from the school says my daughter was absent from infant school. Strange as she now attends junior school. There is only one reception now and the communication between staff and parents is terrible. I will be transfering my child if the standards don't improve
The mum was picking the child up from an after school club which ended at 4:30pm. I also couldnt find my daughter has I had no instructions or letters home advising me where I could pick her up. Eventually I just walked straight into the school...which raisies many more issues regarding safety. I recently had a text from the school says my daughter was absent from infant school. Strange as she now attends junior school. There is only one reception now and the communication between staff and parents is terrible. I will be transfering my child if the standards don't improve sotonmum
  • Score: 5

5:32pm Wed 22 Jan 14

MPCBOS says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.
if a parent is late it is down to the school to contact them. if a child is usually collected then the class teacher should be aware and act accordingly.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better[/p][/quote]A school does have a duty of care but so do the parents. They can't assume that the school is a free babysitter until they turn up. As other posts have said, there's more than meats the eye here. If the child walked to her grandmother's in the dark, it must have been at least 4:30pm so how late was the mother in collecting her? All I'm saying is it's easy to attack the school but the parents have as much responsibility as the school do.[/p][/quote]if a parent is late it is down to the school to contact them. if a child is usually collected then the class teacher should be aware and act accordingly. MPCBOS
  • Score: -2

5:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

SAB208 says...

With the best security, procedures and manpower in the world children can still walk off site if they choose. Thankfully this little one was found safe but was the grandmother not called instantly as it appears the child knew the way so must have been familiar with the route, and this could have saved 45 minutes of anxiety.
With the best security, procedures and manpower in the world children can still walk off site if they choose. Thankfully this little one was found safe but was the grandmother not called instantly as it appears the child knew the way so must have been familiar with the route, and this could have saved 45 minutes of anxiety. SAB208
  • Score: 4

5:37pm Wed 22 Jan 14

SAB208 says...

Heathfield Mum wrote:
That explains why parents got 40 minutes notice yesterday that after school clubs were cancelled.

I love the bit where Mrs Hobbs has an open door policy. Hahaha. Got to get passed the guard dogs first, and she is semi retired so never there!

When she is she ignores you. I have tried to get an appointment on numerous occasion! What a joke.

The attitude of the reception staff is to treat parents like something they found at the bottom of their shoes.

Bring back the receptionists at the Upper School, never had those sort of problems we are experiencing now, and they seemed genuinely willing to help.

Lower Schools reception policy is - don't disturb us, and that's if they manage to get of their arses to open the gate, then all we get is WHAT!
If the clubs are run by outside agencies this can be all the notice given sometimes.
[quote][p][bold]Heathfield Mum[/bold] wrote: That explains why parents got 40 minutes notice yesterday that after school clubs were cancelled. I love the bit where Mrs Hobbs has an open door policy. Hahaha. Got to get passed the guard dogs first, and she is semi retired so never there! When she is she ignores you. I have tried to get an appointment on numerous occasion! What a joke. The attitude of the reception staff is to treat parents like something they found at the bottom of their shoes. Bring back the receptionists at the Upper School, never had those sort of problems we are experiencing now, and they seemed genuinely willing to help. Lower Schools reception policy is - don't disturb us, and that's if they manage to get of their arses to open the gate, then all we get is WHAT![/p][/quote]If the clubs are run by outside agencies this can be all the notice given sometimes. SAB208
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

Surely the first thing to do if your child is AWOL to call friends and family if they saw the child
Surely the first thing to do if your child is AWOL to call friends and family if they saw the child Mary80
  • Score: 1

7:05pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Laggie says...

I would like to say that my son Jamie attended Valentine infants some years ago and loved it. I always found Dianne Hobbs to be very supportive and caring. My son thoroughly enjoyed his time there, and still talks about it to this day, being 12 and moved up to big school! So thank you to all the teachers and especially to Diane, I hope you enjoy your retirement, you deserve recognition for all of the hard work you have done. And as the old saying goes, you can't please everyone! Selena x
I would like to say that my son Jamie attended Valentine infants some years ago and loved it. I always found Dianne Hobbs to be very supportive and caring. My son thoroughly enjoyed his time there, and still talks about it to this day, being 12 and moved up to big school! So thank you to all the teachers and especially to Diane, I hope you enjoy your retirement, you deserve recognition for all of the hard work you have done. And as the old saying goes, you can't please everyone! Selena x Laggie
  • Score: 5

7:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

kids comes first says...

i think you will found out that most of the ladies in the echo are pfa helpers who have put in a lot of time and effort for the children . to put smiles on their faces and going to the echo was a last resort .... it was never about the after school clubs we went to the echo and the schoo lwith our concerms before this storeycame out . which everyone is forgetting.... it is not a witchunt which some people are saying.. children come first and that the way it should stay .what happened to freedom of speech .........
i think you will found out that most of the ladies in the echo are pfa helpers who have put in a lot of time and effort for the children . to put smiles on their faces and going to the echo was a last resort .... it was never about the after school clubs we went to the echo and the schoo lwith our concerms before this storeycame out . which everyone is forgetting.... it is not a witchunt which some people are saying.. children come first and that the way it should stay .what happened to freedom of speech ......... kids comes first
  • Score: -10

8:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

sparkster says...

I thought whilst a child is still in school the teachers are responsible for them. \\\when I went to school there was a teacher in the playground to ensure all children were collected and if a parent was late the child was taken back into the school until the parent arrived, the same happened when our son went to school, there was always a teacher in the playground to ensure all children were collected
I thought whilst a child is still in school the teachers are responsible for them. \\\when I went to school there was a teacher in the playground to ensure all children were collected and if a parent was late the child was taken back into the school until the parent arrived, the same happened when our son went to school, there was always a teacher in the playground to ensure all children were collected sparkster
  • Score: 4

8:17pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Valentine Parent says...

I was shocked and upset to read such a terrible report regarding this school. For the past 10 years I have been attending Valentine Infant and Heathfield Junior (now known as Valentine Primary) taking my eldest and recently my youngest to the schools.

I think if you were to ask many parents of pupils that are attending or who have attended the schools in the past, Mrs Hobbs has been instrumental in the success of Valentine Infant School ensuring that it was graded "Outstanding" 2 years running and also for her experience and support she showed to another infant school in the local area when she was seconded to raise their standards a couple of years ago. She is now at a point in her career when her hard work and dedication should be celebrated, not have her name dragged through the mud by parents who feel that schools are responsible for all aspects of a childs life and accept no responsibility themselves.

Communication at the school has always been of a good standard from the early days of letters in book bags to now more commonly used text messages and over the past 10 years, have been kept up to date with all changes that have been necessary.
I was shocked and upset to read such a terrible report regarding this school. For the past 10 years I have been attending Valentine Infant and Heathfield Junior (now known as Valentine Primary) taking my eldest and recently my youngest to the schools. I think if you were to ask many parents of pupils that are attending or who have attended the schools in the past, Mrs Hobbs has been instrumental in the success of Valentine Infant School ensuring that it was graded "Outstanding" 2 years running and also for her experience and support she showed to another infant school in the local area when she was seconded to raise their standards a couple of years ago. She is now at a point in her career when her hard work and dedication should be celebrated, not have her name dragged through the mud by parents who feel that schools are responsible for all aspects of a childs life and accept no responsibility themselves. Communication at the school has always been of a good standard from the early days of letters in book bags to now more commonly used text messages and over the past 10 years, have been kept up to date with all changes that have been necessary. Valentine Parent
  • Score: 11

10:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Annie Anonymous says...

Valentine Parent wrote:
I was shocked and upset to read such a terrible report regarding this school. For the past 10 years I have been attending Valentine Infant and Heathfield Junior (now known as Valentine Primary) taking my eldest and recently my youngest to the schools.

I think if you were to ask many parents of pupils that are attending or who have attended the schools in the past, Mrs Hobbs has been instrumental in the success of Valentine Infant School ensuring that it was graded "Outstanding" 2 years running and also for her experience and support she showed to another infant school in the local area when she was seconded to raise their standards a couple of years ago. She is now at a point in her career when her hard work and dedication should be celebrated, not have her name dragged through the mud by parents who feel that schools are responsible for all aspects of a childs life and accept no responsibility themselves.

Communication at the school has always been of a good standard from the early days of letters in book bags to now more commonly used text messages and over the past 10 years, have been kept up to date with all changes that have been necessary.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]Valentine Parent[/bold] wrote: I was shocked and upset to read such a terrible report regarding this school. For the past 10 years I have been attending Valentine Infant and Heathfield Junior (now known as Valentine Primary) taking my eldest and recently my youngest to the schools. I think if you were to ask many parents of pupils that are attending or who have attended the schools in the past, Mrs Hobbs has been instrumental in the success of Valentine Infant School ensuring that it was graded "Outstanding" 2 years running and also for her experience and support she showed to another infant school in the local area when she was seconded to raise their standards a couple of years ago. She is now at a point in her career when her hard work and dedication should be celebrated, not have her name dragged through the mud by parents who feel that schools are responsible for all aspects of a childs life and accept no responsibility themselves. Communication at the school has always been of a good standard from the early days of letters in book bags to now more commonly used text messages and over the past 10 years, have been kept up to date with all changes that have been necessary.[/p][/quote]Well said! Annie Anonymous
  • Score: 4

10:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Annie Anonymous says...

kids comes first wrote:
i think you will found out that most of the ladies in the echo are pfa helpers who have put in a lot of time and effort for the children . to put smiles on their faces and going to the echo was a last resort .... it was never about the after school clubs we went to the echo and the schoo lwith our concerms before this storeycame out . which everyone is forgetting.... it is not a witchunt which some people are saying.. children come first and that the way it should stay .what happened to freedom of speech .........
Good for these Ladies being on the PFA - having close ties with the school it's a shame you felt the need to go against them in their hour of need. There are certain ways of going about things and running to the press to get your 15 minutes of fame is not one! I think what you're all forgetting is that Rome wasn't built in a day.
[quote][p][bold]kids comes first[/bold] wrote: i think you will found out that most of the ladies in the echo are pfa helpers who have put in a lot of time and effort for the children . to put smiles on their faces and going to the echo was a last resort .... it was never about the after school clubs we went to the echo and the schoo lwith our concerms before this storeycame out . which everyone is forgetting.... it is not a witchunt which some people are saying.. children come first and that the way it should stay .what happened to freedom of speech .........[/p][/quote]Good for these Ladies being on the PFA - having close ties with the school it's a shame you felt the need to go against them in their hour of need. There are certain ways of going about things and running to the press to get your 15 minutes of fame is not one! I think what you're all forgetting is that Rome wasn't built in a day. Annie Anonymous
  • Score: 6

1:32am Thu 23 Jan 14

Dave Of The South says...

Go to the board of governors & if that fails Ofstead
Go to the board of governors & if that fails Ofstead Dave Of The South
  • Score: -2

8:21am Thu 23 Jan 14

davesbabe says...

The mums that went to the office last week to hand in letters to the governers had requested meetings with senior management to discuss their concerns, after getting no answers about any of their concerns, the echo was a last straw! The issue with the little girl going missing is an entirely separate matter, why the echo has printed both in one story is beyond me, they misquoted everyone and missed out the main concerns the mums had, nice job Echo, for the record, Stupideditor, if the only insult you can find is the size of someones behind then you're a bit lacking yourself, she is a lovely lady who would help anyone and im disgusted by what you've said!
The mums that went to the office last week to hand in letters to the governers had requested meetings with senior management to discuss their concerns, after getting no answers about any of their concerns, the echo was a last straw! The issue with the little girl going missing is an entirely separate matter, why the echo has printed both in one story is beyond me, they misquoted everyone and missed out the main concerns the mums had, nice job Echo, for the record, Stupideditor, if the only insult you can find is the size of someones behind then you're a bit lacking yourself, she is a lovely lady who would help anyone and im disgusted by what you've said! davesbabe
  • Score: 5

1:25pm Thu 23 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

Mary80 wrote:
With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark
With the recent rash of REPORTS of rapes and child abduction, you mean? There's nothing to suggest these incidents themselves are getting more frequent.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark[/p][/quote]With the recent rash of REPORTS of rapes and child abduction, you mean? There's nothing to suggest these incidents themselves are getting more frequent. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -1

3:48pm Thu 23 Jan 14

cliffwalker says...

I presume the parents know what time their children will be released. Teachers must be responsible for holding children until the official closing time. Parents must have the primary responsibility for being there to collect children who need collecting.

When I was at school, I made my own way to school and back from the age of seven and so did most other seven year olds.
I presume the parents know what time their children will be released. Teachers must be responsible for holding children until the official closing time. Parents must have the primary responsibility for being there to collect children who need collecting. When I was at school, I made my own way to school and back from the age of seven and so did most other seven year olds. cliffwalker
  • Score: 0

3:33am Fri 24 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark
With the recent rash of REPORTS of rapes and child abduction, you mean? There's nothing to suggest these incidents themselves are getting more frequent.
Uh the last few weeks alone have seen several rapes on the common i'd say that is a sign its becoming frequent
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: With the recent rash of rapes and child abduction surely the school could have made sure a child didn't go wandering off to potentially face danger as it got dark[/p][/quote]With the recent rash of REPORTS of rapes and child abduction, you mean? There's nothing to suggest these incidents themselves are getting more frequent.[/p][/quote]Uh the last few weeks alone have seen several rapes on the common i'd say that is a sign its becoming frequent Mary80
  • Score: 2

10:40pm Sun 26 Jan 14

notableedingheart says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better
Duty of Care is only applicable in this particular case if the school had been made aware that the Mother was going to be late or that the child had left alone without permission. Then and only then can Duty of Care be quoted and even then it depends on the circumstances.
It is all to easy to condemn Teachers but often the condemnation is unwarranted and without basis/
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Every school has a CARE of DUTY for all PUPIL s , no matter what changes are going on in the re structuring . .SAFETY is always more important for the parents and pupil , Ofsted report takes this into account , so VALENTINE , needs to address this IMMEDIATELY and let parents feel secure with their children at the school , concentrate with marks later as grades can be addressed in time . safe kids is always more IMPORTANT . Woodlands & Oasis academy both have great pupil safety at heart , so a PRIMARY SCHOOL should be even better[/p][/quote]Duty of Care is only applicable in this particular case if the school had been made aware that the Mother was going to be late or that the child had left alone without permission. Then and only then can Duty of Care be quoted and even then it depends on the circumstances. It is all to easy to condemn Teachers but often the condemnation is unwarranted and without basis/ notableedingheart
  • Score: 2

12:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Maynard79 says...

For all u ppl that must have nothing better 2 do then sit there making
Up stories!! I was not late picking up MY daughter I was on time but stil she was gone!! Looking at the paper 2 day JENNY ARNOLD how can u say my daughter is old enough 2 make her own way home when u don't know a thing about our situation!! I live 3 miles away from this school in netley!! Again my business 2 y my kids stil go 2 this school but never the less a 8 yr old is 2 young 2 walk home alone!! U must sit and read the news everyday so u should b wel aware of what this country is coming 2!! Or r u the type of ppl that's helping society become that way by letting ur kids roam the street and do what they want just 2 get them out ur way!! Wel MY daughter don't go NO WHERE on her own and there 4 I don't expect the school 2 let her out on her own!! As 4 ppl saying there must b more 2 this story.... Seriously r u dumb!! Or sick in the head!! This school has not just failed MY daughter but many more 2!! If ne of u want 2 know ne thing else then feel free 2 come ask me and I'll tel u every detail
For all u ppl that must have nothing better 2 do then sit there making Up stories!! I was not late picking up MY daughter I was on time but stil she was gone!! Looking at the paper 2 day JENNY ARNOLD how can u say my daughter is old enough 2 make her own way home when u don't know a thing about our situation!! I live 3 miles away from this school in netley!! Again my business 2 y my kids stil go 2 this school but never the less a 8 yr old is 2 young 2 walk home alone!! U must sit and read the news everyday so u should b wel aware of what this country is coming 2!! Or r u the type of ppl that's helping society become that way by letting ur kids roam the street and do what they want just 2 get them out ur way!! Wel MY daughter don't go NO WHERE on her own and there 4 I don't expect the school 2 let her out on her own!! As 4 ppl saying there must b more 2 this story.... Seriously r u dumb!! Or sick in the head!! This school has not just failed MY daughter but many more 2!! If ne of u want 2 know ne thing else then feel free 2 come ask me and I'll tel u every detail Maynard79
  • Score: 2

6:31am Tue 28 Jan 14

Maynard79 says...

cliffwalker wrote:
I presume the parents know what time their children will be released. Teachers must be responsible for holding children until the official closing time. Parents must have the primary responsibility for being there to collect children who need collecting.

When I was at school, I made my own way to school and back from the age of seven and so did most other seven year olds.
7 years old!!! Wel just a prime example of y this society is getting so bad!! Again 4 ppls info I was NOT late picking my daughter up and even if I was, she is in the schools care til I collect her!! R ppl really that stupid 2 think it's normal 4 a child at 8 years old 2 b walking the streets alone in the dark!! LAW states that a child should NOT b left on there own til they r 12 years old so NO a 8 yr old should not b allowed out of school on her own!! We had teachers on the gate at secondary school and with no pass we couldn't go out and this is only primary!! How dare ppl slate me when u no nothing and quite clearly by MOST of these comments UR the parents that need 2 b slated 4 thinking this is normal and safe!!
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: I presume the parents know what time their children will be released. Teachers must be responsible for holding children until the official closing time. Parents must have the primary responsibility for being there to collect children who need collecting. When I was at school, I made my own way to school and back from the age of seven and so did most other seven year olds.[/p][/quote]7 years old!!! Wel just a prime example of y this society is getting so bad!! Again 4 ppls info I was NOT late picking my daughter up and even if I was, she is in the schools care til I collect her!! R ppl really that stupid 2 think it's normal 4 a child at 8 years old 2 b walking the streets alone in the dark!! LAW states that a child should NOT b left on there own til they r 12 years old so NO a 8 yr old should not b allowed out of school on her own!! We had teachers on the gate at secondary school and with no pass we couldn't go out and this is only primary!! How dare ppl slate me when u no nothing and quite clearly by MOST of these comments UR the parents that need 2 b slated 4 thinking this is normal and safe!! Maynard79
  • Score: -3

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