Controversial Adelaide Health Centre in Southampton cost £16m to build

Adelaide Health Centre in Southampton

Adelaide Health Centre in Southampton

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Crime Reporter

THE controversial Southampton health centre that has been slammed as a “white elephant” cost £16m to build, the Daily Echo can reveal.

The total cost of building Adelaide Health Centre, which was meant to be a bustling health hub for the 21st century, has never before been reported.

Today more questions are being asked about why health chiefs went ahead with the costly health hub when GPs in the area were sceptical about the need for it.

One of those doctors who was on the verge of moving his practice to the new centre told the Daily Echo he remembers a meeting where health bosses from the now defunct Southampton City Primary Care Trust (PCT) insisted the build would go ahead with or without local GP surgeries signing up to move in.

Roland Simpson confirmed that Brook House Surgery in Millbrook was the surgery lined up to move into the centre at the time the plans got the go-ahead for the council – but after the goalposts changed, they felt they had no option but to pull out.

As revealed in yesterday’s Daily Echo, what should have been a centre of excellence for healthcare has been criticised for being a “ghost town” which is costing the taxpayers £1.5m a year to run.

But health bosses, who have admitted that Adelaide Health Centre is not yet working to its full capacity, defended the situation, explaining that they have only been in charge of the building since April, when the PCT was dissolved.

When it opened in January 2010, the centre, built under the Government’s private finance initiative on the Western Community Hospital site, promised to be a bustling health hub, serving some 20,000 registered patients.

But only 3,500 patients are registered at the GP surgery, after plans for local practices to move in failed, the third floor is home to Solent NHS Trust’s admin staff and there is no full walk-in centre.

Explaining why Brook House Surgery pulled out once the build was too far gone to halt, Dr Simpson said: “Initially surgeries in the area were approached about the idea for the build but when many said that they weren’t interested because the finances didn’t add up and then things seemed to go quiet.

“It wasn’t until sometime later that news came through that a surgery in Shirley, much further away, was interested in going forward with the move and it was at that point that we spoke up as the closest surgery to the centre, asking why we had never been approached.

“We came to the conclusion that if there was going to be a GP surgery in the centre, it may as well be us, rather than see ourselves put under threat from another practice moving into this new building.

“So we went down that line and were involved with the plans until the Government revealed new plans to have new GP practices set up in every health district in the country that would open seven days a week, open 8am until 10pm, which would receive special funding.

“It soon became apparent that this practice would also be based at Adelaide.

“We were going to be giving up our nice, family friendly building and going to this new centre where we would have to compete with another practice which was going to be getting special funding and so we ended up with the conclusion that we were better off sticking with where we were.”

When the Daily Echo called Victor Street Surgery, in Shirley, one named as a potential to make the move, they also confirmed that the build was going ahead before they were approached about moving in.

There is no question about the quality of the building or the services currently running there but critics want the centre fully utilised and to become the centre of excellence they were promised.

The majority of the services, including the walk-in nurse-led service, are run by Solent NHS Trust, which leases the space for £1.5m per annum on a 25-year contract.

Michael Parr, director of finance and performance at the trust, added that a “conversation” was under way with the landlord to boost services at the centre.

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11:30am Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on.
It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector
The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on. It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector southy
  • Score: -15

11:35am Sun 26 Jan 14

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11:41am Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.
I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few. southy
  • Score: -14

12:08pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.
More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for.

The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that.

Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices.

It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported.

Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy.

No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.[/p][/quote]More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for. The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that. Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices. It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported. Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy. No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think. Shoong
  • Score: 13

1:16pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

southy wrote:
The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on.
It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector
Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on. It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector[/p][/quote]Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 1

1:16pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

southy wrote:
The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on.
It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector
Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on. It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector[/p][/quote]Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 1

1:16pm Sun 26 Jan 14

freefinker says...

.. well said Shoong
But I thought your last four words were a little unnecessary.
.. well said Shoong But I thought your last four words were a little unnecessary. freefinker
  • Score: 4

2:08pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.
More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for.

The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that.

Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices.

It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported.

Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy.

No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think.
Your are low shoong you done what I said, lets face it your stalker not a debater
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.[/p][/quote]More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for. The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that. Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices. It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported. Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy. No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think.[/p][/quote]Your are low shoong you done what I said, lets face it your stalker not a debater southy
  • Score: -7

2:21pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
southy wrote:
The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on.
It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector
Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost.
How Sir Ad E Noid is how it should be done. try and learn some thing from this guy shoong.

Sir Ad E Noid, Adelaide center covers an area of around 15 NHS GP Surgery,s, the idea was to close these and sell the land that sit on, and bring in all those surgery's under 1 roof reducing the number of NHS doctors and staff and tell the rest to work in the private sector, the walk-in section was by appointments only, not sure if it still is, the creation of a long waiting list so the Government can turn round and say the NHS no longer works then sell the rest of it, the way things are going it will not be long before you are ask how do you tend to pay, Cash, check/BCC or insurance, Look at the USA if you want a foresight how health will end up
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on. It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector[/p][/quote]Explain this illiterate rambling please, I am completely lost.[/p][/quote]How Sir Ad E Noid is how it should be done. try and learn some thing from this guy shoong. Sir Ad E Noid, Adelaide center covers an area of around 15 NHS GP Surgery,s, the idea was to close these and sell the land that sit on, and bring in all those surgery's under 1 roof reducing the number of NHS doctors and staff and tell the rest to work in the private sector, the walk-in section was by appointments only, not sure if it still is, the creation of a long waiting list so the Government can turn round and say the NHS no longer works then sell the rest of it, the way things are going it will not be long before you are ask how do you tend to pay, Cash, check/BCC or insurance, Look at the USA if you want a foresight how health will end up southy
  • Score: -3

2:25pm Sun 26 Jan 14

solentsunseeker says...

We live near here and didn't realise until yesterday that there was a Walk In Centre - we have been using the RSH. Needs a bit more publicity.
We live near here and didn't realise until yesterday that there was a Walk In Centre - we have been using the RSH. Needs a bit more publicity. solentsunseeker
  • Score: 0

2:49pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.
More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for.

The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that.

Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices.

It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported.

Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy.

No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think.
Your are low shoong you done what I said, lets face it your stalker not a debater
I'm having trouble understanding this one liner 'come back' without translation, however I'll do the best I can.

As I've said before, I've always challenged liars, hypocrites and frauds. Both in the virtual world and the real one, if you are able to distinguish between these any more.

If there were other charlatans like yourself who regularly filled these forums with far leftist or far right propaganda, outrageous false hoods, the blatant hypocrisy, the changing of history to suit your needs, I would challenge them as well. It doesn't really matter what part of the political spectrum you hail from, whether it be the left or the right, I would challenge them.

However, because you are an ignorant bigot I'm not really expecting you to understand. I wonder what your Lord and Master Nick would have to say if he read your rubbish. We can keep this up all day until you inevitably retreat behind his apron strings.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I expect Shoong to moan again about a political agenda, dead right it is I do not think of my self I put others first and there needs I do things for the majority and never for the few.[/p][/quote]More lies - on the contrary it is all about you as you are using a forum on a local news site to promote your political ideals and the party you claim to stand for. The fact that you have been unable to show any kind of restraint by posting 3 times in 11 minutes confirms that. Stop Googling random links and posting them on here - you cannot vouch for them, nor can you guarantee that this page is safe to view - you could be directing people to links to pages that may infect other posters or viewers devices. It isn't really relevant to the story anyway and has been reported. Your concern for the 'majority' is another lie - the majority clearly do not follow your agenda or the party you claim to represent. You are well known for labelling anyone who does not follow your backward way of thinking as 'stupid' and if bombarding a local news site with irrelevant drivel is your idea of 'I do things for the majority and never for the few' then you need to rethink your strategy. No-one's falling for it Peter - we are not all as stupid as you would like to think.[/p][/quote]Your are low shoong you done what I said, lets face it your stalker not a debater[/p][/quote]I'm having trouble understanding this one liner 'come back' without translation, however I'll do the best I can. As I've said before, I've always challenged liars, hypocrites and frauds. Both in the virtual world and the real one, if you are able to distinguish between these any more. If there were other charlatans like yourself who regularly filled these forums with far leftist or far right propaganda, outrageous false hoods, the blatant hypocrisy, the changing of history to suit your needs, I would challenge them as well. It doesn't really matter what part of the political spectrum you hail from, whether it be the left or the right, I would challenge them. However, because you are an ignorant bigot I'm not really expecting you to understand. I wonder what your Lord and Master Nick would have to say if he read your rubbish. We can keep this up all day until you inevitably retreat behind his apron strings. Shoong
  • Score: 2

3:20pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

solentsunseeker wrote:
We live near here and didn't realise until yesterday that there was a Walk In Centre - we have been using the RSH. Needs a bit more publicity.
Can you remember when Shirley walk-in-center closed, it was publicise then, well just after when the complaints started to roll in about the closure of Shirley walk in center it was announce soon after that Adelaide Health Center had a Walk-in, but when I check it out it was for appointments only and as far as I know its still the same
[quote][p][bold]solentsunseeker[/bold] wrote: We live near here and didn't realise until yesterday that there was a Walk In Centre - we have been using the RSH. Needs a bit more publicity.[/p][/quote]Can you remember when Shirley walk-in-center closed, it was publicise then, well just after when the complaints started to roll in about the closure of Shirley walk in center it was announce soon after that Adelaide Health Center had a Walk-in, but when I check it out it was for appointments only and as far as I know its still the same southy
  • Score: -1

4:28pm Sun 26 Jan 14

befriendly says...

southy wrote:
The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on.
It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector
As you think you are a politician put your politicians hat on and imagine what would happen to any political party that did break up or privatise the NHS. We, the general public you wish to vote for you are far more intelligent than you take us for, which is why we won't vote for Stalinist ideals, just as we won't vote for any party that breaks up or privatises the NHS. Now as you know everything there is to know can you tell me who first muted the idea of the NHS and when, within ten years will do.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The idea behind Adelaide was to reduce the number of local doctors surgery, making people to travel a greater distance leading onto fewer GP doctors increasing the waiting list and longer ques, it would also free up land for the private sector to buy up cheap and build on. It was to be used as an excuse to break up the NHS more for the private sector[/p][/quote]As you think you are a politician put your politicians hat on and imagine what would happen to any political party that did break up or privatise the NHS. We, the general public you wish to vote for you are far more intelligent than you take us for, which is why we won't vote for Stalinist ideals, just as we won't vote for any party that breaks up or privatises the NHS. Now as you know everything there is to know can you tell me who first muted the idea of the NHS and when, within ten years will do. befriendly
  • Score: 1

6:26pm Sun 26 Jan 14

News Fanatic says...

I had an appointment at Adelaide health centre this week, the first time I have visited it. I was amazed by the huge entrance area. The cost of heating it must be enormous and it is such a waste of space. Surely the architects could have come up with a better and more efficient design. It's not as though fuel was cheap when it was built in 2010.
I had an appointment at Adelaide health centre this week, the first time I have visited it. I was amazed by the huge entrance area. The cost of heating it must be enormous and it is such a waste of space. Surely the architects could have come up with a better and more efficient design. It's not as though fuel was cheap when it was built in 2010. News Fanatic
  • Score: 3

1:46am Mon 27 Jan 14

Dave Of The South says...

Always thought it rather bizarre that the foot clinic (podiatry) was upstairs, thus those with bad feet have to walk further to get to it! Ok there is a lift, but still extra distance involved.
Always thought it rather bizarre that the foot clinic (podiatry) was upstairs, thus those with bad feet have to walk further to get to it! Ok there is a lift, but still extra distance involved. Dave Of The South
  • Score: 1

4:07am Mon 27 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

Is Mayor Adam West from Quahog secretly running Southampton County Council? Their crackpot ideas are exactly what Mayor West would pull
Is Mayor Adam West from Quahog secretly running Southampton County Council? Their crackpot ideas are exactly what Mayor West would pull Mary80
  • Score: 0

8:20am Mon 27 Jan 14

Raxx says...

Open it up 24 hrs a day for minor injuries, urgent care, and diagnostics. it's close enough to the general to ease emergency demand there.
Open it up 24 hrs a day for minor injuries, urgent care, and diagnostics. it's close enough to the general to ease emergency demand there. Raxx
  • Score: 2

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