Southampton celebrating 50 years as a city with pledges for improvement

Southampton from the air.

Mayor Councillor Ivan White.

Southampton is marking 50 years as a city.

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Editor-in-chief

THERE have been people living in and around what is now Southampton since before the Romans came - yet the city has existed in name and royal recognition for only 50 years.

Southampton became a city on February 24, 1964, when a Charter of Queen Elizabeth II created the City of Southampton.

Starting a year of celebrations, mayor Councillor Ivan White will throw open his parlour in the Civic Centre to local schoolchildren and citizens on the day Southampton received its city status 50 years ago.

Visitors will be greeted by the mayor to view the extensive collection of gifts from visiting dignitaries.

A portrait of the Queen, commissioned by public subscription following a successful campaign led by the Daily Echo 50 years ago, is a highlight of the other artworks displayed.

Later on the same day at 5pm, a service of thanksgiving will take place at St Mary’s Church.

Cllr White said: “I am really excited to be celebrating our 50 years of city status.

“Southampton in its 50th year has so much to celebrate, from our thriving port, to our award-winning city parks and venues, to our continuous improvement in educational attainment.”

A number of other events are planned to mark the anniversary throughout the year, including festivals and concerts.

Although the actual anniversary is next month, the summer will see the focus of the city’s celebrations, with events in the planning stage for Guildhall Square and other venues.

The Daily Echo will be playing its part in marking the occasion with a year-long focus on the past five decades.

As well as special features looking back at how our city and its region has changed since the 1960s, we will be looking ahead to what the future holds for one of the most vibrant cities in the country.

Towards the end of last year, civic leaders and representatives gathered at Southampton Solent University to agree on a scheme to raise 50 pledges from all aspects of life in Southampton, designed to make city life even better.

The idea came from a challenge issued by Matthew Taylor, chief executive of the Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce, when he spoke at a university event called Vision for 2020 held last October.

He challenged the city to pledge 50 commitments to mark 50 years, and the Echo is included in those pledges, with the paper ensuring we highlight (at least) 50 positive articles about city life every month in 2014.

We also pledge to support others making their own commitment to making Southampton a better place to live, work and play, so we want to hear from you about what you pledge to do.

This is the start of a momentous year for Southampton and its residents. We want future citizens to look back on our generation and say we marked it well.

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1:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

redsnapper says...

I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles.

"Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links.

There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing.

Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition.

The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years."
I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles. "Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links. There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing. Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition. The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years." redsnapper
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...

If every citizen made 50 simple promises we could vastly improve our city.

I would like to kick off with a few.
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1. I will not drop litter in the street.
2. I will not drive over or park on verges.
3. I will not swear in a public place.
4. I will support local businesses that provide work for the people of Southampton.
5. I will not leave my waste bins on the pavements.
6 I will walk rather than drive when it is feasible.
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I am sure other people could come up with more simple actions that don't cost anything but make life better for everyone in our wonderful City.

Don't be a whinger be a Champion and make Southampton a better place.
If every citizen made 50 simple promises we could vastly improve our city. I would like to kick off with a few. . 1. I will not drop litter in the street. 2. I will not drive over or park on verges. 3. I will not swear in a public place. 4. I will support local businesses that provide work for the people of Southampton. 5. I will not leave my waste bins on the pavements. 6 I will walk rather than drive when it is feasible. . I am sure other people could come up with more simple actions that don't cost anything but make life better for everyone in our wonderful City. Don't be a whinger be a Champion and make Southampton a better place. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
  • Score: 6

2:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

KingMawwaw says...

How sad that - according to this story - the main focus of the celebration will be on royalty and religion. The queen and her pals refused to grant Southampton a Lord Mayor. What have we got to thank her for?

Good for the Echo though if they are going to highlight more positive things about the city.
How sad that - according to this story - the main focus of the celebration will be on royalty and religion. The queen and her pals refused to grant Southampton a Lord Mayor. What have we got to thank her for? Good for the Echo though if they are going to highlight more positive things about the city. KingMawwaw
  • Score: 5

3:32pm Mon 27 Jan 14

loosehead says...

redsnapper wrote:
I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles.

"Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links.

There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing.

Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition.

The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years."
so there's been no improvement on road access "access in and out of the city has been well documented of late"?
So were you around when the traffic had to go up or down Millbrook road East?
were you around when people I went to school with & a young lady who I fancied ( beautiful redhead) all had to move as there houses were demolished for part of the road we now have or Western Shore was lost to Millbrook residents to for the rest of the road?
Maybe when the Itchen bridge was built there was no idea on how much traffic would use it or the foresight to see how the development Of West Quay would add traffic to what was(even with cruise ships) a quiet part of town & maybe some idiots would like to see our history demolished to widen those roads.
But nothing to see really?
Tudour House. Wool House.Canutes palace remains the site where Canute tried to stop the waves the very spot the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the ships to go to America,The Red Lion pub where HenryV held court some of the most intact city walls (castle) in a large city.
the Bar Gate or Bargate Godshouse Tower listen to the Civic tower & hear the tune to a famous composer who has a statue here or the bombed out Holy Rood church these are a few of the old Historic sites then you can add the new ones.
I've been to Liverpool & they have less history than us yet have a thriving tourist industry why? because every hotel advertises it & gives out maps showing places of interest.
I could quite easily rip into this council but maybe it's about time the hotels & the council plus maybe the cruise companies got together ( as Moulton tried tom do) & produced something similar to Liverpool & people like you stopped berating our history & our city.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles. "Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links. There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing. Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition. The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years."[/p][/quote]so there's been no improvement on road access "access in and out of the city has been well documented of late"? So were you around when the traffic had to go up or down Millbrook road East? were you around when people I went to school with & a young lady who I fancied ( beautiful redhead) all had to move as there houses were demolished for part of the road we now have or Western Shore was lost to Millbrook residents to for the rest of the road? Maybe when the Itchen bridge was built there was no idea on how much traffic would use it or the foresight to see how the development Of West Quay would add traffic to what was(even with cruise ships) a quiet part of town & maybe some idiots would like to see our history demolished to widen those roads. But nothing to see really? Tudour House. Wool House.Canutes palace remains the site where Canute tried to stop the waves the very spot the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the ships to go to America,The Red Lion pub where HenryV held court some of the most intact city walls (castle) in a large city. the Bar Gate or Bargate Godshouse Tower listen to the Civic tower & hear the tune to a famous composer who has a statue here or the bombed out Holy Rood church these are a few of the old Historic sites then you can add the new ones. I've been to Liverpool & they have less history than us yet have a thriving tourist industry why? because every hotel advertises it & gives out maps showing places of interest. I could quite easily rip into this council but maybe it's about time the hotels & the council plus maybe the cruise companies got together ( as Moulton tried tom do) & produced something similar to Liverpool & people like you stopped berating our history & our city. loosehead
  • Score: 2

3:59pm Mon 27 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats! 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

5:17pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it! 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it! 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

redsnapper says...

loosehead wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles.

"Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links.

There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing.

Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition.

The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years."
so there's been no improvement on road access "access in and out of the city has been well documented of late"?
So were you around when the traffic had to go up or down Millbrook road East?
were you around when people I went to school with & a young lady who I fancied ( beautiful redhead) all had to move as there houses were demolished for part of the road we now have or Western Shore was lost to Millbrook residents to for the rest of the road?
Maybe when the Itchen bridge was built there was no idea on how much traffic would use it or the foresight to see how the development Of West Quay would add traffic to what was(even with cruise ships) a quiet part of town & maybe some idiots would like to see our history demolished to widen those roads.
But nothing to see really?
Tudour House. Wool House.Canutes palace remains the site where Canute tried to stop the waves the very spot the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the ships to go to America,The Red Lion pub where HenryV held court some of the most intact city walls (castle) in a large city.
the Bar Gate or Bargate Godshouse Tower listen to the Civic tower & hear the tune to a famous composer who has a statue here or the bombed out Holy Rood church these are a few of the old Historic sites then you can add the new ones.
I've been to Liverpool & they have less history than us yet have a thriving tourist industry why? because every hotel advertises it & gives out maps showing places of interest.
I could quite easily rip into this council but maybe it's about time the hotels & the council plus maybe the cruise companies got together ( as Moulton tried tom do) & produced something similar to Liverpool & people like you stopped berating our history & our city.
Not berating the history or the city just the ******ing useless council and councillors who have literally missed the boat , when it comes to making this the city it deserves to be.

Look at the recent transport shambles caused by Rayment and Co.s complete lack vision which lost £1000000's in future business as people caught in her traffic jams will not be coming back.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: I posted this elsewhere but the points still remain. The councillors have collectively failed to deliver a vision for this city which is blessed with so many natural assets. In stead they have created an poorly planned retail and transportation shambles. "Southampton has changed but for the worse. The ever unimaginative city council have failed completely to deliver a city to be proud of. It is and is known nationally as nothing more as an unplanned, poorly planned retail mess. A city with unequalled seafaring links has nothing of interest to promote or commemorate these links. There is no tourist attraction of any note to attract people and the complete lack of any waterfront zone which most port cities seem to have successfully developed us completely missing. Access in and out of the city has been well documented of late and thus incompetent council cannot even keep the magnificent Portland Stone that makes up their offices in a pristine condition. The City has been let down by one useless group of councillors followed by another for the last 120 years."[/p][/quote]so there's been no improvement on road access "access in and out of the city has been well documented of late"? So were you around when the traffic had to go up or down Millbrook road East? were you around when people I went to school with & a young lady who I fancied ( beautiful redhead) all had to move as there houses were demolished for part of the road we now have or Western Shore was lost to Millbrook residents to for the rest of the road? Maybe when the Itchen bridge was built there was no idea on how much traffic would use it or the foresight to see how the development Of West Quay would add traffic to what was(even with cruise ships) a quiet part of town & maybe some idiots would like to see our history demolished to widen those roads. But nothing to see really? Tudour House. Wool House.Canutes palace remains the site where Canute tried to stop the waves the very spot the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the ships to go to America,The Red Lion pub where HenryV held court some of the most intact city walls (castle) in a large city. the Bar Gate or Bargate Godshouse Tower listen to the Civic tower & hear the tune to a famous composer who has a statue here or the bombed out Holy Rood church these are a few of the old Historic sites then you can add the new ones. I've been to Liverpool & they have less history than us yet have a thriving tourist industry why? because every hotel advertises it & gives out maps showing places of interest. I could quite easily rip into this council but maybe it's about time the hotels & the council plus maybe the cruise companies got together ( as Moulton tried tom do) & produced something similar to Liverpool & people like you stopped berating our history & our city.[/p][/quote]Not berating the history or the city just the ******ing useless council and councillors who have literally missed the boat , when it comes to making this the city it deserves to be. Look at the recent transport shambles caused by Rayment and Co.s complete lack vision which lost £1000000's in future business as people caught in her traffic jams will not be coming back. redsnapper
  • Score: 0

6:24pm Mon 27 Jan 14

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists?
give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists? give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government? loosehead
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
Direct your complaint to the last Tory Council ........ They promised the earth and delivered nothing .......
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it![/p][/quote]Direct your complaint to the last Tory Council ........ They promised the earth and delivered nothing ....... Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

6:41pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
........ and was that YOUR idea then ???????
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it![/p][/quote]........ and was that YOUR idea then ??????? Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 1

6:52pm Mon 27 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists?
give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government?
According to today's Council Southampton's major tourist attraction is Sea City Museum and it sucks. It is overpriced. The same stuff was in the Maritime Museum where it only cost £2.50 to get in and before that it was free. The main exhibit was temporary and has now gone. Yes, there are some decent interactive things in there, but is in no way shape or form worth the £8.50 admission fee. I am an aviation enthusiast and as such like The Hall of Aviation- or Solent Sky as it's now known. The guys who work there do a great job and are really dedicated to what they do, but they get no help from the Council. The area where it is has been ruined and run down and nobody in their right mind would go down there. Whereas the Titanic museum is in a pristine location in the City Centre. That is wrong. Why can't we celebrate the Spitfire like we do the Titanic?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists? give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government?[/p][/quote]According to today's Council Southampton's major tourist attraction is Sea City Museum and it sucks. It is overpriced. The same stuff was in the Maritime Museum where it only cost £2.50 to get in and before that it was free. The main exhibit was temporary and has now gone. Yes, there are some decent interactive things in there, but is in no way shape or form worth the £8.50 admission fee. I am an aviation enthusiast and as such like The Hall of Aviation- or Solent Sky as it's now known. The guys who work there do a great job and are really dedicated to what they do, but they get no help from the Council. The area where it is has been ruined and run down and nobody in their right mind would go down there. Whereas the Titanic museum is in a pristine location in the City Centre. That is wrong. Why can't we celebrate the Spitfire like we do the Titanic? 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

8:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

230 repeat please says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
.
Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
.
....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
........ and was that YOUR idea then ???????
You seem to have cornered the market in overuse of full stops and question marks, presumably to cover the fact you have no interest or opinion on this story, other than trying to provoke those that have.

Even the most optimistic of souls will find it hard to celebrate 50 pledges to make the city a better place on the same day the council proposes cuts in staff and a reduction in opening hours at our tourist attractions. Perhaps one of the pledges should be to encourage people to visit these attractions, perhaps by lowering admission costs, so that we can keep them open for longer and staff can keep their jobs.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it![/p][/quote]........ and was that YOUR idea then ???????[/p][/quote]You seem to have cornered the market in overuse of full stops and question marks, presumably to cover the fact you have no interest or opinion on this story, other than trying to provoke those that have. Even the most optimistic of souls will find it hard to celebrate 50 pledges to make the city a better place on the same day the council proposes cuts in staff and a reduction in opening hours at our tourist attractions. Perhaps one of the pledges should be to encourage people to visit these attractions, perhaps by lowering admission costs, so that we can keep them open for longer and staff can keep their jobs. 230 repeat please
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8:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

230 repeat please wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner.
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Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know.
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....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water
yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it!
........ and was that YOUR idea then ???????
You seem to have cornered the market in overuse of full stops and question marks, presumably to cover the fact you have no interest or opinion on this story, other than trying to provoke those that have.

Even the most optimistic of souls will find it hard to celebrate 50 pledges to make the city a better place on the same day the council proposes cuts in staff and a reduction in opening hours at our tourist attractions. Perhaps one of the pledges should be to encourage people to visit these attractions, perhaps by lowering admission costs, so that we can keep them open for longer and staff can keep their jobs.
needs 20- 30 billion spent to bring it up to scratch , just seen a flying pig.
[quote][p][bold]230 repeat please[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]How do you know how many will be listened to? Why are you just a continual moaner. . Just because the ideas that you may come up with are not adopted perhaps others will be ....... you havent cornered the market in bright ideas you know. . ....... and judging by your previous posts you only seem to have one ...... and that involves frozen water[/p][/quote]yeah because a Spitfire memorial involves freezing water doesn't it![/p][/quote]........ and was that YOUR idea then ???????[/p][/quote]You seem to have cornered the market in overuse of full stops and question marks, presumably to cover the fact you have no interest or opinion on this story, other than trying to provoke those that have. Even the most optimistic of souls will find it hard to celebrate 50 pledges to make the city a better place on the same day the council proposes cuts in staff and a reduction in opening hours at our tourist attractions. Perhaps one of the pledges should be to encourage people to visit these attractions, perhaps by lowering admission costs, so that we can keep them open for longer and staff can keep their jobs.[/p][/quote]needs 20- 30 billion spent to bring it up to scratch , just seen a flying pig. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
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9:12am Tue 28 Jan 14

Saint Botley says...

What happened to the spitfire statue? I know they managed to **** up the design competition but has it all just been abandoned now? If done properly that would be a real asset to the waterfront.
What happened to the spitfire statue? I know they managed to **** up the design competition but has it all just been abandoned now? If done properly that would be a real asset to the waterfront. Saint Botley
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11:55am Tue 28 Jan 14

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats!
read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists?
give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government?
According to today's Council Southampton's major tourist attraction is Sea City Museum and it sucks. It is overpriced. The same stuff was in the Maritime Museum where it only cost £2.50 to get in and before that it was free. The main exhibit was temporary and has now gone. Yes, there are some decent interactive things in there, but is in no way shape or form worth the £8.50 admission fee. I am an aviation enthusiast and as such like The Hall of Aviation- or Solent Sky as it's now known. The guys who work there do a great job and are really dedicated to what they do, but they get no help from the Council. The area where it is has been ruined and run down and nobody in their right mind would go down there. Whereas the Titanic museum is in a pristine location in the City Centre. That is wrong. Why can't we celebrate the Spitfire like we do the Titanic?
I agree (about spitfire) & if you remember I put forward an idea for a tower with a flying spitfire with restaurant in say body & wings with the cockpit used as an observation tower if you just wanted to look out .
or just the body as a restaurant/cafe with again the **** pit being used as an observation tower this would have to look exactly like a Spitfire but to a larger scale but nice to hear the Sea City isn't the White Elephant most Left wing posts on here say it is
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Question is how many of our pledges will they actually listen to? It's all very well saying we want our history to be shown more and we want more leisure facilities and tourist attractions but we all know what will happen. They'll just twist it and give us even more shops, bars/restaurants, cinemas and flats![/p][/quote]read todays news! Tudor House hours to be cut? What is one of the main attractions for tourists? give back pay to high earning council staff ,cut jobs to low paid council staff & cut services then charge 1.9% more council tax each year to give those remaining pay rises & blame the Government?[/p][/quote]According to today's Council Southampton's major tourist attraction is Sea City Museum and it sucks. It is overpriced. The same stuff was in the Maritime Museum where it only cost £2.50 to get in and before that it was free. The main exhibit was temporary and has now gone. Yes, there are some decent interactive things in there, but is in no way shape or form worth the £8.50 admission fee. I am an aviation enthusiast and as such like The Hall of Aviation- or Solent Sky as it's now known. The guys who work there do a great job and are really dedicated to what they do, but they get no help from the Council. The area where it is has been ruined and run down and nobody in their right mind would go down there. Whereas the Titanic museum is in a pristine location in the City Centre. That is wrong. Why can't we celebrate the Spitfire like we do the Titanic?[/p][/quote]I agree (about spitfire) & if you remember I put forward an idea for a tower with a flying spitfire with restaurant in say body & wings with the cockpit used as an observation tower if you just wanted to look out . or just the body as a restaurant/cafe with again the **** pit being used as an observation tower this would have to look exactly like a Spitfire but to a larger scale but nice to hear the Sea City isn't the White Elephant most Left wing posts on here say it is loosehead
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