Mum fears leakiong roof will cause ceiling of Millbrook home to cave in

Daily Echo: Damp flat is "tearing family apart" Damp flat is "tearing family apart"

“I have had enough – it is tearing my family apart.”

These are the words of a Southampton mum-of-three, who is at the end of her tether because of mould in her two-bedroom flat.

Elisa Roe’s home in Millbrook has mould growing in all the rooms, with nearly every corner covered in large black spores.

She says it is aggravating her and her children’s asthma and it is so bad for her 14-year-old daughter Chloe-Leanne that she has decided to move out and go and live with her grandmother.

The family has had to throw away a TV, a wardrobe and toys because of the mould.

Elisa, 35, said: “It is disgusting, my children’s health is at risk and my daughter has had to stay with my mum.”

“It is causing so much stress because nothing is being done. I am worried about my little ones all the time because of this and it feels like no one is helping.”

Doctors have suggested that the family should be rehomed because of the impact on their health.

The problem at the home in Binsey Close began in 2012 when Elisa reported a leak to the council-owned flat.

Scaffolding was put up and work was carried out on the chimney. But damp continued to leak through the ceiling and a council letter has since revealed that tiles and lead work are missing from the roof.

During December’s heavy rain water poured through the ceiling and down the walls and Elisa fears it is only a matter of time before her roof caves in.

In a statement Southampton City Council did not say if it would rehome the family or why it has taken so long to resolve the problem. However, it did state what people should do should they have a mould or damp problem.

A council spokesman, said: “Our housing tenants should report any cases of damp to our Actionline, who log repair orders and forward them to our repairs team in order to be prioritised and allocated.

“The cause of damp may not be eliminated on the first repair visit on rare occasions, in which case we will attend the property again to re-assess and complete any further work that is required. “ l Tell us if you have damp problems. Contact Daily Echo reporter Michael Carr on 023 8042 485 or email him at michael.carr@dailyecho.co.uk.

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6:53pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Saintlyjas71 says...

Well your not the only ones !! There is 4 of us living in a damp ridden 1 bed flat !!! To be honest the councillors all say they will do something to get votes but do nothing...... By the way if the Western Challenge Housing officer accuses us again of breach or a housing agreement by having a child and threatening us with eviction again !! Yeah he knows who he is !!
Well your not the only ones !! There is 4 of us living in a damp ridden 1 bed flat !!! To be honest the councillors all say they will do something to get votes but do nothing...... By the way if the Western Challenge Housing officer accuses us again of breach or a housing agreement by having a child and threatening us with eviction again !! Yeah he knows who he is !! Saintlyjas71

6:56pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Huey says...

Well you get what you pay for
Well you get what you pay for Huey

7:34pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Yeah, I have a damp problem, my god **** bedroom window still leaks after 4 or 5 "repairs" have been made to it by the council, it leaks when it rains and it's not just a dribble, it's quite literally flowing past the seals.
Yeah, I have a damp problem, my god **** bedroom window still leaks after 4 or 5 "repairs" have been made to it by the council, it leaks when it rains and it's not just a dribble, it's quite literally flowing past the seals. Ginger_cyclist

7:56pm Sat 1 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ?
Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ? massimoosti

8:02pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

massimoosti wrote:
Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ?
So, you believe if someone isn't working, they and their children are not entitled to decent housing? That, of course, goes for pensioners as well.
Remember what you've just written, when you're old and frail.....
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ?[/p][/quote]So, you believe if someone isn't working, they and their children are not entitled to decent housing? That, of course, goes for pensioners as well. Remember what you've just written, when you're old and frail..... exforester

8:23pm Sat 1 Feb 14

LeTissiersEarLobe says...

Get a job
Get a job LeTissiersEarLobe

8:24pm Sat 1 Feb 14

friday says...

I think the word is leaking and it is mold, not mould. How did someone not see these typo's one is in the title?
I think the word is leaking and it is mold, not mould. How did someone not see these typo's one is in the title? friday

8:48pm Sat 1 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Get a dehumidifier.kill the mold with vinegar. Leave windows open heat your home regularly. Dont dry washing indoors.vent steam from cooking with an extractor.mold is everywhere its only black because it has been left so long and the walls have never been cleaned. Are you an adult or a child? Maybe you like the council to come round and do your cleaning for you.
And the echo should not print this as it is because of idleness that she has mold which has quite obviously been left to grow.
Get a dehumidifier.kill the mold with vinegar. Leave windows open heat your home regularly. Dont dry washing indoors.vent steam from cooking with an extractor.mold is everywhere its only black because it has been left so long and the walls have never been cleaned. Are you an adult or a child? Maybe you like the council to come round and do your cleaning for you. And the echo should not print this as it is because of idleness that she has mold which has quite obviously been left to grow. bigfella777

9:12pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

Fat lot of good a humidifier would be - try reading the article properly - tiles and lead work are missing from the roof! Or perhaps you would expect her to sort it herself.

Ah the humanity of the 'I'm all right Jacks'!

......and it's mould in English. .. Mold is in Flintshire......
Fat lot of good a humidifier would be - try reading the article properly - tiles and lead work are missing from the roof! Or perhaps you would expect her to sort it herself. Ah the humanity of the 'I'm all right Jacks'! ......and it's mould in English. .. Mold is in Flintshire...... exforester

9:51pm Sat 1 Feb 14

loosehead says...

where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents?
I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it?
She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too
where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents? I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it? She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too loosehead

9:54pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

This is a council-owned flat - it's to their advantage to keep their properties repaired and up to date. I don't suppose many of you realise the better condition they're in the more the council can get off mortgage companies.
Yes, they're mortgaged by the council.
This is a council-owned flat - it's to their advantage to keep their properties repaired and up to date. I don't suppose many of you realise the better condition they're in the more the council can get off mortgage companies. Yes, they're mortgaged by the council. exforester

10:24pm Sat 1 Feb 14

hays1179 says...

all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ! hays1179

10:25pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!!
Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!! exforester

10:27pm Sat 1 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable. sotonboy84

10:28pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
So I presume, if a council tenant has contents insurance, they're meant to claim on that - and watch their premiums go up a the council sit on their laurels, That's disgusting.
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]So I presume, if a council tenant has contents insurance, they're meant to claim on that - and watch their premiums go up a the council sit on their laurels, That's disgusting. exforester

10:33pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

exforester wrote:
This is a council-owned flat - it's to their advantage to keep their properties repaired and up to date. I don't suppose many of you realise the better condition they're in the more the council can get off mortgage companies.
Yes, they're mortgaged by the council.
Actually they are not mortgaged by any one. The Housing Revenue Account has the ability to borrow money to maintain and build. It is not borrowed from mortgage companies but at a preferential rate through government contacts. The amount the council can borrow is limited by the govewrnment.
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: This is a council-owned flat - it's to their advantage to keep their properties repaired and up to date. I don't suppose many of you realise the better condition they're in the more the council can get off mortgage companies. Yes, they're mortgaged by the council.[/p][/quote]Actually they are not mortgaged by any one. The Housing Revenue Account has the ability to borrow money to maintain and build. It is not borrowed from mortgage companies but at a preferential rate through government contacts. The amount the council can borrow is limited by the govewrnment. Inform Al

10:33pm Sat 1 Feb 14

hays1179 says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.
I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons !
The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions.
the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.[/p][/quote]I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons ! The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions. the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes hays1179

10:36pm Sat 1 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

exforester wrote:
hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
So I presume, if a council tenant has contents insurance, they're meant to claim on that - and watch their premiums go up a the council sit on their laurels, That's disgusting.
Yes of course, that's what insurance is for. Council properties are not a Devine right for an individuals with bells & whistles attached & devoid of any responsibility.
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]So I presume, if a council tenant has contents insurance, they're meant to claim on that - and watch their premiums go up a the council sit on their laurels, That's disgusting.[/p][/quote]Yes of course, that's what insurance is for. Council properties are not a Devine right for an individuals with bells & whistles attached & devoid of any responsibility. sotonboy84

10:36pm Sat 1 Feb 14

hays1179 says...

exforester wrote:
Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!!
they have the option to pay for contents insurance
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!![/p][/quote]they have the option to pay for contents insurance hays1179

10:39pm Sat 1 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

hays1179 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.
I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons !
The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions.
the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes
But if council housing is so inadequate, move out & give it to a more deserving person who will appreciate it.

Council spending isn't prioritised for council housing & anything left over spent on sculptures & cycle routes.
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.[/p][/quote]I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons ! The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions. the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes[/p][/quote]But if council housing is so inadequate, move out & give it to a more deserving person who will appreciate it. Council spending isn't prioritised for council housing & anything left over spent on sculptures & cycle routes. sotonboy84

10:40pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

hays1179 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
hays1179 wrote:
all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items.
It's a joke !
As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.
I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons !
The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions.
the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes
Different pocket, the Housing Revenue Account is ring fenced from the General fund, this was introduced by Maggie to stop councils using tenants money for rates purposes. Works up to a point as GF money is never spent on the HRA, wish it was always true the other way around.
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: all the old brick council flats in thornhill are the same cold damp and mouldy the council's idea of sorting the problem is putting a ghost wall up on top of the damp and telling you to keep the furniture away from the walls !! then the mould comes back again and again !! and when your possessions are damaged from the mould and you claim from the council insurance it takes over a year to get any money to replace your items. It's a joke ![/p][/quote]As I said above, lots of other properties to rent in Southampton, take a look on Rightmove as you should be able to find something more suitable.[/p][/quote]I live in my own property thanks but some are not as fortunate to be able to pick and choose where they live for lots of reasons ! The problem is the council have old properties that need to be pulled down and rebuilt so families can live in humane conditions. the council have money to waste on sculptures and cycle routes[/p][/quote]Different pocket, the Housing Revenue Account is ring fenced from the General fund, this was introduced by Maggie to stop councils using tenants money for rates purposes. Works up to a point as GF money is never spent on the HRA, wish it was always true the other way around. Inform Al

10:41pm Sat 1 Feb 14

exforester says...

hays1179 wrote:
exforester wrote:
Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!!
they have the option to pay for contents insurance
Hays 1179: they have the option to pay for contents insurance

But if they do - an some do - they're at a distinct disadvantage, due to the council's inactivity.
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: Council tenants don't need building insurance - they don't own the building - the owner/landlord is responsible for structural repairs - that's why tenants pay rent!!![/p][/quote]they have the option to pay for contents insurance[/p][/quote]Hays 1179: they have the option to pay for contents insurance But if they do - an some do - they're at a distinct disadvantage, due to the council's inactivity. exforester

11:45pm Sat 1 Feb 14

MPCBOS says...

Just a few points to ponder
1) Not all council tenants claim benefits
2) The private rental market in Southampton is over priced making it difficult to make the transition from being a council tenant to renting from a private landlord
3) It is irrelevant who pays the rent, all tenants have rights
Just a few points to ponder 1) Not all council tenants claim benefits 2) The private rental market in Southampton is over priced making it difficult to make the transition from being a council tenant to renting from a private landlord 3) It is irrelevant who pays the rent, all tenants have rights MPCBOS

3:36am Sun 2 Feb 14

metalmunki81 says...

wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill! metalmunki81

8:09am Sun 2 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
I see this post has been marked down by the fascist Tory trolls that infest this site. The only bit that you may have got wrong is that NO public tax money goes into council housing. It is totally funded by the tenants rent money. Nice to read a post containing common sense and decency on this site though.
[quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]I see this post has been marked down by the fascist Tory trolls that infest this site. The only bit that you may have got wrong is that NO public tax money goes into council housing. It is totally funded by the tenants rent money. Nice to read a post containing common sense and decency on this site though. Inform Al

8:40am Sun 2 Feb 14

freakout says...

Be thankful lady you have somewere to live and very cheap rent too !
I am late 40s through no fault of my own found myslef on my own after 25 years i pay private landlord £750 a month for a place damper than yours the walls dripping with water landlord has done nothing in the past 2 years to fix the problem ,Thankgoodness he has given me notice
But now i am going to be homeless the council wont house me as my children have left home agents want at least £1800 to move into a place plus £100 every 6 months to renew the contrat i work 60 hours a week and probaly end up having to live in my car as cannot afford stupid private rents,,I would rather be in your shoes with a roof over my head
Be thankful lady you have somewere to live and very cheap rent too ! I am late 40s through no fault of my own found myslef on my own after 25 years i pay private landlord £750 a month for a place damper than yours the walls dripping with water landlord has done nothing in the past 2 years to fix the problem ,Thankgoodness he has given me notice But now i am going to be homeless the council wont house me as my children have left home agents want at least £1800 to move into a place plus £100 every 6 months to renew the contrat i work 60 hours a week and probaly end up having to live in my car as cannot afford stupid private rents,,I would rather be in your shoes with a roof over my head freakout

8:54am Sun 2 Feb 14

loosehead says...

okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled?
do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled?
I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world!
yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people.
It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo.
A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?
okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled? do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled? I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world! yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people. It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo. A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden? loosehead

9:29am Sun 2 Feb 14

exforester says...

loosehead wrote:
okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled?
do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled?
I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world!
yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people.
It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo.
A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?
Let me try to explain:
If you are burgled and have no contents insurance, you have to replace things yourself, whether you live in a council house or own your house.
If you own your own house - whether you live in it or rent it, you have buildings insurance (mandatory) and, if you live in it, contents insurance.
If you own your own house have water coming in your roof, you use your buildings insurance to get it fixed, BEFORE it gets to the point of damaging your goods.
If you live in a council house and have water coming in your house, the council should fix it in a reasonable time - using THEIR building insurance. If they default on their contract don't fix it and it damages your property when you, as a council tenant have contents insurance which you claim on to replace your goods, your premium will go up.

Yes, some council tenants have contents insurance.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled? do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled? I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world! yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people. It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo. A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?[/p][/quote]Let me try to explain: If you are burgled and have no contents insurance, you have to replace things yourself, whether you live in a council house or own your house. If you own your own house - whether you live in it or rent it, you have buildings insurance (mandatory) and, if you live in it, contents insurance. If you own your own house have water coming in your roof, you use your buildings insurance to get it fixed, BEFORE it gets to the point of damaging your goods. If you live in a council house and have water coming in your house, the council should fix it in a reasonable time - using THEIR building insurance. If they default on their contract don't fix it and it damages your property when you, as a council tenant have contents insurance which you claim on to replace your goods, your premium will go up. Yes, some council tenants have contents insurance. exforester

9:48am Sun 2 Feb 14

Georgethepie says...

She could always hand the keys back and rent privately. At least this way she gets what she wants and brings her family back together.
She could always hand the keys back and rent privately. At least this way she gets what she wants and brings her family back together. Georgethepie

10:27am Sun 2 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

freakout wrote:
Be thankful lady you have somewere to live and very cheap rent too !
I am late 40s through no fault of my own found myslef on my own after 25 years i pay private landlord £750 a month for a place damper than yours the walls dripping with water landlord has done nothing in the past 2 years to fix the problem ,Thankgoodness he has given me notice
But now i am going to be homeless the council wont house me as my children have left home agents want at least £1800 to move into a place plus £100 every 6 months to renew the contrat i work 60 hours a week and probaly end up having to live in my car as cannot afford stupid private rents,,I would rather be in your shoes with a roof over my head
I completely agree with you. Private rents are very high & subsidised council rents are very low in comparison. People can become very complacent & if they have council housing & don't pay the rent themselves, don't appreciate what they have.

I feel for you but admire how you work hard to provide for yourself & I hope things get better for you soon.
[quote][p][bold]freakout[/bold] wrote: Be thankful lady you have somewere to live and very cheap rent too ! I am late 40s through no fault of my own found myslef on my own after 25 years i pay private landlord £750 a month for a place damper than yours the walls dripping with water landlord has done nothing in the past 2 years to fix the problem ,Thankgoodness he has given me notice But now i am going to be homeless the council wont house me as my children have left home agents want at least £1800 to move into a place plus £100 every 6 months to renew the contrat i work 60 hours a week and probaly end up having to live in my car as cannot afford stupid private rents,,I would rather be in your shoes with a roof over my head[/p][/quote]I completely agree with you. Private rents are very high & subsidised council rents are very low in comparison. People can become very complacent & if they have council housing & don't pay the rent themselves, don't appreciate what they have. I feel for you but admire how you work hard to provide for yourself & I hope things get better for you soon. sotonboy84

10:32am Sun 2 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

exforester wrote:
loosehead wrote:
okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled?
do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled?
I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world!
yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people.
It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo.
A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?
Let me try to explain:
If you are burgled and have no contents insurance, you have to replace things yourself, whether you live in a council house or own your house.
If you own your own house - whether you live in it or rent it, you have buildings insurance (mandatory) and, if you live in it, contents insurance.
If you own your own house have water coming in your roof, you use your buildings insurance to get it fixed, BEFORE it gets to the point of damaging your goods.
If you live in a council house and have water coming in your house, the council should fix it in a reasonable time - using THEIR building insurance. If they default on their contract don't fix it and it damages your property when you, as a council tenant have contents insurance which you claim on to replace your goods, your premium will go up.

Yes, some council tenants have contents insurance.
Buildings insurance is not mandatory if you own a property, only if you have a mortgage to protect the lenders investment.

Insurance is not about whose fault might cause damage, it's about being responsible & protecting your own property/possessions from any eventuality. If you make a claim & your premiums go up, welcome to the real world of providing for yourself.
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled? do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled? I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world! yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people. It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo. A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?[/p][/quote]Let me try to explain: If you are burgled and have no contents insurance, you have to replace things yourself, whether you live in a council house or own your house. If you own your own house - whether you live in it or rent it, you have buildings insurance (mandatory) and, if you live in it, contents insurance. If you own your own house have water coming in your roof, you use your buildings insurance to get it fixed, BEFORE it gets to the point of damaging your goods. If you live in a council house and have water coming in your house, the council should fix it in a reasonable time - using THEIR building insurance. If they default on their contract don't fix it and it damages your property when you, as a council tenant have contents insurance which you claim on to replace your goods, your premium will go up. Yes, some council tenants have contents insurance.[/p][/quote]Buildings insurance is not mandatory if you own a property, only if you have a mortgage to protect the lenders investment. Insurance is not about whose fault might cause damage, it's about being responsible & protecting your own property/possessions from any eventuality. If you make a claim & your premiums go up, welcome to the real world of providing for yourself. sotonboy84

10:33am Sun 2 Feb 14

exforester says...

If she is a single mother - and the article doesn't state it - though some 'charmers' here have presumed it, in a particularly vindictive way, then under recent Government changes, the chances are, in the private sector, her rent wouldn't be paid.

Besides which - she pays rent to a COUNCIL, not a private landlord, and they're under an agreement to mend structural faults.
Why should she move when the council isn't fulfilling their role?
They'd be quick enough to throw her out if she broke her side of the agreement.
If she is a single mother - and the article doesn't state it - though some 'charmers' here have presumed it, in a particularly vindictive way, then under recent Government changes, the chances are, in the private sector, her rent wouldn't be paid. Besides which - she pays rent to a COUNCIL, not a private landlord, and they're under an agreement to mend structural faults. Why should she move when the council isn't fulfilling their role? They'd be quick enough to throw her out if she broke her side of the agreement. exforester

11:26am Sun 2 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

exforester wrote:
If she is a single mother - and the article doesn't state it - though some 'charmers' here have presumed it, in a particularly vindictive way, then under recent Government changes, the chances are, in the private sector, her rent wouldn't be paid.

Besides which - she pays rent to a COUNCIL, not a private landlord, and they're under an agreement to mend structural faults.
Why should she move when the council isn't fulfilling their role?
They'd be quick enough to throw her out if she broke her side of the agreement.
But the council haven't broken their side of the agreement, they're addressing the issue.

Think above post from Teletubby answers all assumptions!
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: If she is a single mother - and the article doesn't state it - though some 'charmers' here have presumed it, in a particularly vindictive way, then under recent Government changes, the chances are, in the private sector, her rent wouldn't be paid. Besides which - she pays rent to a COUNCIL, not a private landlord, and they're under an agreement to mend structural faults. Why should she move when the council isn't fulfilling their role? They'd be quick enough to throw her out if she broke her side of the agreement.[/p][/quote]But the council haven't broken their side of the agreement, they're addressing the issue. Think above post from Teletubby answers all assumptions! sotonboy84

12:46pm Sun 2 Feb 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents?
I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it?
She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too
Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents? I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it? She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too[/p][/quote]Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats. southy

12:49pm Sun 2 Feb 14

BorislawGeorgiew says...

When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.
Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson BorislawGeorgiew

1:16pm Sun 2 Feb 14

southy says...

BorislawGeorgiew wrote:
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.
Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson
Very good quote and a truthful one
[quote][p][bold]BorislawGeorgiew[/bold] wrote: When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson[/p][/quote]Very good quote and a truthful one southy

1:21pm Sun 2 Feb 14

D.a.v.e says...

The Council have made it clear they are dealing with a roof repair. This is one of many being dealt with due to the recent storm conditions.
This is about a selfish woman who is trying to get re-housed by claiming to be the victim of what is such a common problem not just in Southampton but all over England.
There is no reason why she should not do her best for her childrens health and wash off any mould. No, it's much more dramatic to leave it there, phone The Echo and claim her kids have athsma because of her landlord's incompetance.
Funny how the "athsma" word pops up when tenants claim they have mold.
The Council have made it clear they are dealing with a roof repair. This is one of many being dealt with due to the recent storm conditions. This is about a selfish woman who is trying to get re-housed by claiming to be the victim of what is such a common problem not just in Southampton but all over England. There is no reason why she should not do her best for her childrens health and wash off any mould. No, it's much more dramatic to leave it there, phone The Echo and claim her kids have athsma because of her landlord's incompetance. Funny how the "athsma" word pops up when tenants claim they have mold. D.a.v.e

1:57pm Sun 2 Feb 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents?
I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it?
She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too
Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats.
So Southy when we had a Labour council for all those years why didn't they pull them down & build new ones?
looking at a recent photo of the flats they're pulling down on the east of the city they didn't look like prefabs so again why hasn't Labour acted & demolished these first?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents? I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it? She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too[/p][/quote]Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats.[/p][/quote]So Southy when we had a Labour council for all those years why didn't they pull them down & build new ones? looking at a recent photo of the flats they're pulling down on the east of the city they didn't look like prefabs so again why hasn't Labour acted & demolished these first? loosehead

2:00pm Sun 2 Feb 14

loosehead says...

D.a.v.e wrote:
The Council have made it clear they are dealing with a roof repair. This is one of many being dealt with due to the recent storm conditions.
This is about a selfish woman who is trying to get re-housed by claiming to be the victim of what is such a common problem not just in Southampton but all over England.
There is no reason why she should not do her best for her childrens health and wash off any mould. No, it's much more dramatic to leave it there, phone The Echo and claim her kids have athsma because of her landlord's incompetance.
Funny how the "athsma" word pops up when tenants claim they have mold.
I don't know this woman but I agree with you I wouldn't live in a house/flat with mould with out trying to get rid of it unless as I & you have suggested maybe she wants a house?
Maybe she can come on here & clarify the situation?
[quote][p][bold]D.a.v.e[/bold] wrote: The Council have made it clear they are dealing with a roof repair. This is one of many being dealt with due to the recent storm conditions. This is about a selfish woman who is trying to get re-housed by claiming to be the victim of what is such a common problem not just in Southampton but all over England. There is no reason why she should not do her best for her childrens health and wash off any mould. No, it's much more dramatic to leave it there, phone The Echo and claim her kids have athsma because of her landlord's incompetance. Funny how the "athsma" word pops up when tenants claim they have mold.[/p][/quote]I don't know this woman but I agree with you I wouldn't live in a house/flat with mould with out trying to get rid of it unless as I & you have suggested maybe she wants a house? Maybe she can come on here & clarify the situation? loosehead

2:17pm Sun 2 Feb 14

southy says...

Everything changes when you start to emit your own frequency rather than absorbing the frequencies around you, When you start to imprinting your intent on Universe rather than receiving imprint from existence.
Everything changes when you start to emit your own frequency rather than absorbing the frequencies around you, When you start to imprinting your intent on Universe rather than receiving imprint from existence. southy

2:20pm Sun 2 Feb 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents?
I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it?
She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too
Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats.
So Southy when we had a Labour council for all those years why didn't they pull them down & build new ones?
looking at a recent photo of the flats they're pulling down on the east of the city they didn't look like prefabs so again why hasn't Labour acted & demolished these first?
Because of Thatcher Tory Government made cuts and controlled the city finances
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: where did the lead go? did someone take it? do council tenants take out insurance on the property & contents? I know a Lady who owns a house in Winchester road after the wind & rain she has water pouring through/down the sides of her chimney but because she had insurance the insurance will fix it so can council tenants get the same insurance? has she got it? She can by a spray wipe of the black mould & spray it but the council will need to fix the roof & a de humidifier will help & drying the walls will too[/p][/quote]Loose you live around here long enough, to know that Binsey Close flats are prefabs and was built with a flat roof and only had a limited life of 30 years before being pulled down and rebuilt in brick, the apex roof was an added thing in the last 20 years to try an extend the life of the prefab flats.[/p][/quote]So Southy when we had a Labour council for all those years why didn't they pull them down & build new ones? looking at a recent photo of the flats they're pulling down on the east of the city they didn't look like prefabs so again why hasn't Labour acted & demolished these first?[/p][/quote]Because of Thatcher Tory Government made cuts and controlled the city finances southy

2:35pm Sun 2 Feb 14

southy says...

Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen
Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen southy

2:59pm Sun 2 Feb 14

friday says...

friday wrote:
I think the word is leaking and it is mold, not mould. How did someone not see these typo's one is in the title?
Why so many negatives? It still says leakiong in the title.....and on another note bleach and water will kill mold. I would be embarrassed to put myself in the paper publicly showing that I have mold in my flat....she can keep it at bay even if she cleans it each day. Why is playing the victim so appealing? Our parents generation and ones before would never let people know what was behind the door now it's everyones business. No class.
[quote][p][bold]friday[/bold] wrote: I think the word is leaking and it is mold, not mould. How did someone not see these typo's one is in the title?[/p][/quote]Why so many negatives? It still says leakiong in the title.....and on another note bleach and water will kill mold. I would be embarrassed to put myself in the paper publicly showing that I have mold in my flat....she can keep it at bay even if she cleans it each day. Why is playing the victim so appealing? Our parents generation and ones before would never let people know what was behind the door now it's everyones business. No class. friday

3:23pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
BorislawGeorgiew wrote:
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.
Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson
Very good quote and a truthful one
It's a clever but devious quote designed to suppress counter-argument when you are on shaky ground and is no different from stifling debate on immigration by condemning opposition to the debate as racism. Think 'speak the truth and shame the devil', 'speak the truth and it shall set you free', 'truth never damages a just cause (Gandhi, in case you're interested) amongst many other quotes that preceded Jackson's attempt. If people can't handle the truth and are upset by it, it's their problem but telling them the truth is a way to help them not judge them unless you are the sort of person who smells and does so because you don't wash and your 'friends' don't want to upset you by telling you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BorislawGeorgiew[/bold] wrote: When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping them up. - Jesse Jackson[/p][/quote]Very good quote and a truthful one[/p][/quote]It's a clever but devious quote designed to suppress counter-argument when you are on shaky ground and is no different from stifling debate on immigration by condemning opposition to the debate as racism. Think 'speak the truth and shame the devil', 'speak the truth and it shall set you free', 'truth never damages a just cause (Gandhi, in case you're interested) amongst many other quotes that preceded Jackson's attempt. If people can't handle the truth and are upset by it, it's their problem but telling them the truth is a way to help them not judge them unless you are the sort of person who smells and does so because you don't wash and your 'friends' don't want to upset you by telling you. Torchie1

5:08pm Sun 2 Feb 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen
What about the first council homes to be built in Southampton for a decade? This was done under the last Tory council I don't see or hear you banging on about that hey Southy? So exactly why are you again not attacking Labour? they are where your votes are going to come from if you get any!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen[/p][/quote]What about the first council homes to be built in Southampton for a decade? This was done under the last Tory council I don't see or hear you banging on about that hey Southy? So exactly why are you again not attacking Labour? they are where your votes are going to come from if you get any! loosehead

5:21pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled?
do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled?
I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world!
yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people.
It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo.
A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?
Not all Tories are fascist and I was referring to the fascist Tories, of which there do seem to be too many on this site. However if you think that applies to you, so be it
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: okay from a Tory troll as one idiot posted on here. What happens if your broken into & burgled? do you claim off the council as it was their fault you were burgled? I can't believe the post that says claiming off of your insurance puts up your premium/payments whoopeee welcome to the real world! yes it's the owners fault & has to fix structural work but I suggested ways to keep the mould at bay to help insure the health of these people. It's no good coming on here & blaming anyone when you've not taken any action but to report it to the council or the Echo. A de humidifier will help dry the walls,put on a face mask clean off the mould then spray on a mould killer this won't solve the problem if there's water coming in but it will keep it at bay until the roof is fixed or would the lady prefer to be rehoused say in a three bedroomed house with a garden?[/p][/quote]Not all Tories are fascist and I was referring to the fascist Tories, of which there do seem to be too many on this site. However if you think that applies to you, so be it Inform Al

5:38pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen
What about the first council homes to be built in Southampton for a decade? This was done under the last Tory council I don't see or hear you banging on about that hey Southy? So exactly why are you again not attacking Labour? they are where your votes are going to come from if you get any!
The conservatives did have quite a good record on council home building, uinfortunately they are now more interested in looking after their rich property owning party backers than the nation as a whole. Therefore council home building will be restricted until 2015.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Loose just look at what your Tory Council did under Smith sold the homes and land off Cumbrian way shops, perfectly good buildings nothing wrong with them and left that flat that do have problems on the other side of the Itchen[/p][/quote]What about the first council homes to be built in Southampton for a decade? This was done under the last Tory council I don't see or hear you banging on about that hey Southy? So exactly why are you again not attacking Labour? they are where your votes are going to come from if you get any![/p][/quote]The conservatives did have quite a good record on council home building, uinfortunately they are now more interested in looking after their rich property owning party backers than the nation as a whole. Therefore council home building will be restricted until 2015. Inform Al

5:51pm Sun 2 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

World doesn't owe anyone a living..............
.nor a home.
World doesn't owe anyone a living.............. .nor a home. massimoosti

11:35pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Quite Frankly says...

The problem here, as stated in the original article, is a leaking roof. The council has legal obligations to repair. Doesn't matter whether the tenant is working; how many children she has; etc, etc.

Ms Roe has a legitimate complaint. This was reported in 2012. The council needs to fix the roof.

Some of you commenting on this story need to take a long, hard look at yourselves. As well as learning some basic landlord and tenant law.

And, it is MOULD. Not mold, moled, or whatever else.
The problem here, as stated in the original article, is a leaking roof. The council has legal obligations to repair. Doesn't matter whether the tenant is working; how many children she has; etc, etc. Ms Roe has a legitimate complaint. This was reported in 2012. The council needs to fix the roof. Some of you commenting on this story need to take a long, hard look at yourselves. As well as learning some basic landlord and tenant law. And, it is MOULD. Not mold, moled, or whatever else. Quite Frankly

6:43am Mon 3 Feb 14

skeptik says...

The political art - whilst all suffer get the people to fight among themselves and blame each other - serves us all right then. Damage to a building costs more the longer the problem is ignored - lung disease and other problems cost the NHS - but hey lets have a go at folk - plenty of high paid jobs around -eh?
The political art - whilst all suffer get the people to fight among themselves and blame each other - serves us all right then. Damage to a building costs more the longer the problem is ignored - lung disease and other problems cost the NHS - but hey lets have a go at folk - plenty of high paid jobs around -eh? skeptik

6:49am Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Quite Frankly wrote:
The problem here, as stated in the original article, is a leaking roof. The council has legal obligations to repair. Doesn't matter whether the tenant is working; how many children she has; etc, etc.

Ms Roe has a legitimate complaint. This was reported in 2012. The council needs to fix the roof.

Some of you commenting on this story need to take a long, hard look at yourselves. As well as learning some basic landlord and tenant law.

And, it is MOULD. Not mold, moled, or whatever else.
most of us agree the council should fix the leak our argument is that she could/should take measures to kill the mould.
as she appears not to have done that & she surely isn't the only tenant effected the question is "is she trying to get rehoused into a house?"
I've lived in a house with damp & whilst I was waiting to get it fixed( contractors I'd pay for) I took measures to destroy it we just want to know has she? does she want as move to a house or is she happy with the flat?
[quote][p][bold]Quite Frankly[/bold] wrote: The problem here, as stated in the original article, is a leaking roof. The council has legal obligations to repair. Doesn't matter whether the tenant is working; how many children she has; etc, etc. Ms Roe has a legitimate complaint. This was reported in 2012. The council needs to fix the roof. Some of you commenting on this story need to take a long, hard look at yourselves. As well as learning some basic landlord and tenant law. And, it is MOULD. Not mold, moled, or whatever else.[/p][/quote]most of us agree the council should fix the leak our argument is that she could/should take measures to kill the mould. as she appears not to have done that & she surely isn't the only tenant effected the question is "is she trying to get rehoused into a house?" I've lived in a house with damp & whilst I was waiting to get it fixed( contractors I'd pay for) I took measures to destroy it we just want to know has she? does she want as move to a house or is she happy with the flat? loosehead

12:08pm Mon 3 Feb 14

From the sidelines says...

exforester wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ?
So, you believe if someone isn't working, they and their children are not entitled to decent housing? That, of course, goes for pensioners as well.
Remember what you've just written, when you're old and frail.....
Don't try and equate a pensioner who has worked and paid NI contributions all their life, with a career benefits sponge.

There is, as you know, a world of difference.
[quote][p][bold]exforester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Is the Mum of 3 working and paying rent or am I (working dad of one) paying ?[/p][/quote]So, you believe if someone isn't working, they and their children are not entitled to decent housing? That, of course, goes for pensioners as well. Remember what you've just written, when you're old and frail.....[/p][/quote]Don't try and equate a pensioner who has worked and paid NI contributions all their life, with a career benefits sponge. There is, as you know, a world of difference. From the sidelines

12:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

JBSAINT says...

I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain. JBSAINT

1:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
[quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up. Inform Al

1:52pm Mon 3 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

She should think herself lucky she hasn't got moles, It's a nightmare when they come up through the lawn, I blame fracking.
She should think herself lucky she hasn't got moles, It's a nightmare when they come up through the lawn, I blame fracking. bigfella777

2:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

whatwentwrongworld says...

My Nan had tiles blown from her roof which caused terrible damage inside the loft and the house was freezing too, there were also a million other issues with her house, and she couldn't afford to get it fixed as she was a pensioner... she didnt even have heating, the hot water was on an immersion tank, she had to re-re-mortgage her home to get the roof done as the council wrote to her saying that if one of the roof tiles had hit someone she would be liable....... as she had a tiny private pension she was never entitled to any benefits...... nowadays people have their hones provided by the council, with full benefits to live off and if something goes wrong they want the council to repair it immediately at no cost to them, they don't want to fend for themselves unlike my poor old nan in her 80's who worked from when she was 16 until way past the age of retirement. How about you spend less money on going out drinking at the weekends and smoking and save up to have the repairs made yourselves instead of expecting the council to do it, what do you think the rest of us do? We pay from our own pockets all the time, deposits, reference fees, admin fees, pet deposits, checking out deposits, contents insurance.... this is probably falling on deaf ears.......
My Nan had tiles blown from her roof which caused terrible damage inside the loft and the house was freezing too, there were also a million other issues with her house, and she couldn't afford to get it fixed as she was a pensioner... she didnt even have heating, the hot water was on an immersion tank, she had to re-re-mortgage her home to get the roof done as the council wrote to her saying that if one of the roof tiles had hit someone she would be liable....... as she had a tiny private pension she was never entitled to any benefits...... nowadays people have their hones provided by the council, with full benefits to live off and if something goes wrong they want the council to repair it immediately at no cost to them, they don't want to fend for themselves unlike my poor old nan in her 80's who worked from when she was 16 until way past the age of retirement. How about you spend less money on going out drinking at the weekends and smoking and save up to have the repairs made yourselves instead of expecting the council to do it, what do you think the rest of us do? We pay from our own pockets all the time, deposits, reference fees, admin fees, pet deposits, checking out deposits, contents insurance.... this is probably falling on deaf ears....... whatwentwrongworld

2:50pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

whatwentwrongworld wrote:
My Nan had tiles blown from her roof which caused terrible damage inside the loft and the house was freezing too, there were also a million other issues with her house, and she couldn't afford to get it fixed as she was a pensioner... she didnt even have heating, the hot water was on an immersion tank, she had to re-re-mortgage her home to get the roof done as the council wrote to her saying that if one of the roof tiles had hit someone she would be liable....... as she had a tiny private pension she was never entitled to any benefits...... nowadays people have their hones provided by the council, with full benefits to live off and if something goes wrong they want the council to repair it immediately at no cost to them, they don't want to fend for themselves unlike my poor old nan in her 80's who worked from when she was 16 until way past the age of retirement. How about you spend less money on going out drinking at the weekends and smoking and save up to have the repairs made yourselves instead of expecting the council to do it, what do you think the rest of us do? We pay from our own pockets all the time, deposits, reference fees, admin fees, pet deposits, checking out deposits, contents insurance.... this is probably falling on deaf ears.......
And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord.
[quote][p][bold]whatwentwrongworld[/bold] wrote: My Nan had tiles blown from her roof which caused terrible damage inside the loft and the house was freezing too, there were also a million other issues with her house, and she couldn't afford to get it fixed as she was a pensioner... she didnt even have heating, the hot water was on an immersion tank, she had to re-re-mortgage her home to get the roof done as the council wrote to her saying that if one of the roof tiles had hit someone she would be liable....... as she had a tiny private pension she was never entitled to any benefits...... nowadays people have their hones provided by the council, with full benefits to live off and if something goes wrong they want the council to repair it immediately at no cost to them, they don't want to fend for themselves unlike my poor old nan in her 80's who worked from when she was 16 until way past the age of retirement. How about you spend less money on going out drinking at the weekends and smoking and save up to have the repairs made yourselves instead of expecting the council to do it, what do you think the rest of us do? We pay from our own pockets all the time, deposits, reference fees, admin fees, pet deposits, checking out deposits, contents insurance.... this is probably falling on deaf ears.......[/p][/quote]And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord. Inform Al

4:43pm Mon 3 Feb 14

bangerprincess1978 says...

Teletubby wrote:
She's actually got 4 kids ! 1 she dumped of with her mother. Never had a job in her life ! Lazy scrounger !
yes i do have 4 kids and yes she lives with my mother but cant see what that has to do with this ive got a good idea who this maybe dont you think you should worry about your own life ... i have had a job in my life thanxs and we do pay full rent on this property a letter from the council saying on the 23rd dec you called us on behalf of out of hours emergency services i would like to apologise to you for the response you received when you called that we could not send a tradesman to vist your home in order to assist you to contain the leak and protect your ceiling,probably by laying plastic sheeting in your loft. im sorry this was not offered to you and the over all attitude of the officer was not what i would expect it to be ..... also when someone came out on the 2nd of january 2014 it was discovered that the rain water was ingressing due to missing tiles and lead work " its now 3rd feb on the 9th january my celing was tested and was told it has asbestos i was told by enviromental i was not to touch the mould cause its was not good for mine and kids health , i contacted the mp david fundell he got a email saying the roof was fixed when clear its still not fixed the council keep passing the buck i just want this problem fixed and my childrens health not to be affected by it everyones intitled to there say but this is only half the story in the paper
[quote][p][bold]Teletubby[/bold] wrote: She's actually got 4 kids ! 1 she dumped of with her mother. Never had a job in her life ! Lazy scrounger ![/p][/quote]yes i do have 4 kids and yes she lives with my mother but cant see what that has to do with this ive got a good idea who this maybe dont you think you should worry about your own life ... i have had a job in my life thanxs and we do pay full rent on this property a letter from the council saying on the 23rd dec you called us on behalf of out of hours emergency services i would like to apologise to you for the response you received when you called that we could not send a tradesman to vist your home in order to assist you to contain the leak and protect your ceiling,probably by laying plastic sheeting in your loft. im sorry this was not offered to you and the over all attitude of the officer was not what i would expect it to be ..... also when someone came out on the 2nd of january 2014 it was discovered that the rain water was ingressing due to missing tiles and lead work " its now 3rd feb on the 9th january my celing was tested and was told it has asbestos i was told by enviromental i was not to touch the mould cause its was not good for mine and kids health , i contacted the mp david fundell he got a email saying the roof was fixed when clear its still not fixed the council keep passing the buck i just want this problem fixed and my childrens health not to be affected by it everyones intitled to there say but this is only half the story in the paper bangerprincess1978

4:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

JBSAINT says...

Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
thank you Information Al. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address for the group?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.[/p][/quote]thank you Information Al. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address for the group? JBSAINT

4:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

JBSAINT says...

Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals? JBSAINT

5:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

dolphin68 says...

You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit
You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit dolphin68

5:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

JBSAINT wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?
80832549 michael.farleigh@sou
thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up.
[quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?[/p][/quote]80832549 michael.farleigh@sou thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up. Inform Al

5:23pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?
80832549 michael.farleigh@sou

thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up.
Sorry, typo 80832649
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?[/p][/quote]80832549 michael.farleigh@sou thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up.[/p][/quote]Sorry, typo 80832649 Inform Al

6:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

dolphin68 wrote:
You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit
who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there.
I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak.
I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house?
Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem?
so come on what's the matter with that post?
I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council
[quote][p][bold]dolphin68[/bold] wrote: You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit[/p][/quote]who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there. I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak. I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house? Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem? so come on what's the matter with that post? I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council loosehead

9:02pm Mon 3 Feb 14

greyfeather says...

3 kids in a 2 bed flat…another one looking for a nice 3/4 bed house? If she cares for her kids health so much why not private rent…i know i would whatever it took if my kids were sick because of where we lived!
3 kids in a 2 bed flat…another one looking for a nice 3/4 bed house? If she cares for her kids health so much why not private rent…i know i would whatever it took if my kids were sick because of where we lived! greyfeather

9:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

greyfeather says...

metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
[quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford. greyfeather

9:16pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
[quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax? loosehead

11:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible. Inform Al

12:41am Tue 4 Feb 14

Dave Of The South says...

If the council has not fixed the structure problem that is letting the water in then the council will be liable for any property damaged by mould. Try a small claims court. Also, if they are failing to keep property in "good repair" they are breaking tenancy agreement (works both ways you know!)- again get legal advice. However, clean off all the mould in the short term. DO NOT dry clothes in the building unless windows open. Keep steam to a minimum from cooking/bathing. Wipe all surfaces down every morning removing wetness. A bit of de-humidifying would be a good idea.
If the council has not fixed the structure problem that is letting the water in then the council will be liable for any property damaged by mould. Try a small claims court. Also, if they are failing to keep property in "good repair" they are breaking tenancy agreement (works both ways you know!)- again get legal advice. However, clean off all the mould in the short term. DO NOT dry clothes in the building unless windows open. Keep steam to a minimum from cooking/bathing. Wipe all surfaces down every morning removing wetness. A bit of de-humidifying would be a good idea. Dave Of The South

11:20am Tue 4 Feb 14

dolphin68 says...

loosehead wrote:
dolphin68 wrote:
You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit
who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there.
I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak.
I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house?
Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem?
so come on what's the matter with that post?
I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council
Read above remarks all digging because she has four kids all stating she on benefit she entitled to child tax credit she entitled to working tax credit and child benefit the post about this that i wrote has been removed stating that she was not english this is why i wrote it and yes to a certain person she does put her kids with there nan when my kids became ill because my old council house had damp problem my kids went to there nans until it was sorted thats what us parents do protect our kids grand parents enjoy time with there grandchildren theres many that dont get to share the luxury and it is only the oneside of the roof she lives on the top so gets the brunt of the lot
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolphin68[/bold] wrote: You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit[/p][/quote]who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there. I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak. I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house? Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem? so come on what's the matter with that post? I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council[/p][/quote]Read above remarks all digging because she has four kids all stating she on benefit she entitled to child tax credit she entitled to working tax credit and child benefit the post about this that i wrote has been removed stating that she was not english this is why i wrote it and yes to a certain person she does put her kids with there nan when my kids became ill because my old council house had damp problem my kids went to there nans until it was sorted thats what us parents do protect our kids grand parents enjoy time with there grandchildren theres many that dont get to share the luxury and it is only the oneside of the roof she lives on the top so gets the brunt of the lot dolphin68

11:54am Tue 4 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

dolphin68 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
dolphin68 wrote:
You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit
who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there.
I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak.
I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house?
Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem?
so come on what's the matter with that post?
I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council
Read above remarks all digging because she has four kids all stating she on benefit she entitled to child tax credit she entitled to working tax credit and child benefit the post about this that i wrote has been removed stating that she was not english this is why i wrote it and yes to a certain person she does put her kids with there nan when my kids became ill because my old council house had damp problem my kids went to there nans until it was sorted thats what us parents do protect our kids grand parents enjoy time with there grandchildren theres many that dont get to share the luxury and it is only the oneside of the roof she lives on the top so gets the brunt of the lot
Reading this one would be unsure as to whether English is your first language.

Aspire to work and aspire to elevate yourself socially.

Aspire to, by the blood and sweat of your own labour improve the living conditions and life for yourself and your children.

By following the above you will not only break the generation cycle but you will find your children will look up and respect your actions.

You'd be surprised to know how many people living in Chilworth grew up in Millbrook and Coxford with no opportunity and thought "F88K this for a life for us and our kids".

Don't cry about it - get of your arse and fix / improve it.
[quote][p][bold]dolphin68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolphin68[/bold] wrote: You all want to listen to yourselves 1. You all assume she on benefit well she pays rent and council tax 2. If this was members of your family you would not be slandering them 3. Its not her problem to climb ontop of a flat roof and repair the roof when the council repaired it the work was not carried out properly. As for insurance its contents only not buildings and for a block that had new windows in in sept 2013 and they leak its a joke so please all u people slandering an english yes english person make sure ur not on benefit[/p][/quote]who has said she wasn't English? Who has said she wasn't working? Not me I asked a question about insurance & a poster said it costs money to insure contents so I asked who was responsible if the flat got burgled so not knocking her there. I asked what measures she had taken to get rid of the mould & I said yes it was the councils responsibility to fix the leak. I also asked if she was hankering for a transfer to say a 3-4 bedroomed house? Why is it no other tenant in that block have reported this to the Echo is she the only one with a problem? so come on what's the matter with that post? I live in mid terraced house either side of me are council houses the Tiles on the out side wall are slipping down on the council house side so I phoned action line to see if they could fix them before they pull mine out & was told get the council tenant to phone he did & nothing so if these tiles go & bring mine down I'll have to sue the council[/p][/quote]Read above remarks all digging because she has four kids all stating she on benefit she entitled to child tax credit she entitled to working tax credit and child benefit the post about this that i wrote has been removed stating that she was not english this is why i wrote it and yes to a certain person she does put her kids with there nan when my kids became ill because my old council house had damp problem my kids went to there nans until it was sorted thats what us parents do protect our kids grand parents enjoy time with there grandchildren theres many that dont get to share the luxury and it is only the oneside of the roof she lives on the top so gets the brunt of the lot[/p][/quote]Reading this one would be unsure as to whether English is your first language. Aspire to work and aspire to elevate yourself socially. Aspire to, by the blood and sweat of your own labour improve the living conditions and life for yourself and your children. By following the above you will not only break the generation cycle but you will find your children will look up and respect your actions. You'd be surprised to know how many people living in Chilworth grew up in Millbrook and Coxford with no opportunity and thought "F88K this for a life for us and our kids". Don't cry about it - get of your arse and fix / improve it. massimoosti

12:10pm Tue 4 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making loosehead

1:21pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making[/p][/quote]That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral. Inform Al

2:02pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whatwentwrongworld says...

And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord.

Do you think people who have to rent privately have the choice to just 'get a mortgage' umm NO they don't, they cant afford to buy and that's why they pay ridiculously high rents. 'The rent paid by council tenants' ummm wrong again, she will undoubtedly be receiving 100% housing benefit, or maybe she has to pay £1.50 a week top up or something......... I don't agree with you. Have you ever rented through a letting agent? Let me tell you what happens when something breaks, you tell your letting agent and they say ok I will tell your landlord.... then the letting agent comes back and says the landlord has said no thanks I don't want to repair it but as a tenant you are more than welcome to get it repaired yourself, that's what happens in my experience and I have been renting privately for 15 years in all sorts of types of properties through different letting agents and in different towns. If you can just 'get a mortgage' willy nilly then clearly you are not in a position to understand........
And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord. Do you think people who have to rent privately have the choice to just 'get a mortgage' umm NO they don't, they cant afford to buy and that's why they pay ridiculously high rents. 'The rent paid by council tenants' ummm wrong again, she will undoubtedly be receiving 100% housing benefit, or maybe she has to pay £1.50 a week top up or something......... I don't agree with you. Have you ever rented through a letting agent? Let me tell you what happens when something breaks, you tell your letting agent and they say ok I will tell your landlord.... then the letting agent comes back and says the landlord has said no thanks I don't want to repair it but as a tenant you are more than welcome to get it repaired yourself, that's what happens in my experience and I have been renting privately for 15 years in all sorts of types of properties through different letting agents and in different towns. If you can just 'get a mortgage' willy nilly then clearly you are not in a position to understand........ whatwentwrongworld

2:57pm Tue 4 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.
so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you?
Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises.
Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right?
you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people.
As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states
if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you .
The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city,
stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour.
Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making[/p][/quote]That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.[/p][/quote]so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you? Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises. Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right? you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people. As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you . The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city, stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour. Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property loosehead

3:00pm Tue 4 Feb 14

loosehead says...

whatwentwrongworld wrote:
And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord.

Do you think people who have to rent privately have the choice to just 'get a mortgage' umm NO they don't, they cant afford to buy and that's why they pay ridiculously high rents. 'The rent paid by council tenants' ummm wrong again, she will undoubtedly be receiving 100% housing benefit, or maybe she has to pay £1.50 a week top up or something......... I don't agree with you. Have you ever rented through a letting agent? Let me tell you what happens when something breaks, you tell your letting agent and they say ok I will tell your landlord.... then the letting agent comes back and says the landlord has said no thanks I don't want to repair it but as a tenant you are more than welcome to get it repaired yourself, that's what happens in my experience and I have been renting privately for 15 years in all sorts of types of properties through different letting agents and in different towns. If you can just 'get a mortgage' willy nilly then clearly you are not in a position to understand........
you just don't get it do you? pay a fixed rent no worries about interest rates going up no worries about repairs that's the reason those who should & can afford to buy would rather be council tenants,
At this moment in time with low interest rates yes buying is cheaper than council rents but I've been buying when interest rates were in double figures & then which one was the cheaper option?
So new car,at least one holiday a year or buy your own home?
[quote][p][bold]whatwentwrongworld[/bold] wrote: And so it should. I bougfht my first house because the mortgage payments were less than paying rent, and that includes a council house at that time, if I could have got one. The rents paid by council tenants completely cover all the costs of initial building and then maintenance. The rents are set at a level to cover all this, so there is no reason at all for any tenant, private or social, to pay for repairs that should be done by the landlord. Do you think people who have to rent privately have the choice to just 'get a mortgage' umm NO they don't, they cant afford to buy and that's why they pay ridiculously high rents. 'The rent paid by council tenants' ummm wrong again, she will undoubtedly be receiving 100% housing benefit, or maybe she has to pay £1.50 a week top up or something......... I don't agree with you. Have you ever rented through a letting agent? Let me tell you what happens when something breaks, you tell your letting agent and they say ok I will tell your landlord.... then the letting agent comes back and says the landlord has said no thanks I don't want to repair it but as a tenant you are more than welcome to get it repaired yourself, that's what happens in my experience and I have been renting privately for 15 years in all sorts of types of properties through different letting agents and in different towns. If you can just 'get a mortgage' willy nilly then clearly you are not in a position to understand........[/p][/quote]you just don't get it do you? pay a fixed rent no worries about interest rates going up no worries about repairs that's the reason those who should & can afford to buy would rather be council tenants, At this moment in time with low interest rates yes buying is cheaper than council rents but I've been buying when interest rates were in double figures & then which one was the cheaper option? So new car,at least one holiday a year or buy your own home? loosehead

4:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.
so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you?
Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises.
Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right?
you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people.
As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states
if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you .
The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city,
stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour.
Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property
You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making[/p][/quote]That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.[/p][/quote]so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you? Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises. Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right? you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people. As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you . The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city, stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour. Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property[/p][/quote]You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie. Inform Al

5:38pm Tue 4 Feb 14

JBSAINT says...

Inform Al wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
JBSAINT wrote:
I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.
JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.
Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?
80832549 michael.farleigh@sou


thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up.
Sorry, typo 80832649
thanks for all your advice Inform Al. Will try this tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JBSAINT[/bold] wrote: I am a council tenant and work FULL TIME and DON'T claim benefits. I am just not able to afford to pay over £800 pm to a private landlord/lady. Yesterday I moved some furnitue in my bedroom and discovered a huge damp/mould patch. Phoned council this morning to report it and was asked if it was on an external wall. I told them it was and they said they would do an urgent inspection on the outside of the building in the next 25 days. To me 25 days to carry out what they call an urg repair is not very good. Weds I have someone coming out to look at the windows that leak when we have heavy rain.[/p][/quote]JBSAINT, please contact the Tenant Participation Unit, details are in Tenants Link, and ask them to forward your details to the Tenat Repairs Group, and if you wish the Tenant Resource Group that I sit on. I am more than prepared to chase this up.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your advice. Do you have a contact number or e-mail address of the dept that deals?[/p][/quote]80832549 michael.farleigh@sou thampton.gov.uk Mention Alan on TRG and tell him I am prepared to take this one up.[/p][/quote]Sorry, typo 80832649[/p][/quote]thanks for all your advice Inform Al. Will try this tomorrow. JBSAINT

6:03pm Tue 4 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.
so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you?
Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises.
Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right?
you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people.
As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states
if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you .
The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city,
stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour.
Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property
You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie.
see you can't get it into that thick head of yours unless they buy it it's not the family home it's our the residents of this cities house/property which we house families/people who aren't suppose to be capable of buying a property.
I was brought up in a council home & now some other family lives there so why isn't one of my brothers or sisters there? because we only rented it Get It!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making[/p][/quote]That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.[/p][/quote]so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you? Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises. Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right? you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people. As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you . The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city, stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour. Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property[/p][/quote]You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie.[/p][/quote]see you can't get it into that thick head of yours unless they buy it it's not the family home it's our the residents of this cities house/property which we house families/people who aren't suppose to be capable of buying a property. I was brought up in a council home & now some other family lives there so why isn't one of my brothers or sisters there? because we only rented it Get It! loosehead

7:26pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
greyfeather wrote:
metalmunki81 wrote:
wow, some real rays of sunshine here.

First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat.

Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect.

She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic.

Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill!
Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.
there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly.
you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home.
how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises.
we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused.
Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family .
but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size?
here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property.
if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?
There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.
really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want.
This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie.
I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap?
did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote?
I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap.
then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making
That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.
so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you?
Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises.
Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right?
you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people.
As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states
if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you .
The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city,
stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour.
Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property
You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie.
see you can't get it into that thick head of yours unless they buy it it's not the family home it's our the residents of this cities house/property which we house families/people who aren't suppose to be capable of buying a property.
I was brought up in a council home & now some other family lives there so why isn't one of my brothers or sisters there? because we only rented it Get It!
And you can't get it into you're extremely thick head that we all have rights to a decent way of life, even those who are unable to get high paying jobs.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greyfeather[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]metalmunki81[/bold] wrote: wow, some real rays of sunshine here. First of all, I work AND pay rent and probably pay a lot more tax than many of you, but even so if there was mold all over my house at this level, it would be the OWNER'S responsibility to fix it, not my own, which is why it is perfectly reasonable for this woman to expect the council to fix a council-owned flat. Even if you take issue with her personally (and I'm not sure why you would), that damp would need to be solved if the council ever wanted to SELL that flat - it's the first thing a potential buyer would expect. She's a mother of THREE living in a TWO-BEDROOM flat. She should be rehoused regardless of the damp issue. If part of my tax is to be used to help those less well off, at least do it with some semblance of logic. Some of you have made suggestions to minimise the damage, which is reasonable save for the idea of leaving the windows open with the heating on all day - that'd be a fun wait for the gas bill![/p][/quote]Why should she be rehoused? maybe she could of thought if she could house more children before having them like the rest of us have to! i can't afford a 4 bed house…therefore i only have 2 kids. like more cant afford.[/p][/quote]there was a time when you never had kids unless you could afford to look after them properly. you definitely never had kids unless you could give them a home. how times have changed we saw the tragic case of children burnt to death by the parents in an attempt to get larger premises. we've seen the death of two firemen & the flat residents had a history of setting fires to be rehoused. Now we have one resident in a block of flats going to the press about mould in the flat which isn't large enough for her family . but at the same time we're told there's not enough one & two bedroomed flats to allow residents to down size? here's one let her exchange with a couple living in a larger property. if this was advertised more then maybe tragedies wouldn't happen & we'd hear no more about the so called bedroom tax?[/p][/quote]There are insufficient smaller properties in Southampton for all those victims of the bedroom tax to downsize, even if they wish to. The councoil's housing dept has already started a scheme to enable transfers where possible.[/p][/quote]really? this article proves your wrong as to many cases of people who have countless kids decide to take action to get larger properties rather than buy & get one the size they want. This lady never had to have 4 kids but she chose to so well done for her for going to work but if she's after a larger property then Labours & your claim there's not enough smaller properties to allow people to down size is a lie. I've said in many posts before I leafletted(Lidls) around Foyes Corner & I've seen families with two-three children in one bedroom flats crying out to move to larger properties so why isn't there/wasn't there a way for council tenants to swap? did it serve the Labour council to just bang on about the so called bedroom tax saying there wasn't enough smaller properties when there is?to try to maintain it's vote? I would love the Echo to run a questionnaire where any council tenant in council or housing association housing who needed larger properties & under council laws they could have one wanted to swap. then let's see how many properties could be used to see this lie Labour & it's friends are making[/p][/quote]That there are too few smaller properties in Southampton for all the victims of the council tax to downsize to is a FACT. I have just got home from a meeting at the Civic where this position has been confirmed. It is also fact that those who have continually been claiming housing benefit for the same property for 17 years are not by present law liable to pay this tax so will not be looking to downsize, although the anti working class government are looking to close this loophole. There are about 70 council properties in Southampton affected by this and I am awaiting confirmation that the majority of these, if not all, are disabled. Not all people can afford to buy their own homes, if they are in work or noit, so social housing for them is very necessary, and like those who are better off, they should be in the position of deciding themselves if they wish to move. Just like their better off neighbours who can afford the buy their own homes. PS. there were no politicians at this meeting, it was completely neutral.[/p][/quote]so the "Labour" council tell you there's not enough smaller properties for those in larger properties to down size to & you believe them? Are you so into Labour you believe anything they tell you? Try walking around the council or Housing association flats across the city & you'll see many working young couples stuck in one bedroom flats( some two) with two adults & at least two children waiting to be rehoused in larger premises. Al next door to me is a "SINGLE" guy in a two bedroom house (council) yet I've seen mothers dragging pushchairs whilst trying to carry more than one child up to the top flight of stairs to a one bedroom flat are you saying that's right? you are dreaming if you believe that with proper management there isn't enough smaller properties to rehouse these people. As such you must know that part of the form you fill out at Homebid it states if your circumstances change you must inform the council as this could mean the property is either to big or to small for your needs & they will look at rehousing you . The problem has risen that isn't happening & for some reason people like you somehow consider those houses/flats as the family home where it isn't it belongs to the council which means us the residents of this city, stop that bottle neck swap those two groups around & then you & this Labour Council won't have any reason to try to persuade us into voting Labour. Keep the status Quo & it gives you the old argument of Bedroom tax so come clean & admit with proper management there would be no one losing benefits as they would be in the right size property[/p][/quote]You obviously know nothing about housing law, and not being a political donkey I do not subscribe or bleat to the tune of any party. I knew you would follow the inhuman dictate of the party you unthinkingly follow which is why I emphasised there were no politicians present at the meeting, just reasonable people, officers and us plebs, who just want the best for all of us. As far as I am concerned the right property is the family home the kids were brought up in and wish to visit, just like those who could afford to buy their own home, the choice to move should be theirs. In order for this to happen the government must authorise the building of the necessary social housing. This will not happen before 2015 as the Tory's rich property owning backers will be upset when house prices then fall to a level affordable to the ordinary working man. Just as they were under Maggie.[/p][/quote]see you can't get it into that thick head of yours unless they buy it it's not the family home it's our the residents of this cities house/property which we house families/people who aren't suppose to be capable of buying a property. I was brought up in a council home & now some other family lives there so why isn't one of my brothers or sisters there? because we only rented it Get It![/p][/quote]And you can't get it into you're extremely thick head that we all have rights to a decent way of life, even those who are unable to get high paying jobs. Inform Al

2:14pm Wed 5 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
"we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...." massimoosti

4:04pm Wed 5 Feb 14

loosehead says...

massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said! loosehead

5:21pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram. Inform Al

12:02pm Fri 7 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home! loosehead

1:41pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally? Inform Al

3:43pm Fri 7 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it !
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?[/p][/quote]I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it ! loosehead

4:11pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it !
Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?[/p][/quote]I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it ![/p][/quote]Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried. Inform Al

5:17pm Fri 7 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it !
Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.
I thank you for that but I'm on a company pension
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?[/p][/quote]I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it ![/p][/quote]Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.[/p][/quote]I thank you for that but I'm on a company pension loosehead

5:21pm Fri 7 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it !
Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.
oh! I forgot to say I'm selling up & either moving North to take on a much lower mortgage which I can pay off or I'm moving back to Thailand.
Al we don't see eye to eye unless it's about the EU but you post your name do you get people coming to where you live to attack you?
I've posted my name several times & told people the area I live in & had no problems yet some one reckons if you give your name you'll reap the rewards? what do you think that means?
If i don't hear back from you have a nice weekend!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?[/p][/quote]I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it ![/p][/quote]Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.[/p][/quote]oh! I forgot to say I'm selling up & either moving North to take on a much lower mortgage which I can pay off or I'm moving back to Thailand. Al we don't see eye to eye unless it's about the EU but you post your name do you get people coming to where you live to attack you? I've posted my name several times & told people the area I live in & had no problems yet some one reckons if you give your name you'll reap the rewards? what do you think that means? If i don't hear back from you have a nice weekend! loosehead

8:22pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
"we all have rights to a decent way of life"

and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."
well said!
Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.
i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home!
The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?
I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it !
Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.
oh! I forgot to say I'm selling up & either moving North to take on a much lower mortgage which I can pay off or I'm moving back to Thailand.
Al we don't see eye to eye unless it's about the EU but you post your name do you get people coming to where you live to attack you?
I've posted my name several times & told people the area I live in & had no problems yet some one reckons if you give your name you'll reap the rewards? what do you think that means?
If i don't hear back from you have a nice weekend!
Most people around here know who I am and respect my views, well mostly. Much as I respect a local Leb Dim councillor who is a very good councillor but belongs to a crap party and I suspect she will not be a councillor after the election this year. It is ironic that the two Leb Dim councillors we have had in the Southampton North area have both been very good. Have a good one yourself.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: "we all have rights to a decent way of life" and there lies the problem - "the world owes me...."[/p][/quote]well said![/p][/quote]Now I realise why I keep getting an image of children throwing toys out of a pram.[/p][/quote]i'm not on super pay before tax I'm on about £18,000 which is far less than many on Social yet I'm buying my home![/p][/quote]The first house I bought cost under £3000, and if I had not paid the mortgage off years ago would have been paid up about ten years ago. That house was recently sold for £180,000. How much did the house you are still paying off cost originally?[/p][/quote]I paid £135,000 & have £88,500 still to pay on it ![/p][/quote]Good luck then, just hope your job is secure as the MIRAS scheme to pay the interest on mortgages introduced by Maggie was stopped by a Labour government. If I had to rely on earning an income now to keep the roof over my head I would be worried.[/p][/quote]oh! I forgot to say I'm selling up & either moving North to take on a much lower mortgage which I can pay off or I'm moving back to Thailand. Al we don't see eye to eye unless it's about the EU but you post your name do you get people coming to where you live to attack you? I've posted my name several times & told people the area I live in & had no problems yet some one reckons if you give your name you'll reap the rewards? what do you think that means? If i don't hear back from you have a nice weekend![/p][/quote]Most people around here know who I am and respect my views, well mostly. Much as I respect a local Leb Dim councillor who is a very good councillor but belongs to a crap party and I suspect she will not be a councillor after the election this year. It is ironic that the two Leb Dim councillors we have had in the Southampton North area have both been very good. Have a good one yourself. Inform Al

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