Southampton City Council approves £14.4m budget cuts

Daily Echo: Council approves £14.4m budget cuts Council approves £14.4m budget cuts

SOUTHAMPTON CITY COUNCIL this afternoon agreed budget cuts of over £14m for the next year.

Up to 35 people could lose their jobs as a result of the budget being agreed, and council tax in the city will rise by just under two per cent.

Labour councillor, Stephen Barnes-Andrews said : "The approach we have taken is to be as efficient as possible."

The cuts include axing the £110,000 subsidy to the free CityLink bus service, as well as 'deleting' a number of posts at the council that are currently vacant, in an attempt to keep the number of redundancies to a minimum.

The leader of the council, Cllr Simon Letts defended his group's record in "enhancing" Southampton by pointing to the Arts Complex, which work started on last year, and the Watermark West Quay project, which will begin in the autumn.

He also criticised Government funding cuts which he said had disproportionately hit Southampton in comparison with its more affluent neighbour, Winchester.

However the opposition attacked the Labour budget, ofering alternatives such as cutting the number of councillors.

Keith Morrell, from Putting People First, warned that following this year's budget there is now "nowhere for the council to hide" and that frontline services will be "brutalised" in subsequent years.

A single shout of "shame on you" came down from the public gallery as the result of he the vote was confirmed.

Only the Labour group voted for the budget, but due to the party's majority, the fact that all of he them voted for it got it over the line.

An alternative budget from the Lib Dems was defeated, with just two Liberal Democrat councillors voting for it.

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5:32pm Wed 12 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

yet they still find money to build silly cycle lanes on bridges and silly blue lights on bridges the list goes on and on and on ;ets hope they start at the top and work down
yet they still find money to build silly cycle lanes on bridges and silly blue lights on bridges the list goes on and on and on ;ets hope they start at the top and work down mickey01

6:05pm Wed 12 Feb 14

190385saints says...

They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.
They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk. 190385saints

6:40pm Wed 12 Feb 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

Southampton is one of the hardest-hit cities in the country when it comes to the reduction in central government's contribution to the city's finances. Contrast it with Winchester, which has seen its funding per head cut by only £27 in the last 4 years, compared with Southampton's drastic amount of £148. The Conservatives on the council meanwhile are happy to snipe from the sidelines but not prepared to publish their own 'alternative' budget. The truth is the council is heavily strapped for cash, and the Labour group is generally managing to do a very good job under extremely difficult circumstances.
Southampton is one of the hardest-hit cities in the country when it comes to the reduction in central government's contribution to the city's finances. Contrast it with Winchester, which has seen its funding per head cut by only £27 in the last 4 years, compared with Southampton's drastic amount of £148. The Conservatives on the council meanwhile are happy to snipe from the sidelines but not prepared to publish their own 'alternative' budget. The truth is the council is heavily strapped for cash, and the Labour group is generally managing to do a very good job under extremely difficult circumstances. WalkingOnAWire

6:41pm Wed 12 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Sad that some will lose their jobs. However, the jobs left have maintained their value and that is thanks to labour. These cuts were coming whichever way you sliced it
Sad that some will lose their jobs. However, the jobs left have maintained their value and that is thanks to labour. These cuts were coming whichever way you sliced it KSO16R

7:10pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

190385saints wrote:
They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.
Better keep an eye open for Elvis loves Pets, the. Beer Baccy and Crumpet party, and all the other fruit loop candidates that Tusc can't seem to beat at the ballot box.
[quote][p][bold]190385saints[/bold] wrote: They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.[/p][/quote]Better keep an eye open for Elvis loves Pets, the. Beer Baccy and Crumpet party, and all the other fruit loop candidates that Tusc can't seem to beat at the ballot box. Torchie1

7:18pm Wed 12 Feb 14

saint61 says...

Looking after families and the working class. Principals of the Labour Party.........my arse !!!
Looking after families and the working class. Principals of the Labour Party.........my arse !!! saint61

7:40pm Wed 12 Feb 14

befriendly says...

190385saints wrote:
They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.
It's about time you and your ilk faced reality. Government money comes from taxes, which means yours and my pockets. You moan about cuts but until you can tell me and the rest your hoping to persuade to vote for you where you intend getting the money from to avoid the cuts you've no hope. Labour bankrupted the country deliberately. They knew there would have to be severe cuts and planed on being voted back in on the back of the tories becoming unpopular because of what they had to do to get the country solvent again. Labour spend, tories save, its been that way for decades and will remain so until the populace can see beyond the promises of politicians. The country yo yo's like an army marching, left right left right. Until our parliament has enough independents to vote through laws that are good for the country and not the party in power we'll continue lurching along from being broke to breaking even.
[quote][p][bold]190385saints[/bold] wrote: They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.[/p][/quote]It's about time you and your ilk faced reality. Government money comes from taxes, which means yours and my pockets. You moan about cuts but until you can tell me and the rest your hoping to persuade to vote for you where you intend getting the money from to avoid the cuts you've no hope. Labour bankrupted the country deliberately. They knew there would have to be severe cuts and planed on being voted back in on the back of the tories becoming unpopular because of what they had to do to get the country solvent again. Labour spend, tories save, its been that way for decades and will remain so until the populace can see beyond the promises of politicians. The country yo yo's like an army marching, left right left right. Until our parliament has enough independents to vote through laws that are good for the country and not the party in power we'll continue lurching along from being broke to breaking even. befriendly

8:06pm Wed 12 Feb 14

190385saints says...

befriendly wrote:
190385saints wrote:
They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.
It's about time you and your ilk faced reality. Government money comes from taxes, which means yours and my pockets. You moan about cuts but until you can tell me and the rest your hoping to persuade to vote for you where you intend getting the money from to avoid the cuts you've no hope. Labour bankrupted the country deliberately. They knew there would have to be severe cuts and planed on being voted back in on the back of the tories becoming unpopular because of what they had to do to get the country solvent again. Labour spend, tories save, its been that way for decades and will remain so until the populace can see beyond the promises of politicians. The country yo yo's like an army marching, left right left right. Until our parliament has enough independents to vote through laws that are good for the country and not the party in power we'll continue lurching along from being broke to breaking even.
How about cutting down on tax evasion and increasing the tax on big business and the rich for a start!?
[quote][p][bold]befriendly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]190385saints[/bold] wrote: They've already cut tens of millions of pounds and continue to do more damage to local services and workers. It's a disgrace - these cuts are hitting the most vulnerable people the hardest. What is the point in a Labour council if they don't stand up to central government Tory cuts. Labour should be opposing all cuts to workers and services. I have great respect for councillors like Keith Morrell and Don Thomas who stand up against all cuts. We need more like them. I for one will be putting myself forward as an anti-cuts councillor under the TUSC banner and so will many across the city, why don't you? See TUSC.org.uk.[/p][/quote]It's about time you and your ilk faced reality. Government money comes from taxes, which means yours and my pockets. You moan about cuts but until you can tell me and the rest your hoping to persuade to vote for you where you intend getting the money from to avoid the cuts you've no hope. Labour bankrupted the country deliberately. They knew there would have to be severe cuts and planed on being voted back in on the back of the tories becoming unpopular because of what they had to do to get the country solvent again. Labour spend, tories save, its been that way for decades and will remain so until the populace can see beyond the promises of politicians. The country yo yo's like an army marching, left right left right. Until our parliament has enough independents to vote through laws that are good for the country and not the party in power we'll continue lurching along from being broke to breaking even.[/p][/quote]How about cutting down on tax evasion and increasing the tax on big business and the rich for a start!? 190385saints

9:32pm Wed 12 Feb 14

loosehead says...

So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it.
they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions.
Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town?
They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money.
Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money?
But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we?
Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year?
they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do
So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it. they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions. Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town? They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money. Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money? But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we? Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year? they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do loosehead

9:36pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Southampton is one of the hardest-hit cities in the country when it comes to the reduction in central government's contribution to the city's finances. Contrast it with Winchester, which has seen its funding per head cut by only £27 in the last 4 years, compared with Southampton's drastic amount of £148. The Conservatives on the council meanwhile are happy to snipe from the sidelines but not prepared to publish their own 'alternative' budget. The truth is the council is heavily strapped for cash, and the Labour group is generally managing to do a very good job under extremely difficult circumstances.
Nice try but I think you'll find there is a world of difference in the handling of finances at Winchester Council. Yes I agree the cuts from central government are severe, but they do make sense. Winchester also spend their money where it should be spent.
Southampton City has received a harsh deal from Central Gov in cutting our budget award , but it is for a reason. We are being penalised as a city for the years of overspend and LOST capital receipts whilst our Lab council continue with projects that they favour.
The REAL truth is Southampton residents are very strapped for cash, due to the political decisions made by Labour in where to save money. Now this Labour council want to take it out on us all the more.
Let me tell you that Labour were in charge of capital receipts, no-one else.
As for others you say are sniping from the sidelines, how do you know they're not sitting back with feet up waiting for the inevitable Big Bang ?
No-one can make an ounce of difference to what this Labour lot want to do. So why not fully recharge, kick back, relax and wait a while longer?!?
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: Southampton is one of the hardest-hit cities in the country when it comes to the reduction in central government's contribution to the city's finances. Contrast it with Winchester, which has seen its funding per head cut by only £27 in the last 4 years, compared with Southampton's drastic amount of £148. The Conservatives on the council meanwhile are happy to snipe from the sidelines but not prepared to publish their own 'alternative' budget. The truth is the council is heavily strapped for cash, and the Labour group is generally managing to do a very good job under extremely difficult circumstances.[/p][/quote]Nice try but I think you'll find there is a world of difference in the handling of finances at Winchester Council. Yes I agree the cuts from central government are severe, but they do make sense. Winchester also spend their money where it should be spent. Southampton City has received a harsh deal from Central Gov in cutting our budget award , but it is for a reason. We are being penalised as a city for the years of overspend and LOST capital receipts whilst our Lab council continue with projects that they favour. The REAL truth is Southampton residents are very strapped for cash, due to the political decisions made by Labour in where to save money. Now this Labour council want to take it out on us all the more. Let me tell you that Labour were in charge of capital receipts, no-one else. As for others you say are sniping from the sidelines, how do you know they're not sitting back with feet up waiting for the inevitable Big Bang ? No-one can make an ounce of difference to what this Labour lot want to do. So why not fully recharge, kick back, relax and wait a while longer?!? Ronnie G

9:52pm Wed 12 Feb 14

allstar says...

I bet they will not cut the free parking perk , I am fed with all these cuts When these lazy overpaid leaders cut vital services They have their snouts in the trough all of them whatever the party.
How about this for an idea to raise funds . I support my family on a wage of £18000 per year and work very hard for this , I neither want or claim any benefits at all , So why the hell should I and many others subsidise people living in council accommodation to keep their rents low and pay for repairs , Those that earn a good wage should pay the going rate . I would go one stage further and end completely the welfare payments for all but the elderly and those unable to work through ill health , I am fed up paying for those that are in the benefit trap . It needs a wakeup call in this country to stop wasting so much money on those that rely on benefits.
I bet they will not cut the free parking perk , I am fed with all these cuts When these lazy overpaid leaders cut vital services They have their snouts in the trough all of them whatever the party. How about this for an idea to raise funds . I support my family on a wage of £18000 per year and work very hard for this , I neither want or claim any benefits at all , So why the hell should I and many others subsidise people living in council accommodation to keep their rents low and pay for repairs , Those that earn a good wage should pay the going rate . I would go one stage further and end completely the welfare payments for all but the elderly and those unable to work through ill health , I am fed up paying for those that are in the benefit trap . It needs a wakeup call in this country to stop wasting so much money on those that rely on benefits. allstar

11:49pm Wed 12 Feb 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

allstar wrote:
I bet they will not cut the free parking perk , I am fed with all these cuts When these lazy overpaid leaders cut vital services They have their snouts in the trough all of them whatever the party.
How about this for an idea to raise funds . I support my family on a wage of £18000 per year and work very hard for this , I neither want or claim any benefits at all , So why the hell should I and many others subsidise people living in council accommodation to keep their rents low and pay for repairs , Those that earn a good wage should pay the going rate . I would go one stage further and end completely the welfare payments for all but the elderly and those unable to work through ill health , I am fed up paying for those that are in the benefit trap . It needs a wakeup call in this country to stop wasting so much money on those that rely on benefits.
So if you lost your job, through no fault of your own, would you be OK to not receive any benefits while you look for another one? That seems to be what you're advocating.
[quote][p][bold]allstar[/bold] wrote: I bet they will not cut the free parking perk , I am fed with all these cuts When these lazy overpaid leaders cut vital services They have their snouts in the trough all of them whatever the party. How about this for an idea to raise funds . I support my family on a wage of £18000 per year and work very hard for this , I neither want or claim any benefits at all , So why the hell should I and many others subsidise people living in council accommodation to keep their rents low and pay for repairs , Those that earn a good wage should pay the going rate . I would go one stage further and end completely the welfare payments for all but the elderly and those unable to work through ill health , I am fed up paying for those that are in the benefit trap . It needs a wakeup call in this country to stop wasting so much money on those that rely on benefits.[/p][/quote]So if you lost your job, through no fault of your own, would you be OK to not receive any benefits while you look for another one? That seems to be what you're advocating. WalkingOnAWire

7:20am Thu 13 Feb 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

loosehead wrote:
So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it.
they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions.
Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town?
They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money.
Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money?
But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we?
Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year?
they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do
I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it. they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions. Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town? They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money. Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money? But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we? Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year? they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do[/p][/quote]I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children. FoysCornerBoy

8:04am Thu 13 Feb 14

loosehead says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it.
they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions.
Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town?
They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money.
Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money?
But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we?
Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year?
they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do
I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.
well as you usually are in the know the last Tory Council struck up a deal with the Islands are you with me so far?
The top management posts would be shared by both councils still with me?
Instead of there being two loads of management there would be only one so managers (HIGH TOP EARNERS) would lose their jobs & would through e-mails/Skype keep in contact with their departments on the island or here so cutting out the equivalent of two million in each council of top earners wages & not having to cut low wage workers jobs are you still there?
Sorry about the way I've replied but it was Williams who scrapped it.
In the article & since Adermoorboy has said about it Lone Ranger has asked him to explain how it would work I've replied he knew I knew about it but doubted if Aldermoorboy did .
So I'm really shocked you're calling it a Myth?
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it. they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions. Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town? They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money. Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money? But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we? Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year? they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do[/p][/quote]I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.[/p][/quote]well as you usually are in the know the last Tory Council struck up a deal with the Islands are you with me so far? The top management posts would be shared by both councils still with me? Instead of there being two loads of management there would be only one so managers (HIGH TOP EARNERS) would lose their jobs & would through e-mails/Skype keep in contact with their departments on the island or here so cutting out the equivalent of two million in each council of top earners wages & not having to cut low wage workers jobs are you still there? Sorry about the way I've replied but it was Williams who scrapped it. In the article & since Adermoorboy has said about it Lone Ranger has asked him to explain how it would work I've replied he knew I knew about it but doubted if Aldermoorboy did . So I'm really shocked you're calling it a Myth? loosehead

8:07am Thu 13 Feb 14

loosehead says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it.
they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions.
Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town?
They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money.
Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money?
But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we?
Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year?
they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do
I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.
here to prove it wasn't a myth!
COUNCIL bosses in Southampton and the Isle of Wight have unveiled plans to share jobs and services to save cash.

The cash strapped councils are looking at joint appointments, merged teams and using collective buying power to get a better deal for local taxpayers.

School standards will be this first service to come under review along with environmental services.

Both council have in recent years languished at the bottom of nation league tables for school standards, although have begun to catch up with national averages.
so please read & maybe accept I wasn't making it up.
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it. they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions. Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town? They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money. Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money? But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we? Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year? they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do[/p][/quote]I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.[/p][/quote]here to prove it wasn't a myth! COUNCIL bosses in Southampton and the Isle of Wight have unveiled plans to share jobs and services to save cash. The cash strapped councils are looking at joint appointments, merged teams and using collective buying power to get a better deal for local taxpayers. School standards will be this first service to come under review along with environmental services. Both council have in recent years languished at the bottom of nation league tables for school standards, although have begun to catch up with national averages. so please read & maybe accept I wasn't making it up. loosehead

8:57am Thu 13 Feb 14

Outside of the Box says...

loosehead wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it.
they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions.
Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town?
They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money.
Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money?
But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we?
Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year?
they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do
I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.
here to prove it wasn't a myth!
COUNCIL bosses in Southampton and the Isle of Wight have unveiled plans to share jobs and services to save cash.

The cash strapped councils are looking at joint appointments, merged teams and using collective buying power to get a better deal for local taxpayers.

School standards will be this first service to come under review along with environmental services.

Both council have in recent years languished at the bottom of nation league tables for school standards, although have begun to catch up with national averages.
so please read & maybe accept I wasn't making it up.
I'm Loosehead but I'd rather believe the Councillor, your comments prove nothing, the words Councils unveil plans, doesn't it was going happen, Baldrick had a cunning plan, but it never materialised either
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So this council restored pay knowing full well it couldn't afford to do it. they scrapped a deal With the Isle of Wight which would have saved both councils millions. Yes no free Uni Link I agree with but at the same time they're pumping £200,000 into Meachers to unload lorries & van them into town? They are spending £200,000 in each area they're turning into 20mph speed limits with no monitoring of the traffic so a waste of money. Maybe instead of building a cycle way they could get the bus companies to set up Oyster cards with far cheaper fares to get cars off the road would be a better way to spend the money? But No let's restore pay let's spend money frivolously then blame the Government as it wasn't as if we had any idea we'd take cuts did we? Surely a responsible council that was already in the know that big cuts were to come wouldn't have spent £14-£20million on restoring pay levels & then using our council tax increases over the three years to give these same workers a 1.9% pay rise each year? they hope the public can't see what they're doing & we'll all blame the Government & vote them back into power well more fool us if we do[/p][/quote]I'm intrigued. What is this mythical 'deal' with the Isle of Wight which would have saved Southampton City Council 'millions'? The IoW Council is a basket case and under the previous Tory administration of the island they completely failed in their children's services; so much so that Hampshire County Council has now been sent in by the Government to run them. If the Tories had had their way in Southampton they would have combined the City's children's services with those on the Isle of Wight. Fortunately the electorate of Southampton saw fit to elect a Labour Council and so avert an even bigger disaster for the City's vulnerable children.[/p][/quote]here to prove it wasn't a myth! COUNCIL bosses in Southampton and the Isle of Wight have unveiled plans to share jobs and services to save cash. The cash strapped councils are looking at joint appointments, merged teams and using collective buying power to get a better deal for local taxpayers. School standards will be this first service to come under review along with environmental services. Both council have in recent years languished at the bottom of nation league tables for school standards, although have begun to catch up with national averages. so please read & maybe accept I wasn't making it up.[/p][/quote]I'm Loosehead but I'd rather believe the Councillor, your comments prove nothing, the words Councils unveil plans, doesn't it was going happen, Baldrick had a cunning plan, but it never materialised either Outside of the Box

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