Hundreds wrongly charged bedroom tax

Daily Echo: Hundreds wrongly charged bedroom tax Hundreds wrongly charged bedroom tax

MORE than 230 people in Hampshire have been unlawfully charged the “bedroom tax” after a Government blunder, it can be revealed.

They are residents who have lived in the same local council or housing association property since 1996 – making them exempt from the measure.

However, they wrongly had hundreds of pounds of their housing benefit deducted, because they were deemed to have spare bedrooms.

All must now be refunded, after the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) admitted tenants in the same home for more than 17 years should not have been hit.

Labour seized on the figures to warn the bedroom tax had descended into “farce”. And it accused ministers of misleading people about the blunder, having claimed only 5,000 residents would be hit nationwide, when the real figure was up to 50,000.

In Hampshire, the largest number of people affected is in Southampton (95), followed by Basingstoke and Deane (52), Eastleigh (38), New Forest (31) and Winchester (22).

That makes 238 – but the total is certain to be far higher, because other local councils have not replied to freedom of information requests.

Chris Bryant, Labour’s welfare spokesman, said: “The Government has been caught out trying to downplay how many people are exempted by it.

“At this rate the total will be nearly 50,000 households, each of them overcharged by an average of £640. That’s £3,072,000 that will have to be repaid.

“This would be a farce if it weren’t for the upset this has caused many vulnerable families and the huge cost to taxpayers.”

The removal of the ‘spare room subsidy’ – the Government’s term – cuts housing benefit by 14 per cent for one extra bedroom and 25 per cent where there are two.

Yesterday, the National Housing Federation warned twothirds of households hit by the bedroom tax had fallen into rent arrears – while one in seven had received eviction risk letters.

But housing minister Kris Hopkins said the figures were out of date and criticised “vulnerable individuals who are set in their ways”, who refused to move.

A DWP spokeswoman said the loophole was now being closed, so future long-standing tenants would no longer escape

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7:22am Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

'Vulnerable individuals who are set in their ways' illustrates a complete lack of empathy. From a government 'set in it's way' u-turning on election promise to introduce 'power of recall'
'Vulnerable individuals who are set in their ways' illustrates a complete lack of empathy. From a government 'set in it's way' u-turning on election promise to introduce 'power of recall' KSO16R

7:25am Sat 15 Feb 14

manic75 says...

Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long. manic75

7:26am Sat 15 Feb 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Can you be "charged" Bedroom Tax?
Can you be "charged" Bedroom Tax? 100%HANTSBOY

7:49am Sat 15 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

bedroom tax used to be charged down derby road way ,hope they put in large compo claims too for all the stress caused .
bedroom tax used to be charged down derby road way ,hope they put in large compo claims too for all the stress caused . WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

8:07am Sat 15 Feb 14

Linesman says...

manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose. Linesman

8:15am Sat 15 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing. bigfella777

8:23am Sat 15 Feb 14

manic75 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.[/p][/quote]What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need. manic75

8:39am Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.
'Chavs and benefit cheats' sounds like the house of palliament.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.[/p][/quote]What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.[/p][/quote]'Chavs and benefit cheats' sounds like the house of palliament. KSO16R

8:44am Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

KSO16R wrote:
manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.
'Chavs and benefit cheats' sounds like the house of palliament.
That safety net was sold off by the tories
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.[/p][/quote]What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.[/p][/quote]'Chavs and benefit cheats' sounds like the house of palliament.[/p][/quote]That safety net was sold off by the tories KSO16R

8:47am Sat 15 Feb 14

userds5050 says...

manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
It doesn't matter why. They are exempt, and were still charged the bedroom tax. The government clearly doesn't know what it's doing.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter why. They are exempt, and were still charged the bedroom tax. The government clearly doesn't know what it's doing. userds5050

8:50am Sat 15 Feb 14

userds5050 says...

manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.
There is no such thing as society remember.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.[/p][/quote]What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as society remember. userds5050

9:47am Sat 15 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.
What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.
They Dont live here and they Dont pay any tax and they push up house prices so that ordinary people can't afford to buy a house, this also inflates rents. If they had to pay 1% mansion tax a year it might stop it.
Look this bedroom tax is going to end up costing all of us more than it has ever saved. If we were that bad at our jobs we would get sacked.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Ian Duncan Smith should resign from post or be removed. All this yet millionaires have huge properties sat empty as investments and pay nothing.[/p][/quote]What do you mean they pay nothing? They had to purchase the property surely? How is that comparable to someone who is freeloading at the taxpayers expense? I'm sick of this society of chavs and benefit cheats. The council stock should be there for the most vulnerable. A safety net for those most in need.[/p][/quote]They Dont live here and they Dont pay any tax and they push up house prices so that ordinary people can't afford to buy a house, this also inflates rents. If they had to pay 1% mansion tax a year it might stop it. Look this bedroom tax is going to end up costing all of us more than it has ever saved. If we were that bad at our jobs we would get sacked. bigfella777

10:24am Sat 15 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs. Ronnie G

11:18am Sat 15 Feb 14

X Old Bill says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Can you be "charged" Bedroom Tax?
No, but a 'reduction in benefits paid for by other taxpayers' does not make such a sensational headline.
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: Can you be "charged" Bedroom Tax?[/p][/quote]No, but a 'reduction in benefits paid for by other taxpayers' does not make such a sensational headline. X Old Bill

12:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

southy says...

Some I see some are on about benefit cheats, let me tell you this much there is 0.7%, that,s right 0.7% benefit cheating going on, these are figures from the DWP, its costing more in advertising about benefit cheats than what is lost though benefit cheating. then you look at the top of the rich wealth ladder Tax avoidance the top 2% of the population they account for 92% of lost tax revenue and this is not a small amount of a few millions we are talking over £170 Billion each year in lost tax revenue enough lost revenue to pay the National Debt in full with in 10 years and put us into credit.
But will any thing be done about it no, and why is because the Government Cabinet 23 of the 27 cabinet ministers part of the problem Cameron himself is a Tax avoider and just like Thatcher did in the 80's change the rules so they could benefit .
So what do the Government do they attack the poor, make the poorer sections pay the most, they did not create this mess were as top 2% did but they are not going to pays for there miss-stakes that they made no they just reward them selfs with bigger bonuses and larger wage increases while the workers take a lager cut and longer hours.
And its not just this country where this is happening
Some I see some are on about benefit cheats, let me tell you this much there is 0.7%, that,s right 0.7% benefit cheating going on, these are figures from the DWP, its costing more in advertising about benefit cheats than what is lost though benefit cheating. then you look at the top of the rich wealth ladder Tax avoidance the top 2% of the population they account for 92% of lost tax revenue and this is not a small amount of a few millions we are talking over £170 Billion each year in lost tax revenue enough lost revenue to pay the National Debt in full with in 10 years and put us into credit. But will any thing be done about it no, and why is because the Government Cabinet 23 of the 27 cabinet ministers part of the problem Cameron himself is a Tax avoider and just like Thatcher did in the 80's change the rules so they could benefit . So what do the Government do they attack the poor, make the poorer sections pay the most, they did not create this mess were as top 2% did but they are not going to pays for there miss-stakes that they made no they just reward them selfs with bigger bonuses and larger wage increases while the workers take a lager cut and longer hours. And its not just this country where this is happening southy

12:51pm Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo. KSO16R

1:39pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Lone Ranger. says...

KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name Lone Ranger.

2:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

southy says...

If you watch the Tommy Sheridan speech on Scotland Independance vote, then you realise that Labour will do what the Torys want them to do.
In PM question time, Milliband fired question at Cameron, Cameron answered back and said what will you do the labour party reverse all that Tory's had done, with that Milliban and the Labour front benches stayed deadly quiet looking a little bit out of joint they dear not answer that question simple reason they intend to carry on where the Torys have left off but they can not say they will because then need the unions money, and they can not say they will reverse Tory policy because they have no intensions in doing so, just like Blair when he entered office at number 10 saying there will be no reversing Thatcher policy.
This stems from the very top of the Labour Party right down to the Councillors
If you watch the Tommy Sheridan speech on Scotland Independance vote, then you realise that Labour will do what the Torys want them to do. In PM question time, Milliband fired question at Cameron, Cameron answered back and said what will you do the labour party reverse all that Tory's had done, with that Milliban and the Labour front benches stayed deadly quiet looking a little bit out of joint they dear not answer that question simple reason they intend to carry on where the Torys have left off but they can not say they will because then need the unions money, and they can not say they will reverse Tory policy because they have no intensions in doing so, just like Blair when he entered office at number 10 saying there will be no reversing Thatcher policy. This stems from the very top of the Labour Party right down to the Councillors southy

2:07pm Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading. KSO16R

2:55pm Sat 15 Feb 14

southy says...

So KSO16R your saying while people suffer you just want to laugh about it
So KSO16R your saying while people suffer you just want to laugh about it southy

5:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
No not ****. And you know it.
Your tone of post says it all. LOL!
Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]No not ****. And you know it. Your tone of post says it all. LOL! Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last! Ronnie G

5:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

shirley whirley says...

If you don't like it either A. Move to a proeprty where you dont have an extra bedroom or B get a job and pay your own rent! Maybe they should also decrease the council tax benefit if you live for free in house that is bigger than you need!
If you don't like it either A. Move to a proeprty where you dont have an extra bedroom or B get a job and pay your own rent! Maybe they should also decrease the council tax benefit if you live for free in house that is bigger than you need! shirley whirley

5:05pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard. Inform Al

5:14pm Sat 15 Feb 14

George4th says...

This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need.
The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions).

Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system.
This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need. The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions). Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system. George4th

5:44pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
Yes I Knew. I did speak, but they ignored me, when I spoke louder they spoke over me, I tried to explain to Labour councillors that the rules they were following in Southampton by evicting residents from their homes of 20-25 years for Bedroom Tax was wrong.
I was met with arrogant obstructive behaviour from all Labour councillors and was completely ignored by Alan Whitehead and John Denham the 2 Labour MP's.
Southampton City Labour Councillors have all lied again to cover up their disgraceful actions, they have bullied and behaved appallingly.
The fact that Labour Leader Ed Miliband was saying different to what our Labour Council were actively enforcing on residents here in Southampton was a major eye-opener.
Lone Ranger is a classic example,
Our Southampton Labour Councillors think they are the law and they will only answer to themselves.
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]Yes I Knew. I did speak, but they ignored me, when I spoke louder they spoke over me, I tried to explain to Labour councillors that the rules they were following in Southampton by evicting residents from their homes of 20-25 years for Bedroom Tax was wrong. I was met with arrogant obstructive behaviour from all Labour councillors and was completely ignored by Alan Whitehead and John Denham the 2 Labour MP's. Southampton City Labour Councillors have all lied again to cover up their disgraceful actions, they have bullied and behaved appallingly. The fact that Labour Leader Ed Miliband was saying different to what our Labour Council were actively enforcing on residents here in Southampton was a major eye-opener. Lone Ranger is a classic example, Our Southampton Labour Councillors think they are the law and they will only answer to themselves. Ronnie G

5:52pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

George4th wrote:
This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need.
The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions).

Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system.
According to most Tory idiots that post on this site they should get a job and buy their own house. Hope you agree that this is a stupid suggestion. This of course is just as stupid as expecting happily settled people to give up their family homes in a city where there are actually insufficient smaller properties to move into. It should be their choice if they wish to move, not C'moron's. The answer to the overcrowding problem is to build a lot more social housing, this will not only provide many jobs, but as it pays for itself through rental income will actually cost nothing. It's how Adolf got Germany out of a depression that made ours look like a storm in a tea cup. It is a pity that he then went on to be a pr4t but at least he managed to get something right. Unlike C'moron who so far has managed to get nothing right and will not build the necessary social housing as this will bring house prices down to a level the ordinary working man can afford, so upsetting his rich friends.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need. The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions). Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system.[/p][/quote]According to most Tory idiots that post on this site they should get a job and buy their own house. Hope you agree that this is a stupid suggestion. This of course is just as stupid as expecting happily settled people to give up their family homes in a city where there are actually insufficient smaller properties to move into. It should be their choice if they wish to move, not C'moron's. The answer to the overcrowding problem is to build a lot more social housing, this will not only provide many jobs, but as it pays for itself through rental income will actually cost nothing. It's how Adolf got Germany out of a depression that made ours look like a storm in a tea cup. It is a pity that he then went on to be a pr4t but at least he managed to get something right. Unlike C'moron who so far has managed to get nothing right and will not build the necessary social housing as this will bring house prices down to a level the ordinary working man can afford, so upsetting his rich friends. Inform Al

6:44pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

KSO16R wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading.
My oh My grandmother! said little red riding hood.
So many aliases you appear to have!!
All the better to troll you down with!! Said the big fat wolf!!

There hasn't been any and there is never gonna be any political perspective for me on issues with our current council.
The bottom line of it all is, that they are simply not fit for purpose.
I ain't grandstanding or talking myself up my own arse either.
It is crystal on who's arse ur currently stuck up though!!!
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading.[/p][/quote]My oh My grandmother! said little red riding hood. So many aliases you appear to have!! All the better to troll you down with!! Said the big fat wolf!! There hasn't been any and there is never gonna be any political perspective for me on issues with our current council. The bottom line of it all is, that they are simply not fit for purpose. I ain't grandstanding or talking myself up my own arse either. It is crystal on who's arse ur currently stuck up though!!! Ronnie G

6:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

George4th wrote:
This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need.
The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions).

Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system.
Very well said. Small hiccups but huge benefits already.

A taxpayer funded lifestyle should not rival that of somebody that works to provide for themselves & pays their taxes.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: This new, logical, more fair system, is going through a transitional period (with a few hiccups) and the many who benefit from the changes far outweigh the right of those who have more room(s!) than they need. The early signs are that it is working very well (with a few inevitable exceptions). Ask someone who has been homeless or living in over-crowded accommodation or living in guest houses/hotels what they think of the new system.[/p][/quote]Very well said. Small hiccups but huge benefits already. A taxpayer funded lifestyle should not rival that of somebody that works to provide for themselves & pays their taxes. sotonboy84

7:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
No not ****. And you know it.
Your tone of post says it all. LOL!
Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last!
Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago.
.
There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!.
.
Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified.
.
A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy.
.
Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun
it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]No not ****. And you know it. Your tone of post says it all. LOL! Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last![/p][/quote]Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago. . There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!. . Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified. . A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy. . Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ...... Lone Ranger.

7:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Ronnie G wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading.
My oh My grandmother! said little red riding hood.
So many aliases you appear to have!!
All the better to troll you down with!! Said the big fat wolf!!

There hasn't been any and there is never gonna be any political perspective for me on issues with our current council.
The bottom line of it all is, that they are simply not fit for purpose.
I ain't grandstanding or talking myself up my own arse either.
It is crystal on who's arse ur currently stuck up though!!!
How funny : ) no aliases no alter egos just observations. You need to be more creative if no one listens to you.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]I was being mischievous.Too many people grandstand on forums like this talking themselves up their own backsides. However, occassionally some good comments regardless of political perspective make enjoyable reading.[/p][/quote]My oh My grandmother! said little red riding hood. So many aliases you appear to have!! All the better to troll you down with!! Said the big fat wolf!! There hasn't been any and there is never gonna be any political perspective for me on issues with our current council. The bottom line of it all is, that they are simply not fit for purpose. I ain't grandstanding or talking myself up my own arse either. It is crystal on who's arse ur currently stuck up though!!![/p][/quote]How funny : ) no aliases no alter egos just observations. You need to be more creative if no one listens to you. KSO16R

1:17am Sun 16 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Inform Al wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.
I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake.

Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not!
EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.[/p][/quote]I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake. Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not! EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing. Ronnie G

1:33am Sun 16 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.
I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake.

Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not!
EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing.
As I sit on the Southampton resources group I have a lot more ionformation on the subject than you obviously have. However as I have today been accewpted to stand for a political party as a councillor ion May I shall from now on not be responding to any ill infdormed cretins that post on thios site.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.[/p][/quote]I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake. Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not! EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing.[/p][/quote]As I sit on the Southampton resources group I have a lot more ionformation on the subject than you obviously have. However as I have today been accewpted to stand for a political party as a councillor ion May I shall from now on not be responding to any ill infdormed cretins that post on thios site. Inform Al

10:22am Sun 16 Feb 14

andysaints007 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.
I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake.

Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not!
EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing.
As I sit on the Southampton resources group I have a lot more ionformation on the subject than you obviously have. However as I have today been accewpted to stand for a political party as a councillor ion May I shall from now on not be responding to any ill infdormed cretins that post on thios site.
God help us all if tw*ts like you get involved in politics
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]I've read some rubbish on this site but this is probably the most stupid and ill informed of all of them. No council tenant has beem evicted or threatened with eviction over the bedroom tax in Southampton, in fact because of work the council's officers are doing because of the bedroom tax to avoid this happening there have been less evictions for rent arrears this year than last. I know some people who you can tell when they are lying, it's when they're lips move. It seems this can also apply to idiots banging away on a keyboard.[/p][/quote]I do apologise I should have made myself clearer. My mistake. Southampton Bedroom Tax charges that were delivered by our Labour Council, were delivered mostly to vulnerable residents, that would not make a fuss and just be moved, mostly into lower grade of quality ACCOMODATION forced to accept because they were told that nothing else was or would be likely to come up for a long time, so the pressure was to accept or face being homeless! But you were giving up your home, was this really how things were to be done? I think not! EVICTIONS relating to UNDER OCCUPANCY WERE delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! I'm not the one that is ill informed, by looks of it, and don't be so rude in future. You know nothing.[/p][/quote]As I sit on the Southampton resources group I have a lot more ionformation on the subject than you obviously have. However as I have today been accewpted to stand for a political party as a councillor ion May I shall from now on not be responding to any ill infdormed cretins that post on thios site.[/p][/quote]God help us all if tw*ts like you get involved in politics andysaints007

2:49pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
No not ****. And you know it.
Your tone of post says it all. LOL!
Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last!
Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago.
.
There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!.
.
Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified.
.
A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy.
.
Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun
it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......
Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?!
Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much?
Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do.
Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths?
I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach',
you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party?

Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine.
I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST...
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]No not ****. And you know it. Your tone of post says it all. LOL! Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last![/p][/quote]Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago. . There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!. . Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified. . A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy. . Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......[/p][/quote]Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?! Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much? Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do. Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths? I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach', you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party? Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine. I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST... Ronnie G

5:21pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
No not ****. And you know it.
Your tone of post says it all. LOL!
Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last!
Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago.
.
There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!.
.
Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified.
.
A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy.
.
Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun
it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......
Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?!
Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much?
Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do.
Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths?
I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach',
you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party?

Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine.
I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST...
It appears strange that you are quite happy to dish it out but when it is returned you suddenly become the "injured party".
.
To suggest that i am high up in any political paty is somewhat of a joke ..... because i may defend them on occasions doesnt mean that i am actively involved.
.
Perhaps you can pin point the untuths that i may have posted ...... only reading back i cannot find any.
.
Ridicule you !!!!!! what on earth gives you that idea ?
.
My house is 300% in order ....... but it does appear that yours may not be

.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]No not ****. And you know it. Your tone of post says it all. LOL! Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last![/p][/quote]Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago. . There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!. . Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified. . A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy. . Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......[/p][/quote]Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?! Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much? Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do. Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths? I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach', you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party? Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine. I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST...[/p][/quote]It appears strange that you are quite happy to dish it out but when it is returned you suddenly become the "injured party". . To suggest that i am high up in any political paty is somewhat of a joke ..... because i may defend them on occasions doesnt mean that i am actively involved. . Perhaps you can pin point the untuths that i may have posted ...... only reading back i cannot find any. . Ridicule you !!!!!! what on earth gives you that idea ? . My house is 300% in order ....... but it does appear that yours may not be . Lone Ranger.

9:36am Mon 17 Feb 14

From the sidelines says...

The 'bedroom tax' is no more a tax than the withdrawal of child allowance. It is a lowering of the subsidy, to encourage people to move to a house that fits their needs, releasing larger houses for family occupation.

If you find yourself dependent on other peoples' earnings, you are privileged to have a house. You do not have the right to a house of your choice. If you wish to have such a choice, the process starts with working hard at school, and getting yourself a job.

The current rules merely take Labour's withdrawal of subsidy from people renting in the private sector, and extend it to public sector housing. Fairness for all!
The 'bedroom tax' is no more a tax than the withdrawal of child allowance. It is a lowering of the subsidy, to encourage people to move to a house that fits their needs, releasing larger houses for family occupation. If you find yourself dependent on other peoples' earnings, you are privileged to have a house. You do not have the right to a house of your choice. If you wish to have such a choice, the process starts with working hard at school, and getting yourself a job. The current rules merely take Labour's withdrawal of subsidy from people renting in the private sector, and extend it to public sector housing. Fairness for all! From the sidelines

12:23pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Linesman wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt.

Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.
Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong.

Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration.

A government that is unfit for purpose.
LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor??
In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!!
Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?!
Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.
You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.
..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why.
.
Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name
No not ****. And you know it.
Your tone of post says it all. LOL!
Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last!
Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago.
.
There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!.
.
Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified.
.
A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy.
.
Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun
it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......
Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?!
Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much?
Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do.
Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths?
I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach',
you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party?

Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine.
I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST...
It appears strange that you are quite happy to dish it out but when it is returned you suddenly become the "injured party".
.
To suggest that i am high up in any political paty is somewhat of a joke ..... because i may defend them on occasions doesnt mean that i am actively involved.
.
Perhaps you can pin point the untuths that i may have posted ...... only reading back i cannot find any.
.
Ridicule you !!!!!! what on earth gives you that idea ?
.
My house is 300% in order ....... but it does appear that yours may not be

.
LOL!
Come on Lone, you can do better than that,
IS MY HOUSE IN ORDER OR NOT?
Better luck next time and it's still exactly as I said, I'm happy for you to continue abusing your position to score your 'brownie points'.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Why are they exempt? They should be charged too. The government is doing the right thing but doesn't make sense that anyone who has lived in a larger than needed council house prior to this date is exempt. Honestly, those on benefits have had it far too good for far too long.[/p][/quote]Ask your local Tory councillor. It is the Tory-led Government that made the rules, and it is under their guidance that it the administration got it wrong. Just another example of the incompetence of the Cameron administration. A government that is unfit for purpose.[/p][/quote]LOL! Ask your local Tory Councillor?? In Southampton All Bedroom Tax charges and EVICTIONS were delivered by our Southampton Labour Councilllors!! Even though their colleagues in Central Gov were against it?! Labour cllrs knew what loophole was but ignored it, they deliberately concentrated their efforts on mainly targeting only the vulnerable people who had been in their homes for more than 20yrs.[/p][/quote]You know that the labour council were targeting vulnerable people intentionally when these people didn't have to pay? Why didn't you let people know? Would have made good headlines for the echo.[/p][/quote]..... He didnt tell anyone .... Because he didnt know .... thats why. . Just the usual BS from the poster who changed his posting name[/p][/quote]No not ****. And you know it. Your tone of post says it all. LOL! Don't be so down on yourself , it's not first time you been caught out lying and it definitely ain't gonna be the last![/p][/quote]Really dont understand your response ........ but then i never did when you posted as Daisy a few months ago. . There again any bloke (allegedly) who uses a womans name must have serious questions asked about his mental state or even his sexuality !!. . Judging by some of your post ........ those questions would be well justified. . A regards the lying bit ....... well you come a very close second to loosehead ..... and you know what most posters think about him ... dont you Daisy. . Go on ....... revert back to your old name Daisy ... it was musch more fun it said so much about you ...... Now i really do LMAO ......[/p][/quote]Yeah, Yeah, yawn.... What you think your posts say about you, HUH?! Why do you feel the need to openly discriminate against people so much? Why do you put people down who don't have the same political experiences or views as you do. Why Are you unable to represent or defend yourself or your Labour party in a suitable adult manner, without resorting to untruths? I put it to you that YOU feel you are 'out of reach', you feel that YOU are too high up the political ladder in your political party? Mister Lonely Ranger, Im happy for YOU to carry on with your futile attempts to ridicule me, just don't forget to double check that YOU ARE 200% SURE that YOUR house IS IN order BEFORE concerning yourself with mine. I DONT DO ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SHOULD BE BIT OF GIVE N TAKE IN IT AT LEAST...[/p][/quote]It appears strange that you are quite happy to dish it out but when it is returned you suddenly become the "injured party". . To suggest that i am high up in any political paty is somewhat of a joke ..... because i may defend them on occasions doesnt mean that i am actively involved. . Perhaps you can pin point the untuths that i may have posted ...... only reading back i cannot find any. . Ridicule you !!!!!! what on earth gives you that idea ? . My house is 300% in order ....... but it does appear that yours may not be .[/p][/quote]LOL! Come on Lone, you can do better than that, IS MY HOUSE IN ORDER OR NOT? Better luck next time and it's still exactly as I said, I'm happy for you to continue abusing your position to score your 'brownie points'. Ronnie G

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