Transport chiefs back Totton town centre HGV ban

Councillor David Harrison, right, with some of the residents who support the ban on HGVs.

Edith Randall.

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter, New Forest

THEY have been thundering past people’s homes day and night for longer than the occupants care to remember.

But HGVs could finally be banned from the centre of a Hampshire town following a long campaign by residents angry at the pollution and vibration being caused by the huge vehicles.

Lorry drivers going to and from Southampton often take a short cut through Totton town centre instead of using motorways or the bypass.

Now vehicles weighing more than 7.5 tonnes will be prevented from using roads in the parish under plans being drawn up by the county council.

Transport chiefs are determined to make truckers stick to the M27, the M271 and the A326.

The move has been welcomed by Totton county councillor David Harrison, a former chairman of Totton and Eling Town Council.

He said: “An HGV restriction will help make the town a cleaner, safer and less noisy place.

"It will be particularly welcome in Salisbury Road and Ringwood Road, where residents have had problems with sleeping because of the noise and vibration from HGVs. It will also make our roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.

"There’s no need for many HGVs to be travelling through the town centre when they can easily use the bypass.”

The proposed lorry ban was revealed at a meeting of the town council.

Members paid tribute to former county councillor Edith Randall, who spent years campaigning for HGVs to be banned from the town.

Cllr Sean Woodward, the county council’s executive member for economy, transport and environment, confirmed that a 7.5-tonne weight restriction was being proposed as part of the authority’s 2013/2014 traffic management programme.

He said the ban aimed to reduce the number of lorries travelling through Totton by encouraging greater use of the motorway network.

“It will also address the environmental impact this traffic has on Totton, which has been a concern to residents,” he said.

HGVs will be banned from using Salisbury Road, Ringwood Road and surrounding residential areas, except for access, if the scheme is approved.

The proposed lorry-free zone is bounded by the A36 to the east, Cooks Lane to the north and the railway line to the south.

A Traffic Regulation Order is currently being advertised and public comments invited.

Full details can be viewed at Totton Library, the New Forest District Council offices at Lyndhurst and online at hants.gov.uk/publicnotices.

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10:32am Tue 18 Feb 14

S Pance says...

Good news!
Good news! S Pance
  • Score: 7

11:29am Tue 18 Feb 14

Hedgehogrose says...

So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country. Hedgehogrose
  • Score: -4

11:49am Tue 18 Feb 14

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing says...

Hedgehogrose wrote:
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
Interesting comment.

I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton?
What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic?
I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce.
Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size.

Personally think its good news.
Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.
[quote][p][bold]Hedgehogrose[/bold] wrote: So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton? What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic? I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce. Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size. Personally think its good news. Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
  • Score: 11

12:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Larkum says...

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing wrote:
Hedgehogrose wrote:
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
Interesting comment.

I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton?
What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic?
I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce.
Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size.

Personally think its good news.
Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.
Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop!

I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous!
[quote][p][bold]A little knowledge is a dangerous thing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hedgehogrose[/bold] wrote: So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton? What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic? I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce. Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size. Personally think its good news. Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.[/p][/quote]Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop! I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous! Larkum
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Tue 18 Feb 14

NickBrum says...

I too feel this is a good move, and would like to see the ban extended along the A336 as far as Cadnam.

I have nothing against HGVs and am quite aware of their need and contribution to the UK economy, however I see no justification for these vehicles using town centres and roads through villages and residential areas when more suitable alternatives are available.

I live in Cadnam in an old house that sits right next to Southampton Road. Articulated tankers going to and from Fawley regularly cut through Netley Marsh and Cadnam as a shortcut for junction 1 of the M27, rather than take an extra 5 minutes to use junction 2 and the more suitable A326. It is no exaggeration to say my entire house shakes every time they pass.

During the summer months it would be lovely to sleep with the bedroom windows open, but unfortunately the noise simply makes that impossible as these tankers run well into the early hours, sometimes passing in 2s and 3s between midnight and 1am.

For those that support the unrestricted movement of HGVs I think the key phrase in the article is "except for access". No one is saying take HGVs off our roads for good. All we are asking is that they use an appropriate route and stop taking short cuts along roads that were never designed for their use, unless of course there is no alternative.
I too feel this is a good move, and would like to see the ban extended along the A336 as far as Cadnam. I have nothing against HGVs and am quite aware of their need and contribution to the UK economy, however I see no justification for these vehicles using town centres and roads through villages and residential areas when more suitable alternatives are available. I live in Cadnam in an old house that sits right next to Southampton Road. Articulated tankers going to and from Fawley regularly cut through Netley Marsh and Cadnam as a shortcut for junction 1 of the M27, rather than take an extra 5 minutes to use junction 2 and the more suitable A326. It is no exaggeration to say my entire house shakes every time they pass. During the summer months it would be lovely to sleep with the bedroom windows open, but unfortunately the noise simply makes that impossible as these tankers run well into the early hours, sometimes passing in 2s and 3s between midnight and 1am. For those that support the unrestricted movement of HGVs I think the key phrase in the article is "except for access". No one is saying take HGVs off our roads for good. All we are asking is that they use an appropriate route and stop taking short cuts along roads that were never designed for their use, unless of course there is no alternative. NickBrum
  • Score: 2

2:21pm Tue 18 Feb 14

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing says...

Larkum wrote:
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing wrote:
Hedgehogrose wrote:
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
Interesting comment.

I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton?
What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic?
I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce.
Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size.

Personally think its good news.
Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.
Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop!

I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous!
I believe the restriction is to stop HGV’s taking a short cut through Totton.
Not blocking access to deliver goods such as fuel and food etc.
They are permitted to use the route for access.
Asda and the other big employers you mention wont close.
If anything they will do more trade due to people getting around Totton a little easier.

My god. Do you people actually read the article before posting a comment?
[quote][p][bold]Larkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A little knowledge is a dangerous thing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hedgehogrose[/bold] wrote: So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton? What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic? I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce. Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size. Personally think its good news. Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.[/p][/quote]Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop! I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous![/p][/quote]I believe the restriction is to stop HGV’s taking a short cut through Totton. Not blocking access to deliver goods such as fuel and food etc. They are permitted to use the route for access. Asda and the other big employers you mention wont close. If anything they will do more trade due to people getting around Totton a little easier. My god. Do you people actually read the article before posting a comment? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
  • Score: 6

2:21pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Zeo says...

More Freight by Rail :) ...
More Freight by Rail :) ... Zeo
  • Score: 3

3:33pm Tue 18 Feb 14

one in a million says...

Why is totton a special case? These HGVs are a menace everywhere and should be banned from all but the motorways in favour of rail or smaller vehicles.
Why is totton a special case? These HGVs are a menace everywhere and should be banned from all but the motorways in favour of rail or smaller vehicles. one in a million
  • Score: -4

5:35pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

Hedgehogrose wrote:
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
Are you really as thick as you appear?

The HGV's in question are driving to the docks; the M271 being a much more sensible route. How can it possibly be sensible to take an HGV through a residential route, when there is a far more suitable alternative?

HGV deliveries to shops etc in Totton will be exempt from the ruling.
[quote][p][bold]Hedgehogrose[/bold] wrote: So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.[/p][/quote]Are you really as thick as you appear? The HGV's in question are driving to the docks; the M271 being a much more sensible route. How can it possibly be sensible to take an HGV through a residential route, when there is a far more suitable alternative? HGV deliveries to shops etc in Totton will be exempt from the ruling. Peters567
  • Score: 0

5:37pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

Larkum wrote:
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing wrote:
Hedgehogrose wrote:
So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible.

If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.
Interesting comment.

I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton?
What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic?
I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce.
Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size.

Personally think its good news.
Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.
Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop!

I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous!
Another one that hasn't actually read the article. HGV's used for local deliveres will be exempt.
[quote][p][bold]Larkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A little knowledge is a dangerous thing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hedgehogrose[/bold] wrote: So making lorries take longer journeys therefore burning more fuel is more environmently sound than taking the shortest most direct route possible. If it wasn't for HGV drivers who work to the most ridiculous legislation anyone could possible imagine there would be no food in any supermarket, no clothes at any high street shop - there would be nothing anywhere. But all anyone wants to do is make there job even harder than it already is by banning them from s***hole towns like Totton just because a few people may not appreciate what HGV drivers do for the economy of this country.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. I assume you now the area well enough to know about the perfectly good A326 the HGV vehicles can use which is actually quicker than sitting in traffic through Totton? What burns more fuel? Sitting stationary in traffic or travelling down a road with no traffic? I think this is what the local authorities are trying to enforce. Totton town centre can be very congested and large HGV vehicles only cause more issues when used on roads not designed for their size. Personally think its good news. Hope it extends to the full length of Ringwood Road through Netley Marsh, Woodlands and Cadnam.[/p][/quote]Yes all greate ban HGV's whilst we are at it, close Asda, lidls, Argos and esso garage, because without HGVs how are they going to get their stock or fuel! Without these large company we will have more unemployment more poverty, more people on benefits. Just because people don't like them, they just have to stop! I know there are already ristrictions in place, for example Asda lorry a are not aloud down by the houses at night, which I agree with, but to stop them altogether is rediculous![/p][/quote]Another one that hasn't actually read the article. HGV's used for local deliveres will be exempt. Peters567
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

one in a million wrote:
Why is totton a special case? These HGVs are a menace everywhere and should be banned from all but the motorways in favour of rail or smaller vehicles.
Quite right.

Take up the case with your local Councillor and get him to take it to the Highways Agency.

That's what the people have Totton have done and Cllr Harrison has sorted it on their behalf.

Local politics in action!
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: Why is totton a special case? These HGVs are a menace everywhere and should be banned from all but the motorways in favour of rail or smaller vehicles.[/p][/quote]Quite right. Take up the case with your local Councillor and get him to take it to the Highways Agency. That's what the people have Totton have done and Cllr Harrison has sorted it on their behalf. Local politics in action! Peters567
  • Score: -1

5:46pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

..or her. Your local Councillor could equally be a "her".
..or her. Your local Councillor could equally be a "her". Peters567
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

red/whitearmy says...

Ban HGVs , Ban cars. Fine ban the trucks , Then see no deliveries being made. I am a car/van driver with no problem for HGV to travel through totton. Why should other motorists and residents be bothered.
Ban HGVs , Ban cars. Fine ban the trucks , Then see no deliveries being made. I am a car/van driver with no problem for HGV to travel through totton. Why should other motorists and residents be bothered. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 2

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