Motorcyclist dies after crash with Vauxhall Insignia in West End

Daily Echo: Woman motorcyclist dies in crash Woman motorcyclist dies in crash

A MOTORCYLIST has died after a road smash on a busy Southampton main road today.

The 50-year-old woman rider came off her Yamaha 900 bike when she was in collision with a grey Vauxhall Insignia on Moorhill Road at 8.47am.

Paramedics took her to the Southampton General Hospital by ambulance but she has been pronounced dead from serious head injuries sustained in the crash.

Police had sealed off the road in both directions between Telegraph Road and West End Road for more than seven hours while they investigated the collision which took place at the Southern Road junction.

It was causing major delays for motorists but the road has now been reopened.

Officers are appealing for witnesses or anyone who was in the area at the time to contact Sergeant Rob Heard at the Eastleigh Roads Death Investigation team on 101.

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12:17pm Tue 18 Feb 14

sotonbusdriver says...

Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident...
The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way...
Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver..
Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.
Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident... The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way... Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver.. Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years. sotonbusdriver
  • Score: -6

12:35pm Tue 18 Feb 14

dolomiteman says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident...
The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way...
Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver..
Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.
I don't know why the police bother having an expert crash investigation team when all they need to do is post a pic on this website, age is no indication of how long someone has been riding or driving nor do a few pictures paint a real story behind the reasons for a collision or any outcome as to a conviction for an offence that may or may not have occurred..
And why oh why do the echo insist of posting pics in the first place, I'm sure the families involved will be happy see the carnage.
In the meantime my condolences to all involved.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident... The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way... Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver.. Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.[/p][/quote]I don't know why the police bother having an expert crash investigation team when all they need to do is post a pic on this website, age is no indication of how long someone has been riding or driving nor do a few pictures paint a real story behind the reasons for a collision or any outcome as to a conviction for an offence that may or may not have occurred.. And why oh why do the echo insist of posting pics in the first place, I'm sure the families involved will be happy see the carnage. In the meantime my condolences to all involved. dolomiteman
  • Score: 48

12:41pm Tue 18 Feb 14

iankenken says...

I've been riding for 46 years and seen the aftermath of too many incidents like this. I agree with sotonbusdriver. My first reaction is that the motorcyclist had no chance as the car pulled across her. Of course I could be proved wrong..... I've been the victim twice in that situation thankfully receiving a hole in the leg as the worst outcome. Sincere condolences to the rider's family.
I've been riding for 46 years and seen the aftermath of too many incidents like this. I agree with sotonbusdriver. My first reaction is that the motorcyclist had no chance as the car pulled across her. Of course I could be proved wrong..... I've been the victim twice in that situation thankfully receiving a hole in the leg as the worst outcome. Sincere condolences to the rider's family. iankenken
  • Score: 64

12:44pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.
We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED. Mary80
  • Score: -1

2:02pm Tue 18 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident...
The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way...
Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver..
Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.
You've been reading too much Sherlock Holmes. You have nowhere near enough evidence to make all these fantastic leaps of faith.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident... The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way... Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver.. Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.[/p][/quote]You've been reading too much Sherlock Holmes. You have nowhere near enough evidence to make all these fantastic leaps of faith. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -21

2:07pm Tue 18 Feb 14

IronLady2010 says...

Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read.

RIP love x
Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read. RIP love x IronLady2010
  • Score: 36

2:26pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

I know that stretch of road well at times it can be quite dicey
I know that stretch of road well at times it can be quite dicey Mary80
  • Score: 4

2:30pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Huey says...

Someone was definitely at fault and now there is a death it is up to the cops to find out who, the ECHO to report it, and us to speculate.
Someone was definitely at fault and now there is a death it is up to the cops to find out who, the ECHO to report it, and us to speculate. Huey
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Richard 51 says...

RIP
Trial by media is so much better than waiting for the truth
RIP Trial by media is so much better than waiting for the truth Richard 51
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific.
I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific. Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
  • Score: -31

3:36pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Dasal says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific.
Oh come on.
I know Harefields not perfect, but its not "absolutely horrific"...........
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific.[/p][/quote]Oh come on. I know Harefields not perfect, but its not "absolutely horrific"........... Dasal
  • Score: -5

4:08pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Rat Biker says...

Unfortunately this lady is a friend of mine, she will be greatly missed.
My thoughts are with her family and friends (of which there are many).
Ride free love.
Unfortunately this lady is a friend of mine, she will be greatly missed. My thoughts are with her family and friends (of which there are many). Ride free love. Rat Biker
  • Score: 3

4:55pm Tue 18 Feb 14

captainsmurf says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific.
Yes, horrific. But at least you did get home eventually
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: I wondered why the road was closed when I couldn't get home from work this afternoon. I had to divert into the Harefield Estate to get to Chartwell Green, absolutely horrific.[/p][/quote]Yes, horrific. But at least you did get home eventually captainsmurf
  • Score: 17

5:17pm Tue 18 Feb 14

derek james says...

Mary80 wrote:
We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.
i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.[/p][/quote]i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance derek james
  • Score: 31

5:23pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

derek james wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.
i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance
Clearly you have no idea what its like to be the other driver yes they WILL BE shaken if their actions didn't cause the accident yet the woman died. Even if they weren't looking and hit her the driver will always have it on their conscience. Think before you post utter drivel please
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.[/p][/quote]i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance[/p][/quote]Clearly you have no idea what its like to be the other driver yes they WILL BE shaken if their actions didn't cause the accident yet the woman died. Even if they weren't looking and hit her the driver will always have it on their conscience. Think before you post utter drivel please Mary80
  • Score: -27

5:26pm Tue 18 Feb 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read.

RIP love x
I completely agree. I have never understood why comments threads are opened for these stories, as they do nothing but give rise to useless conjecture and must be very upsetting for the family and friends of the people involved.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read. RIP love x[/p][/quote]I completely agree. I have never understood why comments threads are opened for these stories, as they do nothing but give rise to useless conjecture and must be very upsetting for the family and friends of the people involved. WalkingOnAWire
  • Score: 20

5:39pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Grabul says...

She was a fantastic woman and a shining light in the motorcycle community. She was my friend for many years and a friend to everyone she ever came into contact with. R.I.P Bubbles xxx
She was a fantastic woman and a shining light in the motorcycle community. She was my friend for many years and a friend to everyone she ever came into contact with. R.I.P Bubbles xxx Grabul
  • Score: 83

5:45pm Tue 18 Feb 14

iequeen2000 says...

well said grabul, one of lifes best
well said grabul, one of lifes best iequeen2000
  • Score: 40

6:08pm Tue 18 Feb 14

cleanandtidy says...

Rest In Peace Bubbles....we lost a shining star today...x x
Rest In Peace Bubbles....we lost a shining star today...x x cleanandtidy
  • Score: 43

6:14pm Tue 18 Feb 14

mike coll says...

Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker.
As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.
Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker. As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board. mike coll
  • Score: 23

6:25pm Tue 18 Feb 14

IronLady2010 says...

mike coll wrote:
Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker.
As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.
I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way.

Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers.

What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way?

I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into.
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker. As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.[/p][/quote]I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way. Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers. What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way? I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into. IronLady2010
  • Score: -53

6:49pm Tue 18 Feb 14

TEBOURBA says...

The Echo should not invite comments on such a tragedy.
A life has been cut short and a family is in mourning --- no place at all for idle speculation.
Show some respect Echo and delete the invitation to comment and all published comments to date --- and before some cretin writes"why are you commenting then ?" --- include this one !!
At times like these silence is golden>
The Echo should not invite comments on such a tragedy. A life has been cut short and a family is in mourning --- no place at all for idle speculation. Show some respect Echo and delete the invitation to comment and all published comments to date --- and before some cretin writes"why are you commenting then ?" --- include this one !! At times like these silence is golden> TEBOURBA
  • Score: 20

7:11pm Tue 18 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

This is very sad, I have lost 3 friends to motorcycles as well, but come on the damage is to the nearside wing.
Accident yes but it is quite clear how this occured in my opinion.
This is very sad, I have lost 3 friends to motorcycles as well, but come on the damage is to the nearside wing. Accident yes but it is quite clear how this occured in my opinion. bigfella777
  • Score: 20

7:24pm Tue 18 Feb 14

stukeith1 says...

RIP Bubbles. Only met her a few times and she was full of fun. and always saw her with her pet rats in the backpack! I hope they are safe and well. :(
RIP Bubbles. Only met her a few times and she was full of fun. and always saw her with her pet rats in the backpack! I hope they are safe and well. :( stukeith1
  • Score: 28

8:06pm Tue 18 Feb 14

derek james says...

Mary80 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.
i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance
Clearly you have no idea what its like to be the other driver yes they WILL BE shaken if their actions didn't cause the accident yet the woman died. Even if they weren't looking and hit her the driver will always have it on their conscience. Think before you post utter drivel please
the driver will get over it-the biker won't, save your sympathy for her and her family
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: We have no proof it was the car at fault it could have been the biker but as there is no evidence show a little respect for the victim and the poor shaken driver who now no matter what will have massive guilt for the rest of their life that someone DIED.[/p][/quote]i'm sure the biker would swap places with the "poor shaken driver" if she had the chance[/p][/quote]Clearly you have no idea what its like to be the other driver yes they WILL BE shaken if their actions didn't cause the accident yet the woman died. Even if they weren't looking and hit her the driver will always have it on their conscience. Think before you post utter drivel please[/p][/quote]the driver will get over it-the biker won't, save your sympathy for her and her family derek james
  • Score: 16

8:31pm Tue 18 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read.

RIP love x
I completely agree. I have never understood why comments threads are opened for these stories, as they do nothing but give rise to useless conjecture and must be very upsetting for the family and friends of the people involved.
I highly doubt they're reading this website at the moment, to be honest.
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read. RIP love x[/p][/quote]I completely agree. I have never understood why comments threads are opened for these stories, as they do nothing but give rise to useless conjecture and must be very upsetting for the family and friends of the people involved.[/p][/quote]I highly doubt they're reading this website at the moment, to be honest. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -10

8:38pm Tue 18 Feb 14

seven777. says...

Its very sad to see another bother or sister go, from the highly trained police rider to the idiot youth we ride for the love it even though its ridiculously dangerous. there is fault somewhere but right now the biker community and a family mourn, some of you should show more respect. RIP sister.
Its very sad to see another bother or sister go, from the highly trained police rider to the idiot youth we ride for the love it even though its ridiculously dangerous. there is fault somewhere but right now the biker community and a family mourn, some of you should show more respect. RIP sister. seven777.
  • Score: 25

10:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

treborkcol says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
mike coll wrote:
Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker.
As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.
I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way.

Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers.

What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way?

I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into.
this also happens with cars. i notice this a lot. not on bikes. although not as many out and about. and you don't go when someone flashes. you go when its safe to go.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker. As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.[/p][/quote]I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way. Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers. What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way? I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into.[/p][/quote]this also happens with cars. i notice this a lot. not on bikes. although not as many out and about. and you don't go when someone flashes. you go when its safe to go. treborkcol
  • Score: 17

11:46pm Tue 18 Feb 14

glitterxdoll says...

Saw her only Saturday night. RIP to a dear friend of my parents whom always speak highly of her
Saw her only Saturday night. RIP to a dear friend of my parents whom always speak highly of her glitterxdoll
  • Score: 25

12:05am Wed 19 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

I didn't know her but it sounds like she was one of the best. As the rider of a CB750 and the driver of a Peugeot 406 Estate I think the tittle tattle between riders and drivers on this thread is most inapropriate. A lady has died, please think of her loved ones and friends before making stupid comments.
I didn't know her but it sounds like she was one of the best. As the rider of a CB750 and the driver of a Peugeot 406 Estate I think the tittle tattle between riders and drivers on this thread is most inapropriate. A lady has died, please think of her loved ones and friends before making stupid comments. Inform Al
  • Score: 20

12:20am Wed 19 Feb 14

becksbeare says...

Light a candle, say goodbye, Bubbles was a very special lady and did not deserve her early ride to heaven. But no matter who you are, and what your opinion of motorcycles... Whatever else you today, and forever after... Look twice, leave space, make sure, and THINK BIKE!
Light a candle, say goodbye, Bubbles was a very special lady and did not deserve her early ride to heaven. But no matter who you are, and what your opinion of motorcycles... Whatever else you today, and forever after... Look twice, leave space, make sure, and THINK BIKE! becksbeare
  • Score: 36

2:40am Wed 19 Feb 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mary80 wrote:
I know that stretch of road well at times it can be quite dicey
I also know it well and I know what people can be like along there.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: I know that stretch of road well at times it can be quite dicey[/p][/quote]I also know it well and I know what people can be like along there. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

2:46am Wed 19 Feb 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
mike coll wrote:
Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker.
As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.
I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way.

Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers.

What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way?

I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into.
Most headlights do this, even the more moder LED headlights do it, it's because they're in a fixed position, when a vehicle goes through a slight dip, the beam changes direction for a split second giving the illusion of that vehicle flashing it's lights.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Over here (Ex Pat) if you have a full car licence you can ride upto a 125cc with no test what so ever, and many do. its a good way to get the seat mob out of the cars and into the saddle, at least when the riders get back into the cars they then look out for the biker. As a biker for 33 years I have had cars pull across me three times, and three times the car collected me. in a car you have to many distractions today, hands free, music, screaming kids being taken the half mile to school, cars are full of protection zones, bikes are still bikes, with fragile riders on board.[/p][/quote]I'm going to be slated for this, but here goes in the nicest way. Motorbikes often have halogen Headlamps which when you go through a slight dip happen to flash at oncomers. What do people think when they see a flash of headlight? Give way? I'm in no way suggesting this happened in this instance, but these modern lights should be looked into.[/p][/quote]Most headlights do this, even the more moder LED headlights do it, it's because they're in a fixed position, when a vehicle goes through a slight dip, the beam changes direction for a split second giving the illusion of that vehicle flashing it's lights. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 6

7:43am Wed 19 Feb 14

becksbeare says...

According to the Highway Code a vehicle flashes to warn of their presence. It does not, and should not EVER be considered a substitute for checking your manuevre is safe to execute.
According to the Highway Code a vehicle flashes to warn of their presence. It does not, and should not EVER be considered a substitute for checking your manuevre is safe to execute. becksbeare
  • Score: 18

10:50am Wed 19 Feb 14

sotontotty says...

I have reported this thread so hopefully all the inappropriate comments will be removed and then shut off so no more comments can be added. R.I.P Bubbles x
I have reported this thread so hopefully all the inappropriate comments will be removed and then shut off so no more comments can be added. R.I.P Bubbles x sotontotty
  • Score: 8

11:07am Wed 19 Feb 14

Coppertoprich says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read.

RIP love x
I totally agree. I knew this lady many years ago, and went to many wonderful biker's parties organised by her, beginning with the one celebrating her 21st birthday. Very very sad. We can see how it looks, let's wait for the result of the investigation.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Surely comments on sensitive articles like this should be disabled until the investigation has taken place. It just encourages people to come up with some half baked story about what they think happened for the family and friends to read. RIP love x[/p][/quote]I totally agree. I knew this lady many years ago, and went to many wonderful biker's parties organised by her, beginning with the one celebrating her 21st birthday. Very very sad. We can see how it looks, let's wait for the result of the investigation. Coppertoprich
  • Score: 6

11:10am Wed 19 Feb 14

Coppertoprich says...

sotontotty wrote:
I have reported this thread so hopefully all the inappropriate comments will be removed and then shut off so no more comments can be added. R.I.P Bubbles x
Yes indeed, R.I.P Bubbles, a fun loving lady who gave us lots of fun with the Bubbles Ball back in the 80's.
[quote][p][bold]sotontotty[/bold] wrote: I have reported this thread so hopefully all the inappropriate comments will be removed and then shut off so no more comments can be added. R.I.P Bubbles x[/p][/quote]Yes indeed, R.I.P Bubbles, a fun loving lady who gave us lots of fun with the Bubbles Ball back in the 80's. Coppertoprich
  • Score: 9

1:53pm Wed 19 Feb 14

brucetheboss says...

dolomiteman wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident...
The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way...
Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver..
Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.
I don't know why the police bother having an expert crash investigation team when all they need to do is post a pic on this website, age is no indication of how long someone has been riding or driving nor do a few pictures paint a real story behind the reasons for a collision or any outcome as to a conviction for an offence that may or may not have occurred..
And why oh why do the echo insist of posting pics in the first place, I'm sure the families involved will be happy see the carnage.
In the meantime my condolences to all involved.
Sincere condolences to all family and friends involved. My cousin died last year in a Motorcycle accident and the grieving is still with his immediate family. Have to agree with dolomiteman pictures of the scene serve no one but the press, deriving any real meaningful clue from the pictures alone as to what happened is futile. The police spend hours there after so the cause of each accident is not always obvious.To presume anything this unfortunate woman's motorcycling past because she is a woman is pure unneeded speculation. RIP
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Although it is too early to get the outcome of the accident... The pictures printed here by the echo, would indicate that the car turned right into a side road, in front of the motorcyclist, who had the right of way... Which would lead to death by dangerous driving for the car driver.. Such a shame that someone who presumably had been riding for a long time, as a 50 yr old woman biker, would likely have ridden for years, as few women, buy bikes at a later stage in life, unlike men, who often return to biking at 45-50 having not ridden since teenage years.[/p][/quote]I don't know why the police bother having an expert crash investigation team when all they need to do is post a pic on this website, age is no indication of how long someone has been riding or driving nor do a few pictures paint a real story behind the reasons for a collision or any outcome as to a conviction for an offence that may or may not have occurred.. And why oh why do the echo insist of posting pics in the first place, I'm sure the families involved will be happy see the carnage. In the meantime my condolences to all involved.[/p][/quote]Sincere condolences to all family and friends involved. My cousin died last year in a Motorcycle accident and the grieving is still with his immediate family. Have to agree with dolomiteman pictures of the scene serve no one but the press, deriving any real meaningful clue from the pictures alone as to what happened is futile. The police spend hours there after so the cause of each accident is not always obvious.To presume anything this unfortunate woman's motorcycling past because she is a woman is pure unneeded speculation. RIP brucetheboss
  • Score: -3

7:13pm Wed 19 Feb 14

mitzsand lyn says...

if this is the Lady that went around with her pet rats at times i remember her from the vets she was lovely lady to talk too may you rest in peace x and my condolences to the family's
if this is the Lady that went around with her pet rats at times i remember her from the vets she was lovely lady to talk too may you rest in peace x and my condolences to the family's mitzsand lyn
  • Score: 3

9:48pm Wed 19 Feb 14

nortonman says...

This rider was an experienced motorcyclist who had been going to Shetland for the last 30 years. She will be sadly missed whoever's fault it was. Such a sad day for fellow riders and friends all over the UK and in Europe. RIP Bubbles, you were one in a million.
Stuart, Caithness
This rider was an experienced motorcyclist who had been going to Shetland for the last 30 years. She will be sadly missed whoever's fault it was. Such a sad day for fellow riders and friends all over the UK and in Europe. RIP Bubbles, you were one in a million. Stuart, Caithness nortonman
  • Score: 7

6:54pm Sat 22 Feb 14

paulrnewbery says...

Very sad, brings back memories of last year when my brother was flown to southhampton hospital after motorcycle accident but they could not save him. My thoughts are with you all.
Very sad, brings back memories of last year when my brother was flown to southhampton hospital after motorcycle accident but they could not save him. My thoughts are with you all. paulrnewbery
  • Score: 4

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