Vandals target yet more buses showering passengers in glass

Alison Henderson from First Bus inspects the damage after the attack

Alison Henderson from First Bus inspects the damage after the attack

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

AN elderly man was showered with glass after the bus he was travelling in came under attack from yobs.

The man was one of several passengers who were forced to take cover when two buses were targeted by a gang.

The vehicles had their windows smashed they travelled along Shirley Road, near to Mandela Way just after yesterday morning’s rush hour.

Passengers said that it was lucky an elderly man wasn’t blinded by as shards of glass fell on his face.

Connor Greenfield, said “I heard a smash and felt a small object brush past my face, I turn to the left to see the window smashed and an old man with the look of shock on his face as a piece of glass fell on to him.”

First were forced to divert four bus services away from Shirley Road for three hours while they reported the issue to police.

The latest attack comes just days after First had to withdraw services going through the Redbridge Hill area of Millbrook, after mindless yobs repeatedly hurled stones at buses, again shattering the windows on two vehicles.

Cabinet member for communities and councillor for Shirley ward, Satvir Kaur, said: “It is very worrying. A lot of residents rely on the bus services in the area and we have been trying to get people to use more public transport in the city.”

Cllr Kaur is also chairman of the Safe City Partnership which aims to tackle antisocial behaviour in Southampton and she is keen to highlight the issue at the next meeting.

She added: “I will be working with local police in the area to ensure measures are put in place to stop this kind of thing from happening.”

“I would like to see this nipped in the bud and to make sure the individuals are made accountable.”

A First spokesman said: “We are extremely concerned about this latest instance of vandalism, the fourth on our vehicles within a week.

“Fortunately, none of our staff or customers were harmed in this latest unprovoked attack and we are working closely again with the police to identify who was responsible.

“We would urge anyone who witnessed the incident to contact the police as our main priority is the safety and protection of our drivers and customers.”

Anyone with information about the latest attack can contact Hampshire police on 101.

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4:34am Fri 21 Feb 14

Sammy2sheds says...

If these kids were underage they should punish the parents.
No fags or bingo for a month.
If these kids were underage they should punish the parents. No fags or bingo for a month. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 62

5:52am Fri 21 Feb 14

Huey says...

Ahhhh what a place.
Ahhhh what a place. Huey
  • Score: 12

5:52am Fri 21 Feb 14

theburrower says...

Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force. theburrower
  • Score: 71

6:43am Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

theburrower wrote:
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
you'd need an officer on every corner so you want a police state?
Guess what? another Council(part) estate
[quote][p][bold]theburrower[/bold] wrote: Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.[/p][/quote]you'd need an officer on every corner so you want a police state? Guess what? another Council(part) estate loosehead
  • Score: -35

6:45am Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

forgot it's half term & the Echo did a article on Millbrook Green Park Estate & now look it's Monkey Sees Monkey do.
forgot it's half term & the Echo did a article on Millbrook Green Park Estate & now look it's Monkey Sees Monkey do. loosehead
  • Score: 17

7:07am Fri 21 Feb 14

Forest Resident says...

theburrower wrote:
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.
[quote][p][bold]theburrower[/bold] wrote: Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.[/p][/quote]There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer. Forest Resident
  • Score: 21

7:43am Fri 21 Feb 14

__KTF__ says...

This will stop next week as the kids wont be 'bored' by being at home all day rather than in school.

Of course, this assumes that these rocket scientists actually go to school...
This will stop next week as the kids wont be 'bored' by being at home all day rather than in school. Of course, this assumes that these rocket scientists actually go to school... __KTF__
  • Score: 21

8:05am Fri 21 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

'Fourth incident in a week' once in millbrook and this one. Where were the other two?
'Fourth incident in a week' once in millbrook and this one. Where were the other two? KSO16R
  • Score: 4

8:23am Fri 21 Feb 14

sotonman2012 says...

I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase.

Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect.

In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ??

I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age.
I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase. Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect. In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ?? I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age. sotonman2012
  • Score: 8

9:07am Fri 21 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

sotonman2012 wrote:
I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase.

Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect.

In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ??

I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age.
Inconsistant parenting from people poorly equiped to cope with the challenges they face. Parents need to be held accountable for sure but those same parents will need support. I don't believe life is tougher today than years ago but for some it certainly seems more hopeless. Young people feel lifes pressures at increasingly younger ages. The abuse 'thrown' at these children can inflict as much harm as the stones they throw at a bus.
[quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase. Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect. In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ?? I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age.[/p][/quote]Inconsistant parenting from people poorly equiped to cope with the challenges they face. Parents need to be held accountable for sure but those same parents will need support. I don't believe life is tougher today than years ago but for some it certainly seems more hopeless. Young people feel lifes pressures at increasingly younger ages. The abuse 'thrown' at these children can inflict as much harm as the stones they throw at a bus. KSO16R
  • Score: -3

10:03am Fri 21 Feb 14

Taskforce 141 says...

I'm glad to hear cllr Kaur is going to do something about this and "nip it in the bud". Its just a shame it has already bloomed!

And with cuts to police front line and cuts to SSC's Community Safety Team, who exactly will be doing the nipping?

Also if the children are under age what exactly will their punishment be? At the very least I believe the parents of the youths should foot the bill for repairs (that's if they are identified).
I'm glad to hear cllr Kaur is going to do something about this and "nip it in the bud". Its just a shame it has already bloomed! And with cuts to police front line and cuts to SSC's Community Safety Team, who exactly will be doing the nipping? Also if the children are under age what exactly will their punishment be? At the very least I believe the parents of the youths should foot the bill for repairs (that's if they are identified). Taskforce 141
  • Score: 16

10:40am Fri 21 Feb 14

Bassett Boy says...

how about making them run down the road and people can throw stones at them!
eye for an eye punishment
how about making them run down the road and people can throw stones at them! eye for an eye punishment Bassett Boy
  • Score: 16

12:02pm Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Forest Resident wrote:
theburrower wrote:
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.
Sorry did the government say cut front line police officers or did not Teresa May say cut senior management as the police force is top heavy?
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theburrower[/bold] wrote: Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.[/p][/quote]There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.[/p][/quote]Sorry did the government say cut front line police officers or did not Teresa May say cut senior management as the police force is top heavy? loosehead
  • Score: 2

12:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

The irate commuter says...

Police need to speak to the fathers of these kids .... oh hang on !!
Police need to speak to the fathers of these kids .... oh hang on !! The irate commuter
  • Score: 12

12:10pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
If these kids were underage they should punish the parents.
No fags or bingo for a month.
And no fags or booze for the kids.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: If these kids were underage they should punish the parents. No fags or bingo for a month.[/p][/quote]And no fags or booze for the kids. Inform Al
  • Score: 16

12:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred! loosehead
  • Score: 13

12:17pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

I used to sit on the Safe City Partnership until it was made officers and professionals only. I suspect that with the demise of policing in Hampshire a reversion to the original make up would be desirable. If like me you are opposed to paying for a call to contact the police then you can also call 08450454545. This call is free on many landline contracts, whereas 101 is not on any..
I used to sit on the Safe City Partnership until it was made officers and professionals only. I suspect that with the demise of policing in Hampshire a reversion to the original make up would be desirable. If like me you are opposed to paying for a call to contact the police then you can also call 08450454545. This call is free on many landline contracts, whereas 101 is not on any.. Inform Al
  • Score: 6

12:22pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming. Inform Al
  • Score: 6

12:49pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SwedeSaint says...

loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Maybe you should've stayed in education a little longer.....
I'm willing to bet that you do not have children.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Maybe you should've stayed in education a little longer..... I'm willing to bet that you do not have children. SwedeSaint
  • Score: -8

1:02pm Fri 21 Feb 14

kiddynamite says...

ah what a lovely place. Everyday there is a news story about this dump.
ah what a lovely place. Everyday there is a news story about this dump. kiddynamite
  • Score: 5

1:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

camerajuan says...

I've seen stuff like this growing up and now witnessing it all over the rougher areas of the city. One question still burns in my mind from the first time I saw it happen until now at the age of 30 I ask these tw@s this.

"What's the point?"
I've seen stuff like this growing up and now witnessing it all over the rougher areas of the city. One question still burns in my mind from the first time I saw it happen until now at the age of 30 I ask these tw@s this. "What's the point?" camerajuan
  • Score: 5

1:12pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SwedeSaint says...

kiddynamite wrote:
ah what a lovely place. Everyday there is a news story about this dump.
Yes, mindless vandalism wouldn't happen in Whiteley now would it....
http://www.wwgazette
.co.uk/2011/06/white
ley-school-picnic-be
nches-wrecked-by-van
dals/
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: ah what a lovely place. Everyday there is a news story about this dump.[/p][/quote]Yes, mindless vandalism wouldn't happen in Whiteley now would it.... http://www.wwgazette .co.uk/2011/06/white ley-school-picnic-be nches-wrecked-by-van dals/ SwedeSaint
  • Score: -1

1:20pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SOULJACKER says...

This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway.
We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.
This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway. We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 1

1:23pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

Forest Resident wrote:
theburrower wrote:
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.
I think I can help. The bus company should say that the youths were chanting rac-ist, homophobic (you choose, doesn't matter) slogans, or were doing domestic violence to each other or included Dave Lee Travis and William Roache plus Rebekah Brookes and you'd have enough coppers on scene to stretch to the moon. Oh yes, our Thin Blue Line has got far more important tasks than mollycoddling a few old bus passengers.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theburrower[/bold] wrote: Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.[/p][/quote]There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.[/p][/quote]I think I can help. The bus company should say that the youths were chanting rac-ist, homophobic (you choose, doesn't matter) slogans, or were doing domestic violence to each other or included Dave Lee Travis and William Roache plus Rebekah Brookes and you'd have enough coppers on scene to stretch to the moon. Oh yes, our Thin Blue Line has got far more important tasks than mollycoddling a few old bus passengers. Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

1:40pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

What's actually quite sad is these youths probably find it good fun. It's not until they actually kill someone and get charged with murder that they'll actually realise how dumb they are.
What's actually quite sad is these youths probably find it good fun. It's not until they actually kill someone and get charged with murder that they'll actually realise how dumb they are. Loveyourcity
  • Score: 13

2:44pm Fri 21 Feb 14

LadySam says...

They do it because they know nothing will be done to them. Find a copper A huge area encompassing Lords Hill, Shirley, Millbrook and NO police station. Plenty of police cars but no foot patrols. No, we don't want a police state but an actual police presence would be nice!
They do it because they know nothing will be done to them. Find a copper [if you can] A huge area encompassing Lords Hill, Shirley, Millbrook and NO police station. Plenty of police cars but no foot patrols. No, we don't want a police state but an actual police presence would be nice! LadySam
  • Score: 22

2:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

academyofmusic says...

The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much.
My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system!
It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance?
The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much. My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system! It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance? academyofmusic
  • Score: -4

3:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway.
We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.
Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway. We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.[/p][/quote]Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up. Loveyourcity
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

Loveyourcity wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway.
We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.
Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up.
Actually on saying that Hampshire Police are not currently recruiting specials?????

The mind boggles, they are cutting costs and cutting free help!
[quote][p][bold]Loveyourcity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway. We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.[/p][/quote]Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up.[/p][/quote]Actually on saying that Hampshire Police are not currently recruiting specials????? The mind boggles, they are cutting costs and cutting free help! Loveyourcity
  • Score: 2

3:44pm Fri 21 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
theburrower wrote:
Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.
There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.
I think I can help. The bus company should say that the youths were chanting rac-ist, homophobic (you choose, doesn't matter) slogans, or were doing domestic violence to each other or included Dave Lee Travis and William Roache plus Rebekah Brookes and you'd have enough coppers on scene to stretch to the moon. Oh yes, our Thin Blue Line has got far more important tasks than mollycoddling a few old bus passengers.
Too much fannying around eh?
Well, whilst these problems do accelerate during the school holidays, these kids are often led by some other older more wanton feral youths who are even worse and showing off, and certainly not wiser. So step forward some elder brothers and dad's to exact some 'local discipline' and provide some more rounded examples to these fools- we know you're there.
The police/authorities should be a last resort.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theburrower[/bold] wrote: Instead of the police the police rolling out the "ring 101 if you have any information" why don't they actually patrol the streets, preferably on foot. At the moment these gangs know that the chances of being seen by the police is almost zero. And to think Hampshire police are cutting an already ineffectual force.[/p][/quote]There is no 'magic box' of Police Officers to deploy instantaneously, let alone be on foot patrol in every given area all of the time, that simply is not practical. If you knew how few actual uniformed warranted Police Officers there were available to respond in Southampton or indeed the New Forest I'm sure you would understand. The only ones truly at fault here are the government for making real term 25% cuts in Policing and the elected Police and Crime Commissioner for tolerating these cuts and simply trying to pass on the cost to the taxpayer.[/p][/quote]I think I can help. The bus company should say that the youths were chanting rac-ist, homophobic (you choose, doesn't matter) slogans, or were doing domestic violence to each other or included Dave Lee Travis and William Roache plus Rebekah Brookes and you'd have enough coppers on scene to stretch to the moon. Oh yes, our Thin Blue Line has got far more important tasks than mollycoddling a few old bus passengers.[/p][/quote]Too much fannying around eh? Well, whilst these problems do accelerate during the school holidays, these kids are often led by some other older more wanton feral youths who are even worse and showing off, and certainly not wiser. So step forward some elder brothers and dad's to exact some 'local discipline' and provide some more rounded examples to these fools- we know you're there. The police/authorities should be a last resort. lowe esteem
  • Score: 3

4:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

SwedeSaint wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Maybe you should've stayed in education a little longer.....
I'm willing to bet that you do not have children.
maybe you should have learnt to read as well as write? I said I had to leave school as my mother wanted me to earn money.
my mother took all my wages & I had to do part time jobs to get some money for myself(log rounds,milk rounds).
What I think the present system isn't working where children know they can basically do what they like with no punishment even if the parents stop there allowance or take away their Playstations they just divorce the parents,
if they get an ASBO or whatever it is now that's a sign of how tough they are so sorry my being a parent has nothing to do with it,
I went to the Chief Inspector of Shirley & asked him about it I asked him to put officers in the empty flats so they could catch the yobs no deal.
I suggested a city wide Basketball league to a councillor no way.
I've seen old people with dementia attacked in their flats & robbed of everything & the scums mother said "boy's will be boy's a bit of thieving is just growing up" is that what being a parent is?
I tried stopping them and got attacked no help from the police or the council this was all before this government.
Give back the power to parents to be parents & those that can't be bothered hammer but let's get these kids being just that not mini hoodlums
[quote][p][bold]SwedeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Maybe you should've stayed in education a little longer..... I'm willing to bet that you do not have children.[/p][/quote]maybe you should have learnt to read as well as write? I said I had to leave school as my mother wanted me to earn money. my mother took all my wages & I had to do part time jobs to get some money for myself(log rounds,milk rounds). What I think the present system isn't working where children know they can basically do what they like with no punishment even if the parents stop there allowance or take away their Playstations they just divorce the parents, if they get an ASBO or whatever it is now that's a sign of how tough they are so sorry my being a parent has nothing to do with it, I went to the Chief Inspector of Shirley & asked him about it I asked him to put officers in the empty flats so they could catch the yobs no deal. I suggested a city wide Basketball league to a councillor no way. I've seen old people with dementia attacked in their flats & robbed of everything & the scums mother said "boy's will be boy's a bit of thieving is just growing up" is that what being a parent is? I tried stopping them and got attacked no help from the police or the council this was all before this government. Give back the power to parents to be parents & those that can't be bothered hammer but let's get these kids being just that not mini hoodlums loosehead
  • Score: 7

4:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power loosehead
  • Score: 3

4:18pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Donald2000 says...

I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows?

Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder?

Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out.
I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows? Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder? Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out. Donald2000
  • Score: 3

4:44pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Theophilus says...

Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police?
Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police? Theophilus
  • Score: 2

4:46pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

Theophilus wrote:
Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police?
I'm sure looking at CCTV of masked up hooded youths will solve the problem.

Even the Police aren't that stupid.
[quote][p][bold]Theophilus[/bold] wrote: Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police?[/p][/quote]I'm sure looking at CCTV of masked up hooded youths will solve the problem. Even the Police aren't that stupid. Loveyourcity
  • Score: 2

4:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Bagamn says...

Donald2000 wrote:
I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows?

Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder?

Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out.
Nowhere does it say that these kids are from a Council Estate. This happened at the bottom of Shirley. There are no estates in this area. Don't tar everyone with the same brush as you are misinformed.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows? Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder? Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out.[/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say that these kids are from a Council Estate. This happened at the bottom of Shirley. There are no estates in this area. Don't tar everyone with the same brush as you are misinformed. Bagamn
  • Score: -8

4:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Donald2000 says...

Bagamn wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows?

Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder?

Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out.
Nowhere does it say that these kids are from a Council Estate. This happened at the bottom of Shirley. There are no estates in this area. Don't tar everyone with the same brush as you are misinformed.
Nelson Mandela Way? Is this not a council estate? By the way, you still have not answered my primary assertion about the lives and futures of these youngsters except to make your technical point about where it is. I know where it is anyway. How about answering the point about the activities of these youngsters? Or haven't you got an answer?
[quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: I am just worried about where these persons are getting the ideas from that it is alright to stone public transport with the risk of injury and maybe even death to the drivers and/or passengers? Do we come into their homes and stamp on their x-boxes and smash their windows? Where do these persons think they are going? Who do they think will employ them with a criminal record for damaging public property and possibly attempted murder? Why are we also not asking salient questions about why these people are on council estates and being allowed to act like animals, while the council sits on its fat backside and denies all knowledge of it. Seems to me that all of this needs a really good shakeup to find out what tumbles out.[/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say that these kids are from a Council Estate. This happened at the bottom of Shirley. There are no estates in this area. Don't tar everyone with the same brush as you are misinformed.[/p][/quote]Nelson Mandela Way? Is this not a council estate? By the way, you still have not answered my primary assertion about the lives and futures of these youngsters except to make your technical point about where it is. I know where it is anyway. How about answering the point about the activities of these youngsters? Or haven't you got an answer? Donald2000
  • Score: 4

5:11pm Fri 21 Feb 14

I D Rugman says...

academyofmusic wrote:
The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much.
My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system!
It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance?
1, you have the wrong bus company. 2, voice announcements of the next stop is a central government/ RNIB scheme.
[quote][p][bold]academyofmusic[/bold] wrote: The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much. My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system! It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance?[/p][/quote]1, you have the wrong bus company. 2, voice announcements of the next stop is a central government/ RNIB scheme. I D Rugman
  • Score: 1

5:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

I D Rugman says...

academyofmusic wrote:
The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much.
My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system!
It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance?
1, you have the wrong bus company. 2, voice announcements of the next stop is a central government/ RNIB scheme.
[quote][p][bold]academyofmusic[/bold] wrote: The kids are mad as the bus prices have gone up so much. My travel has gone up by 80p one way... and what do they spend it on? New buses, new ticket machines and all this voice telling us which stop is next... we don't need it so stop charging us more so you can have a more up to date digital system! It seems they are trying to be like london buses as they do the same sort of thing. If that is the case why can't they change us like london buses to and make it £2 flat rate no matter of distance?[/p][/quote]1, you have the wrong bus company. 2, voice announcements of the next stop is a central government/ RNIB scheme. I D Rugman
  • Score: 1

5:37pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power[/p][/quote]So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

5:41pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

Nelson Mandela Way? Is this not a council estate? By the way, you still have not answered my primary assertion about the lives and futures of these youngsters except to make your technical point about where it is. I know where it is anyway. How about answering the point about the activities of these youngsters? Or haven't you got an answer?
I thought it was where Del Boy and Rodders lived. If the police go round I bet they're flogging rocks to the local dimwits
Nelson Mandela Way? Is this not a council estate? By the way, you still have not answered my primary assertion about the lives and futures of these youngsters except to make your technical point about where it is. I know where it is anyway. How about answering the point about the activities of these youngsters? Or haven't you got an answer? I thought it was where Del Boy and Rodders lived. If the police go round I bet they're flogging rocks to the local dimwits Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

"So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK"
They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"?
"So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK" They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"? Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

5:49pm Fri 21 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.
Loosehead you are losing it. Calm down take a deep breath and think about what you are writing.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power[/p][/quote]So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.[/p][/quote]Loosehead you are losing it. Calm down take a deep breath and think about what you are writing. KSO16R
  • Score: -5

5:50pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK"
They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"?
Talking from an orifice as usual, the Flower Roads are nowhere near the places that buses were stoned. And no, most of the men of working age on the estate are working, even if in some cases the pay is so low that they get benefits. Most of those are in the 60% of the houses that are let at high rents by private landlords.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK" They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"?[/p][/quote]Talking from an orifice as usual, the Flower Roads are nowhere near the places that buses were stoned. And no, most of the men of working age on the estate are working, even if in some cases the pay is so low that they get benefits. Most of those are in the 60% of the houses that are let at high rents by private landlords. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

5:52pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Donald2000 says...

Sweed wrote:
sotonman2012 wrote:
I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase.

Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect.

In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ??

I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age.
I was on one of the buses that got hit by Mandela Way, the bus was heading towards town and approaching the traffic lights at the bottom of Hill Lane. If you know the area then you know that the kids who threw the stone would have been in an elevated position with an easy escape route. Myself and other passengers tried looking out of the window for them and nothing, they were already gone.

Even if somebody tried to give chase they would have had to try and climb up a steep and slippery grass bank.
This is no excuse for inactivity. Someone must know who they are and what I suggest you do next time is to call the police, rather than coming in here and saying you can't do anything.

I used to work on the railways. I saw people being robbed in front of me one day on the Southern line from Clapham Junction to Brighton. Guess what everyone sat there pretending not to notice while I had to phone the police by myself. Get off the bus and get after them; have some guts.
[quote][p][bold]Sweed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: I find it amazing none of the passengers on any of these bus's spot the vandals or even give chase, I know if I was travelling on a bus through Southampton & someone threw a object through the window I'd give chase. Also everyone is blaming the parents but with kids these days you can't give them a slap because that's wrong, you can't ground them because that's wrong, can't send them to bed with no dinner because that's neglect. In no way shape or form am I trying to take the seriousness of the offences away because someone could of easily been killed, but if parents aren't allowed to punish there kids it becomes a vicious circle of events, the only reason these attacks are happening is because it's half term, all the parks are flooded & let's face facts everything "fun" for youths in Southampton is shut down, when I was a kid we had Oaklands swimming pool. way out west, ocean village arcades amongst other things, take all that away from the youth & what do you expect them to do ?? I hope these vandals get caught soon & punished regardless of there age.[/p][/quote]I was on one of the buses that got hit by Mandela Way, the bus was heading towards town and approaching the traffic lights at the bottom of Hill Lane. If you know the area then you know that the kids who threw the stone would have been in an elevated position with an easy escape route. Myself and other passengers tried looking out of the window for them and nothing, they were already gone. Even if somebody tried to give chase they would have had to try and climb up a steep and slippery grass bank.[/p][/quote]This is no excuse for inactivity. Someone must know who they are and what I suggest you do next time is to call the police, rather than coming in here and saying you can't do anything. I used to work on the railways. I saw people being robbed in front of me one day on the Southern line from Clapham Junction to Brighton. Guess what everyone sat there pretending not to notice while I had to phone the police by myself. Get off the bus and get after them; have some guts. Donald2000
  • Score: -2

6:12pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK"
They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"?
Talking from an orifice as usual, the Flower Roads are nowhere near the places that buses were stoned. And no, most of the men of working age on the estate are working, even if in some cases the pay is so low that they get benefits. Most of those are in the 60% of the houses that are let at high rents by private landlords.
If you've got problems with your orifice is this the place to air them? Talk to your doctor in private madam. You clearly are an expert on the subject and I bow to your superior knowledge. The rent I charge for my buy to let in Southampton is reasonable and I agree it is sad for these people, but of what, do you say, are they deprived?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK" They've got loads of assets. The assets are all out there lobbing rocks at buses. In your world, does "deprived" mean "gets shedloads of welfare dosh"?[/p][/quote]Talking from an orifice as usual, the Flower Roads are nowhere near the places that buses were stoned. And no, most of the men of working age on the estate are working, even if in some cases the pay is so low that they get benefits. Most of those are in the 60% of the houses that are let at high rents by private landlords.[/p][/quote]If you've got problems with your orifice is this the place to air them? Talk to your doctor in private madam. You clearly are an expert on the subject and I bow to your superior knowledge. The rent I charge for my buy to let in Southampton is reasonable and I agree it is sad for these people, but of what, do you say, are they deprived? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Fri 21 Feb 14

vpharm says...

find these yobs & jail them for 5 years per offence!
Tell the parents they are to be evicted from the council house as well.
Then watch as yobs behave!

Ideally give the yobs a severe beating!
find these yobs & jail them for 5 years per offence! Tell the parents they are to be evicted from the council house as well. Then watch as yobs behave! Ideally give the yobs a severe beating! vpharm
  • Score: 5

7:10pm Fri 21 Feb 14

vpharm says...

put armed police on the buses & allow them to shoot the yobs.
eventually yobs will be wiped out!
put armed police on the buses & allow them to shoot the yobs. eventually yobs will be wiped out! vpharm
  • Score: 4

7:19pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

vpharm wrote:
put armed police on the buses & allow them to shoot the yobs.
eventually yobs will be wiped out!
That's right, cure violence with violence.

Considering many of these kids are bought up in drunk fuelled houses they know nothing better.
[quote][p][bold]vpharm[/bold] wrote: put armed police on the buses & allow them to shoot the yobs. eventually yobs will be wiped out![/p][/quote]That's right, cure violence with violence. Considering many of these kids are bought up in drunk fuelled houses they know nothing better. Loveyourcity
  • Score: -4

7:24pm Fri 21 Feb 14

oldage says...

Make them become bus drivers ! see how nice the job is NOT outting up with scum
Make them become bus drivers ! see how nice the job is NOT outting up with scum oldage
  • Score: 1

7:41pm Fri 21 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.
Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities?
OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power[/p][/quote]So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.[/p][/quote]Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities? OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action loosehead
  • Score: 4

7:59pm Fri 21 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live.
Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live. KSO16R
  • Score: -1

8:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

Inform Al wrote:
I used to sit on the Safe City Partnership until it was made officers and professionals only. I suspect that with the demise of policing in Hampshire a reversion to the original make up would be desirable. If like me you are opposed to paying for a call to contact the police then you can also callIt was probably so they could have idiots like Kaur making decisions. Not a proactive bone in her body, doesn't respond to e-mails or calls!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: I used to sit on the Safe City Partnership until it was made officers and professionals only. I suspect that with the demise of policing in Hampshire a reversion to the original make up would be desirable. If like me you are opposed to paying for a call to contact the police then you can also callIt was probably so they could have idiots like Kaur making decisions. Not a proactive bone in her body, doesn't respond to e-mails or calls! sotonboy84
  • Score: 1

8:27pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.
Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities?
OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action
You are getting as disengenuous as your shepherd. I never said it was OK to close any community centre by any party. In this case it's scale of the offence that counts. We did have facilities in London, but stil threw snowballs at bus conductors after scouts.l
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power[/p][/quote]So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.[/p][/quote]Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities? OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action[/p][/quote]You are getting as disengenuous as your shepherd. I never said it was OK to close any community centre by any party. In this case it's scale of the offence that counts. We did have facilities in London, but stil threw snowballs at bus conductors after scouts.l Inform Al
  • Score: -1

8:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

vpharm wrote:
find these yobs & jail them for 5 years per offence!
Tell the parents they are to be evicted from the council house as well.
Then watch as yobs behave!

Ideally give the yobs a severe beating!
Pr4tt. When we had problems on the Flower Roads estate they were sorted out by very good police officer who worked her socks off. Only one of the offenders that were put away was a council house tenant, all the rest were either tenants of private landlords or their parents owned therir homes.
[quote][p][bold]vpharm[/bold] wrote: find these yobs & jail them for 5 years per offence! Tell the parents they are to be evicted from the council house as well. Then watch as yobs behave! Ideally give the yobs a severe beating![/p][/quote]Pr4tt. When we had problems on the Flower Roads estate they were sorted out by very good police officer who worked her socks off. Only one of the offenders that were put away was a council house tenant, all the rest were either tenants of private landlords or their parents owned therir homes. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

8:32pm Fri 21 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all.
So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them.
they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really?
when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble!
I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped.
many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids?
stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred!
Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.
Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power
So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.
Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities?
OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action
You are getting as disengenuous as your shepherd. I never said it was OK to close any community centre by any party. In this case it's scale of the offence that counts. We did have facilities in London, but stil threw snowballs at bus conductors after scouts.l
The offence has more to do with human nature than politics.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I had to leave school at 15 to get work to pay my way in the family now they don't they can stay on & go through University & as long as there pay's not £30,000 they don't pay anything at all. So pressures on the young? what pressures? they have community halls they have churches that run youth clubs they have all types of sports clubs chasing them. they can stay late at school & use the school computers to do their homework/revision so pressured really? when Whitehead had a meet the electors day in Randolph/Freemantle community hall I was ushered over to a lady who was with him I said why not set up a Basketball league (city) so these kids have a reason to keep it in a good state & to keep out of trouble! I was told they had tried that but the two opposing teams & their supporters turned up with chains bars & knifes so that idea was scrapped. many of those kids came from Mandela way so what do you expect from these "I'M an American Gangsta" kids? stop making excuses for them & maybe bring back the stocks & throw rotten tomatoes at them & put it on TV then let's see their street cred![/p][/quote]Cheers loosehead, now you've got me worried. Thanks to the previous council administration we have no community centres on the Flower Roads so I now expect the kids here to run riot. Perhaps that's why First Bus only run a bus up here every, well nearly every, half hour with no buses after about 19.30. They must know what's coming.[/p][/quote]Al the community centre in Randolph street was shut as a youth club by a Labour Council with a Labour Government in power[/p][/quote]So that makes it OK then for the Tories to remove ALL the community assetts from an estate recognised by the Tory Baroness Newlove as one of the 7 most deprived in the UK.[/p][/quote]Why attack one council because it's a Tory council but not attack a Labour council for doing the same thing? doesn't it fit with your political agenda to admit that both councils for one reason or another have shut youth facilities? OH! as we/I never had these facilities when I was young & I never stoned busses the lack of those facilities are no excuse for this action[/p][/quote]You are getting as disengenuous as your shepherd. I never said it was OK to close any community centre by any party. In this case it's scale of the offence that counts. We did have facilities in London, but stil threw snowballs at bus conductors after scouts.l[/p][/quote]The offence has more to do with human nature than politics. KSO16R
  • Score: 0

9:42pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sirruler says...

southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat.
southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat. sirruler
  • Score: 1

10:00pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Donald2000 says...

sirruler wrote:
southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat.
That's the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. Believe me, Southampton has many officers, a lot of whom I have worked with. With your maths we would only have 14 officers for our population. You are seriously nuts.
[quote][p][bold]sirruler[/bold] wrote: southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat.[/p][/quote]That's the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. Believe me, Southampton has many officers, a lot of whom I have worked with. With your maths we would only have 14 officers for our population. You are seriously nuts. Donald2000
  • Score: -1

10:32pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Pobinr says...

Scumdela way Township
Scumdela way Township Pobinr
  • Score: 1

5:54am Sat 22 Feb 14

oldage says...

Theophilus wrote:
Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police?
Most of our buses have camera's but most of them do not work !Supposed to be for out protection (tut tut tut) !!
[quote][p][bold]Theophilus[/bold] wrote: Buses in some cities have cameras... to film motorists using bus lanes (!). Couldn't First Bus fit cameras to Southampton buses to film these vandals and send the evidence to the police?[/p][/quote]Most of our buses have camera's but most of them do not work !Supposed to be for out protection (tut tut tut) !! oldage
  • Score: 0

6:51am Sat 22 Feb 14

notableedingheart says...

We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties.
In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day.
Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it.
We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties. In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day. Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it. notableedingheart
  • Score: 1

7:54am Sat 22 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

notableedingheart wrote:
We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties.
In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day.
Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it.
The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice.
[quote][p][bold]notableedingheart[/bold] wrote: We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties. In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day. Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it.[/p][/quote]The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice. KSO16R
  • Score: -1

7:54am Sat 22 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

notableedingheart wrote:
We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties.
In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day.
Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it.
The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice.
[quote][p][bold]notableedingheart[/bold] wrote: We need a strong robust Police Force who are not afraid to conduct operations in known trouble spots including stopping and searching likely characters. Unfortunately the Police Force has been neutered by many years of the left wing loonies, academics and politicians attacking them, removing or diluting their powers and putting ludicrous barriers in the way of effective Policing. Add to that we must acknowledge the Judicial System that has failed to provide suitable penalties including harsh strong non-prison penalties. In short the crooks and apprentice crooks know their rights, the limits of modern ineffective Policing and the weak penalties should they ever be convicted. The end result is a dysfunctional society such as we are witnessing every day. Time for the Police to be strongly backed, given strong powers, get rid of the butt covering senior Officers and replace them with strong hard-nosed Cops who will be more than happy to get in the face of, and harass, crooks and their ilk. Keep the crooks on the back foot not knowing when or where a "caring sharing" copper will pounce. Sounds like back to the future doesn't it.[/p][/quote]The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice. KSO16R
  • Score: -1

8:20am Sat 22 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

KSO16R wrote:
Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live.
“There is no such thing a society” was not, as some claim, refer to a kind of selfish individualism in which fellow citizens and the collective good are ignored. Rather it refers to the empowerment of the individual who, in the absence of an over-powering and stifling state, can achieve his/her potential when there is a level playing field.

It was a criticism of the culture of entitlement & reliance on the state created after the Second World War & fuelled by successive Labour governments.

And how things haven't changed...
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live.[/p][/quote]“There is no such thing a society” was not, as some claim, refer to a kind of selfish individualism in which fellow citizens and the collective good are ignored. Rather it refers to the empowerment of the individual who, in the absence of an over-powering and stifling state, can achieve his/her potential when there is a level playing field. It was a criticism of the culture of entitlement & reliance on the state created after the Second World War & fuelled by successive Labour governments. And how things haven't changed... sotonboy84
  • Score: 0

8:24am Sat 22 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

"The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice."
No, the reason things like Plebgate hit the headlines is that they're rare. In Nigeria or Venezuela they'd not even make it into the paper.
As notableedingheart says so long as we have a police force that devotes too much of its scarce resource to leftist, feminist, single issue fanatic matters like "hate crimes", domestic violence, historic sexual misdemeanour, female genital mutilation, human trafficking, listening to Lord Prescott's mobile phone messages to Domino Pizza there's going to be a lack of resource available for public, stranger, crime, like this, which is what the citizen looks to the police to stop. Of course don't ignore the stuff closest to the leftist's heart but to be brutally frank people aren't lying awake worrying or afraid to travel because Tracey's giving Kyle a pasting in their council house or ghastly people are doing horrible things to each other in horrible foreign countries or (true one) a female current Chief of the CPS grabbed a current part time CPS employee by his private parts in a City-Centre pub in either 1985 or 1986.
"The police castrate themselves with countless miscarriages of justice." No, the reason things like Plebgate hit the headlines is that they're rare. In Nigeria or Venezuela they'd not even make it into the paper. As notableedingheart says so long as we have a police force that devotes too much of its scarce resource to leftist, feminist, single issue fanatic matters like "hate crimes", domestic violence, historic sexual misdemeanour, female genital mutilation, human trafficking, listening to Lord Prescott's mobile phone messages to Domino Pizza there's going to be a lack of resource available for public, stranger, crime, like this, which is what the citizen looks to the police to stop. Of course don't ignore the stuff closest to the leftist's heart but to be brutally frank people aren't lying awake worrying or afraid to travel because Tracey's giving Kyle a pasting in their council house or ghastly people are doing horrible things to each other in horrible foreign countries or (true one) a female current Chief of the CPS grabbed a current part time CPS employee by his private parts in a City-Centre pub in either 1985 or 1986. Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

12:31pm Sat 22 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

all public services should come out in support and boycott these estates for as long as it takes to bring them into the civillised world.
all public services should come out in support and boycott these estates for as long as it takes to bring them into the civillised world. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: 2

12:38pm Sat 22 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live.
“There is no such thing a society” was not, as some claim, refer to a kind of selfish individualism in which fellow citizens and the collective good are ignored. Rather it refers to the empowerment of the individual who, in the absence of an over-powering and stifling state, can achieve his/her potential when there is a level playing field.

It was a criticism of the culture of entitlement & reliance on the state created after the Second World War & fuelled by successive Labour governments.

And how things haven't changed...
unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Teddy boys ran around with razor blades tucked in their lapels. Mods and rockers beating each other up on bank holidays and margaret thatchers generation taught their isno such thing as society. What shapes the world in which we live.[/p][/quote]“There is no such thing a society” was not, as some claim, refer to a kind of selfish individualism in which fellow citizens and the collective good are ignored. Rather it refers to the empowerment of the individual who, in the absence of an over-powering and stifling state, can achieve his/her potential when there is a level playing field. It was a criticism of the culture of entitlement & reliance on the state created after the Second World War & fuelled by successive Labour governments. And how things haven't changed...[/p][/quote]unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: 2

2:52pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it. Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

3:19pm Sat 22 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: 0

3:22pm Sat 22 Feb 14

loosehead says...

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
[quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves loosehead
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it.. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

5:31pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

"corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though."
Speaking, if I may , for society, we were having our pension funds ripped off by Brown to buy votes, weren't we? You misheard by the way. It was 25 QUADZILLION, all in gold bullion. Problem was it was so heavy that the Cayman Islands sank. Easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle etc, eh what old boy.
And Inform Al as I recall North Korea was formed on the basis of Stalin's Union of SOCIALIST Soviet Republics. It (socialism) was a utopian idea and , in the manner of such ideas, it failed, as does socialism every time. Get over it, as the homosexual "community" is apparently wont to say.
"corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though." Speaking, if I may , for society, we were having our pension funds ripped off by Brown to buy votes, weren't we? You misheard by the way. It was 25 QUADZILLION, all in gold bullion. Problem was it was so heavy that the Cayman Islands sank. Easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle etc, eh what old boy. And Inform Al as I recall North Korea was formed on the basis of Stalin's Union of SOCIALIST Soviet Republics. It (socialism) was a utopian idea and , in the manner of such ideas, it failed, as does socialism every time. Get over it, as the homosexual "community" is apparently wont to say. Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

11:46am Sun 23 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

1:58pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.
I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.[/p][/quote]I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Sun 23 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.
I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people.
Funny that on Daily politics show it was stated what the UKIP candidate in the North was saying UKIP's aims were are so much at odds with what they were saying in the South to try & gain Conservative voters.
Al at the moment UKIP has used the EU as a way to get Eurosceptic Tory voters to vote or join them will those voters stick with UKIP if it's true your a socialist group?
I for one will never vote for the policies you spout in this paper yet I've received many letters & a copy of UKIP's manifesto which seems to be severely at odds with some of the things you have been saying is UKIP policy so who's right you or the official UKIP manifesto?
Oh! before he was usurped the leader of Southampton's branch of UKIP asked me if I'd like to stand for UKIP?
Please go on TV spout your left wing ideology & say it's the UKIP official line & then let's see how many voters return to the Tory fold
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.[/p][/quote]I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people.[/p][/quote]Funny that on Daily politics show it was stated what the UKIP candidate in the North was saying UKIP's aims were are so much at odds with what they were saying in the South to try & gain Conservative voters. Al at the moment UKIP has used the EU as a way to get Eurosceptic Tory voters to vote or join them will those voters stick with UKIP if it's true your a socialist group? I for one will never vote for the policies you spout in this paper yet I've received many letters & a copy of UKIP's manifesto which seems to be severely at odds with some of the things you have been saying is UKIP policy so who's right you or the official UKIP manifesto? Oh! before he was usurped the leader of Southampton's branch of UKIP asked me if I'd like to stand for UKIP? Please go on TV spout your left wing ideology & say it's the UKIP official line & then let's see how many voters return to the Tory fold loosehead
  • Score: 2

6:33pm Sun 23 Feb 14

hantslass says...

i see lots of police around including unmarked cars,so no shortage there then ,but problem we've got, is they spend far to much time stopping motorist mostly unecessary as for these kids parents, stop their cigarettes and beer money and make them more responsible for their kids instead of thinking of themselves
i see lots of police around including unmarked cars,so no shortage there then ,but problem we've got, is they spend far to much time stopping motorist mostly unecessary as for these kids parents, stop their cigarettes and beer money and make them more responsible for their kids instead of thinking of themselves hantslass
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.
I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people.
I'm not going to disagree with your views on UKIP or their stand against the excesses of the EU. It's quite refreshing to see a party that's in touch with popular views and trying to represent them instead of trying to tell their voters what they should think. Compare this with poor old Southy who hangs on every word that is written in the Tusc socialist manifesto and is crushingly disappointed at every election because no-one will vote for this unpopular view even though they tell the electorate that Tusc is the one true party for the nation. Back in the eighties the Labour Party had to curb its more extreme left wing excess as it became unelectable. Under Tony Blair it saw a new dawn as he moved more to the popular centre ground. UKIP are just giving the people what they want.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]I never fail to smile at the way the various left wing groups can be surgically sliced to distance themselves from any embarrassing excesses that appear, yet everything from the Conservatives to the BNP are heaped together as members of the same church.[/p][/quote]I am so pleased that at last someone has woken up to the fact that this UKIP supporter has socialist ideals, and believes that governments and local authorities should be looking after the ALL people they are supposed to represent.. I bet a later post from you will call UKIP extreme right wing, this of course is not true, we merely want to represent the people.[/p][/quote]I'm not going to disagree with your views on UKIP or their stand against the excesses of the EU. It's quite refreshing to see a party that's in touch with popular views and trying to represent them instead of trying to tell their voters what they should think. Compare this with poor old Southy who hangs on every word that is written in the Tusc socialist manifesto and is crushingly disappointed at every election because no-one will vote for this unpopular view even though they tell the electorate that Tusc is the one true party for the nation. Back in the eighties the Labour Party had to curb its more extreme left wing excess as it became unelectable. Under Tony Blair it saw a new dawn as he moved more to the popular centre ground. UKIP are just giving the people what they want. Torchie1
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6:49pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Shoong says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong. Shoong
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8:39pm Sun 23 Feb 14

hantslass says...

sirruler wrote:
southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat.
you are joking southampton has a lot of police ,but on the lazy side seems to turn a blind eye to what is going on . about time we got the great old bobby back not spineless officers looking for a good pension. i have seen first hand how rubbish a lot of them are, i suppose like a lot of people they are afraid, i suppose after all they are HUMAN
[quote][p][bold]sirruler[/bold] wrote: southampton has a seriously small police force, its like one officer for every 20,000 people. employ more officers and get them on the beat.[/p][/quote]you are joking southampton has a lot of police ,but on the lazy side seems to turn a blind eye to what is going on . about time we got the great old bobby back not spineless officers looking for a good pension. [ sorry to the few genuine ones who do their job properly] i have seen first hand how rubbish a lot of them are, i suppose like a lot of people they are afraid, i suppose after all they are HUMAN hantslass
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10:18am Mon 24 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Loveyourcity wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway.
We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.
Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up.
Oh dear, mentally or physically?
Either way must be frustrating for you..
[quote][p][bold]Loveyourcity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: This is when you need the 'Guardian Angels' like they had on the New York subway. We don't have the Police resources to do the job anymore, the PCSO's don't really carry much clout so we need something else or you will end up having vigilantes.[/p][/quote]Maybe if more people would volunteer as a Special Constable? Sadly I'm not deemed fit enough otherwise I'd love to join up.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, mentally or physically? Either way must be frustrating for you.. Ronnie G
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3:02pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Shoong wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.
Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.[/p][/quote]Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling. Inform Al
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3:57pm Mon 24 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.
Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling.
no it's just your way of trying to be funny what should we call you? Alan Feeble?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.[/p][/quote]Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling.[/p][/quote]no it's just your way of trying to be funny what should we call you? Alan Feeble? loosehead
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4:07pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh"
Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.
corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.
please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves
I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..
That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.
Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling.
no it's just your way of trying to be funny what should we call you? Alan Feeble?
Like you're humour you mean?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "unless its the private bankrupt bankers ,then its bailout time with the hands out for that non society dosh" Not that it's anything to do with dross targeting buses but I'm interested that you prefer a run on the banks and savers to lose all. Accepting that you may not have a pot to dodee in you must surely have a nan or a dad who had a couple of quid saved in Lloyds or Northern Rock. Go and tell them how cross you are that they were enabled to keep it.[/p][/quote]corporate welfare stinks , where was society when all the obscene profits were made ,did society get any assuming these big corporations pay no tax at all ,i do hear there is 25 TRILLION stashed in the virgin islands though.[/p][/quote]please take a look at North Korea a so called Socialist state where the ruling elite have it all yet the workers are lucky if they can feed themselves[/p][/quote]I wouldn't call N.Korea a socialist state, it is in fact a Stalinist style communist state. As such the working class there are treated even worse than our working class under C'moron, hard to believe isn't it..[/p][/quote]That's funny I didn't know you could be sent to a gulag for life for spelling a high ranking officials name wrong.[/p][/quote]Which is why I said we are not treated as bad as the N.Koreans. And as far as I'm concerned C'moron is an accurate descriptive spelling.[/p][/quote]no it's just your way of trying to be funny what should we call you? Alan Feeble?[/p][/quote]Like you're humour you mean? Inform Al
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