NHS data sharing bid on hold after Southampton residents raise concerns

Daily Echo: Southampton residents stop national database for medical records Southampton residents stop national database for medical records

A CONTROVERSIAL scheme to create a national database for NHS medical records has been put on hold after concerns were raised by Southampton residents and health campaigners.

Healthwatch Southampton played a vital role in getting NHS England to delay the Care.data programme by six months – which will see medical records of the public transferred to a central system.

They highlighted concerns over the lack of a known deadline by which people have time to opt in or out of the programme and felt that without one, people may miss their chance to opt out.

The group also expressed concerns that those who do opt out, are not given any acknowledgement that they had done so, which could leave many in doubt over whether or not their data has been transferred.

The Care.data scheme has already faced strong criticism from privacy campaigners who have raised fears about who will have access to confidential data and whether or not it can fall into the hands of private companies.

But some senior doctors and health executives including Lord Darzi, one of the world’s most celebrated surgeons, and Lord Crisp, the former chief executive of the NHS, said the database could lead to medical advances and improvements in patient care.

Now, after Healthwatch Southampton raised its concerns, along with other Healthwatch groups across the UK, the scheme has been delayed to address the issues.

Rob Kurn, Healthwatch Southampton manager, said: “By working together local Healthwatches and Healthwatch England have demonstrated that we can give the public a voice and influences decision at the highest level.

“We are pleased at the result of this work, which we hope will see this scheme communicated far more clearly and give the public a further six months to fully understand the issues and decide whether to opt in or out.”

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11:14am Sun 9 Mar 14

KSO16R says...

The information leaflet outlining this scheme dropped tthrough my letterbox tucked inside a piza takeaway leaflet. I only saw it by chance as i was binning junk mail. Icontacted my GP surgery for info about opting out and apart from not having a clue about opting out of the scheme they seemed surprised that i knew anything about it.
The information leaflet outlining this scheme dropped tthrough my letterbox tucked inside a piza takeaway leaflet. I only saw it by chance as i was binning junk mail. Icontacted my GP surgery for info about opting out and apart from not having a clue about opting out of the scheme they seemed surprised that i knew anything about it. KSO16R
  • Score: 9

11:48am Sun 9 Mar 14

Bagamn says...

Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.
Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother. Bagamn
  • Score: 8

11:55am Sun 9 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient.
The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 13

11:59am Sun 9 Mar 14

southy says...

I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also southy
  • Score: -3

12:16pm Sun 9 Mar 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

Merely a stay of execution I fear
Merely a stay of execution I fear There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 11

12:24pm Sun 9 Mar 14

southy says...

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire wrote:
Merely a stay of execution I fear
You are more likely be right there if it do come about and at the next election Labour will be in control of Government, Labour will not change things back to how it was no Right Wing party will do they will keep heading in the same direction more and more to the right under corporations control and it all comes down to who and which party sends members to the Bilderberg meetings or other secret organisation its at these meetings where political partys are being told what to do and how to do it and they do not want the people to know what is going on thats why no form of press is allowed into theses meetings to be able to report what is going on.
[quote][p][bold]There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire[/bold] wrote: Merely a stay of execution I fear[/p][/quote]You are more likely be right there if it do come about and at the next election Labour will be in control of Government, Labour will not change things back to how it was no Right Wing party will do they will keep heading in the same direction more and more to the right under corporations control and it all comes down to who and which party sends members to the Bilderberg meetings or other secret organisation its at these meetings where political partys are being told what to do and how to do it and they do not want the people to know what is going on thats why no form of press is allowed into theses meetings to be able to report what is going on. southy
  • Score: -4

12:36pm Sun 9 Mar 14

KSO16R says...

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire wrote:
Merely a stay of execution I fear
You can opt out.
[quote][p][bold]There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire[/bold] wrote: Merely a stay of execution I fear[/p][/quote]You can opt out. KSO16R
  • Score: 6

3:12pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not. Inform Al
  • Score: 5

3:48pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Quizbook says...

Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
Although I am not a supporter of TUSC, at least they give people a chance to vote for something other than the Lab/Con double act.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]Although I am not a supporter of TUSC, at least they give people a chance to vote for something other than the Lab/Con double act. Quizbook
  • Score: 0

3:56pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

Quizbook wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
Although I am not a supporter of TUSC, at least they give people a chance to vote for something other than the Lab/Con double act.
Yes, but most thinking people will vote UKIP next time.
[quote][p][bold]Quizbook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]Although I am not a supporter of TUSC, at least they give people a chance to vote for something other than the Lab/Con double act.[/p][/quote]Yes, but most thinking people will vote UKIP next time. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 5

4:29pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.
With Atos involved you could well be right.
[quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.[/p][/quote]With Atos involved you could well be right. Inform Al
  • Score: 5

4:41pm Sun 9 Mar 14

nelson1 says...

Healthwatch Southampton had little (if anything) to do with the postponement of this decision. 38 degrees established a petition with more than 150,000 signatures and many other far more inclusive lobby groups raised their voices. It is hoped that the decision will be an 'opt in' rather than an 'opt out' once finalised. For Healthwatch Southampton to claim any responsibility is disingenuous at the least and fraudulent at best.
Healthwatch Southampton had little (if anything) to do with the postponement of this decision. 38 degrees established a petition with more than 150,000 signatures and many other far more inclusive lobby groups raised their voices. It is hoped that the decision will be an 'opt in' rather than an 'opt out' once finalised. For Healthwatch Southampton to claim any responsibility is disingenuous at the least and fraudulent at best. nelson1
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Sun 9 Mar 14

southy says...

Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.
Even UKIP will sell it also.

Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area,
And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election.
[quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.[/p][/quote]Even UKIP will sell it also. Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area, And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election. southy
  • Score: -3

4:55pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Shoong says...

Then why not just say when and where they won it..?

Can we have some more info please?
Then why not just say when and where they won it..? Can we have some more info please? Shoong
  • Score: 2

6:05pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Bagamn wrote:
Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.
How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did?
[quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.[/p][/quote]How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 2

6:05pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient.
Wrong. But why let facts get in the way of idiotic paranoid ill-informed ramblings, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient.[/p][/quote]Wrong. But why let facts get in the way of idiotic paranoid ill-informed ramblings, eh? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Sun 9 Mar 14

nelson1 says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
Bagamn wrote:
Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.
How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did?
I believe the last attempt at IT integration across the NHS cost £4 billion and was a complete dogs breakfast. How quickly we forget and how quickly we let NHS administrators and their specially selected partners, get away with complete rubbish - with no come-back!
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.[/p][/quote]How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did?[/p][/quote]I believe the last attempt at IT integration across the NHS cost £4 billion and was a complete dogs breakfast. How quickly we forget and how quickly we let NHS administrators and their specially selected partners, get away with complete rubbish - with no come-back! nelson1
  • Score: 2

9:05pm Sun 9 Mar 14

southy says...

nelson1 wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
Bagamn wrote:
Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.
How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did?
I believe the last attempt at IT integration across the NHS cost £4 billion and was a complete dogs breakfast. How quickly we forget and how quickly we let NHS administrators and their specially selected partners, get away with complete rubbish - with no come-back!
you need a party like the TUSC yo be government power then there would be come backs
[quote][p][bold]nelson1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: Why does our medical history have to be spread all over the world when it only applies to where we live. Who is interested if we have more corns on our feet than Winchester. Another waste of the Health Service money to some company. The last IT system was a complete flop and just couldn't be fixed. Save the funds and don't bother.[/p][/quote]How does your medical history only apply where you live? Do people in other cities have different illnesses or something? You do understand how this information is to be used, I take it, what with all the research you did?[/p][/quote]I believe the last attempt at IT integration across the NHS cost £4 billion and was a complete dogs breakfast. How quickly we forget and how quickly we let NHS administrators and their specially selected partners, get away with complete rubbish - with no come-back![/p][/quote]you need a party like the TUSC yo be government power then there would be come backs southy
  • Score: -1

10:02pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient.
Wrong. But why let facts get in the way of idiotic paranoid ill-informed ramblings, eh?
should,nt you be sitting in a cell fitting people up or do the in-tel community get paid double on a sunday.
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: The common purpose is to cherrypick the low risk patients by insurance companies when the NHS is fully privatised , just by coincidence the government deficit matches the NHS spend ,how convenient.[/p][/quote]Wrong. But why let facts get in the way of idiotic paranoid ill-informed ramblings, eh?[/p][/quote]should,nt you be sitting in a cell fitting people up or do the in-tel community get paid double on a sunday. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: -4

6:44am Mon 10 Mar 14

skeptik says...

Prediction - maybe ten years maybe a tad more, big business, insurance companies and the like will have access to information. Look at data protection promises of twenty years ago and look at what business and public services hold now. Will these companies need staff to answer my request for insurance, or will a data base have my history, my tax and income details and ask the questions - it already knows - sorry your medical record precludes you from.......... Wry smile when I read folk saying 'get a job' - many now saying that will be replaced. When I started in engineering companies the midlands had row upon row of machinery in factories, now done on a few machining centres - time marches on - so will information technology and it's place in the working lives of many more. Happily retired.
Prediction - maybe ten years maybe a tad more, big business, insurance companies and the like will have access to information. Look at data protection promises of twenty years ago and look at what business and public services hold now. Will these companies need staff to answer my request for insurance, or will a data base have my history, my tax and income details and ask the questions - it already knows - sorry your medical record precludes you from.......... Wry smile when I read folk saying 'get a job' - many now saying that will be replaced. When I started in engineering companies the midlands had row upon row of machinery in factories, now done on a few machining centres - time marches on - so will information technology and it's place in the working lives of many more. Happily retired. skeptik
  • Score: 0

7:37am Mon 10 Mar 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

nelson1 wrote:
Healthwatch Southampton had little (if anything) to do with the postponement of this decision. 38 degrees established a petition with more than 150,000 signatures and many other far more inclusive lobby groups raised their voices. It is hoped that the decision will be an 'opt in' rather than an 'opt out' once finalised. For Healthwatch Southampton to claim any responsibility is disingenuous at the least and fraudulent at best.
Speaking as someone on the inside, as it were, the delay to implementation was ultimately down to the compelling and persuasive arguments put forward by Healthwatch England (using evidence supplied by a number of local Healthwatch organisations like Southampton's) which - together with concerns voiced by the various royal colleges - put pressure on the Department of Health to delay implementation.

Sure organisations like the excellent 38 degrees played an important part too in highlighting this issue and this helped generate a political and media climate to enable the power- that-be hold off on implementation.

One way in which vigilance on this issue can be maintained is if people got involved in their local Healthwatch and so keep up the pressure on the local and national care systems.
[quote][p][bold]nelson1[/bold] wrote: Healthwatch Southampton had little (if anything) to do with the postponement of this decision. 38 degrees established a petition with more than 150,000 signatures and many other far more inclusive lobby groups raised their voices. It is hoped that the decision will be an 'opt in' rather than an 'opt out' once finalised. For Healthwatch Southampton to claim any responsibility is disingenuous at the least and fraudulent at best.[/p][/quote]Speaking as someone on the inside, as it were, the delay to implementation was ultimately down to the compelling and persuasive arguments put forward by Healthwatch England (using evidence supplied by a number of local Healthwatch organisations like Southampton's) which - together with concerns voiced by the various royal colleges - put pressure on the Department of Health to delay implementation. Sure organisations like the excellent 38 degrees played an important part too in highlighting this issue and this helped generate a political and media climate to enable the power- that-be hold off on implementation. One way in which vigilance on this issue can be maintained is if people got involved in their local Healthwatch and so keep up the pressure on the local and national care systems. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 2

8:36am Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Do any of you morons realise the entire thalidomide fiasco would have been avoided by this scheme?
Do any of you morons realise the entire thalidomide fiasco would have been avoided by this scheme? gilbertratchet
  • Score: 2

9:08am Mon 10 Mar 14

WotMeWorry says...

Let me pose a scenario.
For some reason you get taken into a hospital, unconcious, in some other part of the country. You are given a drug that, if you had been concious, you would have mentioned that you were allergic to (and you don't feel inclined to wear a medical bracelet advising anyone of ths). You become seriously ill, potentially die. If the doctor had had access to your medical notes they would have known and acted accordingly.
Let me pose a scenario. For some reason you get taken into a hospital, unconcious, in some other part of the country. You are given a drug that, if you had been concious, you would have mentioned that you were allergic to (and you don't feel inclined to wear a medical bracelet advising anyone of ths). You become seriously ill, potentially die. If the doctor had had access to your medical notes they would have known and acted accordingly. WotMeWorry
  • Score: 0

12:19pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.
Even UKIP will sell it also.

Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area,
And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election.
The undeniable fact is that the governments climb down was due exclusively to the on line collection of signatures obtained by 38 degrees. The fact that the originator of 38 degrees may be a socialist is immaterial, the organisaation is non political. I too subscribe to 38 degrees and also consider myself socialist, which as a UKIP member seems to confuse those of you on the communist end of the scale. The only election that I am aware of TUSC winning is Bitterne Park last time around, for the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.[/p][/quote]Even UKIP will sell it also. Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area, And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election.[/p][/quote]The undeniable fact is that the governments climb down was due exclusively to the on line collection of signatures obtained by 38 degrees. The fact that the originator of 38 degrees may be a socialist is immaterial, the organisaation is non political. I too subscribe to 38 degrees and also consider myself socialist, which as a UKIP member seems to confuse those of you on the communist end of the scale. The only election that I am aware of TUSC winning is Bitterne Park last time around, for the Tories. Inform Al
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12:41pm Mon 10 Mar 14

nelson1 says...

Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
southy wrote:
I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also
Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.
opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.
Even UKIP will sell it also.

Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area,
And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election.
The undeniable fact is that the governments climb down was due exclusively to the on line collection of signatures obtained by 38 degrees. The fact that the originator of 38 degrees may be a socialist is immaterial, the organisaation is non political. I too subscribe to 38 degrees and also consider myself socialist, which as a UKIP member seems to confuse those of you on the communist end of the scale. The only election that I am aware of TUSC winning is Bitterne Park last time around, for the Tories.
I am not a socialist, but I signed the 38 degrees petition which was handed into Downing Street. This initiative together with enormous pressure lobbying from GP organisations and the GMC were the main reasons for the coalition initiating a rethink on the issue. The misguided social quango that is Healthwatch Southampton were and will remain completely irrelevant in forming opinion on NHS issues (no one knows they exist or are active). The mere fact that they claim influence in this and many other issues, (just how many individuals gave their views to Healthwatch Southampton? - in anticipation of a strangled response please quote the number who responded to your survey), just illustrates how useless they are.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I see the Echo refusing to acknowledge the work the Socialist Party have been doing to make people aware of this, which many did not know what is going on or what it is about and many still don't know what is going on. Also its not just about Hampshire its the whole of the UK. at the top we have that French Company ATOS and a disgrace Banker who will have control of whole of the UK medical records and not just NHS but private medical records also[/p][/quote]Most of the work informing us of the need to opt out has been done by a non political group called 38 degrees. Most of us will not have heard of your little TUSC idiocracy, so the Echo is correct to ignore your existance, just as most of us do at elections. Unfortunately just over 100 idiots voted TUSC in one ward last time enabling the Tories to beat the Labour candidate by 67 votes. Well done, not.[/p][/quote]opt out or opt in ,your details and history will be sold , bank on it.[/p][/quote]Even UKIP will sell it also. Just to inform you Al, the person behind 38% is a Socialist, but 38% is ignored because it do not keep to national it deals with international and people signing any petition on 38% there is no telling where they really are in the world, where as petitions done on the street the people who sign them are more likely to be local to that area, And just to inform a little bit more about TUSC they just won another election.[/p][/quote]The undeniable fact is that the governments climb down was due exclusively to the on line collection of signatures obtained by 38 degrees. The fact that the originator of 38 degrees may be a socialist is immaterial, the organisaation is non political. I too subscribe to 38 degrees and also consider myself socialist, which as a UKIP member seems to confuse those of you on the communist end of the scale. The only election that I am aware of TUSC winning is Bitterne Park last time around, for the Tories.[/p][/quote]I am not a socialist, but I signed the 38 degrees petition which was handed into Downing Street. This initiative together with enormous pressure lobbying from GP organisations and the GMC were the main reasons for the coalition initiating a rethink on the issue. The misguided social quango that is Healthwatch Southampton were and will remain completely irrelevant in forming opinion on NHS issues (no one knows they exist or are active). The mere fact that they claim influence in this and many other issues, (just how many individuals gave their views to Healthwatch Southampton? - in anticipation of a strangled response please quote the number who responded to your survey), just illustrates how useless they are. nelson1
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