Drivers urged to stay away from Southampton city centre as Oriana and Oceana dock

Daily Echo: Oriana docked in Southampton. Oriana docked in Southampton.

MOTORISTS are being warned to steer clear of the city centre later this week in a bid to prevent Southampton grinding to a halt again.

The city was besieged with the worst traffic chaos it had ever seen earlier this year with people trapped in their cars for hours due to continuing roadworks and the arrival of five cruise ships in dock.

But city bosses hope to avoid such mayhem on the roads this Thursday when two large cruise ships – Oceana and Oriana – dock in Southampton, bringing thousands of passengers heading to and from Dock Gate 4, through the ongoing roadworks on Platform Road.

A raft of measures are being brought into action in a bid to keep traffic flowing, including an appeal to drivers who do not need to be in the area to avoid coming in from the M271 during the busiest times – 11am to 2pm.

Other steps include the suspension of works at Town Quay eastbound, allowing the road to be reopened for the day only to create additional capacity on the roads.

It will be closed again on Thursday evening to allow resurfacing to be completed the following week.

The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

The junction at the entrance to Dock Gate 4 has been widened for better traffic flow.

The reason for the roadworks is to improve access to the Eastern Docks, with the hope of significantly reducing journey times and congestion when cruise ships are in the city.

Transport bosses say the work will also support the continued growth of the cruise and port business which will provide nearly 500 new job opportunities.

Councillor Jacqui Rayment, Southampton City Council’s Cabinet member for environment and transport, said: “We are spending over £20m on improving roads in this area – the highest level of investment in the city’s roads for over a decade.

“This will lead to significant benefits for residents, businesses and visitors to the city but making such changes is going to cause some disruption.

“We regret that some of our residents, visitors and businesses may be inconvenienced but we are doing everything in our power to alleviate the worst of the congestion and to ensure people have access to the latest travel information.”

Expected peak times for cruise traffic are between 8.15am and 10am for disembarkation and 11.30am and 2pm for embarkation but Associated British Ports has vowed to deploy extra staff at security checkpoints to speed access to the docks.

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8:53am Mon 10 Mar 14

eurogordi says...

I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?
I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks? eurogordi
  • Score: 46

8:54am Mon 10 Mar 14

hulla baloo says...

Just shows the low level this city, and their planners have come down to.
Build all these warehouse size shops in a restricted area, with limited access, knowing the docks are there, and then tell motorists to keep away.
Idiots the lot of them.
Just shows the low level this city, and their planners have come down to. Build all these warehouse size shops in a restricted area, with limited access, knowing the docks are there, and then tell motorists to keep away. Idiots the lot of them. hulla baloo
  • Score: 51

9:05am Mon 10 Mar 14

townieboy says...

This building site is a joke. Drove past there during the weekend no one was there. Why arnt they working 24/7 to get this work done ? One of the main routes through th city. Asking people not to drive home to avoid conjestion is complete nonsense. Come on council pay the rates and get the job finished.
This building site is a joke. Drove past there during the weekend no one was there. Why arnt they working 24/7 to get this work done ? One of the main routes through th city. Asking people not to drive home to avoid conjestion is complete nonsense. Come on council pay the rates and get the job finished. townieboy
  • Score: 26

9:13am Mon 10 Mar 14

sotonbusdriver says...

The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier. sotonbusdriver
  • Score: -8

9:25am Mon 10 Mar 14

hulla baloo says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
They will take notice when the yellow boxes are used to generate income.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]They will take notice when the yellow boxes are used to generate income. hulla baloo
  • Score: 1

10:12am Mon 10 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
And what happens when someone gets fed up waiting in the dock lane and tries to nip round in the other lane and cut back in, bound to happen.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]And what happens when someone gets fed up waiting in the dock lane and tries to nip round in the other lane and cut back in, bound to happen. bigfella777
  • Score: 0

10:14am Mon 10 Mar 14

philiprhampton says...

Yellow boxes Mmmmmmm all they do is encourage drivers to turn into oncoming traffic.., they are and always have been a lousy idea.
Yellow boxes Mmmmmmm all they do is encourage drivers to turn into oncoming traffic.., they are and always have been a lousy idea. philiprhampton
  • Score: -6

10:23am Mon 10 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

very poor situation.
very poor situation. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 3

10:25am Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -6

10:25am Mon 10 Mar 14

apm1954 says...

no- why dont they dock at night
no- why dont they dock at night apm1954
  • Score: -8

10:41am Mon 10 Mar 14

kiddynamite says...

What a way to solve a problem! Southampton City council you are a joke! The cruise ships will soon get fed up with this and dock elsewhere. Sad really that because our useless council can not control anything our this city will lose all the revenue form the cruise ships. And itll be your own fault SSC, you bunch of salads!
What a way to solve a problem! Southampton City council you are a joke! The cruise ships will soon get fed up with this and dock elsewhere. Sad really that because our useless council can not control anything our this city will lose all the revenue form the cruise ships. And itll be your own fault SSC, you bunch of salads! kiddynamite
  • Score: 11

10:58am Mon 10 Mar 14

hulla baloo says...

apm1954 wrote:
no- why dont they dock at night
Why should they? The cruise ship operators are not at fault here.
Following on your logic, maybe the shops should only open on alternate days, also have some open at nights only.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: no- why dont they dock at night[/p][/quote]Why should they? The cruise ship operators are not at fault here. Following on your logic, maybe the shops should only open on alternate days, also have some open at nights only. hulla baloo
  • Score: 8

10:59am Mon 10 Mar 14

Maine Lobster says...

apm1954 wrote:
no- why dont they dock at night
They often dock very early in the morning, but that is not the issue. The congestion is about when the passengers disembark and then the next lot get on, which is from mid morning until mid afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: no- why dont they dock at night[/p][/quote]They often dock very early in the morning, but that is not the issue. The congestion is about when the passengers disembark and then the next lot get on, which is from mid morning until mid afternoon. Maine Lobster
  • Score: 3

11:15am Mon 10 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

eurogordi wrote:
I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?
The council's imcompetent - no question about that.

But you ask why should legitimate road users stay away? To avoid being stuck in traffic for hours due to the mess caused by road works.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?[/p][/quote]The council's imcompetent - no question about that. But you ask why should legitimate road users stay away? To avoid being stuck in traffic for hours due to the mess caused by road works. S!monOn
  • Score: 10

11:16am Mon 10 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

eurogordi wrote:
I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?
It's not a ban, it is a note of caution, is your journey necessary? If it is then go by all means, but expect some inconvenience, not rocket science. People moan when nothing is done, now efforts are being made to alleviate the problem the typical selfish motorist attitude kicks in and they moan about the measures.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?[/p][/quote]It's not a ban, it is a note of caution, is your journey necessary? If it is then go by all means, but expect some inconvenience, not rocket science. People moan when nothing is done, now efforts are being made to alleviate the problem the typical selfish motorist attitude kicks in and they moan about the measures. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:20am Mon 10 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:21am Mon 10 Mar 14

BeyondImagination says...

In fairness, the council are doing something about the congestion and the road works are making things worse. Wait to sre what happens when they are finished before criticising them.
In fairness, the council are doing something about the congestion and the road works are making things worse. Wait to sre what happens when they are finished before criticising them. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 6

11:22am Mon 10 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.
gov.uk/59-82-rules-f
or-cyclists
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:29am Mon 10 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.

gov.uk/59-82-rules-f

or-cyclists
Don't feed the nerd, it will never end.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Don't feed the nerd, it will never end. bigfella777
  • Score: -10

11:45am Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.

gov.uk/59-82-rules-f

or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -8

11:53am Mon 10 Mar 14

loosehead says...

I'd love to blame the council but I can't.
If your coming from the Itchen side of the city & the Echo alerts you to two cruise ships in Port then why not head over the Northam bridge rather than take a gamble & go over the Itchen Bridge?
I know you can get to the Northam Bridge quite easily from that side of the city so this rubbish about cruise ships only at night & we pay for the roads why should we avoid that part of town shows the real problem in that part of town.It's bl++dy minded people!
from the Royal Pier to the Park thin road you had two lanes (one way) on either side of the park then a bottle neck down by the old docks then up to the Itchen Bridge.
now unless you knock down South western House & all the buildings on either side of the road you can't widen that road can you?
make it one way for all non dock related traffic up to dock gate 4 then to go to the Itchen Bridge you go over Central bridge coming from the bridge you go down the normal route so having two lanes of traffic either way or is this to complicated? or you all go to the Northam Bridge when Ships dock in Dock gate 4.
OH! usually in the Echo they have dock movements so it doesn't take a genius to work out when to avoid dock gate 4 does it?
I'd love to blame the council but I can't. If your coming from the Itchen side of the city & the Echo alerts you to two cruise ships in Port then why not head over the Northam bridge rather than take a gamble & go over the Itchen Bridge? I know you can get to the Northam Bridge quite easily from that side of the city so this rubbish about cruise ships only at night & we pay for the roads why should we avoid that part of town shows the real problem in that part of town.It's bl++dy minded people! from the Royal Pier to the Park thin road you had two lanes (one way) on either side of the park then a bottle neck down by the old docks then up to the Itchen Bridge. now unless you knock down South western House & all the buildings on either side of the road you can't widen that road can you? make it one way for all non dock related traffic up to dock gate 4 then to go to the Itchen Bridge you go over Central bridge coming from the bridge you go down the normal route so having two lanes of traffic either way or is this to complicated? or you all go to the Northam Bridge when Ships dock in Dock gate 4. OH! usually in the Echo they have dock movements so it doesn't take a genius to work out when to avoid dock gate 4 does it? loosehead
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Mon 10 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.


gov.uk/59-82-rules-f


or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:15pm Mon 10 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.


gov.uk/59-82-rules-f


or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
That's because you are a nerd. I Dont call yelling at senior citizens in the street well behaved.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]That's because you are a nerd. I Dont call yelling at senior citizens in the street well behaved. bigfella777
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.



gov.uk/59-82-rules-f



or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?
It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?[/p][/quote]It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

12:21pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.



gov.uk/59-82-rules-f



or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
That's because you are a nerd. I Dont call yelling at senior citizens in the street well behaved.
Can you blame me? He almost hit me with a car and tried blaming me for his tw@tish driving but I didn't swear at him or anything, in the past I would have, so yeah, I was well behaved as I was trying to explain the concept of riding away from parked cars to avoid the potential of being doored.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]That's because you are a nerd. I Dont call yelling at senior citizens in the street well behaved.[/p][/quote]Can you blame me? He almost hit me with a car and tried blaming me for his tw@tish driving but I didn't swear at him or anything, in the past I would have, so yeah, I was well behaved as I was trying to explain the concept of riding away from parked cars to avoid the potential of being doored. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -4

12:39pm Mon 10 Mar 14

good-gosh says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.




gov.uk/59-82-rules-f




or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?
It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving.
Its grey cell deficiency syndrome – hereditary I think so it incurable. Endemic around here so always expect the worst and keep clear of everyone, always – simples.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?[/p][/quote]It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving.[/p][/quote]Its grey cell deficiency syndrome – hereditary I think so it incurable. Endemic around here so always expect the worst and keep clear of everyone, always – simples. good-gosh
  • Score: -7

12:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it. 03alpe01
  • Score: 7

12:51pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

good-gosh wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?
I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.
Just to help http://www.nidirect.





gov.uk/59-82-rules-f





or-cyclists
Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.
Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?
It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving.
Its grey cell deficiency syndrome – hereditary I think so it incurable. Endemic around here so always expect the worst and keep clear of everyone, always – simples.
lol Very true.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]I've even seen a police car enter a yellow box junction before their exit was clear, granted they were ble to avoid stopping but if they can't follow the law, what hope have they got of making others follow the law?[/p][/quote]I have seen cyclist do lots of stupid things, mostly because they haven't a clue! I bet most of them have never seen a Highway Code book, let alone read it.[/p][/quote]Just to help http://www.nidirect. gov.uk/59-82-rules-f or-cyclists[/p][/quote]Most including myself HAVE read the highway code, I've read it cover to cover myself and most cyclists, like myself, are well behaved.[/p][/quote]Good man, sadly you are in a minority, please encourage your fellow cyclists to obey the rules, they are there to protect them, sadly too many motorist are not aware of the rules either, it's not always the cyclists fault, safe travel needs sensible team work, it is odd, you can have nicest person in the World, but put them behind the wheel of a car and they become transformed into an evil entity in charge of a lethal weapon, can you explain why that is?[/p][/quote]It's the feeling of power and control, some people feel untouchable with all the safety equipment in cars and the fact that courts don't give harsh enough sentences to people that kill other people while driving if the other people weren't driving.[/p][/quote]Its grey cell deficiency syndrome – hereditary I think so it incurable. Endemic around here so always expect the worst and keep clear of everyone, always – simples.[/p][/quote]lol Very true. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -8

12:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Oh look, it's all about cyclists again somehow.
Oh look, it's all about cyclists again somehow. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 7

1:01pm Mon 10 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

03alpe01 wrote:
What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article? S!monOn
  • Score: -1

1:14pm Mon 10 Mar 14

speedicut says...

S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt
on.gov.uk/news-event
s/latest-news/City_c
entre_traffic_update
.aspx
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx speedicut
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Mon 10 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended.

Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO.
Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.
When your council places mobile CCTV spy cars at these box junctions and starts raking in £ 000's of pounds in punitive fines , the good people of Southampton will finally realise what is happening.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: The gyratory around Queens Park now has a designated right-hand lane for Dock Gate 4 traffic only and the left-hand lane is reserved for all other traffic, while yellow box road markings will be installed at the entrance to the gyratory to deter traffic from blocking entry, as well as the yellow box hatching at the Canute Road junction has been refreshed and extended. Since when do Southampton car drivers pay any attention to yellow box markings... It is something so rare, that it is almost extinct like the DODO. Southampton drivers, think yellow boxes are just to make the road look prettier.[/p][/quote]When your council places mobile CCTV spy cars at these box junctions and starts raking in £ 000's of pounds in punitive fines , the good people of Southampton will finally realise what is happening. in search of the truth
  • Score: 0

2:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

manic75 says...

Seems easy to me then. I own a car, I have money. Southampton doesn't cater for my needs. I go elsewhere. Southampton's loss.

Yes I am just one person, so what I hear you say. Trust me, there are plenty of others who will do the same. If Southampton cannot attract me as a customer by making my life convenient, I'll go elsewhere - simples! Southampton also revised their parking charges to charge at night. Result - I no longer visit the restaurants in Oxford street. I also don't entertain business guests there - I go to Romsey or Winchester instead (which are far nicer and more scenic anyway).

Funny, I boycott Eastleigh too, as they make parking difficult. The hisgh street traders are the same lot who complain about ASDA impacting the high street. Fact is, ASDA makes my life easy and convenient, so I will continue to go there. Eastleigh town centre is doomed; appreciate its not the fault of the shop owners, but that doesn't matter. Point I am making is that town centre's are reliant on a local vibrant economy to survive. Chasing customers away by making our lives inconvenient will bite you in the ar$e in years to come.

Bye bye Southampton.
Seems easy to me then. I own a car, I have money. Southampton doesn't cater for my needs. I go elsewhere. Southampton's loss. Yes I am just one person, so what I hear you say. Trust me, there are plenty of others who will do the same. If Southampton cannot attract me as a customer by making my life convenient, I'll go elsewhere - simples! Southampton also revised their parking charges to charge at night. Result - I no longer visit the restaurants in Oxford street. I also don't entertain business guests there - I go to Romsey or Winchester instead (which are far nicer and more scenic anyway). Funny, I boycott Eastleigh too, as they make parking difficult. The hisgh street traders are the same lot who complain about ASDA impacting the high street. Fact is, ASDA makes my life easy and convenient, so I will continue to go there. Eastleigh town centre is doomed; appreciate its not the fault of the shop owners, but that doesn't matter. Point I am making is that town centre's are reliant on a local vibrant economy to survive. Chasing customers away by making our lives inconvenient will bite you in the ar$e in years to come. Bye bye Southampton. manic75
  • Score: 10

3:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

loosehead says...

There is another alternative route , go around the city & come in from the West if you need to get into town
There is another alternative route , go around the city & come in from the West if you need to get into town loosehead
  • Score: -3

4:04pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Bassett-Mikey says...

better still, move the ships to Portsmouth - let them have the bother!
better still, move the ships to Portsmouth - let them have the bother! Bassett-Mikey
  • Score: -5

4:09pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Lone Ranger. says...

manic75 wrote:
Seems easy to me then. I own a car, I have money. Southampton doesn't cater for my needs. I go elsewhere. Southampton's loss.

Yes I am just one person, so what I hear you say. Trust me, there are plenty of others who will do the same. If Southampton cannot attract me as a customer by making my life convenient, I'll go elsewhere - simples! Southampton also revised their parking charges to charge at night. Result - I no longer visit the restaurants in Oxford street. I also don't entertain business guests there - I go to Romsey or Winchester instead (which are far nicer and more scenic anyway).

Funny, I boycott Eastleigh too, as they make parking difficult. The hisgh street traders are the same lot who complain about ASDA impacting the high street. Fact is, ASDA makes my life easy and convenient, so I will continue to go there. Eastleigh town centre is doomed; appreciate its not the fault of the shop owners, but that doesn't matter. Point I am making is that town centre's are reliant on a local vibrant economy to survive. Chasing customers away by making our lives inconvenient will bite you in the ar$e in years to come.

Bye bye Southampton.
Exactly why has pre warning you of traffic issues made your life a pain in the arse ....... have you ever travelled outside of Southampton before ??
.
Would you have been on here moaning about being stuck in traffic.
.
Do you think that ANY council just caters for you and you alone.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Seems easy to me then. I own a car, I have money. Southampton doesn't cater for my needs. I go elsewhere. Southampton's loss. Yes I am just one person, so what I hear you say. Trust me, there are plenty of others who will do the same. If Southampton cannot attract me as a customer by making my life convenient, I'll go elsewhere - simples! Southampton also revised their parking charges to charge at night. Result - I no longer visit the restaurants in Oxford street. I also don't entertain business guests there - I go to Romsey or Winchester instead (which are far nicer and more scenic anyway). Funny, I boycott Eastleigh too, as they make parking difficult. The hisgh street traders are the same lot who complain about ASDA impacting the high street. Fact is, ASDA makes my life easy and convenient, so I will continue to go there. Eastleigh town centre is doomed; appreciate its not the fault of the shop owners, but that doesn't matter. Point I am making is that town centre's are reliant on a local vibrant economy to survive. Chasing customers away by making our lives inconvenient will bite you in the ar$e in years to come. Bye bye Southampton.[/p][/quote]Exactly why has pre warning you of traffic issues made your life a pain in the arse ....... have you ever travelled outside of Southampton before ?? . Would you have been on here moaning about being stuck in traffic. . Do you think that ANY council just caters for you and you alone. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

KSO16R says...

kiddynamite wrote:
What a way to solve a problem! Southampton City council you are a joke! The cruise ships will soon get fed up with this and dock elsewhere. Sad really that because our useless council can not control anything our this city will lose all the revenue form the cruise ships. And itll be your own fault SSC, you bunch of salads!
Thought you lived in whiteley
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: What a way to solve a problem! Southampton City council you are a joke! The cruise ships will soon get fed up with this and dock elsewhere. Sad really that because our useless council can not control anything our this city will lose all the revenue form the cruise ships. And itll be your own fault SSC, you bunch of salads![/p][/quote]Thought you lived in whiteley KSO16R
  • Score: -2

5:04pm Mon 10 Mar 14

KSO16R says...

loosehead wrote:
There is another alternative route , go around the city & come in from the West if you need to get into town
Agree with sentiment in both your posts.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: There is another alternative route , go around the city & come in from the West if you need to get into town[/p][/quote]Agree with sentiment in both your posts. KSO16R
  • Score: -2

6:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Well if I was Peel ports & I read some of these posts I'd be rubbing my hands with glee!
Night times only for cruise ships to load & unload passengers? 4 tides is the main reason those larger cruise ships came here from Liverpool restrict when & how many can come here & southampton has lost it's advantage.
We built the Itchen bridge to get traffic flowing easier from the Woolston side of the city.
The Floating bridge was great but not up to the task but now head over Northam bridge in the day time & it's very quite why?
they all head for the Itchen Bridge to save time on getting to the bottom of town & no one looks at what ships are due in port they just moan blame the ships, blame the council but take none of the blame for themselves when they're stuck in a traffic jam.
I'd love to blame every ill on this council but on this matter I can't.
Well if I was Peel ports & I read some of these posts I'd be rubbing my hands with glee! Night times only for cruise ships to load & unload passengers? 4 tides is the main reason those larger cruise ships came here from Liverpool restrict when & how many can come here & southampton has lost it's advantage. We built the Itchen bridge to get traffic flowing easier from the Woolston side of the city. The Floating bridge was great but not up to the task but now head over Northam bridge in the day time & it's very quite why? they all head for the Itchen Bridge to save time on getting to the bottom of town & no one looks at what ships are due in port they just moan blame the ships, blame the council but take none of the blame for themselves when they're stuck in a traffic jam. I'd love to blame every ill on this council but on this matter I can't. loosehead
  • Score: -4

6:30pm Mon 10 Mar 14

LucieLocket says...

Didn't we used to get free bus travel for the day if the stars aligned and the city was worried about gridlock? Also, what happened to the off site check in that the cruise companies used on those days?
Didn't we used to get free bus travel for the day if the stars aligned and the city was worried about gridlock? Also, what happened to the off site check in that the cruise companies used on those days? LucieLocket
  • Score: 0

7:14pm Mon 10 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt

on.gov.uk/news-event

s/latest-news/City_c

entre_traffic_update

.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
[quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves. 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Mon 10 Mar 14

panther14 says...

All the more reason to have a park and ride, why can't we have a couple on the outskirts of town. Every time I go away for the weekend I always use the park and ride in the city, it eases the traffic and reduces congestion
All the more reason to have a park and ride, why can't we have a couple on the outskirts of town. Every time I go away for the weekend I always use the park and ride in the city, it eases the traffic and reduces congestion panther14
  • Score: 0

8:27pm Mon 10 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator.

People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it.

No one's ever thought of that.
Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator. People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it. No one's ever thought of that. wwozzer
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

03alpe01 wrote:
speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt


on.gov.uk/news-event


s/latest-news/City_c


entre_traffic_update


.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port.
Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.[/p][/quote]You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port. Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports. If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton. in search of the truth
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

loosehead says...

wwozzer wrote:
Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator.

People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it.

No one's ever thought of that.
There's a great big building that's now flats with rail tracks which use to be a Hotel & then was taken over by the BBC & it's called South Western House.
Let's all get real this part of town was quiet even with the floating bridge then they built the Itchen Bridge still not to bad.
Then they built West Quay then traffic problems started as most people from Itchen didn't think it wise to use the Northam bridge or look at alternative routes into the city to reach West Quay?
So who do they blame? Themselves?NO
They blame the Cruise Ships who have since I was born happily filled the docks & hotels in our city bringing countless jobs to the city which at the moment is the biggest employer/ contributor of job making industries in this city so those who blame the Ships ought to look in the mirror!
Could the road works have been better organised to cause the least amount of trouble possible?> maybe I'm not a Civil Engineer & I wasn't part of the planning on those roadworks.
But here we have the Echo letting people know there are two ships in at dock gate 4 & people are coming out with ridiculous comments.
do these people think this city will survive if the docks shut?
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator. People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it. No one's ever thought of that.[/p][/quote]There's a great big building that's now flats with rail tracks which use to be a Hotel & then was taken over by the BBC & it's called South Western House. Let's all get real this part of town was quiet even with the floating bridge then they built the Itchen Bridge still not to bad. Then they built West Quay then traffic problems started as most people from Itchen didn't think it wise to use the Northam bridge or look at alternative routes into the city to reach West Quay? So who do they blame? Themselves?NO They blame the Cruise Ships who have since I was born happily filled the docks & hotels in our city bringing countless jobs to the city which at the moment is the biggest employer/ contributor of job making industries in this city so those who blame the Ships ought to look in the mirror! Could the road works have been better organised to cause the least amount of trouble possible?> maybe I'm not a Civil Engineer & I wasn't part of the planning on those roadworks. But here we have the Echo letting people know there are two ships in at dock gate 4 & people are coming out with ridiculous comments. do these people think this city will survive if the docks shut? loosehead
  • Score: -3

10:12pm Mon 10 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

loosehead wrote:
wwozzer wrote:
Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator.

People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it.

No one's ever thought of that.
There's a great big building that's now flats with rail tracks which use to be a Hotel & then was taken over by the BBC & it's called South Western House.
Let's all get real this part of town was quiet even with the floating bridge then they built the Itchen Bridge still not to bad.
Then they built West Quay then traffic problems started as most people from Itchen didn't think it wise to use the Northam bridge or look at alternative routes into the city to reach West Quay?
So who do they blame? Themselves?NO
They blame the Cruise Ships who have since I was born happily filled the docks & hotels in our city bringing countless jobs to the city which at the moment is the biggest employer/ contributor of job making industries in this city so those who blame the Ships ought to look in the mirror!
Could the road works have been better organised to cause the least amount of trouble possible?> maybe I'm not a Civil Engineer & I wasn't part of the planning on those roadworks.
But here we have the Echo letting people know there are two ships in at dock gate 4 & people are coming out with ridiculous comments.
do these people think this city will survive if the docks shut?
Yes, I was being ironic.

Regardless of what has caused the chaos a cure needs to be found. People want to go to west quay and spend money, people want to go on cruises. The easiest solution would be to open up the rail link again for the simple reason that it's still there just waiting to be used.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator. People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it. No one's ever thought of that.[/p][/quote]There's a great big building that's now flats with rail tracks which use to be a Hotel & then was taken over by the BBC & it's called South Western House. Let's all get real this part of town was quiet even with the floating bridge then they built the Itchen Bridge still not to bad. Then they built West Quay then traffic problems started as most people from Itchen didn't think it wise to use the Northam bridge or look at alternative routes into the city to reach West Quay? So who do they blame? Themselves?NO They blame the Cruise Ships who have since I was born happily filled the docks & hotels in our city bringing countless jobs to the city which at the moment is the biggest employer/ contributor of job making industries in this city so those who blame the Ships ought to look in the mirror! Could the road works have been better organised to cause the least amount of trouble possible?> maybe I'm not a Civil Engineer & I wasn't part of the planning on those roadworks. But here we have the Echo letting people know there are two ships in at dock gate 4 & people are coming out with ridiculous comments. do these people think this city will survive if the docks shut?[/p][/quote]Yes, I was being ironic. Regardless of what has caused the chaos a cure needs to be found. People want to go to west quay and spend money, people want to go on cruises. The easiest solution would be to open up the rail link again for the simple reason that it's still there just waiting to be used. wwozzer
  • Score: 1

10:24pm Mon 10 Mar 14

phil maccavity says...

wwozzer wrote:
Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator.

People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it.

No one's ever thought of that.
Actually there is a direct railway line into 2 of the ports 4 cruise terminals and Boat Trains still run,as far as I am aware, some from London and others from as far afield and Edinburgh and Leeds.
You often see train buffs at the crossing in Canute Road taking photos of the trains, which include the Orient Express
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator. People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it. No one's ever thought of that.[/p][/quote]Actually there is a direct railway line into 2 of the ports 4 cruise terminals and Boat Trains still run,as far as I am aware, some from London and others from as far afield and Edinburgh and Leeds. You often see train buffs at the crossing in Canute Road taking photos of the trains, which include the Orient Express phil maccavity
  • Score: 2

12:55am Tue 11 Mar 14

andoru says...

eurogordi wrote:
I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?
Tourists who go to Southampton to board cruises contribute to the local economy as well. This is a quote from a Daily Echo article of 25th June last year:

"It is estimated that more than 11,000 jobs across the South-East of England are supported by the port and each cruise ship turnaround is estimated to contribute around £2.5 million to the local economy."

Also, as others have stated, it's a word of warning, not a ban. You can drive if you want, just expect delays.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, but why should legitimate road users who support the local economy 24/7 be asked to stay away from the city just because the council authorities cannot seem to do anything about the poor road networks?[/p][/quote]Tourists who go to Southampton to board cruises contribute to the local economy as well. This is a quote from a Daily Echo article of 25th June last year: "It is estimated that more than 11,000 jobs across the South-East of England are supported by the port and each cruise ship turnaround is estimated to contribute around £2.5 million to the local economy." Also, as others have stated, it's a word of warning, not a ban. You can drive if you want, just expect delays. andoru
  • Score: 2

9:32am Tue 11 Mar 14

skeptik says...

Do we warn or request?
Do we warn or request? skeptik
  • Score: 0

11:51am Tue 11 Mar 14

BeyondImagination says...

phil maccavity wrote:
wwozzer wrote:
Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator.

People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it.

No one's ever thought of that.
Actually there is a direct railway line into 2 of the ports 4 cruise terminals and Boat Trains still run,as far as I am aware, some from London and others from as far afield and Edinburgh and Leeds.
You often see train buffs at the crossing in Canute Road taking photos of the trains, which include the Orient Express
Closing Canute Road for trains will really help traffic flow. All the council is saying , not particularly well, is until the road works are finished you will save yourselfa lot of hassle if you avoid the city centre when these big ships are in.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: Why don't they put in a railway line that goes right to the terminal, you could even have a great big hotel next to it named after the railway operator. People could come by train from all over the country direct to the ocean terminal and our roads wouldn't be clogged to the extent that the citizens of this city are asked to stay out of it. No one's ever thought of that.[/p][/quote]Actually there is a direct railway line into 2 of the ports 4 cruise terminals and Boat Trains still run,as far as I am aware, some from London and others from as far afield and Edinburgh and Leeds. You often see train buffs at the crossing in Canute Road taking photos of the trains, which include the Orient Express[/p][/quote]Closing Canute Road for trains will really help traffic flow. All the council is saying , not particularly well, is until the road works are finished you will save yourselfa lot of hassle if you avoid the city centre when these big ships are in. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

8:01pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Ronnie G says...

in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt



on.gov.uk/news-event



s/latest-news/City_c



entre_traffic_update



.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port.
Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.[/p][/quote]You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port. Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports. If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor Ronnie G
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Ronnie G wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt




on.gov.uk/news-event




s/latest-news/City_c




entre_traffic_update




.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port.
Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor
he's a scouser
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.[/p][/quote]You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port. Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports. If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor[/p][/quote]he's a scouser loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Ronnie G wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt




on.gov.uk/news-event




s/latest-news/City_c




entre_traffic_update




.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port.
Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor
he's a scouser
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.[/p][/quote]You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port. Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports. If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor[/p][/quote]he's a scouser loosehead
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

loosehead wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
speedicut wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
03alpe01 wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.
Did you even read the article?
No, he/she only read the headline.

Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here...

http://www.southampt





on.gov.uk/news-event





s/latest-news/City_c





entre_traffic_update





.aspx
Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read?

There are so many ways around this its unreal such as:

1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff

2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride

3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other

To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.
You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port.
Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor
he's a scouser
My word Loosehead you are indeed right, I am a scouser and I might add , a very very proud scouser.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedicut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: What an excellent way to attract visitors to your City. By telling them to stay away! Love it.[/p][/quote]Did you even read the article?[/p][/quote]No, he/she only read the headline. Actual council statement before the Echo filtered out any worthwhile meaning can be read here... http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/news-event s/latest-news/City_c entre_traffic_update .aspx[/p][/quote]Yes I did thankyou and who are you to tell me what I have and haven't read? There are so many ways around this its unreal such as: 1) For roadworks this major, then they should be worked on 24/7 using shift staff 2) The answer everyone is crying out for, but the Council won't listen to because it doesn't make them any money- a Park and Ride 3) Time City Centre roadworks so that they do not happen at the same time as each other To name 3. Or alternatively, just send the ships to Liverpool. Southampton City Council have bought this on themselves.[/p][/quote]You might not have any need to send the cruise ships to Liverpool or for that matter any other port. Passengers will just not bother to go through all the messing about of getting to Southampton and force the cruise lines to disperse cruises across the nations ports. If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Southampton City Nu Labour Councillor[/p][/quote]he's a scouser[/p][/quote]My word Loosehead you are indeed right, I am a scouser and I might add , a very very proud scouser. in search of the truth
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