Cruise passengers will be hit as taxi drivers face port charge

Perry McMillan

Perry McMillan

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TAXI drivers in Southampton will be forced to pay £1 to pick up passengers from the city’s cruise ships.

And the new levy, which will come into force next month, is set to cause fares to rise for thousands of cruise-goers.

Associated Brit-ish Ports (ABP), which has agreed the new charge, says it is needed to fund new marshals for the city’s four cruise terminals after a series of rows between cabbies at the ranks.

The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years.

But members of the taxi trade have hit back, criticising ABP for forcing them to foot the bill and warning it will be “unpopular” with passengers.

From April 1 taxi drivers will have to pay £1 to the marshal running the rank.

Today the city council’s Cabinet will debate amending the table of hackney fares to allow cabbies to recoup the charge from passengers.

ABP says the charge will go ahead regardless of the Cabinet’s decision to amend the table.

Speaking about the new charge, port director Nick Ridehalgh said: “A series of incidents between hackney carriage drivers at our terminals has underlined the need for the port to ensure a professional standard of service for our cruise passengers.

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“To that end, we have introduced marshals to manage taxi ranks on the port estate.

“Following lengthy consultation with the city council and drivers serving the cruise terminals, a small charge will be introduced on April 1.

“This is needed to support the on-site management required to deliver a high standard of service for our customers.”

A spokesman for the firm added that the £1 charge would only cover part of the cost of introducing the marshals.

Perry McMillan, chairman of the Southampton cab section of Unite, said: “I find it astonishing that a multi-million company like ABP is not prepared to pay for the marshals.

“The fact they are passing the buck to the taxi drivers and customers is penny-pinching and tacky.”

Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association, said: “In terms of the incidents between cabbies, they are making a mountain out of a molehill.

“Cruise passengers in Liverpool don’t have to pay £1 like this.”

Kevin Wright added: “I don’t understand it.

“Is this going to be monitored?

“And will we be given receipts when we pay the charge?

“With fuel costs, the £67 permit you have to buy to park at the docks and other costs, I won’t be able to afford to run a taxi there, so the customer is going to incur the cost.”

Not all taxi drivers are against it, with Ian Hall, chairman of the Southamp-ton Hackney Association saying: “We think it’s a brilliant idea.”

There is also confusion over whether ABP spoke to Carnival UK and P&O Cruises before deciding to bring in the charge.

ABP declined to comment while a spokesman for Carnival and P&O would only confirm that the firms are currently “discussing the issue with ABP”.

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11:41am Tue 18 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

"The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. "
If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"
"The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. " If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs" Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

12:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rip off Britain at its best, Rip off anyone else if it comes to that.
Rip off Britain at its best, Rip off anyone else if it comes to that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

12:41pm Tue 18 Mar 14

ecuk268 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. "
If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"
ABP is a private company.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. " If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"[/p][/quote]ABP is a private company. ecuk268
  • Score: 8

12:45pm Tue 18 Mar 14

sotonbusdriver says...

Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all.... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: 6

12:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

ecuk268 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. "
If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"
ABP is a private company.
Thanks. Didn't know. What is then to prevent the taxis discharging outside of the land owned by ABP and is it a subsidiary of a big company which might not like protests at its AGM?Since it's currently on land owned by the company why was there " lengthy consultation with the city council" Hope you know. It's all a bit confusing.
[quote][p][bold]ecuk268[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. " If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"[/p][/quote]ABP is a private company.[/p][/quote]Thanks. Didn't know. What is then to prevent the taxis discharging outside of the land owned by ABP and is it a subsidiary of a big company which might not like protests at its AGM?Since it's currently on land owned by the company why was there " lengthy consultation with the city council" Hope you know. It's all a bit confusing. Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

1:04pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
Maybe they'll use it to pay the £1 charge that the story is in fact about.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll use it to pay the £1 charge that the story is in fact about. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 5

1:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Dai Rear wrote:
ecuk268 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
"The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. "
If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"
ABP is a private company.
Thanks. Didn't know. What is then to prevent the taxis discharging outside of the land owned by ABP and is it a subsidiary of a big company which might not like protests at its AGM?Since it's currently on land owned by the company why was there " lengthy consultation with the city council" Hope you know. It's all a bit confusing.
This is about access to picking passengers up though, so they've not only got to let passengers know that they're there, some distance away from the rank, they've also got to persuade them that it's worth lugging all their baggage all that way on to a busy road, to save £1.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ecuk268[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo understands a number of arguments have broken out between cabbies over fares at cruise terminal ranks in recent years. " If they were breaches of the Public Order Act then it's a police job and if they weren't then it's de minimis. Either way, no need to create more useless public sector/quango "jobs"[/p][/quote]ABP is a private company.[/p][/quote]Thanks. Didn't know. What is then to prevent the taxis discharging outside of the land owned by ABP and is it a subsidiary of a big company which might not like protests at its AGM?Since it's currently on land owned by the company why was there " lengthy consultation with the city council" Hope you know. It's all a bit confusing.[/p][/quote]This is about access to picking passengers up though, so they've not only got to let passengers know that they're there, some distance away from the rank, they've also got to persuade them that it's worth lugging all their baggage all that way on to a busy road, to save £1. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 3

1:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

It's only a quid, I doubt any cruise passengers would even notice if the drivers get permission to add it to the fare, considering the alternative would be walking qtr of a mile with luggage to the dock gate I doubt they'd even care.
It's only a quid, I doubt any cruise passengers would even notice if the drivers get permission to add it to the fare, considering the alternative would be walking qtr of a mile with luggage to the dock gate I doubt they'd even care. wwozzer
  • Score: 3

1:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mr saint76 says...

What a non story, you go to other cities in the world and the customer pays an extra dollar, euro for taxis from the airport.Radio Taxis and the union which are the same person are just upset that they couldn't get their greedy hands on the control of the marshalls.They wanted to charge the taxi driver an extra £400. Don't they make enough already. So I say yes a million customers can be wrong.
What a non story, you go to other cities in the world and the customer pays an extra dollar, euro for taxis from the airport.Radio Taxis and the union which are the same person are just upset that they couldn't get their greedy hands on the control of the marshalls.They wanted to charge the taxi driver an extra £400. Don't they make enough already. So I say yes a million customers can be wrong. Mr saint76
  • Score: 4

1:21pm Tue 18 Mar 14

hackneyman says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
The ones you talk about are probably ex bus drivers fed up with acting like brain dead hamsters d in circles all day. The others are people that refused to be bullied by little men with little dicks, who think that just because they drive a big vehicle they can drive how they want.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....[/p][/quote]The ones you talk about are probably ex bus drivers fed up with acting like brain dead hamsters d in circles all day. The others are people that refused to be bullied by little men with little dicks, who think that just because they drive a big vehicle they can drive how they want. hackneyman
  • Score: 5

1:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

hackneyman says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
The ones you talk about are probably ex bus drivers fed up with acting like brain dead hamsters d in circles all day. The others are people that refused to be bullied by little men with little dicks, who think that just because they drive a big vehicle they can drive how they want.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....[/p][/quote]The ones you talk about are probably ex bus drivers fed up with acting like brain dead hamsters d in circles all day. The others are people that refused to be bullied by little men with little dicks, who think that just because they drive a big vehicle they can drive how they want. hackneyman
  • Score: 3

1:35pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mr E says...

£1 today but, how long before its £10 when ABP reailise they have people over a barrel
£1 today but, how long before its £10 when ABP reailise they have people over a barrel Mr E
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots?
Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots? bigfella777
  • Score: -1

2:05pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

The drivers should look at the situation at the airport, and be thankful the same thing hasn't happened at the cruise terminals.
The drivers should look at the situation at the airport, and be thankful the same thing hasn't happened at the cruise terminals. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 4

2:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

garlic says...

If the cabbies can't behave properly then of course they should be the ones to pay for the marshalls to police them.

Maybe the Council can take a leaf out of their book and start charging them for parking on double yellow lines, junctions, cycle lanes and general driving like a**holes.
If the cabbies can't behave properly then of course they should be the ones to pay for the marshalls to police them. Maybe the Council can take a leaf out of their book and start charging them for parking on double yellow lines, junctions, cycle lanes and general driving like a**holes. garlic
  • Score: 3

3:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Outside of the Box says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
A comprehension of the English language wouldn't go amiss either.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....[/p][/quote]A comprehension of the English language wouldn't go amiss either. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Maine Lobster says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots?
£1200 to run a taxi for a month? I doubt it, even if you include the fuel!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots?[/p][/quote]£1200 to run a taxi for a month? I doubt it, even if you include the fuel! Maine Lobster
  • Score: -2

3:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mr saint76 says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots?
£1200 to run a taxi for a month? I doubt it, even if you include the fuel!
Actually you're right it's probably more for the people who pay over 250 a week just for the rent then say 100 a week in fuel. So well done Mane you're spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Just pull the cabs out of the port, then ABP can explain to people why they have to lug 10 suitcases home. Maybe ABP could run there own cab service and fund the £1200 quid a month it costs to run one. If the Marshall's were not employed from agencies on an ad hoc basis they might know what they were doing, why should cabbies pay for a bunch of idiots?[/p][/quote]£1200 to run a taxi for a month? I doubt it, even if you include the fuel![/p][/quote]Actually you're right it's probably more for the people who pay over 250 a week just for the rent then say 100 a week in fuel. So well done Mane you're spot on. Mr saint76
  • Score: 0

3:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

dunque says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course.
As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....
Or maybe the £1 collected by the port can be used for reading lessons for bus drivers.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Maybe the £1 they will charge the cruise passengers they can put towards better driving skills course. As currently, most don't know where their indicators are, nor can comprehend the Highway Code at all....[/p][/quote]Or maybe the £1 collected by the port can be used for reading lessons for bus drivers. dunque
  • Score: 2

4:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

NotoNwo says...

" I think it's a brilliant idea" Ian Hall SH, the cruise passengers can phone a radio company who will not charge the pound booking fee. I had a taxi the other day and all the driver complained about was mini cabs taking their work, parking up on the streets like taxis etc he said he was a member of SHA so why are they on one hand complaining of losing work and on the other handing mini cabs the competitive edge over taxis. Glad I'm not in this ironically silly scenario, my friend who goes on cruises tips well but ask her for anything extra and that's your tip gone which would be £2/3.

Any cabby in his right mind would have refused to charge their passengers fora pound over the ccost of the journey.
" I think it's a brilliant idea" Ian Hall SH, the cruise passengers can phone a radio company who will not charge the pound booking fee. I had a taxi the other day and all the driver complained about was mini cabs taking their work, parking up on the streets like taxis etc he said he was a member of SHA so why are they on one hand complaining of losing work and on the other handing mini cabs the competitive edge over taxis. Glad I'm not in this ironically silly scenario, my friend who goes on cruises tips well but ask her for anything extra and that's your tip gone which would be £2/3. Any cabby in his right mind would have refused to charge their passengers fora pound over the ccost of the journey. NotoNwo
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mugsey2 says...

just walk out and jump on the free bus up to the station
just walk out and jump on the free bus up to the station Mugsey2
  • Score: 0

5:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

I guess if you are wealthy enough to afford a Cruise, it shouldn't be too much to spend an odd quid or two on transport from the Docks.
I guess if you are wealthy enough to afford a Cruise, it shouldn't be too much to spend an odd quid or two on transport from the Docks. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Keep_Soton_Tidy says...

This charge is only for the white Hackney cabs ranked up outside the arrivals halls, you can call a local radio private hire firm for free, without the extra £1 charge
This charge is only for the white Hackney cabs ranked up outside the arrivals halls, you can call a local radio private hire firm for free, without the extra £1 charge Keep_Soton_Tidy
  • Score: 1

9:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mr saint76 says...

Keep_Soton_Tidy wrote:
This charge is only for the white Hackney cabs ranked up outside the arrivals halls, you can call a local radio private hire firm for free, without the extra £1 charge
Yeah you can call West Quay cars and the drivers can teach you how to fight in pubs. Real class.
[quote][p][bold]Keep_Soton_Tidy[/bold] wrote: This charge is only for the white Hackney cabs ranked up outside the arrivals halls, you can call a local radio private hire firm for free, without the extra £1 charge[/p][/quote]Yeah you can call West Quay cars and the drivers can teach you how to fight in pubs. Real class. Mr saint76
  • Score: 3

9:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Donald2000 says...

In other news, four cabbies try killing one another in a fight to the death in Beovis Valley.

It would seem to me that ABP would be better off employing the services of Wyatt Earp.
In other news, four cabbies try killing one another in a fight to the death in Beovis Valley. It would seem to me that ABP would be better off employing the services of Wyatt Earp. Donald2000
  • Score: 0

11:58pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BeyondImagination says...

Southwest trains did a similar thing at Southampton Central some years ago. Now the taxi rank is 100 yards away in the road.
Southwest trains did a similar thing at Southampton Central some years ago. Now the taxi rank is 100 yards away in the road. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 1

8:55am Wed 19 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I guess if you are wealthy enough to afford a Cruise, it shouldn't be too much to spend an odd quid or two on transport from the Docks.
This is the bottom line, really. It's an absolutely trivial amount. Given that a lot of people simply round up the fare to something convenient as a tip, I predict that the cabs will actually end up costing passengers exactly the same amount as before anyway.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: I guess if you are wealthy enough to afford a Cruise, it shouldn't be too much to spend an odd quid or two on transport from the Docks.[/p][/quote]This is the bottom line, really. It's an absolutely trivial amount. Given that a lot of people simply round up the fare to something convenient as a tip, I predict that the cabs will actually end up costing passengers exactly the same amount as before anyway. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 0

1:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Pete Beard says...

Doesn't happen at Liverpool Cruise Terminals, £67 permit either. Come up North boys learn the knowledge up here.
Doesn't happen at Liverpool Cruise Terminals, £67 permit either. Come up North boys learn the knowledge up here. Pete Beard
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

Another good reason for not taking a cruise from Southampton.
Another good reason for not taking a cruise from Southampton. in search of the truth
  • Score: 0

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