Southampton City Council to discuss strict new rules on estate agent boards

Daily Echo: Strict new rules are proposed on the use of estate agent boards Strict new rules are proposed on the use of estate agent boards

FORESTS of ‘to let’ and ‘for sale’ signs could become a thing of the past in Southampton.

Southampton City Council will meet today to discuss adopting strict new guidelines on their use in the city.

Liberal Democrat group leader Adrian Vinson has put forward the motion in which he urges the council to recognise the concerns in areas of the city with large numbers of the boards.

The Portswood councillor urges the council to “recognise the concerns of residents in many parts of the city at the forest of ‘to let’, ‘for sale’ and ‘sold by’ boards and posters, left in place for considerable periods of time, which is blighting neighbourhoods.”

He adds that “in the age of the Internet, such signs are no longer the principal means of attracting tenants.”

Cllr Vinson is urging council bosses to adopt a regulation seven direction under town and country planning regulations, which are already used in other cities, including Brighton. That would mean anyone wanting to put up a board would have to ask the council first.

He also wants the city council to adopt a lettings board code, similar to that adopted by Leeds City Council, which features a list of restrictions and regulations on the use of boards.

The move has been supported by some residents’ associations in the city.

John Hayward, chairman of the Outer Avenue Residents’ Association says the boards are a “big problem” in his area, and says he recently spotted 53 signs on Gordon Avenue and 31 on Alma Road.

He said: “More than 50 per cent of houses in our area are Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs), largely for students, and we have huge numbers of letting and estate agent boards outside houses – sometimes there are boards on top of boards.

“They are an eyesore and they bring the area down.”

Lorraine Barter, from the Polygon Residents Action group, said: “I can understand that some people find them unsightly and it puts off families from coming to the HMO-dominated areas.”

But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region.

He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market.

“Some people don’t use the Internet to find out about an area. They come into town and they see the signs they make enquiries about the area.”

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6:15am Wed 19 Mar 14

townieboy says...

What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern.
What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern. townieboy
  • Score: -11

6:33am Wed 19 Mar 14

Cyber__Fug says...

The law is already in place that states that these boards must be removed once the property has been let / sold. It's just that the staff either don't know, can't be arsed or don't have the resources to implement.
The law is already in place that states that these boards must be removed once the property has been let / sold. It's just that the staff either don't know, can't be arsed or don't have the resources to implement. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 14

6:44am Wed 19 Mar 14

oldage says...

They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!!
I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months
One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later !
Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c
om
They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!! I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later ! Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c om oldage
  • Score: 5

7:04am Wed 19 Mar 14

Zexagon says...

oldage wrote:
They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!!
I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months
One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later !
Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c

om
I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt.
[quote][p][bold]oldage[/bold] wrote: They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!! I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later ! Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c om[/p][/quote]I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt. Zexagon
  • Score: 10

8:38am Wed 19 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

Zexagon wrote:
oldage wrote:
They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!!
I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months
One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later !
Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c


om
I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt.
Yep, letting agents are going to be a problem There is going to be more and more property let because tens of thousands of baby boomers like me can't afford to take the haemorrhage of negative interest rates so have had to get our money into buy to let-"accidental landlords". Thank you very much Quantitative Easing. God alone knows what other economic woes are going to hit us if we rely on the housing market and don't start making and exporting stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldage[/bold] wrote: They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!! I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later ! Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c om[/p][/quote]I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt.[/p][/quote]Yep, letting agents are going to be a problem There is going to be more and more property let because tens of thousands of baby boomers like me can't afford to take the haemorrhage of negative interest rates so have had to get our money into buy to let-"accidental landlords". Thank you very much Quantitative Easing. God alone knows what other economic woes are going to hit us if we rely on the housing market and don't start making and exporting stuff. Dai Rear
  • Score: 9

8:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

"But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region.

He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market."




Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme.

These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive.

The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing.

The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of.

Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.
"But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region. He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market." Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme. These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive. The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing. The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of. Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem. wwozzer
  • Score: 12

8:42am Wed 19 Mar 14

mrblunt says...

All sounds wonderful but SCC do not have the staff to administrate new regulations and certainly do not have anyone to enforce it.
Perhaps the traffic wardens could enforce it!!
All sounds wonderful but SCC do not have the staff to administrate new regulations and certainly do not have anyone to enforce it. Perhaps the traffic wardens could enforce it!! mrblunt
  • Score: 6

8:56am Wed 19 Mar 14

hulla baloo says...

townieboy wrote:
What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern.
I would think the high quantity, sizes and colours of rubbish bins were more of an eyesore.
[quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern.[/p][/quote]I would think the high quantity, sizes and colours of rubbish bins were more of an eyesore. hulla baloo
  • Score: 5

9:13am Wed 19 Mar 14

Stapleman says...

hulla baloo wrote:
townieboy wrote:
What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern.
I would think the high quantity, sizes and colours of rubbish bins were more of an eyesore.
Charge the letting agents for every sign £2.00 per day, charge the landlords of HMO's £2.00 a day for every bin left out and scrap evening parking charge.
Maybe then they could reduce the "Council Tax" for people who have to live in these blighted places the Council has allowed to develop through lack of planning and enforcement. They should apply the criteria, similar to "making the polluter pay!"
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: What utter rubbish. The £2 parking charge is more of a concern.[/p][/quote]I would think the high quantity, sizes and colours of rubbish bins were more of an eyesore.[/p][/quote]Charge the letting agents for every sign £2.00 per day, charge the landlords of HMO's £2.00 a day for every bin left out and scrap evening parking charge. Maybe then they could reduce the "Council Tax" for people who have to live in these blighted places the Council has allowed to develop through lack of planning and enforcement. They should apply the criteria, similar to "making the polluter pay!" Stapleman
  • Score: 5

9:40am Wed 19 Mar 14

S Pance says...

What? No mention of Ms Rayment?! This must be a first!

The solution is to only permit half sized signs and to levy a charge on any that are up longer than 6 weeks.

Of more concern are those fugly wheelie bins-they look absolutely dreadful!
What? No mention of Ms Rayment?! This must be a first! The solution is to only permit half sized signs and to levy a charge on any that are up longer than 6 weeks. Of more concern are those fugly wheelie bins-they look absolutely dreadful! S Pance
  • Score: -1

9:43am Wed 19 Mar 14

David G says...

Students are completely behind this crackdown!

To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month.

They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents.

And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton.

The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.
Students are completely behind this crackdown! To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month. They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents. And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton. The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing. David G
  • Score: 4

10:57am Wed 19 Mar 14

Rockhopper says...

Estate Agents/Letting Agents are still the most unregulated business there is.
If anyone is interested I will share some of my experience having been in the property industry for 20 years
The best agency I have dealt with in Southampton is an independent one, and no I do not have any personal/financial interest in saying that.
This is because they are not owned by a large national organisation like Countrywide where the staff are just puppets being told how to work.
Many of the national agents only want to sell you a property if you take one of their in house mortgages, and in some cases they won't even let you view the property unless you do.
Don't be bullied, you must get a whole of market mortgage advisor and if you can show you already have a mortgage arranged you are happy with then there is no reason to see anyone else.
Even when you make an offer they often say someone else has made a higher offer just to make you pay more money, dont' do it, stick to your original offer, you will be suprised how many times they come back to you and if not there is always another property.
With regard to letting they often want proof of your income to even view the property or say it is already let when they don't like you.
Think of it as their loss if they don't want to show you the property, in any case do you really want to rent from an agency who treats you like that?Tenancy renewal fees should also be banned, the fact is you don't need to sign a new contract every 6/12 months if you are on an AST, it is just another money making scheme from the letting agent.
When you have that regular property inspection make sure you are present and any repair issues are highlighted and agreed at that time.
The agencies are often slow in doing any repairs because they do not want to upset the landlord.
However your contract is between you and the landlord, not the agency so if the letting agent continues to delay any repairs seeks advice from CAB or your Local Council who if necessary can serve a notice direct to the landlord.
Also when you arrange to vacate a rented property make sure you are present at the final check-out, sign and agree to any damage/repairs.
Again this is a money making scheme from the letting agent to give you back less of your deposit.
The Government need to implement more regulation on both Estate/Letting agents to prevent these practices.
Most people have experience dealing with these property agencies so the Daily Echo should encourage readers to send in their experiences so the unreputable agencies can be named.
This will also assist sellers and landlords when deciding which agency to use.
If this has saved one person from becoming a victim of an Estate Agent/Letting Agent I will be happy.
Estate Agents/Letting Agents are still the most unregulated business there is. If anyone is interested I will share some of my experience having been in the property industry for 20 years The best agency I have dealt with in Southampton is an independent one, and no I do not have any personal/financial interest in saying that. This is because they are not owned by a large national organisation like Countrywide where the staff are just puppets being told how to work. Many of the national agents only want to sell you a property if you take one of their in house mortgages, and in some cases they won't even let you view the property unless you do. Don't be bullied, you must get a whole of market mortgage advisor and if you can show you already have a mortgage arranged you are happy with then there is no reason to see anyone else. Even when you make an offer they often say someone else has made a higher offer just to make you pay more money, dont' do it, stick to your original offer, you will be suprised how many times they come back to you and if not there is always another property. With regard to letting they often want proof of your income to even view the property or say it is already let when they don't like you. Think of it as their loss if they don't want to show you the property, in any case do you really want to rent from an agency who treats you like that?Tenancy renewal fees should also be banned, the fact is you don't need to sign a new contract every 6/12 months if you are on an AST, it is just another money making scheme from the letting agent. When you have that regular property inspection make sure you are present and any repair issues are highlighted and agreed at that time. The agencies are often slow in doing any repairs because they do not want to upset the landlord. However your contract is between you and the landlord, not the agency so if the letting agent continues to delay any repairs seeks advice from CAB or your Local Council who if necessary can serve a notice direct to the landlord. Also when you arrange to vacate a rented property make sure you are present at the final check-out, sign and agree to any damage/repairs. Again this is a money making scheme from the letting agent to give you back less of your deposit. The Government need to implement more regulation on both Estate/Letting agents to prevent these practices. Most people have experience dealing with these property agencies so the Daily Echo should encourage readers to send in their experiences so the unreputable agencies can be named. This will also assist sellers and landlords when deciding which agency to use. If this has saved one person from becoming a victim of an Estate Agent/Letting Agent I will be happy. Rockhopper
  • Score: 9

11:17am Wed 19 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

"Many of the national agents only want to sell you a property if you take one of their in house mortgages, and in some cases they won't even let you view the property unless you do"
Spot on Rockhopper.
Very much my experience with my buy to let in Southampton. I'd seen "Despatches" so I recognised the signs. In this case I agreed to buy the house, refused to see their "mortgage advisor", got my own and then was punished by the agent failing to send a memorandum of agreement to my licensed conveyancers (I was caught there. They were a "panel" outfit of the mortgagee and pretty inept. Use a proper solicitor.)
Anyway I explained to the agents there was no way I'd use them to let the property so they lost their commission for that for the sake of the £200 they'd have collected for their "in house" mortgage. Stupid eejits. But then I was doing conveyancing (unregistered) before most of them were born and I feel sorry for the naïve youngsters who have to deal with estate and letting agencies.
"Many of the national agents only want to sell you a property if you take one of their in house mortgages, and in some cases they won't even let you view the property unless you do" Spot on Rockhopper. Very much my experience with my buy to let in Southampton. I'd seen "Despatches" so I recognised the signs. In this case I agreed to buy the house, refused to see their "mortgage advisor", got my own and then was punished by the agent failing to send a memorandum of agreement to my licensed conveyancers (I was caught there. They were a "panel" outfit of the mortgagee and pretty inept. Use a proper solicitor.) Anyway I explained to the agents there was no way I'd use them to let the property so they lost their commission for that for the sake of the £200 they'd have collected for their "in house" mortgage. Stupid eejits. But then I was doing conveyancing (unregistered) before most of them were born and I feel sorry for the naïve youngsters who have to deal with estate and letting agencies. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

11:43am Wed 19 Mar 14

southy says...

wwozzer wrote:
"But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region.

He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market."




Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme.

These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive.

The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing.

The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of.

Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.
Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: "But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region. He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market." Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme. These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive. The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing. The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of. Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.[/p][/quote]Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of southy
  • Score: -3

12:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

David G wrote:
Students are completely behind this crackdown!

To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month.

They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents.

And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton.

The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.
If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there.
[quote][p][bold]David G[/bold] wrote: Students are completely behind this crackdown! To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month. They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents. And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton. The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.[/p][/quote]If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 0

12:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Jesta-a-View says...

Agreeing with those who have flagged up the folly of the Tory led Government's interference in the FREE Market they claim to hold so dear and the disaster this will eventually heap upon us all, may I add...they are "signs" of the times!
What other major economic power relies so heavily on the opinion of unqualified twerps called Estate Agents?
Agreeing with those who have flagged up the folly of the Tory led Government's interference in the FREE Market they claim to hold so dear and the disaster this will eventually heap upon us all, may I add...they are "signs" of the times! What other major economic power relies so heavily on the opinion of unqualified twerps called Estate Agents? Jesta-a-View
  • Score: -1

12:17pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Saint Botley says...

If the council are concerned about eyesores all of a sudden, they might want to take a look at the scrap metal dealership off of Northam bridge. Nothing like a rusty pile of old junk to welcome you on your entrance into the city.
If the council are concerned about eyesores all of a sudden, they might want to take a look at the scrap metal dealership off of Northam bridge. Nothing like a rusty pile of old junk to welcome you on your entrance into the city. Saint Botley
  • Score: 3

1:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

Jesta-a-View wrote:
Agreeing with those who have flagged up the folly of the Tory led Government's interference in the FREE Market they claim to hold so dear and the disaster this will eventually heap upon us all, may I add...they are "signs" of the times!
What other major economic power relies so heavily on the opinion of unqualified twerps called Estate Agents?
Well the European Union squanders a vast amount of cash so I guess that makes it a "major etc". It doesn't rely over much on estate agents but I don't think it has any qualified people, only played out politicians like Kinnock, Patten et al.
You're right in that by not doing anything about runaway Housing Benefit claims, the coalition government has grossly inflated rents but, hey, hadn't the socialists been doing the same interference since 1997?
[quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: Agreeing with those who have flagged up the folly of the Tory led Government's interference in the FREE Market they claim to hold so dear and the disaster this will eventually heap upon us all, may I add...they are "signs" of the times! What other major economic power relies so heavily on the opinion of unqualified twerps called Estate Agents?[/p][/quote]Well the European Union squanders a vast amount of cash so I guess that makes it a "major etc". It doesn't rely over much on estate agents but I don't think it has any qualified people, only played out politicians like Kinnock, Patten et al. You're right in that by not doing anything about runaway Housing Benefit claims, the coalition government has grossly inflated rents but, hey, hadn't the socialists been doing the same interference since 1997? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

shirley-bill says...

Zexagon wrote:
oldage wrote:
They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!!
I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months
One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later !
Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c


om
I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt.
I work for a company that owns 40 blocks of flats in Southampton and I remove all boards that the Estate Agents/Letting Agents put up . Once I remove it then its cut up and goes in the bin . Now I only get about 3 boards a month . Hit them were it hurts, these boards cost money so once its gone its gone.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldage[/bold] wrote: They also need to look into there astrinomical fees /some aare charging £210 for fist person and £150 per person after just to get work refs and crdit check .I offered to get work to send a work ref to the agent they reused!! I have been looking for a house or bungalow for the past 2 months One agent even told me i could not view on my only day off which happened to be a sunday was very rude /I still wanted to view the place but they told me its had been let another lie from the agent its still available 2 months later ! Rude agents so anyone knows of a house or bungalow in so18 please feel free to contact me ginger7427@outlook.c om[/p][/quote]I do maintenance for several letting agents.The women who work in them think they know all there is to know about the building side when in fact they know f all( does make me laugh) They also talk to you like your a piece of dirt.[/p][/quote]I work for a company that owns 40 blocks of flats in Southampton and I remove all boards that the Estate Agents/Letting Agents put up . Once I remove it then its cut up and goes in the bin . Now I only get about 3 boards a month . Hit them were it hurts, these boards cost money so once its gone its gone. shirley-bill
  • Score: 2

4:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

The_Fuzz22 says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
David G wrote:
Students are completely behind this crackdown!

To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month.

They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents.

And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton.

The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.
If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there.
I dunno given David G is the president of the students' union I'm going to hazard this comment is in no way trying to blame students.

"Students are completely behind this crackdown" means "students completely support it".
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David G[/bold] wrote: Students are completely behind this crackdown! To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month. They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents. And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton. The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.[/p][/quote]If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there.[/p][/quote]I dunno given David G is the president of the students' union I'm going to hazard this comment is in no way trying to blame students. "Students are completely behind this crackdown" means "students completely support it". The_Fuzz22
  • Score: 3

5:49pm Wed 19 Mar 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
wwozzer wrote:
"But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region.

He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market."




Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme.

These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive.

The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing.

The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of.

Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.
Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of
Perhaps you could provide us with evidence that: -

1) the levels never return back to the level it was before.
and.
2) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s.
and.
3) technically we still in and have not come out of.

Bet you can't provide even one shred of verifiable evidence for any of these 3 statements.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: "But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region. He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market." Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme. These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive. The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing. The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of. Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.[/p][/quote]Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could provide us with evidence that: - 1) the levels never return back to the level it was before. and. 2) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s. and. 3) technically we still in [the 1980s recession] and have not come out of. Bet you can't provide even one shred of verifiable evidence for any of these 3 statements. freefinker
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

Poor old Southy. He's never been the same since he joined that Order of Carmelite nuns
Poor old Southy. He's never been the same since he joined that Order of Carmelite nuns Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

7:53am Thu 20 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

The_Fuzz22 wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
David G wrote:
Students are completely behind this crackdown!

To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month.

They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents.

And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton.

The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.
If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there.
I dunno given David G is the president of the students' union I'm going to hazard this comment is in no way trying to blame students.

"Students are completely behind this crackdown" means "students completely support it".
Oh right, my mistake! Apologies all round. Thanks for clearing that up.
[quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David G[/bold] wrote: Students are completely behind this crackdown! To-let signs pressure new students to start looking for housing far too early. Some of the students have only moved away from home for a month. They are an eyesore on our streets and so annoy local residents. And... our own police force have said that they increase crime around Southampton. The only people who won't like this move will be letting agencies, as it will stop them abusing this old-fashioned and obtrusive technique of marketing.[/p][/quote]If the signs are pressuring students, how is it the students at fault? Seems to me you started at "I want to blame the students" and worked backwards from there.[/p][/quote]I dunno given David G is the president of the students' union I'm going to hazard this comment is in no way trying to blame students. "Students are completely behind this crackdown" means "students completely support it".[/p][/quote]Oh right, my mistake! Apologies all round. Thanks for clearing that up. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 1

7:55am Thu 20 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

southy wrote:
wwozzer wrote:
"But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region.

He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market."




Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme.

These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive.

The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing.

The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of.

Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.
Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of
In what way did we not recover from the recession in the 80s? Is this by the actual definition of "recession", or the definition written by Rahit Maryada?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: "But Savill’s estate agent George Long believes any changes would make life harder for estate agents across the region. He said: “If you are coming out of a recession you need as much interest as you can get in property. If suddenly you’re going to take away every for sale sign you’re going to severely restrict the housing market." Proof if ever it were needed that estate agents are full of sh*t. The property market and subsequent dodgy lending is what got us into a recession in the first place. Industry and a strong economy will get us out of recession, not more lending on overpriced hobbit houses, not another Ponzi scheme. These boards are a bloody eyesore and as far as the lettings business is concerned demand already far outstrips supply, in areas like Portswood near the university the demand is massive. The signs are nothing to do with attracting tenants in this age of the internet, they are simply an exercise in promoting letting agents businesses, market presence, a ridiculous game of who's got the most boards up and trying to pinch prospective tenants off each other, literally on the doorstep one it comes to a viewing. The problem is there are far too many letting agents competing for business which is why they are doing a better job of blitzing this city than Hitler could have ever dreamed of. Why not give them an option? take your boards down or they must have the rent, deposit and fees printed on them for each property. That should be the end of the problem.[/p][/quote]Its a government spin saying we are coming out of recession all we are having is a small peak there will be a crash following, the levels never return back to the level it was before (which should be the bench mark to saying we coming out of a recession) its all ways lower and have been since the 1980s recession which technically we still in and have not come out of[/p][/quote]In what way did we not recover from the recession in the 80s? Is this by the actual definition of "recession", or the definition written by Rahit Maryada? gilbertratchet
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