Bid to stop smokers from lighting up near Southampton's play areas

Daily Echo: Chloe Fish, Tia Douglas and Jack Charlston meet Callum Chambers with their anti-smoking posters Chloe Fish, Tia Douglas and Jack Charlston meet Callum Chambers with their anti-smoking posters

“PLEASE don’t smoke in our parks.”

That is the plea from two Southampton schoolgirls as the city takes one step closer to becoming smoke-free.

City health bosses are eager to stop adults smoking in public spaces and children’s parks in a bid to protect children and prevent premature deaths.

This month new signs will be erected in our parks and public spaces, urging smokers to think twice before they light up.

It comes as latest figures reveal that smoking rates in Southampton are higher than the national average, with 22.6 per cent of adults smoking, compared to 20 per cent nationally.

Opportunity It is part of a wider smoke-free city initiative that health bosses will discuss later this month.

Councillor Dave Shields, cabinet member for health and adult social care, said: “We welcome the opportunity for local government to lead action to tackle smoking and improve the health and wellbeing of local people.

“By encouraging people not to smoke in enclosed play areas, we can protect our children.

“The initiative acts as a step toward our city becoming smoke-free and in the process, saving the city some money.”

The signs have been designed by two pupils from Newlands Primary School, Chloe Fish and Tia Douglas, who won a poster competition launched by Southampton City Council.

Their creations were unveiled with the help of Saints player Calum Chambers, who is backing the campaign to get city parks smoke-free.

Tia, 9, said: “By not allowing smoking in parks, it means no cigarette butts lying around for kids to find and less mess and litter around bins.

“Sometimes bins have that bit on the top for smokers to put their cigarettes out on and kids then end up putting their fingers in it, which is disgusting.”

Chloe, 10, added: “I entered the competition as I think it’s important parks are kept smoke-free because it will keep children healthier and also set a good example to them by not smoking.”

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6:14am Thu 20 Mar 14

townieboy says...

Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways.
Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways. townieboy
  • Score: -13

6:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

skeptik says...

Non smoker but come on - the whiff of cigarette smoke as bad as that is can hardly make much difference to air laden with exhaust fumes. I can put up with smoke, sitting next to a stranger to water and soap - ban them on buses.
Non smoker but come on - the whiff of cigarette smoke as bad as that is can hardly make much difference to air laden with exhaust fumes. I can put up with smoke, sitting next to a stranger to water and soap - ban them on buses. skeptik
  • Score: 45

6:36am Thu 20 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

It's ironic, with one hand the council will quit funding for air monitoring stations which monitor the real deadly stuff in the air like pm10 and pm 2.5 which get lodged in the lungs then with the other hand they will ban smoking outside which is harmless to others. Confused.
It's ironic, with one hand the council will quit funding for air monitoring stations which monitor the real deadly stuff in the air like pm10 and pm 2.5 which get lodged in the lungs then with the other hand they will ban smoking outside which is harmless to others. Confused. bigfella777
  • Score: 37

7:26am Thu 20 Mar 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS . SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 15

8:21am Thu 20 Mar 14

sburman says...

I am a Smoker. I do not smoke:
- In my house
- In anybody else’s house
- In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc.
- In my car when my grandkids are present.
- Inside the building when at work
- And many other places.
I think that is enough.
There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment. sburman
  • Score: 45

8:22am Thu 20 Mar 14

sburman says...

PS. I now pay more taxes which have increased by more than inflation
PS. I now pay more taxes which have increased by more than inflation sburman
  • Score: 19

8:33am Thu 20 Mar 14

AndyVD says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap. AndyVD
  • Score: -8

8:45am Thu 20 Mar 14

sburman says...

townieboy wrote:
Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways.
In a Pub are you!!
Alcohol is bad for you didn’t you know. The Health police will be after you next
[quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways.[/p][/quote]In a Pub are you!! Alcohol is bad for you didn’t you know. The Health police will be after you next sburman
  • Score: 13

8:45am Thu 20 Mar 14

SwedeSaint says...

I think the issue here is smoking debris and the presence of a smoker, which could be said by some sets the wrong example. Absolute minefield to start trying to police the example setting part, but the debris issue can be tackled.
I hate those bins with the ash-tray on top, and the young girl is right when she highlights cigarette ends that are strewn about the place.

Smoking outside is fine if you take care of your litter, how many smokers would quite happily throw their fag butt on the grass, but wouldn't dream of doing it with a drinks carton or sandwich wrapper - the majority I would suggest.

Tackle it as a litter issue.
I think the issue here is smoking debris and the presence of a smoker, which could be said by some sets the wrong example. Absolute minefield to start trying to police the example setting part, but the debris issue can be tackled. I hate those bins with the ash-tray on top, and the young girl is right when she highlights cigarette ends that are strewn about the place. Smoking outside is fine if you take care of your litter, how many smokers would quite happily throw their fag butt on the grass, but wouldn't dream of doing it with a drinks carton or sandwich wrapper - the majority I would suggest. Tackle it as a litter issue. SwedeSaint
  • Score: -2

8:56am Thu 20 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

AndyVD wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
DPF's only remove the large particles, not the small ones which get lodged in the bottom of your lungs, they also do not stop Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Dioxide or Sulphur Dioxide.
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.[/p][/quote]DPF's only remove the large particles, not the small ones which get lodged in the bottom of your lungs, they also do not stop Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Dioxide or Sulphur Dioxide. bigfella777
  • Score: 8

9:04am Thu 20 Mar 14

Tenderhearts wife says...

Im a non smoker but this is going way too far now. The Nanny state mentality has to stop somewhere. Advise& educate by all means but bans and fines? Over the top and just another way to fleece people and boost the coffers depleted by poor Government spending.
Im a non smoker but this is going way too far now. The Nanny state mentality has to stop somewhere. Advise& educate by all means but bans and fines? Over the top and just another way to fleece people and boost the coffers depleted by poor Government spending. Tenderhearts wife
  • Score: 22

9:04am Thu 20 Mar 14

sotonbusdriver says...

sburman wrote:
I am a Smoker. I do not smoke:
- In my house
- In anybody else’s house
- In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc.
- In my car when my grandkids are present.
- Inside the building when at work
- And many other places.
I think that is enough.
There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers...

People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get.

Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with..

Yet just smokers are targeted...

I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum..... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: 26

9:10am Thu 20 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

egghead65 wrote:
tw ats.get a life.dinlo f uck ers
Sounds like you have an amazing one, where did you get it?
[quote][p][bold]egghead65[/bold] wrote: tw ats.get a life.dinlo f uck ers[/p][/quote]Sounds like you have an amazing one, where did you get it? bigfella777
  • Score: 6

9:15am Thu 20 Mar 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

AndyVD wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
What about the 1000 s of foreign lorry s old buses & coaches , Fawley and any chemical company s . ! SMOKING OUTSIDE in open spaces is far less of a THREAT.
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.[/p][/quote]What about the 1000 s of foreign lorry s old buses & coaches , Fawley and any chemical company s . ! SMOKING OUTSIDE in open spaces is far less of a THREAT. SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 12

9:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

sophisticated says...

About time. The park on Southampton Common looked like the bottom of an ash tray last time I looked.
About time. The park on Southampton Common looked like the bottom of an ash tray last time I looked. sophisticated
  • Score: -9

9:55am Thu 20 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

sophisticated wrote:
About time. The park on Southampton Common looked like the bottom of an ash tray last time I looked.
The problem is the cigarette smokers with their non-degradable filters.

Civilised people, such as pipe and cigar smokers, do not leave this mess behind.

I guess it's a class thing.
[quote][p][bold]sophisticated[/bold] wrote: About time. The park on Southampton Common looked like the bottom of an ash tray last time I looked.[/p][/quote]The problem is the cigarette smokers with their non-degradable filters. Civilised people, such as pipe and cigar smokers, do not leave this mess behind. I guess it's a class thing. From the sidelines
  • Score: 3

10:33am Thu 20 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Please don't respond to this troll, just report it.
Please don't respond to this troll, just report it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

10:59am Thu 20 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

egghead65, some one forgot their ritalin this morning. Don't worry though, it's giro day tomorrow! x
egghead65, some one forgot their ritalin this morning. Don't worry though, it's giro day tomorrow! x camerajuan
  • Score: 4

11:27am Thu 20 Mar 14

southy says...

AndyVD wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
Its only an MOT if the car was built in 2010 and after, before this date it do not come into an MOT
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.[/p][/quote]Its only an MOT if the car was built in 2010 and after, before this date it do not come into an MOT southy
  • Score: -5

11:30am Thu 20 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Also do not use the quote function, the Echo will remove the offensive stuff soon enough, but quoting perpetuates the rubbish.
Also do not use the quote function, the Echo will remove the offensive stuff soon enough, but quoting perpetuates the rubbish. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

12:21pm Thu 20 Mar 14

RealTalkSouthampton says...

Why is it peoples excuses for smoking is that everything else in the world has to be perfect first. I don't smoke and have two children. But my parents were/are smokers and most people i know that smoke think it is a discussing habit. I'm not going to go into detail of all the nasty things in a cigaret etc... But i will say since smoking was banned in club/restaurants, that it is so much more refreshing.

Also i see parents smoking outside school gates, in cars with kids. Staff in doorways etc...

My point is if you want to smoke nobody else should have to!
Why is it peoples excuses for smoking is that everything else in the world has to be perfect first. I don't smoke and have two children. But my parents were/are smokers and most people i know that smoke think it is a discussing habit. I'm not going to go into detail of all the nasty things in a cigaret etc... But i will say since smoking was banned in club/restaurants, that it is so much more refreshing. Also i see parents smoking outside school gates, in cars with kids. Staff in doorways etc... My point is if you want to smoke nobody else should have to! RealTalkSouthampton
  • Score: -10

1:06pm Thu 20 Mar 14

waltons11 says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
sburman wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all. waltons11
  • Score: 12

1:30pm Thu 20 Mar 14

LadySam says...

I guess the broken glass, human excrement, fast food wrappers and other human detritus is ok, though? Get real; the traffic fumes are far worse than widely dispersed ciggie smoke. Pathetic.
I guess the broken glass, human excrement, fast food wrappers and other human detritus is ok, though? Get real; the traffic fumes are far worse than widely dispersed ciggie smoke. Pathetic. LadySam
  • Score: 10

2:14pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

LadySam wrote:
I guess the broken glass, human excrement, fast food wrappers and other human detritus is ok, though? Get real; the traffic fumes are far worse than widely dispersed ciggie smoke. Pathetic.
not forgetting the chemtrails ,flouride in the water ,dodgy vaccines ,gm food ,nanny state ? doing a very good job poisoning us all.
[quote][p][bold]LadySam[/bold] wrote: I guess the broken glass, human excrement, fast food wrappers and other human detritus is ok, though? Get real; the traffic fumes are far worse than widely dispersed ciggie smoke. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]not forgetting the chemtrails ,flouride in the water ,dodgy vaccines ,gm food ,nanny state ? doing a very good job poisoning us all. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 9

3:43pm Thu 20 Mar 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

bigfella777 wrote:
egghead65 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
egghead65 wrote:
tw ats.get a life.dinlo f uck ers
Sounds like you have an amazing one, where did you get it?
your not A BIG FELLA your a little man with a little dick
Shouldn't you be in school?
Judging by the spelling.that's alien territory to them.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]egghead65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]egghead65[/bold] wrote: tw ats.get a life.dinlo f uck ers[/p][/quote]Sounds like you have an amazing one, where did you get it?[/p][/quote]your not A BIG FELLA your a little man with a little dick[/p][/quote]Shouldn't you be in school?[/p][/quote]Judging by the spelling.that's alien territory to them. 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 2

4:48pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Zexagon says...

sburman wrote:
townieboy wrote:
Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways.
In a Pub are you!!
Alcohol is bad for you didn’t you know. The Health police will be after you next
Yes but I he doesn't p1ss over the person next to him
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: Why just the children ? Ban it everywhere outside especally in pub doorways.[/p][/quote]In a Pub are you!! Alcohol is bad for you didn’t you know. The Health police will be after you next[/p][/quote]Yes but I he doesn't p1ss over the person next to him Zexagon
  • Score: -4

5:59pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

AndyVD wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
Particulate. You're correct but , used in cities for short journeys they don't work because they've not time to heat up.
I think small children should be employed as bird scarers in the parks lest pigeons poo on other children which is a terrifying threat to the poor little dabs' health.
PS "Tia" = "auntie" in Spanish.
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.[/p][/quote]Particulate. You're correct but , used in cities for short journeys they don't work because they've not time to heat up. I think small children should be employed as bird scarers in the parks lest pigeons poo on other children which is a terrifying threat to the poor little dabs' health. PS "Tia" = "auntie" in Spanish. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

6:42pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Soulrebel One says...

The next step should be position snipers around the parks to shoot smokers, failing that, we all have to wear special "bubble" suits when venturing outside, or invest in hover boots to simple float above those evil smoking people/cars/lorries/
anything that emits nasty non clean air.....or move to the country, but then you have the problem of smelly cows and horses, oh, let's all just stay indoors, we're doomed
The next step should be position snipers around the parks to shoot smokers, failing that, we all have to wear special "bubble" suits when venturing outside, or invest in hover boots to simple float above those evil smoking people/cars/lorries/ anything that emits nasty non clean air.....or move to the country, but then you have the problem of smelly cows and horses, oh, let's all just stay indoors, we're doomed Soulrebel One
  • Score: 4

7:27pm Thu 20 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

waltons11 wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
sburman wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.
Never heard of passive smoking? Google it and learn how it can harm others. Roy Castle blamed his illness on breathing smoking fumes while performing in Clubs and pubs.
[quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.[/p][/quote]Never heard of passive smoking? Google it and learn how it can harm others. Roy Castle blamed his illness on breathing smoking fumes while performing in Clubs and pubs. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

8:03pm Thu 20 Mar 14

solomum says...

waltons11 wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
sburman wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.
How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me.
[quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.[/p][/quote]How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me. solomum
  • Score: -4

8:06pm Thu 20 Mar 14

AndyVD says...

southy wrote:
AndyVD wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .
Think you need to review what the EU did to change that.

A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted.

As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure.

Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.
Its only an MOT if the car was built in 2010 and after, before this date it do not come into an MOT
Wrong southy.

Any car fitted with a DPF from factory is required to have it fitted at MOT, regardless. I've already done the research on this as I have DPF my self, and have had friends with cars older than 2010 fishing out a lot of money to have them put back on after their cars failed

I don't know where you heard that.

https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/news/new-r
ules-for-mot-to-test
-for-diesel-particul
ate-filter
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Like to see anyone TRY this . Dirty belching diesel engines and company s belching god knows what fumes across the city . If this ever does happen , they better build more prisons for the SMOKERS .[/p][/quote]Think you need to review what the EU did to change that. A lot of cars from 2006 onwards were fitted with Diesel Particular Filters, and as of 2010 onwards, all diesels are required to have these fitted. As of this year, if you have removed your DPF, it is an MOT failure. Think you don't have to worry so much any more about diesel pumping out crap.[/p][/quote]Its only an MOT if the car was built in 2010 and after, before this date it do not come into an MOT[/p][/quote]Wrong southy. Any car fitted with a DPF from factory is required to have it fitted at MOT, regardless. I've already done the research on this as I have DPF my self, and have had friends with cars older than 2010 fishing out a lot of money to have them put back on after their cars failed I don't know where you heard that. https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/news/new-r ules-for-mot-to-test -for-diesel-particul ate-filter AndyVD
  • Score: 3

10:03pm Thu 20 Mar 14

robj1969 says...

solomum wrote:
waltons11 wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
sburman wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.
How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me.
asthma and pollution have no correlation........ http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/health/776665
6.stm
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.[/p][/quote]How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me.[/p][/quote]asthma and pollution have no correlation........ http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/health/776665 6.stm robj1969
  • Score: -3

12:15am Fri 21 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

Can they stop it outside West Quay as it really annoys to have to move past them all right outside the door doing it?
Can they stop it outside West Quay as it really annoys to have to move past them all right outside the door doing it? Mary80
  • Score: 1

5:46am Fri 21 Mar 14

skeptik says...

How about closing the toll booths on Itchen bridge they impede free movement of traffic and cause miles of crawling air polluting traffic - 'Green?' But not where cash is king.
How about closing the toll booths on Itchen bridge they impede free movement of traffic and cause miles of crawling air polluting traffic - 'Green?' But not where cash is king. skeptik
  • Score: 0

11:16am Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

robj1969 wrote:
solomum wrote:
waltons11 wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
sburman wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.
sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....
I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.
How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me.
asthma and pollution have no correlation........ http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/health/776665

6.stm
Depends on who you listen to:-
http://www.webmd.boo
ts.com/asthma/news/2
0140122/secondhand-s
moke-children-asthma
-flare-ups
[quote][p][bold]robj1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am a Smoker. I do not smoke: - In my house - In anybody else’s house - In a Public building, Café, pub, cinema etc. - In my car when my grandkids are present. - Inside the building when at work - And many other places. I think that is enough. There are many other of life’s activities that are bad for young people’s health but it seems only smoking warrants this treatment.[/p][/quote]sburman, I agree too much burden is being put up on smokers... People can avoid smokers as you can see they are smoking and take evasive action, but although there are rules for other things it doesn't get the attention, that smokers get. Alcoholic drinkers raise their risk of health issues, costing the NHS millions, but they get no attention by the media at all... Often drink drivers are not known to other road users till they smash into you in accident... Alcoholics are prone to fights and arguments, vandalism, criminal damage, vomiting leaving infectious (possibly) body fluids for other to get contact with.. Yet just smokers are targeted... I thought that we as a nation weren't supposed to pick on minority groups, as it is antismokisum.....[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you both, I have never killed anyone by being a smoker, but many drinkers do when they drive under the influence, and yet tax has been reduced on alcohol. Makes no sense at all.[/p][/quote]How do you know you have never killed anyone by being a smoker? As an asthmatic, breathing in smoke causes me extreme discomfort and can trigger asthma. People die from Asthma. In fact, I lost both a family member and a school friend from this very illness and I have been hospitalised many times myself. As a child my mum smoked and this affected me dreadfully. Walking through Southampton, it is impossible to take more than a few steps without breathing in other peoples cigarette smoke. I am completely for a total ban on smoking in public places. This will offend a lot of people, but struggling to breathe because other people choose to smoke offends me.[/p][/quote]asthma and pollution have no correlation........ http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/health/776665 6.stm[/p][/quote]Depends on who you listen to:- http://www.webmd.boo ts.com/asthma/news/2 0140122/secondhand-s moke-children-asthma -flare-ups OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

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