Damp homes are a health risk to Hampshire families

Daily Echo: Vicky Richards and Leon Woodcock with children Leon, Sinead and Sky. Vicky Richards and Leon Woodcock with children Leon, Sinead and Sky.

‘THEY should condemn this place’.

Those are the words of two Hampshire families living in a block of flats riddled with damp and mould.

Residents say black spores are spreading through apartments and hallways of the two-storey block in Copper Beeches, Blackfield.

Mum Vicky Richards said conditions are so bad she suffered an electric shock from a wet plug socket, while neighbour Robi Sterian has thrown out hundreds of pounds of mouldy clothes.

Meanwhile they say that rats have colonised the bin store close to both their ground-floor homes.

Now they are demanding housing association Sovereign improves the building they say is making their young families ill.

Mum-of-three Vicky is too scared to use her bedroom socket after a shock “threw her across the room” while using hair straighteners.

She says the damp has penetrated every room of her two-bedroom property – forcing her and partner Leon to replace wallpaper and throw out a pram .

Vicky, 22, fears for the health of their children aged three, 16 months and nine weeks, and said: “It’s a nightmare. There’s mould on clothes and surfaces and my youngest has had a cough ever since he came back from hospital. This building should be condemned – it isn’t liveable or safe.”

Robi says his partner Zoe, 28, and daughter Kenzie, 8, also regularly fall ill with colds while Adela, one, suffered a chest infection.

The 29-year-old catering assistant said: “It’s so wet in here it’s like a cave.

“Replacing things is draining our money and whenever we try to speak to the housing association they don’t want to listen.”

A Sovereign spokesman stressed they had visited residents a number of times to advise them how to reduce humidity while installing extractor fans.

He said: “We are assessing the extent of the problems and how we can resolve them.”

He insisted the bin area is regularly cleaned but that measures to eradicate rats are underway.

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12:28pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it. bigfella777
  • Score: 11

12:36pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Superchick says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me Superchick
  • Score: 18

1:02pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Quentin Heslop says...

From what the report says, and photo shows, this is a condensation issue, which results from occupation and not building faults. The occupiers need to help themselves by taking the advice no doubt offered by the HA to minimise the risk of condensation; cleaning the mould off with bleach or mould inhibitor would be a good start judging by the photo.
From what the report says, and photo shows, this is a condensation issue, which results from occupation and not building faults. The occupiers need to help themselves by taking the advice no doubt offered by the HA to minimise the risk of condensation; cleaning the mould off with bleach or mould inhibitor would be a good start judging by the photo. Quentin Heslop
  • Score: 14

1:31pm Mon 31 Mar 14

jonone says...

Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail.

That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face"

Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
[quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result! jonone
  • Score: 13

1:36pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Tenderhearts wife says...

open the windows now and again, it helps.
open the windows now and again, it helps. Tenderhearts wife
  • Score: 14

1:39pm Mon 31 Mar 14

solomum says...

The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.
The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment. solomum
  • Score: -9

1:43pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Lone Ranger. says...

jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail.

That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face"

Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time.
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Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45 Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -6

1:43pm Mon 31 Mar 14

solomum says...

jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail.

That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face"

Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
One search of the address on google and it comes straight up. They are not new properties.
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]One search of the address on google and it comes straight up. They are not new properties. solomum
  • Score: -5

1:48pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

solomum wrote:
The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.
Its not rising damp its mould caused by too much humidity in the air. 5 people all that washing ,breathing, cooking. They should buy a dehumidifier and leave it running. Clean the walls with white vinegar not bleach. Open windows every day it would soon be under control. Mould only turns black when it has been left to grow for a long time and has started to reproduce and spore.
They also have a responsibility as tenants to keep their home clean and there will be rules in place regarding drying of clothes indoors.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.[/p][/quote]Its not rising damp its mould caused by too much humidity in the air. 5 people all that washing ,breathing, cooking. They should buy a dehumidifier and leave it running. Clean the walls with white vinegar not bleach. Open windows every day it would soon be under control. Mould only turns black when it has been left to grow for a long time and has started to reproduce and spore. They also have a responsibility as tenants to keep their home clean and there will be rules in place regarding drying of clothes indoors. bigfella777
  • Score: 12

1:54pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Superchick says...

solomum wrote:
The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.
Completely disagree. I had mould in my bathroom exactly the same as that. Could not fathom y as my windows r always open (well ventilated) noticed my sink had a slight leak. Since fixing that and cleaning the mould it hasnt returned. Hardly a massive concern to their healths if they had another child so y report to the echo. So irrelevant when u look at our headlines over the last few days.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.[/p][/quote]Completely disagree. I had mould in my bathroom exactly the same as that. Could not fathom y as my windows r always open (well ventilated) noticed my sink had a slight leak. Since fixing that and cleaning the mould it hasnt returned. Hardly a massive concern to their healths if they had another child so y report to the echo. So irrelevant when u look at our headlines over the last few days. Superchick
  • Score: 6

1:55pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Quentin Heslop says...

solomum wrote:
The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.
The only thing that will cure the mould issue is maintaining proper heat and ventilation and cleaning down any mould before it becomes ingrained. Mould inhibiting paint will stop growth in the material but is not going to help on the glossed skirting boards where there is clear evidence no action has been taken by occupiers to control the situation. Condensation will always occur, you cannot defeat physics, but occupiers need to work with the situation rather than making it someone else's problem who cannot actually control it.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: The mould in the photo is not something that can be cured by cleaning and ventilating alone. It needs properly treating (the responsibility of the landlord) and then the flat needs protection with anti mould paint. If it is spreading throughout flats in the building, then there is something wrong with the buildings ventilation system. It is so easy to judge the tenants, but remember, they pay rent so are entitled to a safe living environment.[/p][/quote]The only thing that will cure the mould issue is maintaining proper heat and ventilation and cleaning down any mould before it becomes ingrained. Mould inhibiting paint will stop growth in the material but is not going to help on the glossed skirting boards where there is clear evidence no action has been taken by occupiers to control the situation. Condensation will always occur, you cannot defeat physics, but occupiers need to work with the situation rather than making it someone else's problem who cannot actually control it. Quentin Heslop
  • Score: 6

1:58pm Mon 31 Mar 14

IronLady2010 says...

How do you allow a skirting board to become so filthy.

I'd be ashamed to have my face linked to it yet alone have it in the paper.

Get a cloth and clean you filthy people!
How do you allow a skirting board to become so filthy. I'd be ashamed to have my face linked to it yet alone have it in the paper. Get a cloth and clean you filthy people! IronLady2010
  • Score: 16

2:03pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

"Mum-of-three Vicky , 22" Well Leon must have a fantastic job, bless him. My poor children couldn't afford children till they were up and running with jobs and qualifications, 30 and more years of age, but he'd made so much by the time Vicky was 19 that they could start a family. Leon, you've got big bucks, clearly, go and buy a house somewhere nice. What on earth are you living in public housing for? Your children deserve better and you can't take all that cash with you.
"Mum-of-three Vicky , 22" Well Leon must have a fantastic job, bless him. My poor children couldn't afford children till they were up and running with jobs and qualifications, 30 and more years of age, but he'd made so much by the time Vicky was 19 that they could start a family. Leon, you've got big bucks, clearly, go and buy a house somewhere nice. What on earth are you living in public housing for? Your children deserve better and you can't take all that cash with you. Dai Rear
  • Score: 13

2:04pm Mon 31 Mar 14

wossit says...

"Robi says his partner Zoe, 28, and daughter Kenzie, 8, also regularly fall ill with colds while Adela, one, suffered a chest infection" thats kids, mine have colds and my house is not damp
"Robi says his partner Zoe, 28, and daughter Kenzie, 8, also regularly fall ill with colds while Adela, one, suffered a chest infection" thats kids, mine have colds and my house is not damp wossit
  • Score: 10

2:11pm Mon 31 Mar 14

draward says...

Give me strength! I just can't cope anymore with these stories...get a cloth, clean your walls, get a vacuum cleaner as your carpet is filthy have some pride and stop **** moaning. Its your responsibility to keep the property clean and tidy or do you want the tax payer to get you a cleaner as well?
Give me strength! I just can't cope anymore with these stories...get a cloth, clean your walls, get a vacuum cleaner as your carpet is filthy have some pride and stop **** moaning. Its your responsibility to keep the property clean and tidy or do you want the tax payer to get you a cleaner as well? draward
  • Score: 17

2:37pm Mon 31 Mar 14

jonone says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result:

"Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations."

Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties. jonone
  • Score: 3

2:39pm Mon 31 Mar 14

IronLady2010 says...

jonone wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result:

"Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations."

Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
https://www.google.c
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793,3a,72y,255.42h,8
6.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!
3m2!1shbM9IfIRyeq-lX
p3nIRWag!2e0!4m2!3m1
!1s0x48747a6e9bf3d01
9:0xd35b4257b1a3c3be
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[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.[/p][/quote]https://www.google.c o.uk/maps/place/Fawl ey/@50.823997,-1.363 793,3a,72y,255.42h,8 6.57t/data=!3m4!1e1! 3m2!1shbM9IfIRyeq-lX p3nIRWag!2e0!4m2!3m1 !1s0x48747a6e9bf3d01 9:0xd35b4257b1a3c3be !6m1!1e1 IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

2:49pm Mon 31 Mar 14

massimoosti says...

They must have quality jobs and be on a good earner to be able to afford that many kids at their age.................
.or am I paying ?
They must have quality jobs and be on a good earner to be able to afford that many kids at their age................. .or am I paying ? massimoosti
  • Score: 12

2:52pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Superchick says...

jonone wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result:

"Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations."

Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.[/p][/quote]I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone. Superchick
  • Score: -2

2:58pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Superchick wrote:
jonone wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result:

"Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations."

Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.
On a computer ....... but surely google is gooogle
[quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.[/p][/quote]I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.[/p][/quote]On a computer ....... but surely google is gooogle Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Mon 31 Mar 14

jonone says...

Superchick wrote:
jonone wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.
Computer. I assume that in the link IronLady2010 posted, the building in question is the redbrick, two story building behind new looking fencing. Looks to be late 80s, early 90s - so at the very least should have double glazing with a ventilation setting.
[quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.[/p][/quote]I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.[/p][/quote]Computer. I assume that in the link IronLady2010 posted, the building in question is the redbrick, two story building behind new looking fencing. Looks to be late 80s, early 90s - so at the very least should have double glazing with a ventilation setting. jonone
  • Score: 3

3:58pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Superchick says...

jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
jonone wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
jonone wrote:
Superchick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.
In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me
Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result!
Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45
Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.
I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.
Computer. I assume that in the link IronLady2010 posted, the building in question is the redbrick, two story building behind new looking fencing. Looks to be late 80s, early 90s - so at the very least should have double glazing with a ventilation setting.
Absolutely. Most propertys hav had modernisation now under the better homes scheme. I still believe its just sheer neglect of their home
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Superchick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I refuse to comment, it's all too much for me, I'll let others do it.[/p][/quote]In that case bigfella il go first. If its such a health risk to your children why would u hav another and risk the health of another child. Baffles me[/p][/quote]Where is Copper Beeches, Blackfield? All efforts to identify and locate it have drawn a blank, nothing on Google Maps, nothing via the Royal Mail. That suggests that these are new build properties and therefore are required by planning regulations to have minimum levels of ventilation, e.g. trickle vents in double glazing, ventilation settings in same double glazing, which allow a certain amount of air into the property. Certainly such things work very effectively in my house. Then again, I am the sort of person who, if in the same situation, would think "my house is mouldy, so I need to clean it and look at preventative measures" not "ooh, an opportunity to get myself in the paper with a hard done by expression on my face" Mind you, these people are probably more concerned about banging out a few more kids so in a few years they can whinge about how unfair it is that they have such a small home. You'd never think contraception was available for free on the NHS would you - my taxes get wasted twice as a result![/p][/quote]Dont know what google you use .... bur i found it first time. . Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton SO45[/p][/quote]Just copied and pasted that into Google, result: "Your search for Copper Beeches, Blackfield Road, Fawley, Southampton near SO45 did not match any locations." Not arguing, just wanted to have a look at the properties.[/p][/quote]I have just done the same and I get, copper beeches residential home. Are youusing google maps on a computer or on ur phone.[/p][/quote]Computer. I assume that in the link IronLady2010 posted, the building in question is the redbrick, two story building behind new looking fencing. Looks to be late 80s, early 90s - so at the very least should have double glazing with a ventilation setting.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Most propertys hav had modernisation now under the better homes scheme. I still believe its just sheer neglect of their home Superchick
  • Score: 6

5:31pm Mon 31 Mar 14

IronLady2010 says...

Leon, you appear to be a half decent guy, so here's what to do...

Pop down to Poundland or 99p store buy a couple of bottles of Flash Spray with Bleach and some micro fibre cloths. Give the flat a bloody good clean and then being the good father you are; get the family to choose a nice color scheme and paint the place. Make it a place to be proud of.

Then in the future if you are drying washing in the building open a window onto vent to allow the dampness to escape, likewise if you're cooking, don't rely on an extractor fan, open the window slightly, this will also help prevent the windows misting up.

I'm no damp expert and it could well be that the place is taking in water, but that skirting board is nothing to do with anything but your own hygiene standards.

Good luck and hope this helps.
Leon, you appear to be a half decent guy, so here's what to do... Pop down to Poundland or 99p store buy a couple of bottles of Flash Spray with Bleach and some micro fibre cloths. Give the flat a bloody good clean and then being the good father you are; get the family to choose a nice color scheme and paint the place. Make it a place to be proud of. Then in the future if you are drying washing in the building open a window onto vent to allow the dampness to escape, likewise if you're cooking, don't rely on an extractor fan, open the window slightly, this will also help prevent the windows misting up. I'm no damp expert and it could well be that the place is taking in water, but that skirting board is nothing to do with anything but your own hygiene standards. Good luck and hope this helps. IronLady2010
  • Score: 4

7:34pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bullsbags says...

3 kids ffs at her age. Wonder how long before no4 arrives.
Easy come,easy go all the idiots who go to work will pay
Happy days!
3 kids ffs at her age. Wonder how long before no4 arrives. Easy come,easy go all the idiots who go to work will pay Happy days! bullsbags
  • Score: 9

11:12am Tue 1 Apr 14

forest hump says...

Cap child allowance or we will go further in debt. We are producing spongers exponentially
Cap child allowance or we will go further in debt. We are producing spongers exponentially forest hump
  • Score: 1

9:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

nough hwfc says...

To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this

if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick

And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING!

So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers
To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING! So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers nough hwfc
  • Score: 2

11:51am Wed 2 Apr 14

draward says...

nough hwfc wrote:
To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this

if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick

And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING!

So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers
"HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?!"
May I suggest a laundrette?
"You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick"
Yes thank you, my home is :-) If it wasn't I would correct it, if I was renting then I would move. Simples.
" this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING! So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something"
Then tell them and not the echo!
Gotta go very bored now....
[quote][p][bold]nough hwfc[/bold] wrote: To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING! So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers[/p][/quote]"HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?!" May I suggest a laundrette? "You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick" Yes thank you, my home is :-) If it wasn't I would correct it, if I was renting then I would move. Simples. " this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING! So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something" Then tell them and not the echo! Gotta go very bored now.... draward
  • Score: 0

7:50am Thu 3 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

nough hwfc wrote:
To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this

if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick

And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING!

So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers
Well, if a dehumidifier is needed get a job and pay for one. Not exactly rocket science-oh but it's more "fun" whingeing about public authorities and calling people "typical scummers" isn't it? Never the fault of the whingers- ever- is it?
[quote][p][bold]nough hwfc[/bold] wrote: To all you haters slagging off the families living her let me contribute as someone who knows one of the families involved in this if this was purely down to the occupation of the flats and the way the people are living then EVERY HOME in the land would have mould issues - and in the winter when it is raining HOW ELSE ARE YOU MEANT TO DRY CLOTHES?! You lot think you know everything but how about YOU try living in places which we have seen in the echo across numerous weeks? I'm sure your suggestions of cleaning with bleach and white vinegar will solve the issues and that your homes are in pristine showroom nick And for the record I was witness to a health inspector who came out to one of the flats in question from the NFDC and they were sending a recommendation for the HA to fit a dehumidifier in the flat - this happened over 6 months ago - and what have the HA done - NOTHING! So get all the facts before judging, hope your sad little lives are worth something - typical scummers[/p][/quote]Well, if a dehumidifier is needed get a job and pay for one. Not exactly rocket science-oh but it's more "fun" whingeing about public authorities and calling people "typical scummers" isn't it? Never the fault of the whingers- ever- is it? Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

10:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

MrsBray says...

It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.
It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation. MrsBray
  • Score: 1

7:32am Wed 9 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

MrsBray wrote:
It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.
Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists?
[quote][p][bold]MrsBray[/bold] wrote: It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists? Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

1:18pm Wed 9 Apr 14

MrsBray says...

Dai Rear wrote:
MrsBray wrote:
It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.
Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists?
I think that to stereotype those people is wrong and to mention the future of their children is very upsetting, I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure and I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsBray[/bold] wrote: It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists?[/p][/quote]I think that to stereotype those people is wrong and to mention the future of their children is very upsetting, I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure and I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life. MrsBray
  • Score: 1

6:44pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

MrsBray wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
MrsBray wrote:
It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.
Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists?
I think that to stereotype those people is wrong and to mention the future of their children is very upsetting, I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure and I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life.
"I think that to stereotype those people is wrong"-Indeed. they are eccentric millionaires. In a minute they'll drop the begging bowl and hand out sweeties. Oh, how we'll laugh!
" to mention the future of their children is very upsetting" Oh a bit pessimistic. I expect they'll have one.
" I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure" Well don't do it again, you naughty person."
I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life." In what way has anyone "pre-judged" them? We didn't know they were holding out their begging bowl till they went to the paper. People offered helpful suggestions, as you would to those living in homes they bought. Hardly "pre-judging" any one. You didn't escape from Peter Simple's Way of The World column, did you?
[quote][p][bold]MrsBray[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsBray[/bold] wrote: It's so shameful reading these comments, it's easy to sit and judge others. If this was a couple in their mid 40's there would be no comment to the number of children they have or their occupation.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that people who wait to have children when they can afford to are right and that those who have children knowing I will pick up their bills are wrong? Do you think that the children those type of people have will make much contribution to our future? We mildly protest at the monstrosity of welfarism. Would you rather we went onto the streets with pick axe handles like the socialists?[/p][/quote]I think that to stereotype those people is wrong and to mention the future of their children is very upsetting, I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure and I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life.[/p][/quote]"I think that to stereotype those people is wrong"-Indeed. they are eccentric millionaires. In a minute they'll drop the begging bowl and hand out sweeties. Oh, how we'll laugh! " to mention the future of their children is very upsetting" Oh a bit pessimistic. I expect they'll have one. " I send my apologies to the families in this article for the horrific comments they have had to endure" Well don't do it again, you naughty person." I hope they do not suffer this prejudice in everyday life." In what way has anyone "pre-judged" them? We didn't know they were holding out their begging bowl till they went to the paper. People offered helpful suggestions, as you would to those living in homes they bought. Hardly "pre-judging" any one. You didn't escape from Peter Simple's Way of The World column, did you? Dai Rear
  • Score: -1

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